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GlynH

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Re: What military aircraft do you get in your logs ?
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2009, 12:01:15 PM »
Thanks Glyn & Tarbat,

         Re: the F-15's - do they show up as F-15's in your log or is the a/c type left blank & you tie them up from the 6 digit code (or even just know they are F-15's from the callsigns) ?
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Hi Bat 21,

They just show up as F-15's in MyLog - see attached picture for some of the F-15's I have recorded.

I do no tie-ups whatsoever and the thought of using Database Explorer fills me with horror - those of us who suffer with the slow menu syndrome also have big problems with Database Explorer, MyLog & navigating anywhere within the program - it really is unusable for me...:-(

So what you see is an unedited verison of MyLog - there are also more F-15's listed in there...

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« Last Edit: June 07, 2009, 12:13:30 PM by GlynH »

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Re: What military aircraft do you get in your logs ?
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2009, 12:23:55 PM »
With regard to Tornado GR.4 they seem to be being reallocated codes from F.3s that have been withdrawn from service

Yes, I'm starting to notice this too.  I now plan to review my logs, and any Tornado operating below 500ft (in the Tain Bombing Range) MAY be a GR4.

Tarbat,
Here is what I have for TOR in my log if it helps and if you can fill any gaps I'd be grateful.

03C16D      TOR   Miss-code 43C16D  (BATMAN01) 9 Sqn               2009/05/22 09:17:27   2009/05/22 08:35:57
43C084      TOR                  2009/05/14 12:05:33   2009/05/14 11:56:41
43C094      TOR                  2009/04/16 14:17:32   2009/04/16 12:57:29
43C16F      TOR   (COBRA02)               2009/01/28 10:52:45   2009/01/28 11:48:06
43C17B      TOR   (FANG 02)               2009/05/26 20:32:41   2009/05/26 20:26:58
43C1AE      TOR   (VILLAN75)               2009/06/03 12:01:16   2009/06/03 11:38:48
43C1B2      TOR                  2009/06/03 10:38:02   2009/06/03 10:36:40
43C1BB      TOR                  2009/05/20 10:42:12   2009/03/06 09:19:17
43C1A9   ZA372   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4               2009/06/04 15:29:28   2009/01/30 12:08:49
43C15F   ZA404   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4A               2009/03/04 13:56:34   2009/03/04 13:55:29
43C156   ZA598   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4               2009/05/19 14:32:11   2009/03/26 12:21:46
43C168   ZA606   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4               2009/05/20 16:44:41   2009/04/23 09:49:28
43C160   ZD720   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4               2009/04/24 12:33:45   2009/04/06 11:52:51
43C15E   ZD745   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4               2009/05/28 11:46:48   2009/03/05 11:01:33
43C180   ZD780   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4               2009/05/19 14:20:54   2009/05/19 13:04:57
43C18D   ZD844   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4               2009/04/20 14:09:10   2009/03/20 11:22:57
43C00B   ZE164   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3               2009/05/29 12:21:52   2009/05/29 12:15:03
43C00F   ZE200   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3               2009/05/28 15:38:50   2009/05/28 15:31:52
43C010   ZE201   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3               2009/02/14 12:15:32   2009/02/14 11:56:11
43C020   ZE338   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3               2009/03/15 15:11:27   2009/02/14 12:04:01
43C023   ZE341   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3               2009/06/03 15:47:27   2009/06/03 14:32:26
43C031   ZE788   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3               2009/05/28 10:47:06   2009/02/14 12:24:14
43C039   ZE831   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3               2009/04/07 15:36:44   2009/04/07 14:53:00
43C047   ZE961   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3               2009/04/06 17:30:30   2009/04/01 15:36:25
43C152   ZG712   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4A               2009/04/06 14:25:28   2009/02/01 13:44:04
43C187   ZG713   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4               2009/06/04 16:05:42   2009/04/22 21:00:09
43C05A   ZG774   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3               2009/06/02 13:02:55   2009/06/02 12:51:16
43C170   ZG791   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4               2009/02/27 13:42:38   2009/02/27 13:38:28
71028B   ZH917   TOR   Panavia Tornado IDS               2009/02/20 12:34:13   2009/02/20 11:44:15

Cheers John
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Re: What military aircraft do you get in your logs ?
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2009, 12:28:30 PM »
Having worked on both GR's and F3's anything below 500ft is definetly a GR. F3's dont like going that low unless the wheels are down and locked!

