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Title: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: AirNav Development on December 01, 2013, 09:34:22 PM
v62 is out.

All pending bugs corrected except:
- ACARS tab still not working;
- 3D issues
- Erroneous altitude reported on some ground aircraft
- Wrong photos being downloaded

Upgrade:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/ANRB/ANRBUpgradeto50062.exe

Full Install:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/ANRB/ANRB50062BetaSetup.exe
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: GreekSpy2001 on December 02, 2013, 10:18:41 AM
hi all

Been running v62 since Saturday am (gmt).  Have found a couple of issues as follows.

with v4 I had a few problems with the sw crashing when doing other things on the PC.  One being establishing a Remote Desktop Connection (RDC).  Starting this on my v4 installation would cause the app to crash.  So yesterday I tried it with v62.  Happy to say it worked and I could monitor from a remote PC.

However I immediately noticed that the alert pop ups were not being seen.  After further investigation it seems the screen resolution of RDC, the alert was off screen.  I had to move the pop up further into the middle of the host screen for it to be seen on the RDC screen.

Next when logging off the RDC connection the host PC is screen locked.  This had the affect of halting alerts until I went back to my host PC and logged back in.

Graham
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: CYYZGUY on December 02, 2013, 01:22:35 PM
Hi Airnav, I have noticed when I check off to display the NDB, it will work fine, however once radarbox is restarted I need to re-enable it every time.  Is this normal behavior?

regards,

Jason
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: AirNav Support on December 02, 2013, 01:36:08 PM
It should be saved down, this has been noted as a bug.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Northern Watch on December 02, 2013, 01:43:52 PM
Hi Airnav Support

Can you please confirm that the 5.00.62 beta upgrade you have posted is the same as Alan posted a few days ago.

Regards

keith
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: AirNav Support on December 02, 2013, 01:55:07 PM
Yes it is.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Judwin45 on December 02, 2013, 02:42:26 PM
I have not yet downloaded any of the Beta's.

I understand I need to uninstall v3.13 and then do the full download.

Do i need to disconnect my radarbox from the PC and then reconnect after the download?

Regards

Keith
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 02, 2013, 03:14:42 PM
Hi Keith,

You should only connect the USB cable after the software installation has finished to complete the process.  If you have 64 bit version of Windows you will also require to download and install the 64bit drivers before connecting the cable.  Uninstall the previous version(s) before installing the new one but remember first of all to save your mylog, photos, logos, silhouettes etc collections which you may have been building up over the course of time and replace the ones from the new installation with them.

Also remember to install to C:\Airnav and not to a program files location.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: shouriken on December 03, 2013, 04:21:33 PM
Using "End flights in Mylog after"=30 minutes and "Filter garbled Flight IDs and Squawks"=checked
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 03, 2013, 05:24:05 PM
Thanks Liviu

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: thedouth on December 04, 2013, 03:42:06 PM
Hi Alan
        I updated my database today and it appears the same size as yesterday . Since the new beta version the update size appears to have increased its size to 66305 kb . Has something happened


Ben
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 04, 2013, 04:08:15 PM
I have raised this with Airnav as the update doesnt seem to have been applied for the last couple of days.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: thedouth on December 04, 2013, 04:14:38 PM
Thanks for that Alan, glad it is not me . Keep us posted


Ben
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: shouriken on December 04, 2013, 06:17:08 PM
Tested the "Send email with custom server":
- entered the data for my yahoo.fr account

- entered 2 email addresses in the "Recipients (comma separated)" of the Reporter form
- clicked "Send now"
- received the emails in both accounts

- changed the "Recipients (comma separated)" field to 2 yahoo groups where I usually send the logs
- click Send, the status bar says "Message sent with success", but the message does not appear on the lists :(

PS. I've already reported this issue in the beta 053 topic.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 04, 2013, 06:46:07 PM
Getting emails from you on mode-s forum, 3 this afternoon so far

