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Title: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: Kenny on August 02, 2015, 02:09:18 AM
Since now Windows 10 has officially released.  Has anyone upgrade it from Win 7 with ANRB installed?  What is the experience?

Kenny
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: Runway 31 on August 02, 2015, 07:19:00 AM
Kenny,

See this thread for info http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=8290.0

Alan
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: Starburstdave on August 02, 2015, 09:38:58 AM
Kenny / Alan
I use radarbox on two laptops. One ran on Windows 8.1 and the other on Windows 7. I upgraded both laptops on Friday and up to now both are running Radarbox perfectly fine. I was expecting to have problems but encountered none at all. I left the USB plugged into the laptop on both upgrades and the drivers were found and they both appeared as Air Nav Radarbox in Device Manager.

Dave
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: Runway 31 on August 02, 2015, 09:44:27 AM
Thanks for the info Dave, appreciated

Alan
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: palnecrazyuk on August 02, 2015, 02:26:12 PM
I have done just the same as above, left everything plugged in, and now have nothing showing on map and only part of the lists working, not sure whats happend but the box is not doing as it should!! and has it did yesterday! Any advice?
Thanks
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: Runway 31 on August 02, 2015, 02:29:13 PM
Try loading the RB software back in

Alan
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: Javaradiofrance on August 03, 2015, 11:53:51 AM
Hello; With only installation of Windows 10 (this is not an upgrade from win win 7 or 8), I think Radarbox does not. Yet the light is green on the same interface when the USB cable is disconnected. Thank you to tell me if there's a solution. Sincerely yours.
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: Runway 31 on August 03, 2015, 12:00:47 PM
Which drivers did you use, I would suggest the Windows 8 ones from the support page http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/anrb/drivers/ANRB-Win8Drivers-v2.08.30.zip and use the advice given on the links above in the thread

Also I would suggest you contact [email protected] if these don't work

Alan
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: Javaradiofrance on August 03, 2015, 12:26:19 PM
I used those windows 8 Site RadarBox.
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: Runway 31 on August 03, 2015, 12:49:05 PM
Did you boot Windows 10 with Driver Checking disabled (Option 7 under advanced Settings )
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: FACTflights on August 03, 2015, 03:26:27 PM
Yesterday I downloaded and installed Windows 10.

I did not have to do anything to ANRB, it was a smooth transition.

So far only one complaint with Windows 10, the Windows Brouser is the default, I have not been able to switch the default to Firefox which is my favourite browser.
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: Javaradiofrance on August 03, 2015, 04:15:16 PM
I have installed win 10 as if it were a new installation. So I have no trace of windows 7 on my pc.
I use a SDR dongle and a weather station on two other USB devices. My RadarBox is always on the same USB port, when I was using win 7.
If anyone can explain the procedure with screenshot for my Radarbox works, it would be an asset.
I use google translation to understand the methods you give, but it reflects badly. As best I understand (I speak French and my English is basic).

Thanks for your help.
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: Javaradiofrance on August 03, 2015, 05:07:53 PM
I will wait until there is finnalement compl├ęte a solution for updating drivers win 10.
The proposed solutions are complex for me because of the language barrier.

Thank you to all.
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: FACTflights on August 04, 2015, 06:08:51 PM
My ANRB has been running for 24 hours on Win 10, no problems.

I started the application with "Run as Administrator"
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: tommyg on August 04, 2015, 06:52:39 PM
I have upgraded from WIN7 to WIN10 with no issues. The only difference is the 'App' has the standard non certified microsoft shield on it (My Itunes App is the same). If anything the screen is better defined on the new system.

tommyg
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: CoastGuardJon on August 05, 2015, 10:35:07 AM
Hi all who've gone to Win 10 - I'm on Win 8 - what are the benefits of moving to Win 10 please?
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: tommyg on August 05, 2015, 08:33:56 PM
Jon.