So, whats a realistic minimum altitude for an F3 (when not landing)?

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Re: What military aircraft do you get in your logs ?
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2009, 12:48:31 PM »
around hear in northumberland 8000plus seems the norm know from working on them they hated down in the weeds especially chasing buccs

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Re: What military aircraft do you get in your logs ?
« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2009, 02:41:09 PM »
Thanks again Glyn,
                  Good to know that F-15's do auto-populate

    Looked at my log & found 2 codes that did not auto-populate but according to the Gatwick Aviation Soc looks like they were F-15E's ( AE1799 & AE17A9 )
 ..reckon these are the only 2 my box has ever picked up ... not too surprising as I am no where near Lakenheath ( 7 miles North of Newcastle airport ) & my R-box is rarely running during weekdays when we may get the odd F-15 over our local ranges.

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Re: What military aircraft do you get in your logs ?
« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2009, 05:32:07 PM »
I have noticed that about five of the F-15 aircraft I have listed in MyLog are listed as Boeing F-15 and not McDonnell-Douglas F-15.

I also have around a further 22 ModeS that are a very strong possibility for F-15's although as I said I do not intend to manually input into Database Explorer as it is so crude to work with at the best of times and for me totally unusable due to the delays in clicking on a box to edit and anything actually happening. Even the mouse pointer disappears while it is waiting for something to happen...

I'll be content with my auto-populated F-15 listing for now...I really should get back to work!

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Re: What military aircraft do you get in your logs ?
« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2009, 05:53:42 PM »
I have noticed that about five of the F-15 aircraft I have listed in MyLog are listed as Boeing F-15 and not McDonnell-Douglas F-15.

After Boeing look over MD in about 1997. the designation slowly changed over - you'll see the same with C-17's

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Re: What military aircraft do you get in your logs ?
« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2009, 05:58:17 PM »
around hear in northumberland 8000plus seems the norm know from working on them they hated down in the weeds especially chasing buccs

About right as far as I know. When I worked on the OCU though they didn't usually go below 15K so if the baby pilots got into trouble there was plenty of time to do something about it
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Re: What military aircraft do you get in your logs ?
« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2009, 09:28:54 PM »
Hi All,

As it was raining I delved into what I could find on UK Tornado's. So here goes

Legend
SCR = Scrapped 2008,
STD = Stored Shawbury
FI = Falkland Islands
GI = Ground Instruction
WLT = Weapons Load Trainer
WFU = Withdrawn from use
Active or Date / Time last recorded by my RB

