RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta

[davec]

hi airnav development,i have tried installing the new patch all three ways ,just coming up as i said before this aplication hasfailed to start beacuse rb.di try restarting the application etc, when the beta 3,0 came out i had to do a new full down load lossing all my data, which is a real pain as i have put a load of new routes in the new beta, i tried cut and paste that didnt work either , i have a new pc with windows xp
any ideas
thanks davec

[Fenris]

MSG,n type messages on port 30003 are 5-minute delayed.  Others, such as AIR, ID, SEL, etc. are real-time (I think).

Squawk is 5-minute delayed - I just wish Airnav had incorporated Squawk Code lookup in v3, but it didn't make it into the final version :(  I really miss the ability to get automatic squawk code lookups in real-time, the only backward-step in v3.

I'm still struggling to understand why messages that do not contain positional information are delayed on port 30003, I thought I remembered reading some time ago that Airnav accepted that it was only these messages that had to be delayed. Since then the position has become increasingly unclear to me.

[AirNav Development]

davec: contact our support at [email protected] and they will help you.

Fenris: MSG messages are delayed, SEL and AIR are real-time. Isn't this the way it works in SBS-1 output port? Remember this is still a beta and we are open for changes/corrections so no panic! :-)

[marcdeklerk]

Airnav, may I have the google earth maps back please!

or maby an option to select between the new maps, and the google earth ones.

The resolution down South here is very bad using the current "new" map. Google earth was perfect for me.

Also I see I am getting duplicate entries in the Reporter:
00AFC5  SAA AA06                 ZS-SBS  B744  South African Air... 2009/07/24 15:42:27 
   00AFC5  SAA AA06                 ZS-SBS  B744  South African Air... 2009/07/24 15:43:06 
   00AFC5  SAA AA06                 ZS-SBS  B744  South African Air... 2009/07/24 15:43:35 
   00AFC5  SAA060                   ZS-SBS  B744  South African Air... 2009/07/24 15:42:46 
   00AFC5  SAA060                   ZS-SBS  B744  South African Air... 2009/07/24 15:42:47 
   00AFC5  SAA060                   ZS-SBS  B744  South African Air... 2009/07/24 15:43:40 
   00AFC5  SAA060                   ZS-SBS  B744  South African Air... 2009/07/24 15:44:05 
   00AFC5  SAA060                   ZS-SBS  B744  South African Air... 2009/07/24 15:44:25 
   00AFC5  SAA060                   ZS-SBS  B744  South African Air... 2009/07/24 15:44:55 
   00AFC5  SAA060                   ZS-SBS  B744  South African Air... 2009/07/24 15:45:45 
   00AFC5  SAA0AA06                 ZS-SBS  B744  South African Air... 2009/07/24 15:44:00 
   00AFC5  SAA0AA06                 ZS-SBS  B744  South African Air... 2009/07/24 15:44:01 
   00AFC5  SAA0AA06                 ZS-SBS  B744  South African Air... 2009/07/24 15:44:15 
   00AFC5  SAA0AA06                 ZS-SBS  B744  South African Air... 2009/07/24 15:44:50 
   00AFC5  SAA0AA06                 ZS-SBS  B744  South African Air... 2009/07/24 15:45:40 
   00AFC5  UA AA06                  ZS-SBS  B744  South African Air... 2009/07/24 15:43:30

[jgrloit]

On Port 30003 - if you need ALL MSG types to be delayed, could you generate an additional messgae type - SQK for instance, on the port with Zero delay?

[AirNav Development]

Guys: just to keep you all updated, we plan to listen to all your opinions until next Monday,  Jul 27. Please try to keep a discussion on this topic only. Report any problems and minor suggestions only. After this we will resume work to release V3.02. Only when we get green light from you all we will release the final non-beta version.

[John Racars]

Guys: just to keep you all updated, we plan to listen to all you opinions until next Monday,  Jul 27.

Hi Support,

Verry good suggestion! This will give me (and hopefully much other users) all the rest to see what we can suggest to you in the next coming days!

[John Racars]

Also I see I am getting duplicate entries in the Reporter:

Hi Marc,

I have seen the same in my reports and I reported this from the beginning to  Support. I think they are working on it and hopefully this problem will be solved in a next version.

[Fenris]

Fenris: MSG messages are delayed, SEL and AIR are real-time. Isn't this the way it works in SBS-1 output port? Remember this is still a beta and we are open for changes/corrections so no panic! :-)

Oh I wasn't panicking, merely trying to understand the way it works.

My suggestion would be, rather than simply filtering delayed port 30003 output on whether it is a MSG packet, how about doing so only for MSG packets that contain positional information. I haven't heard anyone complain that Basestation doesn't output Squawk info in real time. I think you should aim for matching the message types and formats used by SBS-1 outputs, the delay status does not need to be equivalent.

I would like to say that I'm pleased that we have a new beta to play with, kudos to all the people that made this happen, wherever and whoever you are!

I will try to make some suggestions when I have had time to investigate further, assuming that I find anything that is....

[AirNav Development]

Fenris: copied. We will analyze if we can do it. Keep the discussion going as it is very important to know all the users opinion on this version. Earlier next week we will compile all the feedback and do the relevant programming/changes.

[Jeremy]

I am finding the box freezes after being left running for a hour or so. Even with other programs closed down it tries to move the plots but then freezes again. I have to close down and reboot to get operating again. Could this be something to do with the timing on my screen saver?? or something else?
Jeremy.

[Fenris]

I am finding the box freezes after being left running for a hour or so. Even with other programs closed down it tries to move the plots but then freezes again. I have to close down and reboot to get operating again. Could this be something to do with the timing on my screen saver?? or something else?
Jeremy.

The only thing that comes to mind is if you have the USB hub in your machine set to power down. If this didn't happen with v2.01 then it probably isn't that, if so I don't have any idea as so far we haven't seen a lot of reports of this for 3.01 beta.

[slipdog]

Hi,
I still cant seem to get any alerts coming up for flight numbers i have set.

They have not worked for me since i loaded the beta's.

Also is it possible for the planes to stop sending out signals?
I was tracking a flight RYR1925 from Murcia Spain LELC to East mids EGNX and it was flying far east of France (not normal path) and then it has disappeared after 5 mins and its never appeared since and its landing in 5 mins and i cannot even pick it with my rig. So basically not seen by network or locally but i have all other planes flying into EGNX.
Is this a bug?

Also did i read somewhere a while ago that there was going to be a right mouse click to give you more options when hovering over a flight on the map?

Cheers

Rich.

[slipdog]

Well would you believe it, its turned up RYR1925, but its on a really unusual flight path to normal, maybe it was just not being picked up by any network.

[Jeremy]

Maybe you have what I suffer from which is interaction between the signal rxed direct and by those on the network.
Jeremy.