From a personal point of view not a lot, but having a laptop with WIN7 (now WIN10) and a tablet with WIN8.1 I do like having the start button back and not having to keep clicking window apps. Airnav works the same as usual slow to start up but runs well. I've even done a DB update with no problem. My planebase2 still works as well. Took about an hour to update but nothing bad to report.


 
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: tarbat on August 06, 2015, 09:59:40 AM
I've also moved from Win 8 to Win 10.  ANRB still works okay with no problems at all.  Just a few problems with other things such as MS Money and one device driver that needed attention, including a registry hack :(
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: Kenny on August 06, 2015, 11:49:47 AM
Finally upgraded.  Everything went smoothly.  Now running on Win10 over 24 hour now.   

Kenny
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: CoastGuardJon on August 06, 2015, 01:15:15 PM
Hi Tommy, Chris and Kenny, many thanks for your replies, the point I'm trying to get at is, exactly what does Win 10 that 8 doesn't - I don't use APPs whatever they are (I quite literally don't have a clue about APPs, I don't have a tablet Ipad - my phone is still an old Nokia 109, which is just the most basic phone only!).
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: tarbat on August 06, 2015, 02:02:07 PM
I upgrade to Windows 10 for several reasons:
1. It's a free upgrade
2. Return of the Start Menu
3. XBox streaming and integration
4. I'm a sucker for the latest and newest of anything!

If none of that is important to you, don't bother updating until you need to.

Worth reading http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/review/operating-systems-software/windows-8-vs-windows-10-comparison-review-3595035/
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: neroon79 on August 09, 2015, 05:24:46 AM
Transition Report Win10 for 2 out of 3 Computers running Win7:

1. ASUS Business Laptop for 24/7 operation: RB Connected during transition: ANRB Hardware and Software running without problems after Transition. I had to change some settings to get the automatic close down / re-start system back running.

RTL Dongle: didn't work, as windows downloaded and installed newest drivers for the hardware. For ADS-B a modified driver is needed. In Hardware Manager in one of the submenus of driver details is an item that gives you the option to switch back to old driver for the case that new drivers aren't working. I selcted this item and RTL Dongle was back to operation.

2. ACER Laptop: ANRB Hardware not connected during transition. SW was working immediately. I starteds it with hardware disconnected. After Software was running I cennected the RB Hardware and WIN10 started to install drivers. After about a minute airframe icons appeared on the map.

Same problem with RTL Dongle here. Switched to old driver, but didn't work. Reboot doesn't solve the problem. Following helped:

1. Get Zadig.   https://github.com/pbatard/libwdi/wiki#wiki-Downloads
2. RUN ZADIG as Administrator
3. IN OPTIONS -- Check "List all Devices" and UNCHECK "Ignore Hubs or Composite Parents"
4. Check the drivers for RTL2838UHIDIR Device
5. If it's not WinUSB (v6.1.7600.16385) chose re-install driver
6. You will see the 2 RTL2838 devices (Bulk...0 device and Bulk...1 device) dissapear.. But  1 WINUSB - RTL2838UHIDIR apear.
7. run dump1090 to see if it had worked

Unfortunately I can't test a clean install of WIN10, but so far transitions have worked relatively smooth for me.

Ingo
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: EK01 on August 10, 2015, 02:30:31 PM
Just downloaded and installed Windows 10 and ANRB has worked straight away without having to make any adjustments or work arounds.

Alan,

No need for you to come over early to fix anything !

Ian
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: Runway 31 on August 10, 2015, 02:33:47 PM
I wouldn't have minded anyway Ian

Alan
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: RodBearden on August 10, 2015, 07:09:23 PM
Ian - did you upgrade from Win 7 or 8?
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: vonsmalhausen on August 10, 2015, 10:54:42 PM
i upgraded from Win7 to 10, no Win8 drivers installed : no problem, everything works fine
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: RodBearden on August 11, 2015, 12:15:39 AM
Thanks, Vonsmalhausen

I'm still contemplating the move from 7 to 10 - I hate new operating systems - are you seeing any advantages?
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: EK01 on August 11, 2015, 09:02:11 AM
Rod,

Upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10. The only problem that I am currently having is that in Windows 7 if you wanted to add a new logo that you had created all you had to do was click on the information and a box came up saying 'Save As'. You clicked on that and it would automatically save to the logos folder.