03C16D      TOR   Miss-code 43C16D  (BATMAN01) 9 Sqn   2009/05/22 09:17:27
43C007   ZE161   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   WFU
43C008   ZE162   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   WFU
43C00B   ZE164   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   2009/05/29 12:21:52
43C00C   ZE165   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   STD
43C00D   ZE168   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   ACTIVE
43C00F   ZE200   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   2009/05/28 15:38:50
43C010   ZE201   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   2009/02/14 12:15:32
43C011   ZE203   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   ACTIVE
43C015   ZE254   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   SCR
43C016   ZE250   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   STD
43C018   ZE256   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   WFU
43C019   ZE257   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   ACTIVE
43C01A   ZE287   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   SCR
43C01C   ZE292   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   ACTIVE
43C020   ZE338   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   2009/03/15 15:11:27
43C021   ZE343   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   SCR
43C022   ZE728   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   GI
43C023   ZE341   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   2009/06/03 15:47:27
43C026   ZE342   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   ACTIVE
43C027   ZE731   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   WLT
43C028   ZG734   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   ACTIVE
43C02C   ZE757   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   ACTIVE
43C02D   ZE758   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   ACTIVE
43C02E   ZE763   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   ACTIVE
43C02F   ZE764   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   ACTIVE
43C031   ZE788   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   2009/05/28 10:47:06
43C032   ZE790   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   ACTIVE
43C033   ZE791   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   ACTIVE
43C034   ZE793   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   ACTIVE
43C039   ZE831   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   2009/04/07 15:36:44
43C03D   ZE887   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   ACTIVE
43C040   ZE907   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   WFU
43C042   ZE786   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   SCR
43C043   ZE793   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   ACTIVE
43C044   ZE936   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   ACTIVE
43C045   ZE941   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   WFU
43C047   ZE961   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   2009/04/06 17:30:30
43C049   ZE963   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   ACTIVE
43C04A   ZE964   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   WFU
43C04B   ZE965   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   ACTIVE
43C04F   ZE968   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   ACTIVE
43C052   ZE983   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   ACTIVE
43C054   ZG751   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   WFU(FI)
43C055   ZG753   TOR    Panavia Tornado F3   ACTIVE (FI)
43C056   ZG755   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   ACTIVE (FI)
43C057   ZG757   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   WFU
43C059   ZG772   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   WFU
43C05A   ZG774   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   2009/06/02 13:02:55
43C05D   ZG780   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   WFU
43C05E   ZG793   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   SCR
43C062   ZG798   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   GI
43C063   ZG799   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   SCR
43C064   ZH552   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   ACTIVE
43C065   ZH553   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   STD
43C066   ZH554   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   ACTIVE
43C067   ZH555   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   WFU
43C069   ZH557   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   ACTIVE
43C06B   ZH559   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   WFU
43C078   ZE255   TOR   Panavia Tornado F3   WFU
43C084      TOR      2009/05/14 12:05:33
43C094      TOR      2009/04/16 14:17:32
43C150   ZA547   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4   
43C151   ZA554   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4   
43C152   ZG712   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4A   2009/04/06 14:25:28
43C153   ZA553   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4   
43C154   ZA591   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4   
43C156   ZA598   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4   2009/05/19 14:32:11
43C15E   ZD745   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4   2009/05/28 11:46:48
43C15F   ZA404   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4A   2009/03/04 13:56:34
43C160   ZD720   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4   2009/04/24 12:33:45
43C168   ZA606   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4   2009/05/20 16:44:41
43C16A   ZA560   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4   
43C16B   ZG709   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4   
43C16D      TOR      
43C16E      TOR      
43C16F      TOR   (COBRA02)   2009/01/28 10:52:45
43C170   ZG791   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4   2009/02/27 13:42:38
43C175   ZG775   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4   
43C176   ZG729   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4   
43C177   ZG714   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4   
43C17A      TOR      
43C17B      TOR   (FANG 02)   2009/05/26 20:32:41
43C17C      TOR      
43C17E      TOR      
43C17F      TOR      
43C180   ZD790   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4   2009/05/19 14:20:54
43C183      TOR      
43C187   ZG713   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4   2009/06/04 16:05:42
43C18C   ZG779   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4   
43C18D   ZD844   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4   2009/04/20 14:09:10
43C18F      TOR      
43C1A5   ZG777   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4   
43C1A9   ZA372   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4   2009/06/04 15:29:28
43C1AE      TOR   (VILLAN75)   2009/06/03 12:01:16
43C1B2      TOR      2009/06/03 10:38:02
43C1B5      TOR   (LOSSIE53)   
43C1B6   ZG752   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4   
43C1B7   ZA395   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4   
43C1BB      TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4   2009/05/20 10:42:12
43C1BE   ZD716   TOR   Panavia Tornado GR4   
71028B   ZH917   TOR   Panavia Tornado IDS   2009/02/20 12:34:13

If anyone can add to or fill any gaps I would be gratefull

HTH John
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Re: What military aircraft do you get in your logs ?
« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2009, 10:54:01 PM »
After Boeing look over MD in about 1997. the designation slowly changed over - you'll see the same with C-17's

Not forgetting the Boeing DC-3 ...
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Re: What military aircraft do you get in your logs ?
« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2009, 06:41:59 PM »
I live very close to RAF Benson and not too far from Northolt and Brize, so a good number of Brit Mil overfly. Have 174 RAF and AAC a/c in mylog (Mode S) including over 20 Puma, plenty of AAC Apaches, Lynx and Gazelle, odd examples of Tucano and Boscombe Alphajet and even the BBMF Hurricane and Spitfire!

However I do not have a single Merlin or Chinook unless these are amongst the 14 in the log without serial tie-ups. Anyone know any of the hex codes for these? If not, anyone know why the 30+ year old Pumas are fitted with Mode S and the 5 year old Merlins are not?

