No one is undermining anybody here, a bit of fun maybe, but for those of you involved in the testing, you are in the privileged position of knowing what the delay is, for the rest of us when we get told that the release is less than 24 hours, well we get excited and then disappointed when the time comes and then goes, the forum would be dull if we did not pass on our opinions or have a little fun, so lighten up a little.