In Windows 10 that does not happen with the result I am lost with regard to getting the latest Corendon logo you have provided to save to the logos folder. When you click on it, it now comes up as the logo finished downloading with 2 tabs either 'open or 'view download'. There is nothing to have it saved to the logos folder.

Any ideas ?

Ian
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: Runway 31 on August 11, 2015, 09:06:22 AM
Ian,

Try right clicking the logo link and then Save Target As and you should get to choose where to save it to.

Alan
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: EK01 on August 11, 2015, 09:13:22 AM
Alan,

Just done as you instructed and it worked !

Currently compiling a list of what requires your attention when you come over.

Ian

EDIT : This only works if you go through Internet Explorer not directly from the ANRB>Forum as this goes through Microsoft Edge and right clicking does not give 'Save as Target'.
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: vonsmalhausen on August 11, 2015, 10:48:44 AM
Rod, from 7 it is no big difference, just some cosmetic upgrade.
It is more a BIG improvement for those who (have to) use win8 now.
For the moment i can not find a real good reasonto make it from 7 to 10, the new internet explorer "Edge" is not all that impressive, but i use Firefox anyway.
To make use of the Win appstore, you have to sign-inn with a Windows account, who suddenly take's control of a lot of you're system, including the nessecesaty to put in a pasword everytime you start-up the system (but i found a way to go around this)
It takes rather some RAM memory to run well, specially start-up and shutdown ; i had to revert back to 7 on my laptop because of this.
You can install 10 on you're system no problem and check it out for 30 days, after that Win removes the back-up files who allows you to revert back ro 7.
So basickly you risk nothing trying it out, just DO NOT PERFORM A SYSTEM CLEEN-UP/OPTIMALISATION, i did this, resulting in the loss of those TEMP files, leaving me stuck with win 10, not that this is a problem as everything runs fine and i like the fresh stile of 10.
I have just one litle problem since i upgraded to 10 : now when i ad a photo or logo to the folder, they no longer sort automaticly in the folder, probably a setting somewhere, but i can't find it.
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: Runway 31 on August 11, 2015, 11:21:22 AM
No idea what Microsoft Edge is, I shall see when I come over but at least you can save your logos

Alan
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: neroon79 on August 11, 2015, 01:59:41 PM
Hi Alan,

regarding Edge: for me it's just another crappy microsoft web Browser.

Tried it out and decided to stay with firefox and chrome.

Ingo
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: EK01 on August 11, 2015, 02:31:21 PM
vonsmalhasuen,

If you save the logos as Alan suggested in reply #28, they do save and sort automatically in the folders.

Ian
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: RodBearden on August 11, 2015, 02:33:17 PM
Hi vonsmalhausen

As soon as Windows 8 was announced I rushed to by a new Windows 7 PC - so I've never experienced the "joys" of 8. I'm always very reluctant to change operating systems, and so far no-one has talked about any particular advantages of changing to 10 apart from getting rid of 8!

I'll certainly take your experience on board when I do decide to change - probably when they bring out version 10.1 to fix the bugs!
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: Runway 31 on August 11, 2015, 03:35:05 PM
Thanks Ingo.  I am staying with Window 7 as long as I can.

Alan
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: EK01 on August 11, 2015, 04:00:22 PM
Alan,

Don't worry, when you come over, I'll show you how it works :)

Ian
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: Runway 31 on August 11, 2015, 04:05:56 PM
Don't you mean your good lady will show me?

