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Database update info
« on: February 03, 2010, 09:36:50 AM »
Logged over southern UK earlier today:

Mode S: AD794E
Reg: N96757
Type: Gulfstream Aerospace G-1159A (Gulfstream III)
MSN: 379

Currently populates as Type: Taylorcraft Bc-12D; MSN: 9057

MTIA
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Re: Database update info
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2010, 01:00:38 PM »
What can be done to avoid these problems? Any suggestions? What is the most accurate aircraft information external database we can rely on?

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Re: Database update info
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2010, 01:11:19 PM »
GAS has the old date, airframes.org has the updated data in addition to the old details.

The date of the new registration is 2009-10-19 so I guess that GAS is lagging behind.  Even so, the old details won't be overwritten in the RB database even when GAS is updated.

Best bet Dave is to submit the change of details to the GAS website as a start?

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Re: Database update info
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2010, 01:17:41 PM »
Yes, GAS is one of the best sources, but it does rely on people (like Dave) submitting updates to keep it up-to-date ;)

I keep GAS's lookup program ( http://www.gatwickaviationsociety.org.uk/sbs_populatebeta.asp ) open on my desktop all day, just so that I can do quick checks.

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Re: Database update info
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2010, 01:22:04 PM »
The problem is that we already get this data from GAS, automatically.
What is the GAS sources are wrong? Alternatives?

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Re: Database update info
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2010, 01:45:15 PM »
I would say http://www.airframes.org/ is one of the best, if only you could get agreement from them to use their database.

The example DaveReid gives is up-to-date on http://www.airframes.org/


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Re: Database update info
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2010, 01:55:38 PM »
airframes.org bans the use of 'bots' for lookups, so an agreement would definitely be needed.

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Re: Database update info
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2010, 01:58:20 PM »
We believe we did contact airframes.org on a few occasions before but didn't actually get a reply. Development can confim.
Contact Customer/Technical support via:
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Re: Database update info
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2010, 02:33:06 PM »
That is totally correct. We've sent several email to airframes.org but we didn't a single reply from them. We would be interested in feeding our server with their aircraft data. Does anyone have their private email contact? Please send us a PM if that is the case.

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Re: Database update info
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2010, 04:37:58 PM »
What can be done to avoid these problems? Any suggestions? What is the most accurate aircraft information external database we can rely on?

www.aircraftId.com is used by organisations like Eurocontrol and EASA to validate and clean their in-house aircraft databases, why not go and talk to them ?
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Re: Database update info
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2010, 05:01:19 PM »
www.aircraftId.com is used by organisations like Eurocontrol and EASA to validate and clean their in-house aircraft databases, why not go and talk to them ?

You mean, talk to you Dave!!  I think we all know your agenda, just give it a rest for a while.

Domain name: AIRCRAFTID.COM
Administrative Contact:
Reid  Dave  [email protected]
PO Box 149
Reading  Berks RG6 5FQ
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Domain name: FLIGHTROUTELOOKUP.COM
Administrative Contact:
Reid  Dave  [email protected]
PO Box 149
Reading  Berks RG6 5FQ
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Re: Database update info
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2010, 05:23:11 PM »
Agenda or no agenda, we'd all be happier with accurate database contents...

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Re: Database update info
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2010, 05:24:37 PM »
Nope - it was a simple statement of fact, in response to a direct question by AirNav which solely asked about accuracy.

What AirNav presumably meant to ask was:

What is the most accurate aircraft information external database we can rely on other than those run by people and organisations we don't like ?

I have no idea what the answer to that question is !
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Re: Database update info
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2010, 05:27:34 PM »
Answers to questions like that tend to zero.

I remember at a previous company I worked for when the MD had just heard that another similar company in the industry had gone bust saying " Who is there left to hate now?"


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Re: Database update info
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2010, 05:39:32 PM »
Really Dave.  Airnav asked "what is the most accurate aircraft information external database", and you replied www.aircraftId.com.  But conveniently failed to mention that you are the CEO of AvGen, who operate the www.aircraftId.com service.

I guess you would say its the most accurate!!