Database Update Requests

[Runway 31]

Many thanks Liviu

Alan

[John Racars]

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FN NO ND NV NO ND

New:

AFR124B LFPG EPWA
EZY25LR EGKK EKCH
TRA401 EHAM HEGN HEMA
TRA402 HEMA EHAM HEGN
WZZ80W EPGD EHEH
WZZ939 EHEH LROP

Correction:

EZY7156 LCLK EGGP i.s.o. GCRR EGGP
EZY8966 LCLK EGKK i.s.o. EFHK EGKK


[Runway 31]

Many thanks again John

Alan

[EK01]

Evening Alan,

OBS1462 : LEAL-GCTS


Ian

[Runway 31]

Thanks again Ian

Alan

[Michel]

Some more updates/corrections:

BLX252 GCLP-ESSA iso GCLP-EFHK-ESSA
PRI648 GCLP-ESSA
NAX53C LEMG-ENBR iso LEPA-ENBO
NAX3RM ENRY-LEAL iso LEAL-ENRY
BAW11 EGLL-WSSS iso EGLL-WSSS-YSSY

Michel.

[Runway 31]

Thanks again Michel

Alan

[John Racars]

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FN NO ND NV NO ND NV

New:

BEL82H LOWW EBBR
EZY83YE HESH EGGW
NAX51Z GCLP ENAL
NAX91Z GMAD ENGM
TRA153 EHAM DTTJ DTNH
TRA154 DTNH EHAM DTTJ
WZZ5WV EHEH EPGD
WZZ6 EPWA EHEH

Correction:

TFL970 OJAQ EHAM HEGN i.s.o. EHAM OMDB
TFL969 EHAM HEGN OJAQ i.s.o. EHAM HEGN
TRA6846 GBYD EHAM GVAC i.s.o. GVAC EHAM LPFR


[Runway 31]

Thanks again John,

A couple of corrections

NAX91Z operates GMAD-ENGM
TRA153 must operate EHAM-DTNH via DTTJ as per the d/b and also given that the return commences from DTNH

Alan

[John Racars]

Alan,

you are right ofcourse in case of NAX91Z. Mistake in typing: EGNM should be ENGM in this case and I am verry sorry about that. Next time I will try to be more accurate. For the others I followed Schiphol information. If you do not agree with that and have better info about that it is ok with me. You are the Boss and feel free to take my attributes yes or no over in the routedatabase.

Best Regards,

John

[Runway 31]

Hi John

Its not the matter of being the boss, as you stated the return flight TRA154 is shown as starting off from DTNH so it stands to reason the outbound flight finished off there.

Thanks again

Alan

[John Racars]

Hi Alan,

no problem but I do not agree with you in this case.

But put this in the database as you think it is right please.

Thank you and Regards,

John

[John Racars]

The real reason I do so is as follows:

TRA procedure (as I have experienced myself sometimes in cases like this):

Flight-route EHAM-DTTJ via DTNH and therafter back to EHAM departs from EHAM as TRA153;

First stop is DTNH; passengers for DTNH going out, passengers at DTNH for EHAM goes in;

At DTNH the flightid changes in TRA154;

Next stop DTTJ; Passengers for DTTJ going out (in some cases the pax for EHAM as well), there after all pax for EHAM are going in and the flight depart as TRA154 from DTNH to EHAM. (AND GOES NOT TO DTTJ AGAIN TO PICKUP PAX FOR EHAM)

Additional benefit is also that spotters between DTNH and DTTJ allways have the correct route-information about this a/c all the time, regardless of the flightid that it performs

So this is why:

TRA153 EHAM-DTTJ via DTNH

and

TRA154 DTNH-EHAM via DTTJ

Hope it is clear why I do so and if you do not agree with this view feel free to put it in the d/b as you like.

Kind regards and have a nice Sunday!

John

[John Racars]

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New:

AUA351D LOWW EBBR
AUA411C LOWW LFPG
CSA2DZ LKPR LFPG
CSA3DZ LKPR LFPG
EIN63C EIDW EBBR
IBE32BA LEMD EBBR
IBE32TN LEMD EBBR
IBE32VW LEMD EBBR
KLM11P EHAM LFPG
KLM18 KIAD EHAM
KLM26B LIPE EHAM
KLM36L ELLX EHAM
KLM37P EHAM LFPG
KLM45C EHAM EDDM
KLM47B EHAM LSZH
KLM49W EHAM LSGG
KLM79X EHAM EKCH
KLM88J EDDH EHAM
TFL459 EHAM GBYD GVAC
TRA117P EHAM LEMG
TRA161 EHAM GCLP
TRA162 GCLP EHAM
TRA335L EHAM LPFR
TRA3ZP GMMN EHAM
TRA653R EHEH LEMG
TRA718 GCLA EHAM GCLP


[Runway 31]

John,

Thanks for those.

I dont wish to keep the discussion going but you state the outbound flight for TRA153 routes EHAM via DTNH to DTTJ which is the last point of the outbound flight.  How then can the return flight start from DTNH as the finish of one flight and the start of the other would be in two different locations as you have detailed them.  I may be thick but it doesnt compute to me and I would suggest that the outbound flight routes EHAM-DTNH and the return flight leaves DTNH and routes to EHAM via DTTJ as it is the only way that you can get the finish of the outbound and the start of the inbound from the same location.

Alan