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MrT

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Quiet Saturday Afternoon
« on: October 03, 2009, 03:19:46 AM »
Geeze it's quiet here in Melbourne on Saturday afternoons.

Not much happening.

Dum de dum (twiddling of thumbs) : )

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Re: Quiet Saturday Afternoon
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2009, 03:25:31 AM »
I think you were asking about military aircraft from Richmond.

Unfortunately for all military this is about all you get (Mode S, Altitude, Squawk)



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Re: Quiet Saturday Afternoon
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2009, 03:38:19 AM »
Thanks PJM,

Yes, its a shame they don't transmit more info.



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Re: Quiet Saturday Afternoon
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2009, 07:27:09 AM »
Yes, its a shame they don't transmit more info.

Well if they did that then something pointy and explosive could well come their way. There are always cases where somebody has mis-set the switches during combat ops.

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Re: Quiet Saturday Afternoon
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2009, 07:57:24 AM »
I think that would probably happen regardless of simple ADS-B transmisions.

Mass hysteria, fear and paranoia have really got a grip on the western world since 911.


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Re: Quiet Saturday Afternoon
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2009, 08:00:41 AM »
You can also populate the aircraft details manually using DataBase Explorer if they are not being auto-populated so that you get more information.  This is from airframes.org


A97-467    Lockheed Martin    C-130J-30 Hercules   C30J   5467 L4T    7CF83A   Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF)   2000            
Remarks:    37 Sqn


That would also give you the aircraft silhouette.  You can then set an Alert for 7CF* mode S codes to capture the Australian military aircraft (need to check that code though, to make sure that they are all in this sequence).
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Re: Quiet Saturday Afternoon
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2009, 08:02:42 AM »
You can also populate the aircraft details manuall if they are not being auto-populated so that you get more information.  This is from airframes.org


A97-467    Lockheed Martin    C-130J-30 Hercules   C30J   5467 L4T    7CF83A   Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF)   2000            
Remarks:    37 Sqn


Thanks Allocator

I'll do that.

Cheers,

Paul.

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Re: Quiet Saturday Afternoon
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2009, 04:38:23 AM »
I think you were asking about military aircraft from Richmond.
Unfortunately for all military this is about all you get (Mode S, Altitude, Squawk)

Well what do you know - just spotted an RAAF plane sending ADS-B. It went on to land at Sydney, not Richmond though....


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Re: Quiet Saturday Afternoon
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2009, 04:41:56 AM »
Nice one.

Maybe the PM's jet ?? : )

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Re: Quiet Saturday Afternoon
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2009, 07:21:07 AM »
Well what do you know - just spotted an RAAF plane sending ADS-B. It went on to land at Sydney, not Richmond though....



You might want to take the opportunity to correct the type code in your NavData.db3 database - "B73B" isn't a valid ICAO code.  RAAF A36-002 is a 737-7DF (ICAO B737) and I note that there are another 100 or so "B73B"s in my NavData, most should be ICAO B737s or B738s.

Other "B73B"s include, for some strange reason, a Fokker F-27 (N737A), a Gulfstream V (VP-BNZ) and a Sikorsky S-55 (N739A) !

Having said that, the signs are looking good, now that V3 is out, that the aircraft details/photo issue will soon be fixed once and for all.
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Re: Quiet Saturday Afternoon
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2009, 08:44:18 AM »
You might want to take the opportunity to correct the type code in your NavData.db3 database - "B73B" isn't a valid ICAO code.  RAAF A36-002 is a 737-7DF (ICAO B737) and I note that there are another 100 or so "B73B"s in my NavData, most should be ICAO B737s or B738s.

Is there somewhere I can get an up to date list (like from the airframes.org you mentioned recently) and populate all the missing/incorrect fields in a bulk update somehow?

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Re: Quiet Saturday Afternoon
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2009, 10:29:27 AM »
Is there somewhere I can get an up to date list (like from the airframes.org you mentioned recently) and populate all the missing/incorrect fields in a bulk update somehow?

You can easily verify what is and isn't a valid ICAO Type Designator by using ICAO's own website at www.icao.int/anb/ais/8643 and then you can use any of the SQLite utilities to do a batch update of your NavData.db3.

I can't understand why AirNav haven't done that themselves, there's really no excuse.  But as I said in my last post, issues like this should shortly be a thing of the past.
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