AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.07 Beta

[AirNav Support]

dauntless,

If you have downloaded the full version of 3.07 and have a subscription for real time network it will then be 20 seconds.

[marcdeklerk]

Im also found that when RB has been running for a period without internet connection, and I connect to internet to update database, the *new* mode S codes gets updated in the database, and a picture download, however it doesn't update the MYLOG entries?

[Fenris]

Im also found that when RB has been running for a period without internet connection, and I connect to internet to update database, the *new* mode S codes gets updated in the database, and a picture download, however it doesn't update the MYLOG entries?

I've found that I need to do a populate, OK it twice, then close the window. Then after the updating has happened, I reopen MyLog and do one more populate, at this point the missing stuff appears but there are usually aircraft for which some fields are empty because the Navdata doesn't have AT or another field.

[voyager8]

Hi all,ref the one bit eror,I currently have v3.07 running & have the following flight currently on the South Wales airway near Cardiff heading for LHR if someone wants to see if they get the same info,400408 BA 282 G-BNLI B747 squawk 4217,in the line below it in my flights is entry 40040C no flight no G-BNLM same squawk,I do not have network flights,only G-BNLI is showing on the map with the globe symbol,regards Paul.

[voyager8]

Hi All just spotted another one bit error 4CA4ED RYR1BA EI-DPI FL37000 sq 2016, next line 4CA4E9 no flight no EI-DPE FL37000 SQ 2016,Compton area heading S/East,regards Paul.

[voyager8]

Hi All,another one bit error but this time 3 entries,400A78 BEE83F G-JEDR DH8 SQ 1406,next line 400A7C no flight no G-DBCC A319 SQ 1406,then 2 lines below 400A79 no flight no G-JEDT DH8 SQ 1406,just slight difference of couple of hundred feet in flight levels of the entries.Regards Paul.

[DaveReid]

Hi all,ref the one bit eror,I currently have v3.07 running & have the following flight currently on the South Wales airway near Cardiff heading for LHR if someone wants to see if they get the same info,400408 BA 282 G-BNLI B747 squawk 4217,in the line below it in my flights is entry 40040C no flight no G-BNLM same squawk,I do not have network flights,only G-BNLI is showing on the map with the globe symbol,regards Paul.

G-BNLI landed at EGLL 11:39z as BAW282 with a 4217 squawk;  G-BNLM had previously landed 10:53z as BAW284, squawking 1437.

[DaveReid]

Hi All just spotted another one bit error 4CA4ED RYR1BA EI-DPI FL37000 sq 2016, next line 4CA4E9 no flight no EI-DPE FL37000 SQ 2016,Compton area heading S/East,regards Paul.

EI-DPI RYR1BA, squawking 2016 11:04-11:24z
EI-DPE RYR2706, squawking 2005 09:39-10:06z

[DaveReid]

Hi All,another one bit error but this time 3 entries,400A78 BEE83F G-JEDR DH8 SQ 1406,next line 400A7C no flight no G-DBCC A319 SQ 1406,then 2 lines below 400A79 no flight no G-JEDT DH8 SQ 1406,just slight difference of couple of hundred feet in flight levels of the entries.Regards Paul.

G-JEDR BEE83F, squawking 1406 11:35-12:06z
G-JEDT BEE7073, squawking 1141 10:59-11:26z

There's a trend emerging here - in each of the 3 cases, it's an earlier aircraft/flight which is being displayed with incorrect aircraft and squawk details from a later flight whose hex code differs by a single bit.

[voyager8]

Hi Dave/all,thanks for the reply,have not seen any since previous post ,but interestingly EI-DPI the Ryanair B737 is still showing active but not tracking (no globe) in my flights at 38000ft with no flight no & no sqauwk,regards Paul.

[voyager8]

Hi again,got to go to work soon,but just noticed these all in my flights at the same time,
400B04 BEE532 G-JEDW DH8 SQ 7023
400A04 EXS826 G-CELX B737 SQ 7023
400B84 no fl no G-DBCF A319 SQ 7023
400B44 EXS832 G-CELI B737 SQ 7023
all a few lines apart in the list.Regards Paul.

[Fenris]

Hi All,another one bit error but this time 3 entries,400A78 BEE83F G-JEDR DH8 SQ 1406,next line 400A7C no flight no G-DBCC A319 SQ 1406,then 2 lines below 400A79 no flight no G-JEDT DH8 SQ 1406,just slight difference of couple of hundred feet in flight levels of the entries.Regards Paul.

G-JEDR BEE83F, squawking 1406 11:35-12:06z
G-JEDT BEE7073, squawking 1141 10:59-11:26z

There's a trend emerging here - in each of the 3 cases, it's an earlier aircraft/flight which is being displayed with incorrect aircraft and squawk details from a later flight whose hex code differs by a single bit.

And that ties up with the way that a flight will timeout and when the selection arrow transfers to a new flight there is no update of either photos or distance/bearing etc.

[tarbat]

There's a trend emerging here - in each of the 3 cases, it's an earlier aircraft/flight which is being displayed with incorrect aircraft and squawk details from a later flight whose hex code differs by a single bit.

But why do some users see this happening a lot, and others (like me) have only ever seen it happen once or twice.

I still think it's down to reception conditions.  If it was always the LSB, or the MSB that got substituted, then I would consider a software problem.  But sometimes it's bit 2, or bit 3, etc.  That suggests corruption of the signal to me, not a software error.

Could be a firmware issue I suppose.

[DaveReid]

But why do some users see this happening a lot, and others (like me) have only ever seen it happen once or twice.

Think about it. 

In order for this to happen, it would appear that you need to be picking up two aircraft with near-matching hex codes either simultaneously or, possibly, while the second one is in range and before the first one has timed out.  I'd suggest that those circumstances are more likely to arise in a high-traffic area than in the north of Scotland, not forgetting that there must be an additional, as yet unidentified, factor which is contributing to the result.

[Fenris]

Note to Airnav, the polar diagram drawing code on 3.07 is still sometimes drawing one or more lines that cross inside the polar diagram edges.