New RadarBox Database Released - 2011/Feb/23

[ACW367]

Dave
You may not have the newest version.  The newest Navdata has over 101,000 aircraft.

[ACW367]

Just a heads-up for the next version, but 42 aircraft in this new database still have invalid ICAO Type codes (field AT), and there are around 611 aircraft types without silhouettes available.

Cheers for the assistance Tarbat.  42 out of 100,000.  Thats a 0.004% error rate.  Considering it has been a manual task and given what we inherited when we updaters started, I think that is a pretty damn impressive effort and a tolerance level that many companies could only ever strive for.  If you are able to post the relevent 42 hexes on the database update request thread, we will have them sorted for you by the next release.  Obviously you would not be able to see the benefit of and any ICAO changes we make prior to a further release due to the corruptions of the longstanding bug.

We have continued our strong pressure on Airnav to start creating new silhouettes, flags, dat files etc.  They have a lot to look at in my opinion.  We have recieved no word from Airnav as to whether these currently feature in their plans for any of 'five exciting releases' we have been promised for this calendar year.

Unfortunately also in this new version I noticed  some mistakes regarding routs....some routs are missing or are wrong, and I noticed also a mistake regarding some silhouettes : for examp. AT72 appear with a silhouette of AT75...
But the big problem still that I have to  update manualy the routs , between updates :(
All the best !
Dana

Airnav will need to confirm to you details of how the routes table was updated/changed and what data sources are utilised, maybe flightstats?? 

With regards the AT75, ICAO changed over the ATR codes in November.  They are now as follows:

AT72     
ATR 72-101 
ATR 72-102
ATR 72-201 
ATR 72-202

AT73     
ATR 72-211
ATR 72-212

AT75     
ATR 72-212A 

AT76     
ATR 72-600
 
As explained above Airnav currently have not produced a silhouette for these.  Others that you will see regularly on the network without silhouttes include B748, G250 and GLF6.

Regards ACW367

[tarbat]

Cheers for the assistance Tarbat.  42 out of 100,000.  Thats a 0.004% error rate.  Considering it has been a manual task and given what we inherited when we updaters started, I think that is a pretty damn impressive effort and a tolerance level that many companies could only ever strive for.

Totally agree.  It was not intended as a criticism, just something to work on for the next version.

Here are the 42 aircraft:
AR   AT   AN   MS
09-72087   EC47   Eurocopter UH-72A Lakota   AE1F66
B-4184   LJ36   Learjet   78C4A2
C-GZEM   AA5B   American-General AG-5B Tiger   C08721
D-EFSY   B207   Bolkow 207   3D13C8
D-EHKY   B207   Bolkow BO-207   3D1840
D-ENVU   B207   Bolkow Bo207   3D2932
D-KWER   DIMP   Hoffman HK.36TTC Super Dimona   3E9681
D-MLEG   -   -   3FEF1C
D-MPGG   ECH0   Tecnam P.92 Echo 100S   3FECAF
EC-336   A330   Airbus A330 MRTT Test   343603
F-GOST   C153   Cessna A152 Aerobat   393A53
F-WWKD   A330   Various A330 test Airframes   38011A
F-WWKH   A330   Airbus Test Registration   38023A
F-WWKJ   A330   Airbus A330 Test   38017A
F-WWKP   A330   Airbus Test Registration   38031A
F-WWKR   A330   Airbus A330 Test   38035A
F-WWYC   A330   Airbus A330 Test   38281A
F-WWYI   A330   Airbus A330 Test   3828FA
F-WWYT   A330   Airbus Test Registration   382A5A
F-WWYX   A330   Airbus Test Registration   382ABA
G-CCVH   P36   Curtis Wright H-75A-1   404BA5
G-CEJF   PA26   Piper PA-28-161 Cadet   4012EA
G-CGVA   A22L   Aeroprakt A22L Foxbat   4064EF
G-OFTC   A019   Agusta A-109E Power   4064B2
N10204   LC42   Cessna 350 LC42-550FG   A00E97
N106TN   M2OT   Mooney M20TN Acclaim   A01CB4
N1253L   LAK4   Lake LA-4-200   A06911
N142CF   B422   Bell 222UT   A0AA56
N2ZM   LNK4   Lancair IV-P   A18F9C
N340GM   C430   Cessna 340A II   A3BDF0
N766P   S78   Sikorsky S-76C   AA5197
N926FD   B757   Boeing 757-2S7(F)   ACD45F
P4-A0D   B25B   Hawker Siddeley HS-125 Series 700A   48433D
R10-002   IL78   Ilyushin Il-78   50FF5E
RA-74040   AN74   Antonov An-74-200   152138
UD.14-01   CL4T   Canadair CL-415-6B11   353041
UR-74026   AN74   Antonov An-74TK-200   508056
UR-YVA   AN74   Antonov An-74TK-300   505072
VH-JSO      Socata TBM-700   7C3026
VH-KFT      Socata TBM-700   7C3367
ZS-KMD   BN2   Britten-Norman B-21 Islander   009BB4
ZS-PAL   DC83   Douglas DC-9-34CF   00A7B8