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: shouriken on December 04, 2013, 06:52:23 PM
Strange, I don't see them :(
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 04, 2013, 07:05:05 PM
Liviu

received at 18:19
Log Author: Liviu
Location: Bucharest
Country: Romania

Generated at 2013/12/04 18:04:49 UTC
Valid for 2013/12/04
674 Flights Logged

Received at 18:09
Log Author: Liviu
Location: Bucharest
Country: Romania

Generated at 2013/12/04 18:04:49 UTC
Valid for 2013/12/04
674 Flights Logged

Received at 16;28
Log Author: Liviu
Location: Bucharest
Country: Romania

Generated at 2013/12/04 00:00:01 UTC
Valid for 2013/12/04
671 Flights Logged

Also received the normal one at 00:00:01

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: LSZS on December 04, 2013, 10:59:20 PM
I'm sorry to say that the software still crashing on Remote desktop connection.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: CYYZGUY on December 05, 2013, 03:34:28 PM
I seem to be the only person who does not have any trouble with the upgrades....

Windows Vista, 64 Bit with 16 Gigs ram dedicated pc.  I guess that helps...
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 05, 2013, 03:50:27 PM
Very few have any problems and those that do usually have problems very specific to their installation.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 05, 2013, 04:12:26 PM
Dana,

For the developer, regarding the timeout problem you mention on 00.53 thread, can you confirm that you have the timeouts set very low something like 2 or 3 seconds and then another second to have it removed from the map.  Also because of this low setting some aircraft are flashing in and out on the grid as they timeout and then their signal is found again.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Dana on December 05, 2013, 04:41:59 PM
Hi Alan,
what you said is true about timeout.You  identified the problem correctly.
I have to say also that with the new version 5.00.62 I sow some duplicate flights ID.

Thank you ,

Dana
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 05, 2013, 04:53:53 PM
Thanks Dana, forwarded

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: LSZS on December 07, 2013, 11:07:13 AM
I have this error when I ask "mylog" option and I can't to have the list of flights in "flights for Selected Aircrft"
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 07, 2013, 12:02:33 PM
The malformed disk leads me to believe that you have a corruption either in mylog or your Navdata.  I would suggest you contact support direct for their assistance.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 11, 2013, 05:58:31 PM
Dana,

A question from the developer.  What is your screen refresh rate.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Dana on December 11, 2013, 07:05:52 PM
Hi Alan,
My screen refresh rate is always set to 1000ms (1 sec).
With the version 3.13 the sec to mark a flight as timeout was set at 2 sec. and sec to hide timeouts 4 sec.
Now with new beta versions if i use the settings above all the flights flash on and off. So I have to set more than 4 sec for mark a flight as timeout otherwise all flights flash on and off.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 11, 2013, 07:13:54 PM
Thanks Dana, will pass on this info.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: puddy on December 16, 2013, 05:37:28 PM
Quote from: alan
Very few have any problems and those that do usually have problems very specific to their installation.

Alan

As always Alan blames the customer setup/computer

I have a problem since upgrading I lose all flight info within 5 minutes its been like this since the weekend guess nobody else as the same problem so its specific to my installation again eh? Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 16, 2013, 06:08:35 PM
Puddy,

At a few hundred miles I cannot see what you have as your installation and any queries to you gives no results.  I have tried to help and no one else seems to have the same problems as you as you are the only one raising such an issue.

When a suggestions is made we dont hear anything for around a week and havent a clue in the meantime whether what has been suggested has worked.

Instead of upgrading have you tried the full install, this has worked for others having problems.

My apologies for trying to help, no one else has tried and its the last you will hear from me.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: shouriken on December 19, 2013, 08:05:14 PM
The "populate" issue reported/documented by neroon79 in http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=7931.msg99443#msg99443 is still present.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 19, 2013, 09:00:11 PM
There hasnt been a further beta release since that post Liviu.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: donburrows on December 21, 2013, 06:35:16 PM
how do I get windows 7 drivers?
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 21, 2013, 06:49:25 PM
I presume that it is 64 bit drivers you are looking for, if thats the case they are on the support page here http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/ANRB/drivers/ANRB64bitDrivers.zip

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: neroon79 on December 24, 2013, 11:02:51 AM
Some (minor) issues:

As in V4 alert sending stopps after a couple of days. I tested it with alert on D-ABY*. As soon as each airframe containing D-ABY (the B748's of DLH) was received one time, no further alerts were sent although an airframe was received again. After clearing the ALERTS Log list the alert function is working until each airframe is back in the list again. Maybe it's wanted to work that way, but I would appreciate if alerts were working regardless how many times an airframe was received.

