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Thanks Carlos

Alan
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AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com Discussion / Re: max range 299nm
« Last post by djchiro on Today at 01:04:02 PM »
Thanks for the explanation. I have about 90% coverage according to the data. My challenge to the west is the Appalachian mountains, so not much I can do about that. It still seems unfair to know that I would get >299nm reported only if I had an Airnav supplied receiver.
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All over the top of my old head

Alan
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AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com Discussion / Re: max range 299nm
« Last post by Runway 31 on Today at 12:35:21 PM »
PGANRB***** receivers are Airnav supplied xrange receivers.  Its about data quality and an attempt to minimise erroneous data i would presume

The leader board is not all about range if you hover over the word score at the top of the column you will see the formula used - uptime^2 * (Avg range + (Max range /5)

I would presume your score would be higher is you had better range to your west.  The leaderboard is a bit of fun and not to be taken seriously although I know lots do

Alan

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AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com Discussion / Re: max range 299nm
« Last post by djchiro on Today at 02:22:34 AM »
OK but it still doesn't make sense. Then what receivers are able to report great than 299nm because I see some with the PGANRB prefix reporting above 299nm. Seems strange that some would be capped and others not. My receiver regularly tracks planes at greater than 299nm as I am located 325ft ASL and have clear LOS NE-E-SE which is all below me and out in the ocean. Yet it never reports that data in the RB24 leaderboard.
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To answer my earlier question on keeping a local copy of the data during testing.

apt install netcat-openbsd

Then to dump the SBS messages via

 nc 127.0.0.01 30003

dump1090 code is on github, and it looks to be serving the data to anyone connecting this port. It also dumps a different format to 30002 to any process that connects
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AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com Discussion / Re: Database Update Requests
« Last post by CarlosAbreu on May 30, 2024, 11:31:31 PM »
Alan

30-05-2024 Updated file in attach.

Carlos
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AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com Discussion / Re: max range 299nm
« Last post by Runway 31 on May 30, 2024, 06:05:50 PM »
The way I read the post is that all feeds apart from Radarbox suplied receivers are limited to a maximum of 299 miles to protect against bad results being received

Alan
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AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com Discussion / Re: Database Update Requests
« Last post by Runway 31 on May 30, 2024, 06:02:48 PM »
Many thanks Michel

Alan
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AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com Discussion / Re: max range 299nm
« Last post by [email protected] on May 30, 2024, 05:32:07 PM »
It will depend on atmospheric conditions.  1.09GHz is mostly line of site, but there is atmospheric refraction and sometimes ducting that will usually extend the range.

There are area specific refraction tables for planning microwave links. The tables have a K factor, which the Earth's radius is increased by to get the expected range (a bigger Earth would have a more distant horizon).  Usually the range is extended, but sometimes the refraction will reduce the range, by refracting away from the earth. This is season, weather and area dependent. It can be a real problem for stable long distance microwave links.

The refraction occurs at the boundary between different layers of air.  Ducting is refraction within a layer, and is leaky in nature.   Ducting is common just above the ocean, where there is a layer where the air is more humid.  It has been used in tests of over the horizon microwave links, and in over the horizon radar. For radar, it is one of the reasons why ships mount their radar as high as possible. The radar needs to be above the ducting layer.
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