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Re: What military aircraft do you get in your logs ?
« Reply #26 on: June 09, 2009, 08:29:10 PM »
However I do not have a single Merlin or Chinook unless these are amongst the 14 in the log without serial tie-ups. Anyone know any of the hex codes for these? If not, anyone know why the 30+ year old Pumas are fitted with Mode S and the 5 year old Merlins are not?

Here's a few to be getting on with:

43C06C ZJ117 Merlin HC3 RAF / 28 Sqn A
43C070 ZJ121 Merlin HC3 RAF / 28 Sqn E
43C074 ZJ125 Merlin HC3 RAF / 28 Sqn J
43C076 ZJ127 Merlin HC3 RAF / 28 Sqn L
43C225 ZJ130 Merlin HC3 RAF / 28 Sqn O
43C227 ZJ132 Merlin HC3 RAF / 28 Sqn Q
43C2FB ZJ990 Merlin HC3 RAF / 78 Sqn AA
43C30D ZH833 Merlin HM1 RN / 824 NAS 85
43C311 ZH837 Merlin HM1 RN / 829 NAS
43C318 ZH846 Merlin HM1 RN / 829 NAS 0
43C321 ZH855 Merlin HM1 RN / 814 NAS 267
43C283 XW199 Puma HC1 RAF / 33 Sqn
43C28A XW208 Puma HC1 RAF / 33 Sqn
43C28C XW210 Puma HC1 RAF / 33 Sqn
43C28E XW212 Puma HC1 RAF / 1563 Flt
43C28F XW213 Puma HC1 RAF / 1563 Flt
43C290 XW214 Puma HC1 RAF / 33 Sqn
43C291 XW216 Puma HC1 RAF / 230 Sqn
43C292 XW217 Puma HC1 RAF / 33 Sqn
43C294 XW219 Puma HC1 RAF / 1563 Flt
43C295 XW220 Puma HC1 RAF / 230 Sqn
43C297 XW222 Puma HC1 RAF /
43C298 XW223 Puma HC1 RAF / 230 Sqn
43C299 XW224 Puma HC1 RAF / 33 Sqn
43C29B XW226 Puma HC1 RAF / 230 Sqn
43C29D XW229 Puma HC1 RAF / 33 Sqn
43C29F XW232 Puma HC1 RAF / 33 Sqn
43C2A1 XW235 Puma HC1 RAF / 230 Sqn
43C2A3 XW237 Puma HC1 RAF / 33 Sqn
43C2A5 ZA935 Puma HC1 RAF / 230 Sqn
43C2AB ZE449 Puma HC1 RAF / 33 Sqn
43C2AD ZJ954 Puma HC1 RAF / 230 Sqn
43C2AE ZJ955 Puma HC1 RAF / 33 Sqn
43C2AF ZJ956 Puma HC1 RAF / 33 Sqn
43C2B0 ZJ957 Puma HC1 RAF / 33 Sqn

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Re: What military aircraft do you get in your logs ?
« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2009, 10:34:36 PM »
some c17's kc135, vip transport, but all the low level mil, that is less than  1500 ft don't have transmit lvl or position so even though i get tens of overflights on my head each day i cannot see them. i live near a nato airfield and a training area run by cubic corporation, with a "playground" for hi lv air to air and lo lvl a air to sea and air to land facilities d39 and r54 areas
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Re: What military aircraft do you get in your logs ?
« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2009, 07:02:08 AM »
some c17's kc135, vip transport, but all the low level mil, that is less than  1500 ft don't have transmit lvl or position so even though i get tens of overflights on my head each day i cannot see them. i live near a nato airfield and a training area run by cubic corporation, with a "playground" for hi lv air to air and lo lvl a air to sea and air to land facilities d39 and r54 areas

You don't get positions because military aircraft, as a rule, don't send the Extended Squitter (ES) with that data.

You don't get levels for a different reason - non-ES aircraft only send altitude if they are being interrogated by a Mode S ground radar, so those that you are seeing in the sky are probably out of range of one, particularly if at low level.
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Re: What military aircraft do you get in your logs ?
« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2009, 08:00:40 AM »
I hardly ever get a mil ac NOT transmitting alt. I get AAC and RAF helis around here at 250' to 1500' always transmitting alt and I have NEVER had a US Mil ac not transmitting alt. That includes F-15s at LN.

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