About database updates: We have an encrypted db now and I can live whith it, but regarding to my slow net connection I would appreciate, if the db updates would be delivered in a compressed style. Downloading 67000kB with less than 1MBit is torture.

Is it possible to add a re-start button to the update submenu to avoid the procedure: manually shut down SW, waiting until ANRB process has really stopped and than re-starting SW by clicking on RB SW ICON. In my opinion it would be more comfortable to have this done by one simple click.

Regarding errors on remote Access:

I noted that ANRB SW is producing errors while clicking on menu buttons, if an established remote connection forces windows to switch the colour theme from Aero to Standard and back. If colour theme stays on Aero or (XOR) Standard no problems are showing up.

That's it for now!

Merry Christmas!

Regrads Ingo
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: tommyg on December 24, 2013, 11:55:35 AM
Is anyone else having trouble downloading the routes database? I can download the acft db with no problem, but if I try the routes db I get error ' invalid file received from server'. I only found this out when I couldn't to a mass download of all files in the db.

Merry christmas to all the long suffering users.

tommyg
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 24, 2013, 12:16:35 PM
Tommy, I downloaded the lot about an hour and a half ago to my two computers with no problems, routes included.

Just did it again to check as per attached shot.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: neroon79 on December 24, 2013, 12:34:20 PM
Confirming, download and install successful on my end.

Ingo
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: tommyg on December 24, 2013, 04:42:07 PM
Thanks Guys.

Have had to do a complete uninstall/install to cure the issue. Aaargh!!

tommyg
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 24, 2013, 05:57:59 PM
Looks like you had a corruption in your Navdata Tommy

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 24, 2013, 05:59:28 PM
Don,

As we havent heard from you further, have you got it working?

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: NigelR on December 28, 2013, 11:17:56 AM
I upgraded in early December and everything has been running smoothly until this morning. My Radarbox is working fine (plenty of aircraft in my log) but nothing on the display. If I try to modify the display I get a continuous cascade of the following error message ' List index out of bounds (359)' Can anyone help please and suggest what might have happened?

Probably just a coincidence but yesterday I signed up to be a feeder for Radarbox24. Everything seemed to be working fine yesterday after doing that.

Many thanks
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 28, 2013, 11:54:02 AM
What happens if you close down and restart Nigel.  I wouldnt think signing up to RB24 will have anything to do with it as you say a coincidence.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: NigelR on December 28, 2013, 12:01:41 PM
Hi Alan

just the same when I close down the program, also when I shut down my pc and reboot.

Many thanks

Nigel
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 28, 2013, 12:05:58 PM
Hi Nigel,

Its to techy for me.  I would suggest you contact support direct on [email protected]

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: NigelR on December 28, 2013, 12:54:35 PM
Ok Alan

Many thanks

Nigel
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: airdata on December 30, 2013, 06:29:11 PM
Good morning

My RB software stopped responding at midnight on 31 December with a message "Beta version -date limitation applies".  Same message appeared on restarting the software.  When I change the windows clock to an earlier date, the program starts but of course all the alerts have the incorrect date.  Is there a new Beta patch available?

Thanks
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 30, 2013, 06:54:02 PM
I am awaiting news on one was hoping it would be out today but nothing so far.  It will be posted when available.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: airdata on December 30, 2013, 06:56:12 PM
Further to the previous post.  The message that pops up is "Date Limitation Active".  It keeps creating new pop-ups with this message resulting in an ever increasing load in system resources.  Is it possible for this limitation to be removed whilst we await a new version?
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 30, 2013, 07:00:36 PM
I wouldnt think so

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: neroon79 on December 30, 2013, 07:01:56 PM
So, no update downloading and ANRB restarts until the new beta is out! Hopefully I won't have any inconvenient windows trouble after midnight... (fingers crossed)

EDIT: This time an "active" freezing of beta software while SW is running in normal parameters? Which "genius" brain came up with that "cool" behaviour?

