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New Navdata.db3 - 20110925
« on: September 26, 2011, 01:29:56 PM »
A new navdata.db3 installation is available on the link below:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/ANRB/DBUpdater/ANRBDBUpdater20110925.exe

Changes:
1) Updated aircraft table;
2) Updated flight number database;

Again thanks for the hard work of the database updaters team.

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Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110925
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2011, 05:13:02 PM »
Many thanks to all involved.

It's a much smaller file than before - I assume a lot of pruning has occurred.

Rod
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Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110925
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2011, 05:33:07 PM »
First: Many thanks for the next Database release.

Just noticed, that it is now impossible to run the updater with RB software running. For me this is an inconvenient modus-operandi. I usually decompress the file into the Airnav root-directory and manually copy it into the correct folder during times of very low traffic.  Futher I'm usually checking the content of the new database with third party db Software, before I start using the new db file. I'm aware of the fact that this new way will prevent not so well trained users from making errors during the update precess or asking questions like: "I did the update, why I'm not seeing any differences" or "but the update hasn't worked". Please, is there any chance for a release without the "is the RB software" running check. Or do I have learn to live with this new inconvenience (annoying-ness)?
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Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110925
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2011, 05:46:43 PM »
Ingo,

The updater has always required Radarbox to be offline while making the update, nothing has changed.

Rod,

It was the same with the last update, it about half the size of previous one.  I asked the question and was advised that they were using a new method which was more efficient.

Alan

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Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110925
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2011, 06:13:48 PM »
Ingo,

The updater has always required Radarbox to be offline while making the update, nothing has changed.
Really, in this case this must have been the first time, that I tried to install the Database file on a PC with software on duty. Well, in this case I'll have to set my clock-alert to wake me up at 2am, shut down my rb software, install new db file re-start rb software and go back to sleep for further two or three hours until I'll get up. ;-)
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Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110925
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2011, 06:27:06 PM »
Ingo,

When directing users to the updater on the forum we usually warn them to stop Radarbox while making the update. I'm sure if you took the time to go over the various update threads you would notice it.

I'm no expert but wouldnt think that it would be a good idea to be using a database when all the data is being changed, I think it would cause corruption at the very least.

Alan

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Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110925
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2011, 06:40:35 PM »
During the "real" overwrite process I'm stopping the software of course. Anything else would result in a mess in more than 90% of all cases.

But I prefer the following update precess:

Unpack in root-directory (because this usually needs some time. Especially on Netbooks and other "weaker" PCs)
Stop software and rename old db file into .old
Insert already copied new db file
Re-start Software.

Proceeding this way I get a shorter OFF-time than the shut down software, use installer, re-start software procedure.
Greetings from northern Germany, Ingo
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Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110925
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2011, 03:51:59 PM »
Many thanks to the updaters concerned for their continued enthusiasm and comittment to the task!

Keep up the good work guys!

Regards

Rich

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Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110925
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2011, 08:34:29 AM »
Since the update the route info is much more complete, even getting info for medi-vac flights and exec jets, bet you can`t get the data for the " Cobham " aircraft.  ;-)
Well done and many thanks,  Dave.
Dave. Exmoor, North Devon.

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Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110925
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2011, 09:03:05 PM »
Many thanks indeed to the guys involved in this work and the current update.

I liked the idea that it was released on my birthday...really fitting present for someone who enjoys this hobby immensely and has been involved in aviation from photography to model making to aircraft preservation..

Thank you :)
« Last Edit: October 03, 2011, 07:52:23 AM by Team Spirit »
Best regards Dave.

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Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110925
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2011, 10:58:47 AM »
I have read with interest the hard work being carried out by the updaters and that some have held off changing their own databases as, like myself, they have worked on theirs over a number of years and feel reluctant to change.  My question is, am I missing out by not updating now and is the current update above just changing the list of actypes and routes in Database Explorer.  If it is changing the aircraft database then is it possible just to update the routes list on its own. Thanks in anticipation.

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Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110925
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2011, 11:47:46 AM »
The work of the db Updaters is targeting the aircraft-list. The updates to the routes-list is as far as I know done by Airnav itself. Further there is now "easy" way to update only a part of the Database like the routes-list.
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Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110925
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2011, 01:25:25 PM »
Thanks neroon79, thats what I thought with regards the routes.  Could perhaps the Updaters give us an idea on how much work has been done on the database and do they update from new registration lists currently being publishished on sites like Yahoo Mode S group which covers updates from countries including USA, Canada etc.

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Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110925
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2011, 05:08:18 PM »
Several different sources are used, including information gathered via Mode S group. But many small aircraft from Germany for example are added by db Update requests posted by other users (like myself), who have sometimes dug out the details from the internet by hour taking searches or personal Mk1EB confirmations on spotting tours.

You can find some Stats about the updaters work on this page: http://www.airnavsystems.com/RadarBox/dbstats.php
Greetings from northern Germany, Ingo
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Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110925
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2011, 06:18:37 PM »
We would recommend updating.  To gain benefit of all the aircraft that we have added (currently 126,000).  We trawl many,many sites for new information including:
the Mode S group,
Puget Sound Boeing blog,
Skyliners,
Aiways North American Fleet Updates,
OTTSpotters
and the Houser747 World Registers updates
to name just a few of the many regular places we visit for info.

For regions were the national authorities do not publish national registers on the internet like the UAE and Germany we are very grateful to Ingo, X and others who share their personal observations with us via the data updater thread. 

We also get a feed of all hexes recieved on sharing radarboxes for further investigation. Unfortunately this also currently includes all the spurious corrupted codes caused by the decoding errors inherent with the radarbox.

Airnav have also made some changes to the airport table, for example Newquay Cornwall, Doncaster Sheffield and some additions to Chinese and Japanese destinations.   We have no control on the routes, which is purely with Airnav, the number of routes in the tables has been pared right back by Airnav, in order that the software then looks back to the servers for new routes info.

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