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acars45

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Airnav radar box ranges and advice
« on: June 22, 2015, 06:50:42 PM »
Good evening I need some advice I run radarbox from my location near orpington kent
I run a out door antenna. Not on my roof currently I'm getting 110-130 range heading towards France
I'm thinking about getting a new antenna and put on the roof
With my current range would my range increase ?
Also I seem to get aircraft going towards south but never North or west
Also what a antenna would be good to by
And would my range increase to 200 miles etc
Look forward to your replies
Paul in kent

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Re: Airnav radar box ranges and advice
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2015, 07:57:14 PM »
There must be something stopping you getting anything north or west, what is the topography around you which is stopping you seeing anything in that direction.  Where is you current antenna sited and would putting it on the roof overcome what is limiting your view just now ,I guess it will be a part of your building.  The antenna/box works with line of site. if there is something in the way between the antenna and the aircraft it wont pick it up.

Alan

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Re: Airnav radar box ranges and advice
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2015, 08:22:43 PM »
Thank you Alan I'm getting in into Jersey france no problem  hopefully when I get my new aieral mounted on the roof I should get better range. What sort of ranges would I get by putting
The aieral on the roof
Paul

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Re: Airnav radar box ranges and advice
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2015, 07:24:15 AM »
I cant state with any certainty Paul but you should get better range with it on the roof.  The maximum range you will get will be determined by among other things your antenna, the cable you are using and the altitude of the aircraft.

Alan

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Re: Airnav radar box ranges and advice
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2015, 11:04:49 AM »
Any advice on what aieral to buy and cable

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Re: Airnav radar box ranges and advice
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2015, 11:15:26 AM »
It depends on your budget Paul.
I go for what I think is best and use a DPD antenna with Westflex W103 cable. Others may have other ideas.

http://www.dpdproductions.com/ and http://www.whwestlake.co.uk/ and they also do a 1m tail for connecting to the box.  Whatever make you buy make sure it is fitted with good connectors of the right size and type.

Alan

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Re: Airnav radar box ranges and advice
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2015, 04:52:34 PM »
Thank you so much for this

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Re: Airnav radar box ranges and advice
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2015, 06:25:38 PM »
Hi Paul,
With just the standard supplied little mag-mount, (mounted on a redundant Peugeot brake disc!) albeit on top cliffs (200', 65m) at Mullion Cove, I was regularly getting up to 350NM (A/C at FL 400) distance. and if I can get my wife's redundant lap-top working, I'll be keeping that on 24/7/365 feeding to the network.   CGJon
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Re: Airnav radar box ranges and advice
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2015, 07:27:07 PM »
My range increased quite significantly in certain directions after installing an external antenna on the roof 3 weekends back - I managed to get it on the very top of the pole above the tv antennas and am very pleased with the results.

Flight count has also increased by at least 50%, I'm currently looking at 54 flights whereas I used to get less than 30 at this time of day.  I had a quick peep before work a few mornings back and had 134 flights!!

Antenna is the BBA-1090 from TMRF.co.uk
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Re: Airnav radar box ranges and advice
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2015, 05:26:56 AM »
Thank you for all this  great information I will be getting my out antenna very soon

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Re: Airnav radar box ranges and advice
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2015, 05:34:04 AM »
Last question do you know any uk supplies who supply ADS out door aierals for my radar box look forward to your reply Paul in kent

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Re: Airnav radar box ranges and advice
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2015, 07:40:03 AM »
Last question do you know any uk supplies who supply ADS out door aierals for my radar box look forward to your reply Paul in kent

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Re: Airnav radar box ranges and advice
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2015, 07:24:31 PM »
Here is an example of my range with a DPD 1090Mhz ADS-B antenna

AirNav RadarBox 3D - 5.00.071 Shot at 20150628 1913 UTC by CYYZGUY, on Flickr

With maximum propagation rings.

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And antenna, on the right.

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Re: Airnav radar box ranges and advice
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2015, 06:43:06 AM »
What sort of ranges are you getting in miles. And thank you for the brill pics

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« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2015, 09:19:51 AM »
Also can ADS increase in range when there is lift in the weather conditions ?