Ingo
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: neroon79 on December 30, 2013, 07:09:46 PM
Interesting side-effect:

Depending on how many users are using the beta SW we will see a hour by hour shut down of RB24.com. I'll be off in 3h 51mins...

Ingo
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 30, 2013, 07:15:03 PM
It is designed to show users that they are using an out of date beta however one would have hoped that the replacement would be out before expiry.  It wouldnt usually effect users with their computers running, I believe it only stops when you close down RB and try and restart.  So if you want your RB 5.00.62 beta to keep on going, dont close it down.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: neroon79 on December 30, 2013, 07:19:45 PM
Reminding one user of the fact that he is using a beta software by pop-ups or making the SW inoperational at a specific time are in my humble opinion two different shoes. Maybe one shall consider to leave SW operational especially if one is needing the users to feed other vendors offered by the one.  Just a thought... ;-)

Ingo
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 30, 2013, 07:22:20 PM
Am awaiting a reply

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: tarbat on December 30, 2013, 07:24:45 PM
My recommendation to AirNav is to give up on the idea of an expiry date on the v63 beta.  In fact I've recommended to Andre that AirNav should release v63 as a full production release with no expiry date, so hopefully he'll take notice of this.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 30, 2013, 08:59:09 PM
I have had it confirmed that as long as RB is not closed down, the beta expiry will not have an effect.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: mikek on December 30, 2013, 09:16:33 PM
That's very useful when for some reason the pop up occurring caused radar box to crash...

Am trying to install a previous version. I'm normally pretty happy with Airnav, but you would have thought that they'd have leart from the recent past to maybe make a note in their diary that they need to put a new version out before the old one expires...
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 30, 2013, 09:28:31 PM
I am saying nothing!!

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: X on December 30, 2013, 09:54:52 PM
Alan

I did not close down and the warning came up at midnight, so I assume everyone will be locked out when the Beta hits midnight in each timezone.

UK has two hours to go from now at 0157 my time

Not good!

X
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: mikek on December 30, 2013, 10:05:30 PM
Yip, that checks from my experience. I thought maybe it was a one off crash for me, but if it's happening to everyone as they tick over midnight, hopefully that'll get a new version out quicker (that's my greedy side coming out, haha!)...

My efforts at installing 4.03 again were not worth bothering with. The v5 database wasn't working (I assume because of the encryption) and autopopulate didn't seem to work so the installed one was useless too, I just got a whole bunch of unknowns... I guess the world will slowly go quiet on the network and RB24 except for the areas with people who are still running v4...
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 30, 2013, 11:05:07 PM
Its being worked on as I type, Belatedly.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 30, 2013, 11:10:01 PM
Plenty working in the east, Muscat, Japan, Malaysia, Indonesia, Hong Kong, Taiwan, China, Australia etc so seems like not everyone affected.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: mikek on December 31, 2013, 12:13:55 AM
I guess there's probably quite a few people who don't follow the forum and are still on 4.03 or earlier. Many are probably blissfully unaware there is even a Beta out there at the moment and are pretty content with what Radarbox did straight out of the box.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 31, 2013, 12:20:59 AM
New version being tested at this time.  Should hopefully be available with 30 minutes or so.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: mikek on December 31, 2013, 12:27:56 AM
Awesome, thanks for the quick action Alan. Don't you think you're a bit early staying up this late! Shouldn't you be saving it for tomorrow!

Mike
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 31, 2013, 12:33:17 AM
I wont be on the box tomorrow night you can be sure of that Mike!!

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: X on December 31, 2013, 04:46:30 AM
Alan

Thanks for the V63, now all is running perfectly again!

Thanks also for all your work in 2013 the database is amazing these days, the current 212,000 is a far cry from the original 80,000 that had so many errors.

