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Title: Antenna Kits
Post by: MCarter on November 23, 2015, 01:48:19 PM
I noticed that AirNav sells antenna kits for the RadarBox. I was wondering if anyone can post photos of what the kit looks like? It seems like there is only a description but no image of the kit itself.
Title: Re: Antenna Kits
Post by: Runway 31 on November 23, 2015, 02:03:42 PM
This is the antenna on that comes with the kit http://www.radioworld.co.uk/radar-extender_external_antenna_for_radarbox

Alan
Title: Re: Antenna Kits
Post by: MCarter on November 23, 2015, 03:27:14 PM
Thanks for the photo. I am assuming that this has to be mounted on a pole in order to get the best height possible?

I wish there was a wireless system for home use rather than having cables. This way I could mount the antenna and have it transmit to my Radarbox. Does such a system even exist?
Title: Re: Antenna Kits
Post by: Runway 31 on November 23, 2015, 04:38:10 PM
Not that I am aware of.

Yes the more height the better combined with as short a cable run as possible as the longer the cable the more the loss.  Some users have the unit near the antenna to keep the cable run shorter and use a longer USB cable to the computer and I believe is also possible to have a wireless unit to transmit to the computer rather than using a USB cable

http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=4772.msg48023#msg48023

Alan
Title: Re: Antenna Kits
Post by: CoastGuardJon on November 23, 2015, 07:05:12 PM
I've used one of these active USB extender leads with excellent results for some years, with the psu near the RB.   mine's the 15m set up with the PC on the ground floor of a tall Victorian house.   I can thoroughly recommend this active set up as an effective solution.   Without the active unit, I was getting inadequate voltage from the PC usb to the RB for it to work at all.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/151450269847

Sorry, forgot to post the link.
Title: Re: Antenna Kits
Post by: MCarter on November 23, 2015, 08:17:56 PM
Thanks for the tip! I am just trying to figure out a setup that is cost effective but functional. I'm still waiting on support to get back to me about coverage in the Caribbean but I already know I may have to order everything I need and it may be pricey...
Title: Re: Antenna Kits
Post by: Runway 31 on November 23, 2015, 10:19:16 PM
Where in the Caribbean are you?

Alan
Title: Re: Antenna Kits
Post by: MCarter on November 23, 2015, 10:33:34 PM
Grenada. Just west of Barbados and North of Trinidad. Back when my Radar box was operational I got coverage over the Caribbean sea. Hopefully with some more power equipment I am sure I will get much more coverage. The image blow showed my coverage with the Radarbox antenna sitting on my porch...If I can get an antenna on my roof it will do much more.

(http://www.avsim.com/pages/0910/AirNav/rb930sec.JPG)

Title: Re: Antenna Kits
Post by: Runway 31 on November 24, 2015, 07:28:27 AM
What receiver are you using now?

Alan
Title: Re: Antenna Kits
Post by: MCarter on November 24, 2015, 10:01:17 AM
I am using the basic Radarbox Pro kit, nothing else.
Title: Re: Antenna Kits
Post by: Runway 31 on November 24, 2015, 10:17:57 AM
The antenna that comes with the unit does well only problem is the length of the cable.

I would suggest that you update to the latest version of the software.  One of the main benefits is that you can download a new database each day and keep everything up to date.

Full version 580Mb http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/ANRB/ANRB50072Setup.exe  I would suggest that you delete all traces of the original and then install to c:/Airnav no the program files location,  Its a big download and may take you some time.

Alternatively there is the upgrade from the original, just install over the original.http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/ANRB/ANRBUpgradeto50072.exe

Alan
Title: Re: Antenna Kits
Post by: MCarter on November 24, 2015, 01:39:23 PM
Thanks I will give the new version a try. Unfortunately I had to move my PC to a room that is far away from my porch so the antenna won't reach there.
Title: Re: Antenna Kits
Post by: Runway 31 on November 24, 2015, 02:07:19 PM
If you can get your antenna out of a window to let it see the sky you may pick up something

Alan
Title: Re: Antenna Kits
Post by: MCarter on November 24, 2015, 04:52:17 PM
I've run into a few strange issues. I am using Windows 8.1 so I hope this isn't the problem.

1. When initializing the RadarBox program, it lags quite a bit when it reached the point where it says "RB1 Found) When I unplug the device, the program continues to initialize and it starts up right away.

2. When trying to auto find my location, I am getting a message that says it was unable to get my location from the internet.

3. When closing the application, it doesn't fully terminate. I have to unplug my radarbox and then the program fully closes.

Other than that, everything else seems to be OK, the program is recognizing the hardware as being connected
Title: Re: Antenna Kits
Post by: Runway 31 on November 24, 2015, 05:14:24 PM
You will may need the Windows 8 drivers http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/anrb/drivers/ANRB-Win8Drivers-v2.08.30.zip  See the sticky at the top of the forum page re Windows 8.1 but it sounds as though you are OK.

