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Marinus

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Populate error
« on: March 25, 2008, 11:41:03 AM »
Hello,

Autopopulate works fine, but now I get following errors:



as you can see information gets shifted to the wrong field, I now get Airline information
in c/n field etc. This doesn't seem to happen for all aircraft....

Anyone else getting this also ?

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Re: Populate error
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2008, 11:44:59 AM »
Definately a bug - I've got loads of these in my database as well, with serial and company switched:



Airnav Support, can we get this fixed, and we'll also need something that lets us correct the previous errors.

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Re: Populate error
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2008, 12:16:29 PM »
Not a nice error but good find, investigation under way.
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Re: Populate error
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2008, 01:10:08 PM »
While talking about switches - can we get the switch that shows First Time and Last Time data in Mylog from imported .sqb files back to front sorted as well please :-]

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Re: Populate error
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2008, 01:52:50 PM »
I'm getting exactly the same error with the swopped fields.

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Re: Populate error
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2008, 03:22:40 PM »
Please send us examples (mode-s codes) of aircraft where those errors appear.

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Re: Populate error
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2008, 03:29:27 PM »

Please send us examples (mode-s codes) of aircraft where those errors appear.

Here's just a few of the dozens that I've got in error:

503C59, 506C13, 4783A0, ABA79C, 400AAB, 400E3F, E480C5, E480C9, AA26CE, 868DFC, 89402B, 89402C, 401122, 3D1869, A16EC2, AA8315, 7C6D2C, 868039, 3DB615, 8410AE, A894F2, A8A3CE, 394C0E, 398C44, 4010EB, 84B466, 84B488, A84706, 4CC2CC, AC0B61, 4010ED, A24B06

MS      AR      AC      CN
503C59   LY-AQV   25069/2053   FlyLAL - Lithuanian Airlines
506C13   S5-AAM   25236   Adria Airways
4783A0   LN-OHI   2582   CHC Helikopter Service
ABA79C   N850CT   258677   Emerson Climate Technologies Inc
400AAB   G-REDK   2610   International Aviation Leasing Ltd
400E3F   G-ZZSE   2660   Bristow Helicopters
E480C5   PR-VAC   27048   VRG Linhas Aereas
E480C9   PR-VAN   27427/579   Varig
AA26CE   N753SR   2759   Cirrus Design Corp
868DFC   JA773J   27653/635   Japan Air Lines - JAL
89402B   A9C-KC   286   Gulf Air
89402C   A9C-KD   287   Gulf Air
401122   G-TOYK   28870/2899   Bmibaby
3D1869   D-EHMN   28R-7931158   Untitled
A16EC2   N19136   29285/856   Continental Airlines
AA8315   N777AN   29585/218   American Airlines
7C6D2C   VH-VUM   29675/2414   Pacific Blue Airlines
868039   JA737P   29681   Skymark Airlines
3DB615   D-GPEZ   30-1871   Untitled
8410AE   JA04MC   3025   Star Flyer
A894F2   N652JB   3029   JetBlue Airways
A8A3CE   N656JB   3091   JetBlue Airways
394C0E   F-GTAO   3098   Air France
398C44   F-HDCE   311   XL Airways
4010EB   G-EZBW   3134   EasyJet Airline
84B466   JA206A   3147   All Nippon Airways
84B488   JA207A   3148   All Nippon Airways - ANA
A84706   N632VA   3155   Virgin America
4CC2CC   TF-NPB   3161   IceJet
AC0B61   N87507   31637/2487   Continental Airlines
4010ED   G-EZBY   3176   EasyJet Airline
A24B06   N247LM   31T-8104043   Mystair Inc

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Re: Populate error
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2008, 03:32:55 PM »
Please send us examples (mode-s codes) of aircraft where those errors appear.

Here are a few from me, aircraft serial number and operator reversed in NavData.db3.  I'm assuming that these have been GAS autopopulated, but I don't really know if this is the case.  On the other hand, these could have happened during BaseStation sqb import.

4CA628
401274
43E72F
4CA645
4CA648
4CA646

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Re: Populate error
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2008, 03:43:18 PM »
No, they're not GAS populate errors.  I've just checked one (503C59) against GAS, and the fields are NOT switched in GAS - in fact, the details are slightly different in GAS suggesting these did NOT come from GAS.

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Re: Populate error
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2008, 03:47:33 PM »
But do we know that the data source for the GAS populate is the same as what we can see in the "public" GAS search area?  It probably is, but I presume that the AirNav Server is getting the data via a different access route?  I wonder why it's only some aircraft and not all of them with the errors?

Edit:  Good point tarbet

4CA628 EI-DSI A320

is in thesearchable GAS database but only has the callsign, no other details. The record is in NavData.db3 with the AC and CN fields reversed - maybe this came with the original database - or it could still be a sql import error

Also, I've got 503C59 too - AC and CN reversed
« Last Edit: March 25, 2008, 03:56:37 PM by Allocator »

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Re: Populate error
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2008, 03:55:21 PM »
Here's some of mine :
A96F74
40126A
A3352A
A715BB
ACC98C
C0640D
4CA60A
43E719

They seem to occur in batches and from what I can see they are only from Network aircraft, not My Flights. I have noticed when traffic is heavy that the program is pulling down maybe 20 requests at a time. Maybe it's too much for my PC to process ?

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Re: Populate error
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2008, 04:06:32 PM »
One common factor is that many of these aircraft with switched details only have ONE photograph, or no photograph at all.

Maybe the processing that was introduced to handle single photos got the fields the wrong way round?

And I've got at least 1 aircraft that was only LOCAL aircraft, not network (400E3E) - it's not ADS/B equiped.

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Re: Populate error
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2008, 04:07:34 PM »
EINN-07

How do you know they are from Network traffic?  Is this because they don't appear in MyLog - you could be right, but how do we know they didn't come like that in the original database?

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Re: Populate error
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2008, 04:21:21 PM »
One common factor is that many of these aircraft with switched details only have ONE photograph, or no photograph at all.

tarbat, that is a significant observation!

I went to DataBase Explorer, viewed the aircraft table and sorted by PT - and sure enough, almost all of those without a photograph have the AC and CN fields swapped.

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Re: Populate error
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2008, 04:24:15 PM »
One common factor is that many of these aircraft with switched details only have ONE photograph, or no photograph at all.


I think Tarbat has a point here, most of the aircraft that has autopopulated
the last few days, have no photo's or just the one in the airliners.net database

I've noticed that some of the entries that didn't populate good with Tarbat
filled in just fine with me, this can propably be explained by the growing
database of airliners, that is when I logged the aircraft there were more than
2 photo's in their database....

Regards,

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