Enjoy Hogmanay and have a fantastic New Year

X

Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: airdata on December 31, 2013, 05:23:00 AM
Found the V 5.00.63 at http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/ANRB/ANRBUpgradeto50063.exe
in case anyone is looking for it....
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: neroon79 on December 31, 2013, 06:19:18 AM
Well, at least the beta expiration crash hasn't flushed the MyLog entries...

Hopefully we are not undergoing this procedure by end of the next month...

Ingo
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: FACTflights on December 31, 2013, 07:46:09 AM
Had the same thing here.  My system came to a complete stop at 23:59:59 on 30 December local time.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: vena on December 31, 2013, 08:32:29 AM
Hi guys,
I have a problem. After instalation ARB 5.00.63 (time is good) when I switch on Radar rings button i see white circle - see pic. When I Radar rings button off - see pic. Can you help , me please? Before V 5.00.63 I don't have problem :-(
Happy new year 2014...Vena
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 31, 2013, 09:25:50 AM
Just tried it Vena and no problems experienced with Radar rings switching on and off with no problems.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 31, 2013, 09:26:50 AM
The expiration does nothing to the software or its data contents Ingo and all is well after installing the new upgrade.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 31, 2013, 09:30:00 AM
Until Airnav posts offocially, here is v5.00.63 http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/ANRB/ANRBUpgradeto50063.exe

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: neroon79 on December 31, 2013, 09:39:29 AM
Alan, if you get an Windows Message with the content: ANRB.exe isn't working propably anymore and have to be closed you can't be 100% sure that this shut-down will be performed without any harm to the programm modules of the software you're going to shutdown by that hard way.

But it seems, that AN has programmed the beta that well, that ANRB SW has savely ceased all access to the db files bevore going to nirvana. So, you can take my coment as a so called compliment.

Ingo
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: neroon79 on December 31, 2013, 09:43:01 AM
About the ring problem. Not noticed on any of my systems (three different Windos 7 versions, 3D and no 3D option active). I would suggest a full system (operation system: Windows) re-start. Maybe that solves the problem.

Ingo
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 31, 2013, 09:56:35 AM
I only know Ingo through experience that all is OK and a further upgrade resolves the issue,

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Starburstdave on December 31, 2013, 10:09:36 AM
Hi
I too have the same problem with the radar rings. When the software first starts they display correctly but after about 30 seconds the whole centre is just a big white circle. Also I have noticed when I turn off the radar rings the little crosshair that marks my home location keeps changing colour from white to red,to blue and then back to white. The strangest thing happens when I take a screen shot using radarbox screenshot and preview it the saved image shows the radar rings but when I do a printscreen capture it shows the screen with the large white circle . Never had any issues prior to installing upgrade.

Dave
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: neroon79 on December 31, 2013, 10:16:12 AM
Hi Dave, what happens if you re-boot windows? And start ANRB again?

Ingo
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Starburstdave on December 31, 2013, 10:26:09 AM
Hi Ingo

I have just tried that and no different Im afraid. The radar rings appear as the software starts but as soon as I try to highlight any object on the screen the whole centre goes white again. When I turn off the rings the software runs normally apart from my home cross hair which continues to change colour.

Dave
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 31, 2013, 10:50:13 AM
Dave/Vena,  for my info to pass to the Developer, where do you have RB installed to on your computer?  Also can you advise which version of Windows you use?

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Starburstdave on December 31, 2013, 11:12:09 AM
Hi Alan

Radarbox is installed in C:\Radarbox\Airnavsystems\Airnavradarbox and it has run fine ever since it was installed in 2011. It is only since I upgraded this morning that the problems have started. I installed the upgrade this morning prior to starting the software as I had read about the expiry of the previous upgrade. I have upgraded as the upgrades have been released  but this is the first time I have had any problems

Dave
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 31, 2013, 11:15:29 AM
The Windows version Dave?  Its quite vexing as nothing has been done which should have any effect on it and only the two of you so far have had the issue.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: NigelR on December 31, 2013, 11:21:47 AM
Hi