Alan
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: EK01 on August 11, 2015, 04:07:58 PM
Alan,

That goes without saying !

Ian
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: neroon79 on August 11, 2015, 04:22:39 PM
I've changed to Win10 on RB 24/7 to see if it is an option for the future. I kept the strong PC as an emergency fall back. The first test, a power mains outage, was survived with only few smaler glitches.
For now I'll keep the RB24/7 PC running with Win10 for 28 days until final decision. If no major problems occur during this period I'll keep Win10. If they occur I'll fall back to Win7 and keep it as long as I can.

I hate new operating systems if they don't work as they should or if they are user-hostile in operation. Surprisingly both wasn't the case with Win10. Usually I waited at least until the first service pack before I changed the os.

One good thing of Win10: The list of installed programs can searched in alphabetic blocks. After opening all apps list you can click on the letter A, so you can get the alphabet displayed. To go to Programms starting with e.g. W klick on W and all W programs are listed. 

Resuming the Win7, Win8 to Win10 transition:

Win7 to Win10: no need to rush anything, If you want to, no reasons why not (for now)
Win8 to Win10: From my point of view: Change ASAP, Vista was a desease but Win8 was a desease infected by a curse.

Ingo
Title: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: Kenny on August 12, 2015, 02:45:20 PM
My reason for upgrade from win 7are:
1 Win 7 will end of support soon.
2 It's free.
3 Multiple virtual desktop ( finally )
4 No need to perform clean install

It was one of the smoothness Windows upgrade.

Kenny
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: Javaradiofrance on August 13, 2015, 03:09:05 PM
The message I just sent to the support.

Hello,

I tried all the possibilities proposed in the forum but no solution allows me to run my RadarBox.
For information, before I had win 7, I chose not to keep it simple and make up 10 win.
Result, in Device Manager panel, the RadarBox drivers appears like this:
<< The drivers for this device are not installed. (Code 28)
There are no compatible drivers for this device.
To locate a driver for this device, click Update Driver. >>

Thanks for your help.
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: Runway 31 on August 13, 2015, 03:17:01 PM
You should have mentioned that you could not get it to work with Windows 10.

Have you tried to install the Windows 8 drivers and followed the advice in the sticky at the top of the page.  If the drivers are working for an upgrade I cannot see why they would not work for a full install but then again I know nothing about them.  Support may though.

Did you get an automated reply back with a ticket ID

Alan
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: Javaradiofrance on August 13, 2015, 07:14:15 PM
The support contacted me.
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: RodBearden on August 13, 2015, 10:26:46 PM
Well, I changed my mind and have just upgraded from 7 to 10.

I'm in the first 15 minutes, and everything seems to have gone smoothly - RadarBox worked with no hesitation - haven't even updated the drivers!

Fingers crossed that it will still work tomorrow morning when I turn the PC on again!
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: EK01 on August 14, 2015, 08:47:27 AM
Rod,

Shouldn't be any problems. I did the same thing without any need to update drivers. It worked straight away. Keeping fingers crossed !

Ian
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: Runway 31 on August 14, 2015, 09:21:43 AM
What's your verdict on W10?

Alan
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: EK01 on August 14, 2015, 09:33:29 AM
One thing I have noticed is that it both starts up and closes down a lot quicker than before. It also has 2 browsers Microsoft Explorer and Microsoft Edge meaning you can have one thing going on one browser and one on the other and quickly switch between the 2 without losing track of what you are doing (easy done for me).

Ian
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: Runway 31 on August 14, 2015, 11:10:11 AM
Cheers, Ian, I usually have around 8 tabs going at any time on IE so doesn't help me.

Alan
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: EK01 on August 14, 2015, 02:42:23 PM
Alan,

It also has hundreds of free apps which you can download which may be use to you .

Ian
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: RodBearden on August 14, 2015, 09:43:19 PM
After 24 hours all is still going OK. Had to tell it that I type in UK-ish rather than American, and that I live in the England and not Iceland.

