okay I give up now.
After first trying to update the drivers as per first post and nothing, then using reinstall from HH post still nothing.
Uninstalled RB & Drivers restarted PC
Tried to reinstall everything, now cant get the drivers to install, connecting USB it does not ask for drivers, and nothing is displayed in device drivers.
So...
Manually removed everything again and this time checked to see if anything was left in registry... yes the drivers!!!! that it could not find...
So removed them and did a restart...
(Yes I do know what I'm doing in there before anyone asks)
Reinstalled RB, copied new drivers into the RB folder correctly, plugged in USB and found it, or so I thought... Drivers installed but still no hardware connection or drivers displayed in device manager.
So uninstalled everything again.
Installed CD version and tried that - nothing still no drivers being picked up
Copied over new driver files - same again...!
Now totally lost
What I have noticed is in an uninstall RB is not removing everything but more important, if you uninstall the drivers via FTDININ.exe it also does not remove ever file or registry line.
No idea what to try next, do not really want to do a fresh windows install (yet!)