I updated to 5.00.63 this morning and keep getting the large white circle but on adjusting the zoom in disappears. I'm using Windows 7 and have it installed directly onto the C: drive

Nigel

Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Starburstdave on December 31, 2013, 11:27:20 AM
Alan
I am running windows 7 home premium 64bit with 6gig ram

Dave
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: vena on December 31, 2013, 11:28:25 AM
Hi,
my RB is installed C:\Program Files\AirNav RadarBox\ANRB.exe on Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1 and problem I have only on version RB 5.00.63
Vena
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 31, 2013, 11:32:05 AM
Thanks Dave/Vena, I use the same Windows version as you Dave.  These ones that only affect a very few are very hard to replicate and fix.  I wonder if the full install would sort the problem.  It is here if you want to try it http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/ANRB/ANRB50063Setup.exe

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: EK01 on December 31, 2013, 11:33:31 AM
I too have the big white circle over the map on start up but it is only on screen for about 1 second then disappears and everything then works normally.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 31, 2013, 11:34:34 AM
Cheers Ian, it has all been passed to the Developer for his info.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: flygfantast on December 31, 2013, 11:35:54 AM
Upgraded to 5.00.063 and the "PZP" flight ID is back again. :(

Niklas
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: EK01 on December 31, 2013, 11:36:42 AM
Alan,

That was a quick reply !

Have a good New Year. One hour ahead over here so drinking time before you.

Ian
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 31, 2013, 11:39:57 AM
Just depends on when I look at the board.

Depends when you start though!!!

Have a good one Ian, all the best to you and Marie

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Starburstdave on December 31, 2013, 12:00:31 PM
Alan
Thanks for your help. I have downloaded the full install package and will  uninstall and then a full fresh install later today and I will let you know if this fixes the problem.

Dave
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: RodBearden on December 31, 2013, 12:27:45 PM
I've done the upgrade to .063, and the PZP flight ID has returned - in this case for 405858 G-KKEV.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: tarbat on December 31, 2013, 12:45:04 PM
Quote from: vena
I have a problem. After instalation ARB 5.00.63 (time is good) when I switch on Radar rings button i see white circle - see pic. When I Radar rings button off - see pic. Can you help , me please? Before V 5.00.63 I don't have problem :-(
Quote from: RodBearden
I've done the upgrade to .063, and the PZP flight ID has returned - in this case for 405858 G-KKEV.

Looks like this v63 isn't the same v63 I beta tested, and some previous bugs have been re-introduced :(
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 31, 2013, 12:55:36 PM
Will pass these to Airnav.  As Tarbat states we never saw these in Beta testing so dont know what has happened.  We have done nothing with the rings since Jason had the problem over inland waterways a couple of months ago and again it appears to be affecting a very few users.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: neroon79 on December 31, 2013, 12:59:19 PM
Confirming, that I've PZP flight id's with old box, but haven't PZP flight ids on the newer one yet.

If I'm programming and if I would use beta expiration dates, I would put away every released version (although they are in beta state), so I can fall back on them if next version isn't ready at time. In that case I would set expiration date to next month and re-release the last beta with new expiration date instead of doing what ever they may have done with the V5.00.63 relaese.

Ingo
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: CYYZGUY on December 31, 2013, 01:02:31 PM
I am at work now, but will try the upgrade when I get home and test the radar rings and let you know.

Looks like I have no choice if I want to continue using radarbox....

regards,

Jason
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Starburstdave on December 31, 2013, 03:00:15 PM
Alan
I have done a new install and still get the same problems with the radar rings but on closer examination it seems to be that when I click an aircraft in the list that is not within the rings range  the rings display normally but as soon as I highlight one inside the radar rings it turns into the big white circle. I hope this further info is of some use.

Dave
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Starburstdave on December 31, 2013, 03:25:36 PM
Alan

I have attached a screen shot of what is happening.

Dave
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: neroon79 on December 31, 2013, 03:36:49 PM
Have You tried to change the radar-ring colour from White to grey?
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 31, 2013, 03:56:01 PM
Yes Dave, can you try it with the standard colour instead of the customised white please and advise how it is.

