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DaveReid

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Re: Flight route update info
« Reply #45 on: September 28, 2010, 09:34:06 PM »
there appears to be a demand for an easy-to-use utility with which less technically-inclined members can maintain their routes databases

Get it done and there's a cheque in the post young Dave.

It would definitely be free to anyone who calls me "young"  :-)

But seriously, it's not something it would ever have occurred to me to charge for.  Anyway, here's a preview of what it might look like (subject to change):



Minimum functionality, IMHO, should include:

i) pull-down selection and validation of origin, destination and intermediate airports

ii) ability to sort and search by O/D/via

iii) automatic date/timestamping of updates

iv) import/export from/to CSV and Excel

v) ability to compare local and server routings

Comments welcomed.

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Re: Flight route update info
« Reply #46 on: September 28, 2010, 09:50:46 PM »
Suitable for Numpties?
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Re: Flight route update info
« Reply #47 on: September 28, 2010, 09:56:42 PM »
Suitable for Numpties?

Taken as read :-)
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Re: Flight route update info
« Reply #48 on: September 29, 2010, 08:08:31 AM »
Suitable for Numpties

Never underestimate the stupidity of humanity

after all " Where is Any Key on my keyboard"





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Re: Flight route update info
« Reply #49 on: September 29, 2010, 05:14:24 PM »
I`ve got reams of paper with "click" on it.  :-)
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Re: Flight route update info
« Reply #50 on: October 01, 2010, 11:33:04 AM »
Any offers for TOM2EW ?

On the network abeam Florence at FL370, heading south-east.  Seems to operate on Fridays only, usually returns as TOM88T.

Route showing as EGBB-EGNX, presumably taking the good folks of Birmingham on a package holiday to Nottingham (or vice versa).
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Re: Flight route update info
« Reply #51 on: October 01, 2010, 11:55:47 AM »
Is it at all conceivable that a callsign such as TOM2EW can be used on a different day for a different flight or is this just not possble?

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Re: Flight route update info
« Reply #52 on: October 01, 2010, 12:10:30 PM »
Is it at all conceivable that a callsign such as TOM2EW can be used on a different day for a different flight or is this just not possble?

Yes, it's perfectly possible for the routing for a given flight number to vary from day to day.

AIC188 from Heathrow is a good example of that - 4 days a week it routes EGLL-VIAR and the other 3 days EGLL-VIDP.

The industry has a term for this:  IV (Itinerary Variation).
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Re: Flight route update info
« Reply #53 on: October 01, 2010, 05:03:45 PM »
Is it at all conceivable that a callsign such as TOM2EW can be used on a different day for a different flight or is this just not possble?

Yes, it's perfectly possible for the routing for a given flight number to vary from day to day.

AIC188 from Heathrow is a good example of that - 4 days a week it routes EGLL-VIAR and the other 3 days EGLL-VIDP.

The industry has a term for this:  IV (Itinerary Variation).

I have a term for it as well but not one I'm prepared to write down.

Just wondered if it might explain the odd different interpretation of the same ID.  I'll keep my eye open for an example or two,

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Re: Flight route update info
« Reply #54 on: October 01, 2010, 06:28:16 PM »
Just wondered if it might explain the odd different interpretation of the same ID.  I'll keep my eye open for an example or two,

You won't see the same (scheduled) flight number being used on two completely different routes at the same time - that would be a recipe for chaos - IVs only cover minor route variations or, more often, other details like timings or aircraft type.

But that's not what's happening with that TOM flight - even if it hadn't been over Italy, RB's suggestion that they have a scheduled service on the 27nm route from Birmingham to East Midlands is just plain daft.
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