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AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com => AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com Discussion => Topic started by: AirNav Development on November 01, 2013, 09:20:28 AM
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v53 is out.
Corrected:
- Version 5.00.53 corrects the bug which prevented the RB software running after 30th October
Download link:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/ANRB/ANRBUpgradeto50053.exe
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Just to confirm, this v5.00.053 fixes the 30th November bug. Also, the MyLog TODAY & YESTERDAY reports should now be reporting new aircraft with an "*" correctly.
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Good morning all
I can't believe that I am the first to upgrade and comment!
All things seem to be fine with a manual restart after a database update which shows 208013 aircraft.
My log has aircraft being recorded and added to the listing of previous recordings. Yet to see anything new, so don't know if * will be seen.
Thanks to all for getting v52 sorted
Jim
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Just installed the new upgrade from 5.00.044 to 5.0053 and lost all the 3D features from 5.00.044 or was the 5.00.044 3D features a mistake.
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lambertw, did you have 3D in v4 - i.e. did you pay for 3D? If you did, then contact Airnav support to get 3D re-enabled.
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Answer no and no to that tarbat.
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In that case you unfortunately had a little taster of 3D in v44, which was cruelly snatched away from you ;)
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Reverted back to 5.00.044 and got 3D google earth view ect but with no aircraft models anymore.
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You can purchase the upgrade to 3D at http://www.airnavsystems.com/RadarBox/order.html
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Just looked at 3D view again and now have Models as well,wots going on ?.
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Is that with v5.00.053? If not, maybe start a new thread for this.
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No its with 5.00.044.
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Downloaded and installed without problem. Nice to see quick turn around.
Kenny
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Since chanching to .053 from .047 it's nearly impossible for me to get the Window spread over two monitors. Switching between maximized Window and Window results in errors, too. Chanching window size: Error message. But the software seems to stay operational. No error messages if menus were opened or settings were changed.
Going to Photo section of MyLog: starts loading, stopps after a few seconds and ANRB Software freezes with continously consuming 25% of CPU load. Let it there for a couple of minutes without coming back. Tried to shut-down Software. No reaction. Had to take the crowbar and kill the ANRB.exe in taskmanager.
Ingo
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Just loaded 5.00.053 and found a few issues:
- Myflights count does not match the number of planes on screen
- Planes that are in my antenna range are showing a O next to the flight and should be shown.
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Found a work around for the error problem:
I switched to 3D mode and back. After that the chanching of window size does not result in error messages anymore. Software wasn't shut-down and restarted after the last error message.
Navigation in MyLog/Grids is in indeed fluid now. Although I have almost 27000 airframes (16.000 in the past year) in MyLog db. Plus: Many of the B73*, A320 family airframes, the E1** and CRJs have up to 1000 movements in their flight history. So, regarding that item: Good Job!
Generating the Log seems to be a little slower then before. But not slower then in V4, so nothing to worry about.
Ingo
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Hi
I have just ran a database update and my total aircraft is now 206854 yet a post on here says his database has 208013 aircraft.
Is there a way of knowing what the total should be after we do an update
Cheers
nick
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Hi Nick,
I believe you must have run the Navdata update up top of the topics instead of doing the Navdata update through the tab on database explorer as you do on V5 now. If you do this you will get 208***
Alan
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- Myflights count does not match the number of planes on screen
By "on screen", do you mean on the map? If so, remember that some aircraft (non-ADS/B) don't plot on the map.
- Planes that are in my antenna range are showing a O next to the flight and should be shown
What do you mean by an "O"? On the map, or on the list of aircraft (which column)??
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Alan/Chris.
I have only got 206854 acft in my list after downloading v53. I notice when I go in the preferences box and check the number of acft there is a download tab. Does this have to be done manually or is the database update automatic? Only I noticed that I have to restart my RB every time I do the update which is frustrating as I use the autostart.
For info. The first time I tried updating using don't change manual records the update failed due SQL error. The second time I tried using update all records, this worked but only shows 207421 acft???
tommyg
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Hi
Have just tried again and still get 206854
What number should we be getting
Nick
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When generating today's or yesterday's entries in (MyLog) Reporter, RB is not responding and freezes for about 25 seconds.
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Tommy,
To updatethe Navdata in V5 you use the Database Update tab on database explorer and as you state to finish the process you require to close down and restart. My Navdata is showing 208,014 record after updating today.
Alan
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Nick,
If after updating closing down and restarting you are only showing 206,*** this would suggest you have more then one instance of RB on your computer and the wrong Navdata is being updated.
Before you updated to V5, where was RB installed. When you updated, did you run the update to that instance of RB.
I would suggest you use Windows search to look for all instances of Navdata.db3 on you computer and see if the one with todays date is in the V5 version and if not move it over to the correct Airnav\Radarbox\Data folder
Alan
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Alan.
Thanks, have tried again using 'do not update manually changed records' and again got SQL error 11. I am only trying to download actype, acft and routes. Will try again using update all and this failed due database disk image malformed.
Any ideas?
Further to the above, I tried again using 'update all' and 'aircraft' was only box checked. This time it worked and shows 208013 acft in database.
tommyg
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Happy to report no problems here with the .53 update
regards,
Jason
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I havent a clue tommy, to technical for me but I am asking some questions, llooks to me like your d/b is corrupt
Alan
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Alan.