Vena have you changed the rings colour away from the default?

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: granpa on December 31, 2013, 04:17:34 PM
This has happened to me now on 4 occasions  as well, my cure which seems to work every time so far is to go to map then trail lines on or off depending on how you have them set, i thought it might be a nvidia graphics card problem, i'll test some more and let you know.

Andy
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Starburstdave on December 31, 2013, 04:53:40 PM
Alan/Ingo
Reset map back to default Real Radar but still got the white circle .Just tried what granpa suggested with the trail lines toggle on /off and at the moment everything is ok. How strange?

Dave
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 31, 2013, 05:02:06 PM
Dave,

I presume from your reply that you didnt change the circle colour?

Alan
Title: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Kenny on December 31, 2013, 05:08:08 PM
Just relised this from email alert from AN, that my radar was absent for 24 hr.  And that was some time already.   Luckily that I still have remote control ability since I was 600 km away from the PC unless BKK will blackout for the whole week.

If possible, please release next beta before the current one expired.

Thank in advanced.
Kenny
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Starburstdave on December 31, 2013, 05:13:43 PM
Alan

Yes I changed the colour of the radar rings back to the default colur and still got the big white circle but I have now changed the map back to the "real radar " default scheme and things are running ok after I toggle the trail lines option in the map menu.

Dave
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: EK01 on December 31, 2013, 05:30:12 PM
Just had to do the same thing here. Trail lines were off and the white circle was there. Switched them on and the circle has disappeared !
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 31, 2013, 05:42:42 PM
Wierd, I can toggle my trail lines and only thing that happens it the trail lines disappear or come back.  What colour are your trail lines?.  Mine are at the default setting of purple.

I have passed all this on into the task system for the Developers info.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Starburstdave on December 31, 2013, 05:50:28 PM
Alan
My trail lines are the default colour of purple also but I choose not to display them so I just toggle the setting on then off again and this appears to do the trick but when I close down the software and restart I have to toggle the trail lines on and off again.

Dave
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 31, 2013, 06:11:26 PM
Cheers Dave,

All noted.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Starburstdave on December 31, 2013, 06:13:53 PM
Alan
Thanks again for taking the time to help.I think I will call it a day for today.
Happy new year to you

Dave
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: neroon79 on December 31, 2013, 06:15:35 PM
By setting the trial line length to one sec I was able to generate the white circle for a few seconds, but it has disapeared by itself.

Ingo
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: neroon79 on December 31, 2013, 07:07:39 PM
By the way: The populate button under MyLog is still working only one time after software start. After that: nothing.

Ingo
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 31, 2013, 07:26:19 PM
Thats correct as the fix for this is still to be progressed.  Now that we have daily Navdata updates available along with autopopulation we are now require to discuss whether it is still needed and if so how it should work

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: EK01 on December 31, 2013, 07:55:51 PM
Ingo,

Good tip regarding the white circle which is now starting to become a nuisance. I had the trail lines set at 10 seconds but have now reduced to 1 second so will wait and see what happens.

Have a good New Year.

Ian
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: CYYZGUY on December 31, 2013, 09:32:30 PM
Ok, I am home and did the upgrade...Interestingly enough, I have NO problem with the radar rings.

regards,

Jason
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on December 31, 2013, 10:04:15 PM
My trail lines are the default 300 seconds to remove and I dont have any problems but then again I have never seen a white circle either.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: neroon79 on December 31, 2013, 10:45:58 PM
I tried to force a re-appearence of the white-dish, but hadn't any succes with it. I performed a re-do of the procedure that has resulted in the appearence in the first time. But no success this time. Seems that my system configuration is one of the lucky ones that isn't affected.

Ingo
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: CYYZGUY on January 01, 2014, 12:59:09 PM
Alan do you know what the fixes were in the .63 version?  Or was it just a date extension?

regards,

Jason
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on January 01, 2014, 01:13:41 PM
Jason,

The NDB problem is resolved and flights flashing out and in with very low time outs is resolved

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: CYYZGUY on January 01, 2014, 01:25:32 PM
NDB problem meaning it would not save the setting if you had the NDB markers turned on?