It is normal for a delay in initialising, there is lots to set up, usually takes a couple of minutes, don't unplug or anything just let it do its thing.

You are better using google earth to find your location, have it set to decimal them enter it manually

Always close down using File/Exit, don't use the rec cross method.

To update the database go to File/Database Explorer/Database updates/Update all records.  Then press start Update.  You will then see a green progress bar going from left to right.  Once completed it will then start processing and when complete it will ask you to close down and restart Radarbox.  On starting up it will finish processing before starting the app.  The d/b has around 235,000 records in the aircraft table and you can check the by looking at Database Explorer/Tables/Aircraft and you should see the number 235,*** rows loaded in ****ms

Alan
Title: Re: Antenna Kits
Post by: MCarter on November 24, 2015, 05:51:13 PM
Thanks. I had previously downloaded the windows 8 driver and I was able to install it a day ago. The program picks up the hardware as being installed so I assume that everything is OK on that end.

I will try to change the location search to Google earth and see if that works.

Just an added suggestion, I noticed that there have been very few videos posted on the AirNav youtube challenge. It would be nice to have a video that shows the setup for the fully Radarbox unit and Antenna Kits. I know most advanced users would know how to get everything up and running, but I just thought it would be a good idea to see it done as a reference.
Title: Re: Antenna Kits
Post by: Runway 31 on November 24, 2015, 06:11:12 PM
Regarding your location I meant go onto Goggle Earth and find your property.  Go toTools/Options on it and set Show Lat/Long to Decimal Degrees and then zoom into your location and you will see your lat/long bottom right of the window.  Insert that manually and then apply, remember the - before the numbers for the Longitude.
Title: Re: Antenna Kits
Post by: MCarter on November 24, 2015, 10:48:48 PM
Ok, I was able to set the location manually, but the software startup is still a problem. I literally left it for about an hour and it did not start at all until I unplugged the Radarbox. The blue flashing (once per second) light is on when the program is on once I reconnect the radarbox.

Upon exiting the program, I tried your suggestion and the problem remains the same. It doesn't close off until I unplug the unit again.
Title: Re: Antenna Kits
Post by: Runway 31 on November 25, 2015, 07:43:04 AM
These are new issues no one has reported in the last couple of years since the new versions came out

Did you install the update or full version?  In my opinion it is better to uninstall and delete all reference to the previous version including manually deleting any orphan files.  Thereafter installing the full version to c:/Airnav and using the  Windows 8 drivers and following the advice in the sticky.  I also like to follow the usual advice not to connect the USB lead until the software is installed.

If that does not fix the issue I would suggest you drop a line to [email protected]

Alan
Title: Re: Antenna Kits
Post by: MCarter on November 25, 2015, 10:10:23 AM
I installed the full version but before doing so, I uninstall the old and deleted all files pertaining to Radarbox. I installed the drivers about two days ago following the instructions.
Title: Re: Antenna Kits
Post by: Runway 31 on November 25, 2015, 10:28:15 AM
Sorry I have no idea why it should be doing that as no one else has reported that issue, maybe support can assist.

Alan
Title: Re: Antenna Kits
Post by: Runway 31 on November 25, 2015, 11:02:39 AM
Try installing the software again and see if that sorts it out just in case something went astray the first time.

Alan
Title: Re: Antenna Kits
Post by: MCarter on November 25, 2015, 11:58:13 AM


Full version 580Mb http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/ANRB/ANRB50072Setup.exe  I would suggest that you delete all traces of the original and then install to c:/Airnav no the program files location,  Its a big download and may take you some time.

Alternatively there is the upgrade from the original, just install over the original.http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/ANRB/ANRBUpgradeto50072.exe

Alan

The full download exe shows as 399MB not 580MB, is this the correct file? I will do some more testing today.
Title: Re: Antenna Kits
Post by: MCarter on November 25, 2015, 12:41:56 PM
Well I finally figured it out. I had to run the AirNav Software using the "Run as Administrator" option. After doing this I had no issues with loading and closing the software with the receiver plugged in.
Title: Re: Antenna Kits
Post by: Runway 31 on November 25, 2015, 01:33:38 PM
Well done that man, glad you got it going.  As for the file, I was going by memory so looks like its not so hot, I knew it was big anyway but sorry about the duff info.

Alan
Title: Re: Antenna Kits
Post by: MCarter on November 25, 2015, 10:20:52 PM
Bad news, it seems like my "solution" was hit or miss. What seems to work is not having the radarbox connected when starting the program and disconnecting it to close off the program.
Title: Re: Antenna Kits
Post by: Runway 31 on November 25, 2015, 10:43:11 PM
I would suggest that you install again and reload the drivers.  Don't have the USB cable connected until after every thing is ri installed including the drivers.

Alan
Title: Re: Antenna Kits
Post by: MCarter on November 26, 2015, 08:33:15 PM
Thanks for the suggestion, I just tried this and the results are the same.