[tarbat]

Given time I'm sure one can get used to KJFK - EHAM being Jamaica to Haarlemmermeer, to mention but one.

Not sure I get the point, but this new database contains 27 routes between KJFK and EHAM, with airport names of John F. Kennedy International Airport and Amsterdam Schiphol.  Are you sure you're using the new database?

CKS203, CKS206, CKS9533, DAL80, DAL81, DAL8775, DAL8805, DAL8806, KLM641, KLM642, KLM643, KLM644, KLM646, KLM647, KLM648, SOO6170, SOO6171, SOO6173, TFL293, TFL295, TFL297, TFL517, TRA473, TRA8253, TRA833, UAE9914, UAE9936

[bratters]

Given time I'm sure one can get used to KJFK - EHAM being Jamaica to Haarlemmermeer, to mention but one.

Not sure I get the point, but this new database contains 27 routes between KJFK and EHAM, with airport names of John F. Kennedy International Airport and Amsterdam Schiphol.  Are you sure you're using the new database?

CKS203, CKS206, CKS9533, DAL80, DAL81, DAL8775, DAL8805, DAL8806, KLM641, KLM642, KLM643, KLM644, KLM646, KLM647, KLM648, SOO6170, SOO6171, SOO6173, TFL293, TFL295, TFL297, TFL517, TRA473, TRA8253, TRA833, UAE9914, UAE9936

Hi Tarbat - the point as you put it is that I'm not using the new database.

As I understand things by using new database I could correct my airports tables but my routes would be again over-ridden by Airnav routes. Judging by the comments on here and elswhere these, while apparently much better, may still leave something to be desired.

I was rather hoping that the corrective action for the Mk1 database would have been selective - ie I could have corrected only the Airports for example - but this has presumably been impossible to achieve - a point VonS was making.

After the first download, it took about a fortnight using FD to restore my routes so it's not an easy decision. We'll see but I'm open to any advice or recommendations.

[Runway 31]

Tarbat,

Many thanks for your assistance with the database.  While 0.004% is a very small percentage, we will try and ensure this figure is reduced even further.

Using your list I have corrected the defects shown except for the A330 aircraft.  As these are for test registrations, perhaps the generic A330 is best as we dont know which particular model will be using the hex but I will discuss with the other updaters.

Once again thank you for your assistance, it is appreciated

Alan

[Marpleman]

Ok - some help needed here!

I've done exactly what it says on the tin, and I can see the new navdata file sat in the data folder (19,910kb with todays date and time downloaded), but it's not pulling anything through in terms of info

When I go into database explorer, there's nothing there at all?No tables, nothing?

any ideas?

[Runway 31]

Something has went wrong somewhere Rich, my Navdata db.3 is showing 43.9Mb.

Alan

[Marpleman]

Thought as much - lookrd a little light,although I tried a second time with the same file sizes etc

I'll start from scratch again

Thanks

Rich

[airnav1967]

Is it safe to download this  i mean will it make a mess of the installation i have or does it just update thanks janet

[Runway 31]

It should just update Janet.  Close down airnav, do the update and start up again and all should be well.

Alan

[airnav1967]

thanks ill try it

[Marpleman]

Tried four separate times now from scratch, and only downloading a file of 19.9Mb?????

Has anyone else tried to download the file from the link on page 1 of this thread in the last half hour or so??

Dev/Support - is the link still working ok?

Thanks

Rich

[andrewarles]

Rich,

What's the size of the file "ANRBDBUpdater20110222.exe" that you downloaded.

Andrew

[Marpleman]

Rich,

What's the size of the file "ANRBDBUpdater20110222.exe" that you downloaded.

Andrew

Hi Andrew

10.866Kb

I've tried direct run from the prompt, and also saved

not a clue what's going on/

R