AirNav RadarBox
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Login with username, password and session length
 


Author Topic: Flightroutelookup.com  (Read 13181 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

AirNav Development

  • AirNav Systems
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2545
    • AirNav Systems
Flightroutelookup.com
« on: September 22, 2010, 12:07:10 AM »
Davereid: we've not seen any reply from you yet regarding this (correct me if I'm wrong). Taking in account there is no need for you to day after day report one or two wrong callsigns on our database and that you are offering the Flightroutelookup.com services to an SBS addon would you allow our central server to do the same? (automatically retrieve route data from your server).

Let us know so we can implement this feature for the benefit of the RadarBox community.

abrad41

  • Guest
Re: Flightroutelookup.com
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2010, 06:28:48 AM »
Quote
Taking in account there is no need for you to day after day report one or two wrong callsigns on our database

Airnav - You don't really think there is only one or two callsigns wrong - If you do, you may as well give up know.

And while we are here - I see yesterday, you mentioning AGAIN about the other forum and your competiors attacking you - Why is it ok for you to have freedom of speach, but not them, because you were attacting them too and yes I for one am get a little bit sick about this happening all the time.


DaveReid

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1815
    • Heathrow last 100 ADS-B arrivals
Re: Flightroutelookup.com
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2010, 06:47:30 AM »
Davereid: we've not seen any reply from you yet regarding this (correct me if I'm wrong). Taking in account there is no need for you to day after day report one or two wrong callsigns on our database and that you are offering the Flightroutelookup.com services to an SBS addon would you allow our central server to do the same? (automatically retrieve route data from your server).

Let us know so we can implement this feature for the benefit of the RadarBox community.

I'm confused.

You say you're not interested in the route updates that I post (and I note that you haven't used any of them to update the incorrect/missing data on the server).

But you now want access to more of the same via the web service.

That makes no sense.  Please explain.
This post has been scanned for any traces of negativity, bias, sarcasm and general anti-social behaviour

tarbat

  • ShipTrax Beta Testers
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 4219
    • Radarbox at Easter Ross
Re: Flightroutelookup.com
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2010, 07:11:09 AM »
That makes no sense.  Please explain.

Perhaps Airnav just want a more automated solution than having to input them manually.

Runway 31

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33703
Re: Flightroutelookup.com
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2010, 07:25:43 AM »
It makes a great deal of sense Dave.  Will you allow Airnav and us, the same assistance you give to others freely.  Its an easy answer Yes or No.

Airnav, may be an idea to negotiate in private rather than in the full glare of a forum.

Alan
« Last Edit: September 22, 2010, 08:26:14 AM by Runway 31 »

AirNav Development

  • AirNav Systems
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2545
    • AirNav Systems
Re: Flightroutelookup.com
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2010, 01:09:16 PM »
We are interested in getting automated access to your route lookup database: will you give us access to it like you do with Flight Display 7 (an SBS addon)? Why so much resistance in answering yes when you offer that data for that addon?

It is important to keep this discussion free and transparent on our open forum.

DaveReid

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1815
    • Heathrow last 100 ADS-B arrivals
Re: Flightroutelookup.com
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2010, 01:51:50 PM »
Access to the web service at www.flightroutelookup.com/FlightRoute is, and always has been, open to all.  No individual or organisation is prohibited from using it, and no negotiation is necessary.  The only condition of use is that valid (not dummy) data should be entered in the search fields.

Having said that, I'm amazed that AirNav seem to want to base RadarBox route data provision, even partially, on a free-of-charge, pro bono service that was created purely for enthusiasts.

As AirNav know only too well, you get what you pay for :-)
This post has been scanned for any traces of negativity, bias, sarcasm and general anti-social behaviour

AirNav Development

  • AirNav Systems
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2545
    • AirNav Systems
Re: Flightroutelookup.com
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2010, 02:12:18 PM »
Can we rely on information provided by your site?

DaveReid

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1815
    • Heathrow last 100 ADS-B arrivals
Re: Flightroutelookup.com
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2010, 02:27:04 PM »
Can we rely on information provided by your site?

I'll leave that for you to decide.

But in any case, the service comes with a full money-back guarantee.
This post has been scanned for any traces of negativity, bias, sarcasm and general anti-social behaviour

AirNav Development

  • AirNav Systems
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2545
    • AirNav Systems
Re: Flightroutelookup.com
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2010, 02:46:47 PM »
>I'll leave that for you to decide.

So you don't assume that the service you developed is reliable?
In that case we will keep using our own sources which are correct for 99.9% of the cases. Thanks for your help anyway.

dumpty

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 84
Re: Flightroutelookup.com
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2010, 03:21:08 PM »
This is getting a tad petty!

DaveReid

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1815
    • Heathrow last 100 ADS-B arrivals
Re: Flightroutelookup.com
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2010, 03:23:33 PM »
I think I know now how Alice felt in Wonderland :-)
This post has been scanned for any traces of negativity, bias, sarcasm and general anti-social behaviour

AirNav Development

  • AirNav Systems
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2545
    • AirNav Systems
Re: Flightroutelookup.com
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2010, 03:31:55 PM »
So is it reliable or not? Should we use it or not?

It's strange to change 10+ posts because of such a simple thing.

Runway 31

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33703
Re: Flightroutelookup.com
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2010, 03:35:42 PM »
Get a grip, it can only improve on what is available at this time.  Time will tell on reliability.

tarbat

  • ShipTrax Beta Testers
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 4219
    • Radarbox at Easter Ross
Re: Flightroutelookup.com
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2010, 03:42:42 PM »
Agree.  Airnav, finally prove to everyone that you're willing to adopt solutions suggested by your customers.

Far better to have one central, Airnav server doing route lookups on the FRL service, rather than 100's of end-users trying to do the same lookups.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2010, 04:00:52 PM by tarbat »