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DeeJay

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Registration Updating
« on: April 16, 2009, 04:23:55 PM »
Deleted database record for G-MIDK, hoping that it would re-appear with the Monarch registration, but it re-appeared as G-MIDK. When I returned to database to find, details were blank. Seems I did something wrong somewhere. Would appreciate any advice.
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Re: Registration Updating
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2009, 06:47:59 PM »
Deejay,

How did you delete the record, did you do it in Database Explorer or in MyLog?
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Re: Registration Updating
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2009, 04:25:25 PM »
Allocator. Thanks your reply. Attempted in Database Explorer.
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Re: Registration Updating
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2009, 04:47:02 PM »
Deejay,

I might be missing what you are trying to do here.  I've checked my database using Database Explorer and I get G-MIDK as a BMA aircraft - as is shown in the GAS database doing a manual lookup.  Airframes.org is also showing this aircraft as a BMA registered aircraft, so I'm not sure what you mean by getting it to show with a Monarch registration.

When you checked the database using Database Explorer, dir you use the same search criteria as I have below - note that you need to select the "aircraft" table in the drop-down list at the top.

Airframes.org has the following list of Monarch Aircraft:

http://www.airframes.org/fleet/mon
« Last Edit: April 17, 2009, 04:50:15 PM by Allocator »
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Re: Registration Updating
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2009, 04:56:03 PM »
Maybe you mean something along these lines?

See this clip from my Network tab.  G-MIDK is owned by BMI, but is operating as a Monarch flight.  The Company data is from the GAS database and the Airline Logo is generated by the Flight ID - at least by the MON part of it.
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Re: Registration Updating
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2009, 05:18:18 PM »
Allacator. Thanks your explanation. Clarified all.
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Re: Registration Updating
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2009, 05:33:35 PM »
Quote from: Allocator on April 17, 2009, 04:56:03 PM
Maybe you mean something along these lines?

See this clip from my Network tab.  G-MIDK is owned by BMI, but is operating as a Monarch flight.  The Company data is from the GAS database and the Airline Logo is generated by the Flight ID - at least by the MON part of it.

Allocator, I see you have two that need updating:-)

G-TTIB = G-OZBP & G-TTIH = G-OZBT

HTH Cheers John
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Re: Registration Updating
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2009, 05:46:03 PM »
According to Airframe.org and G-INFO

G-MIDK is reregistered as G-OZBN
G-MIDM is reregistered as G-OZBO

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Re: Registration Updating
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2009, 06:07:22 PM »
Quote from: bearcat on April 17, 2009, 05:46:03 PM
According to Airframe.org and G-INFO

G-MIDK is reregistered as G-OZBN
G-MIDM is reregistered as G-OZBO

Stewart

OK, easy fix, Run Database Explorer and change the registrations and operator details. See below - Searched for G-MIDK, record found, changed Registration and Airline (AC) fields and deleted photo links in PT/LK/PT2/LK2 so hopefully the photo for the new registration will update next time the aircraft is detected.  Same deal for G-MIDM

RB uses the information in the GAS database, so it will only ever update to what GAS shows.  GAS is maintained by a group of unpaid volunteers, so it will take a little time to catch up.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2009, 06:12:19 PM by Allocator »
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Re: Registration Updating
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2009, 12:09:00 PM »
CAn AirNav please look at how they update their master Database from GAS, as I have found some aircraft with updated details on the GAS server, where the AirNav server is still sending extracted data:-
From AirNav 
          3C656F - D-AIKO   as per extract
from GAS -
         D-AIKO Airbus A-330-343E A333 989 L2J  3C656F DLH [LH] Lufthansa 2009 D-WWKJ 2009-02-19
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Re: Registration Updating
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2009, 12:46:38 PM »
I can't see details for Hex code 3C656F on GAS.

Are you sure that you are not using airframes.org to show that detail for D-AKIO?
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Re: Registration Updating
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2009, 12:55:28 PM »
G-MIDK re-registered as G-OZBN on 2 April 2007
G-MIDM re-registered as G-OZBO on 14 May 2007
G-TTIB re-registered as G-OZBP on 6 February 2008
G-TTIH re-registered as G-OZBT on 25 February 2009

so database sources are very out of date....
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Re: Registration Updating
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2009, 01:01:34 PM »
Allocator - sory wrong source for Info.....   
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Re: Registration Updating
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2009, 01:20:08 PM »
Quote from: Keith L on April 18, 2009, 12:55:28 PM
G-MIDK re-registered as G-OZBN on 2 April 2007
G-MIDM re-registered as G-OZBO on 14 May 2007
G-TTIB re-registered as G-OZBP on 6 February 2008
G-TTIH re-registered as G-OZBT on 25 February 2009

so database sources are very out of date....

Remember, the GAS team update their database as and when they can, on a purely voluntary and unpaid basis.  Thank goodness they do this, otherwise our RB information would be very sparse.  Airframes.org will not allow automated look-ups, as they state on their site - no bots

No bots, spiders, scrapers, scripted or otherwise automated queries, please.

As an exception, bots are tolerated only as long as they respect the robots.txt standard and if their purpose is to index this site to be included in a public search engine. And that is just a handfull like Google, MSN, Yahoo, etc.

Spidering this site violating this rule by sending private harvesting bots or otherwise sending automated queries is considered abuse. Violating bots will be blocked and/or publicly listed.

GAS are quite happy for individuals to send them updates, maybe you should do this and help them out?

If you wish to have updates from your own personal confirmed entries, please submit them for inclusion via the form below.
Alternatively you can EMail lists to ModeSdata.
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Re: Registration Updating
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2009, 01:26:15 PM »
We did try and contact airframes and come to an agreement but were unable to reach an agreement which would be beneficial to our customers.

Please remember there isn't a database anywhere which has handles these updates and GAS is doing a great job, as Allocator says they are unpaid volunteers.

GAS and us need the help of all the members to keep up to date with registration changes and get them sent in.
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