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DaveReid

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Re: Directional Mode S antenna ?
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2010, 09:02:37 PM »
Thats a parabolic reflector!

Too late, I've just worked out how to attach it to my barbecue ...
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Re: Directional Mode S antenna ?
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2010, 08:41:30 AM »
...prompted by this and other threads I thought I would try and build a 1090 tuned Yagi just to see if it would work ( I know nothing about antenna design)! A minimal amount of research turned up a piece of Yagi design software (John Drew DL6WU Yagi design). I plugged in the numbers, rooted round the tool shed, and 30 minutes later had a prototype built out of plastic curtain rail and some 4mm aluminium rod, all stuck together with a glue gun. To cut a long story short I hung this out of my loft window, pointing north, at the same height as my baseplane antenna but about 5 m away from it. I was surprised with the results, firstly that the thing worked at all ;-) and secondly with the resulting max range polar diagram (2 hours) - doesn't seen very directional. I compared this with my baseplane polar and thought mmmm I need to do some more research: firstly to understand how the thing worked, and secondly to build a second prototype based on this!

Attached are images of the two polar diagrams and an image of the first prototype.
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Re: Directional Mode S antenna ?
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2010, 09:21:18 AM »
I think it needs a bit more time to create a better p diagram. The yagi will give a low angle lobe to the N and some gain off the back to the S. There should be deep nulls E and W. If you look carefully they are there. Think of the polor diagram of the yagi in 3G so you will need a/craft at all heights to build up a true picture. Nice work.
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Re: Directional Mode S antenna ?
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2010, 11:21:21 AM »
Thanks Jeremy, I can see that now - should have left it a bit longer. However, the prototype is, at this very moment, being recycled to produce a more robust version based on information from the huge knowledge base on the web.  Oh dear - a new hobby is emerging ;-). I'll post the results....
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Re: Directional Mode S antenna ?
« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2010, 01:40:19 PM »
Bewarned - the more time you spend making these things the less time they stay up or work! J.
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Re: Directional Mode S antenna ?
« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2010, 04:46:45 PM »
I think you may be right! But I did make another, and the preliminary result is displayed below. At one stage had about 136 flights returning and I tracked a flight into East Midlands to about FL85. I was a bit more careful with the measuring and mounting of the elements.  Made the boom out of 20x20mm wood this time too. Quite what TOM436 is doing there I don't know ;-).
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Re: Directional Mode S antenna ?
« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2010, 08:40:39 PM »
Very good. It shows the front and back lobs and the smaller ones at 45 deg and 315 deg very nicely and deep null at the sides.
Spot on!
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