Apart from ongoing support from Microsoft, and a bit of control over the taskbar on my twin-screen setup, I haven't spotted any advantages over Win 7 at all. The overall look is very flat and boring - ah well...
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: Runway 31 on August 15, 2015, 05:52:50 AM
Thanks Rod.

I think I will remain on Windows 7. I have experienced windows upgrades before so I think I shall remain here in Windows 7 until I am forced to move as to me it doesn't offer me anything I don't have.  Dinosaur forever!!

Alan
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: neroon79 on August 17, 2015, 05:18:08 PM
Alan,

I hope you wait many years before you catch the same fate as the dinosaurs did several million years ago...

By the way. I'm on Win10 for several days now and have to admid that  I'm not feeling any big difference between Win7 and Win10. Never thought that I would say this, but I'm indeed not missing Win7.

Ingo
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: Runway 31 on August 17, 2015, 06:00:15 PM
How is it with old peripherals that work ok in Win7

Alan
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: neroon79 on August 17, 2015, 06:59:54 PM
Please give some examples for old peripherals.
All my peripherals are working ok so far.

Unfortunately it seems, that I have to go back to win7 on my 24/7 server, as the stupid forced update functionality is freezing ANRB software each time it launches.

Ingo
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: Runway 31 on August 17, 2015, 07:21:10 PM
What do you mean by forced update Ingo. 

I was thinking about my scanner as my last one I had for less than two years then Windows 8 cam along and I couldn't get Windows 8 drivers for it and had to throw it out and buy a new one.  I also have a serial adaptor to connect my radio to the computer and it works ok in Win 7, maybe look and see if it both are W10 capable.
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: neroon79 on August 17, 2015, 07:37:55 PM
In Win 10 (home) you have no choice to discard updates or a particular update. Neither you can choose the installation time of an update 100% freely. In Germany they call it zwangsupdate. Under Win10 pro this shall be different but as I'm not owning Win10 pro I can't confirm that it's better there.
Until now I had three ANRB software freezes.  All three times the freeze time matched up with the time the update available message on the  Win10 message & information board was displayed. Checking the installed updates shows, that an update was installed at freezing time.

My scanner is 4 by 5 years old and is working with Win drivers under Win10.

Ingo
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: MIKE.UTD on August 18, 2015, 03:55:19 PM
Hi,
Downloaded win 10 and all working well, however how do you change the download settings ie for the logos , automatically go to download file rather than me selecting the relevant folder.
Googled it with no luck.
Thanks
Mike.
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: neroon79 on August 18, 2015, 03:59:28 PM
As far as I could figure out changing the download/save destination is not possible in ms edge. You have to use Internet Explorer, firefox or chrome to be able to select the destination folder.

Ingo
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: MIKE.UTD on August 18, 2015, 04:13:05 PM
Hi,
Thanks for the quick reply.
Mike.
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: shouriken on August 18, 2015, 05:20:00 PM
I did update to Win 10 Home my Acer Aspire E15 laptop from Win 8.1 Bing (64 bit) 5 days ago. It is used 24/7 for RadarBox, PlanePlotter, Mil-mode-s and fr24.

Everything is working ok (no need to install/reinstall any driver). I've setup updates to "Notify to schedule restart" and I didn't experience any ANRB freezes.

It seems that the shutdown/startup is slower than in Win 8.1, but it might be just a subjective impression...
Title: Re: Windows 7 to Windows 10 on ANRB PC?
Post by: neroon79 on August 21, 2015, 06:51:49 PM
It seems that I figured out what was causing the RB software freeces.

For some reason Win10 decided to activate the run in Win7 compatibility mode. That had caused a huge strain on system resources and led to the software freece. I deactivated the compatibility mode and re-started the software. No more freeces since then. Further the CPU load was reduced by about 60%.

Seems that the old version virtualisation is not capable to run 24/7.

Ibgo