If so, I can confirm that is working now....

Jason

Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on January 01, 2014, 02:03:38 PM
Yes thats it Jason

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Michel on January 02, 2014, 07:09:19 PM
If you want to navigate direct from RB to this forum, you can do this via Community-> Forum-> General Discussion. In v.63 after Community-> Forum, all you can see is a white field. You have to point your cursor in this field to see the content (General Discussion, Screen Shots, etc). In v.62 you could see the content in Community-> Forum directly.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Judwin45 on January 02, 2014, 07:24:52 PM
Hi

Just to say I am getting the 'white circle' which seems to come and go for no apparent reason.

Regards
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on January 02, 2014, 07:28:24 PM
Michel,

I have  Community/Foruim/General Discussions/ as before

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on January 02, 2014, 07:29:50 PM
The reason for the white circle that some see has been identified and a fix is being progressed.  The same with the PZP flight ID's that some experience.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Michel on January 02, 2014, 07:43:27 PM
Alan,

Ignore. Did a restart and no problems anymore with Community.

Michel.

Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Judwin45 on January 02, 2014, 09:44:32 PM
Hi Alan

Thank you for your patience with us, you are probably having to answer the same question time and again.

We do appreciate your help

Best Regards

Keith
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: NigelR on January 03, 2014, 09:46:00 AM
After using upgrade .063 for a few days now,  I increasingly getting multiple  instances of data elements not displaying for aircraft, for example often missing are the flight ID, airline and route or just one of these. Some have the Mode S symbol missing when I know they are mode s. Interestingly the log files are complete though. I've also noticed a progressive deterioration in the 'white circle' problem. It occasionally flashed on when first upgrading but it has now become an almost permanent feature if I attempt to use radar rings.

Any thoughts/suggestions gratefully received.

Nigel 
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on January 03, 2014, 10:23:14 AM
Nigel,

Do you still have it as the upgrade or did you do as suggested and do a complete install.  I have however been using the 5.00.63 upgrade for a couple of weeks with no problems and others dont appear to be have it either.

Also regarding the white circle the cause has been identified as detailed last night and a fix will be progressed.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Starburstdave on January 03, 2014, 12:59:43 PM
Nigel/Alan

I have been running the software now for 2 days and I have found that as long as I leave Trail Lines toggled to on  I have not had a problem with the  white circle. If I toggle them off then after a few minutes the white circle appears as soon as I highlight an aircraft within the radar rings at various zoom levels, so I just leave trail lines on which I can live with until a fix is available. I have trail lines set to remove after 10 seconds. Hope this of some use to you Nigel

Dave
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: neroon79 on January 03, 2014, 06:20:01 PM
Just for Info: Although I'm using 10mins long trail lines I dad several white circle flashes (<500ms) shortly after SW start-ups. During normal operation no white circles. As Alan stated earlier: The problem causing white circles is indentified and shall be recified within the next release.

Further I noticed an increased occurance of freeced aiframes staying there for hours. Toggling "process hardware flights" off and on removes them. Privously to .63 I hadn't this problem. Although other users have stated that they have had this problem too.

No further misbahviours indentified.

Ingo
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.62 Beta Upgrade
Post by: CYYZGUY on January 03, 2014, 10:48:59 PM
Interesting issue with the white circle.....Just happened to me for the first time.

I clicked on a ground return at the very top of my flight list and my entire radar range went white...

FDX150 Coming up as "Air Madagascar" logo.  Mode S = A36ED2 is what caused the white circle when clicking on that flight...

Also N917FE "Morningstar Air Express" for the life of me I cannot get a logo to display for that aircraft.  it is FOR SURE in my logos folder and I restart airnav every day....See below screenshot for N917FE logo..

Any ideas about that one?

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2893/11740572956_733d5f228a_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86721442@N07/11740572956/)
FDX150 Air Madagascar (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86721442@N07/11740572956/) by CYYZGUY (http://www.flickr.com/people/86721442@N07/), on Flickr