An interesting aside to my aircraft database issues, is that during my trials and tribulations a Nippon Cargo flew over London with routing RJAA-PANC-KORD. After I did the aircraft database update reload the routing on the map changed to RJAA-PANC-EDFH. And I only downloaded the aircraft database. Dont know what is going on here.
tommyg
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Tommyg, presumably you have "Autopopulate route data" ticked in Preferences, so routes will get updated. In fact, my preferred approach is to start with completely empty Aircraft and Routes tables, and just let Autopopulate update the databases. None of this messing around downloading databases, etc. - I just let Radarbox Autopopulate.
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Tarbat, is there an easy way to empty the database? Can't imagine you delete each record manually.
Michel.
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where I can find the number of aircraft in the database??
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Tarbat.
Yes, autopopulate is ticked in my preferences.
With the new database populate in V5, is there going to be someway that we can all check what the current database load is?
tommyg
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Cosmefulanito,
You can find how many aircraft you have in the database by looking up File/Database Explorer/Tables/Aircraft and when it opens up you see ****** rows loaded in **ms. That tells you how many.
Alan
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With the new database populate in V5, is there going to be someway that we can all check what the current database load is?
My understand is that there is a new database available every day in the v5 Database Update facility. So, if you really want to, you can download a new one every day with the latest updates. For myself, I never bother with that, and just let Autopopulate work in the background.
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My Log seems to be working fine now when clicking on something that doesn't have a photo.
Reporter also seems to be indicating correctly for new aircraft. I do see the point made earlier though. It takes a couple of seconds for RB to generate a report, during which it doesn't respond. This is for me with a very small daily log compared to somewhere busy like Europe. (I typically only have around 100 aircraft a day...). Not a problem for me, but I guess if it was much bigger, it could take a lot longer.
Mike
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Hi Alan
I have a virtual store that it keeps loading into
Once I delete the virtual store copies I am ok but
Have to do it each time
Nick
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Hi Alan
Have just tried deleting my virtual store copies and
Alas still have the same figure
How can I get rid of the virtual store copies that keep appearing
Nick
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Nick, the best way of avoiding all the virtual store problems is to NOT install in the default location. Install in somewhere like C:\Airnav\Radarbox
Maybe the FAQ needs renaming to cover Vista/W7/W8 - http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=1570.0
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Hi
I have just tried deleting the other folders and leaving the virtual store ones (the opposite of what I had to do before) and this time it has loaded the correct number of aircraft
Very strange bit so long as it works great
Thanks to all for your help and thanks to all who have worked so hard doing the upgrade
Nick
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Don't know if it's reported before; but when I email the daily log, only half of the log is mailed. I don't receive the complete log. Tried is several times, but no luck.
Michel.
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Don't know if it's reported before; but when I email the daily log, only half of the log is mailed. I don't receive the complete log. Tried is several times, but no luck.
Noted, on task system as FS#273. Only seems to affect daily logs sent using the Airnav server rather than a user-defined server.
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I think it must be size related. Mylog to mode-s has only 136 aircraft and it is complete.
Alan
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I think it must be size related. Mylog to mode-s has only 136 aircraft and it is complete.
Could be size related indeed. Yesterdays log contains over 400 entries, and the email ends with registrations starting SE-. Todays log contains 126 at the moment, and I receive the complete log when mailing.
Michel.
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Just checked mailing again. When more than 390 flights are logged RB won't mail the complete log, but cuts it off.
Michel.
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This has been logged as a bug - task FS#273.
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Sending via Custom Mail in combination with SSL is still not working.
After switching between Server and Custom and and a click on Apply the preferences box looks like the attached picture.
Ingo
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Strange. We got it working in beta, see my settings attached. Note that because BT Internet use YAHOO for email, I'm able to send via. the Yahoo SMTP server.
A couple of questions:
1. What O/S - I'm guessing from your sig. Win7 64-bit.
2. Can you check in your Radarbox main folder, do you see these DLLs - libeay32.dll, libssl32.dll, ssleay32.dll
Other than that, check your password, etc. I also notice that the button text on your preference box is corrupted - maybe your ANRB installation is corrupted?
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Although running in Windows 8 successfully I only find 201151 aircraft after using database update which is less than when I used previous (now withdrawn) link to database updater.
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Jim,
I presume you closed down and restarted after complting the update process. If so I would suggest that you have more than one instance of RB on your computer and the update will have went to the wrong one.
Alan
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Alan
I have restarted RB and on opening it states 'optimizing database' then 'applying database update' and this is within 5.00.53. Also the program hangs for a while showing 3D on toolbar (for which I am not subscribed) and then reverts to my normal 2D mode after a couple of minutes.
Jim
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Have you used Windows search to look for how many instances of Navdata.db3 you have on your computer, if it was going to the correct Navdata you would have a count of over 208,000. 3D was available on 5.00.44.
Alan
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Alan
I have RB2009 installed as well so I've ensured I've routed the installation to the correct path now, installed all the upgredes to the correct path also and tried updating db again but still do not get required amount of aircraft in database. It does show 2509 types though. Do I need to uninstall RB2009 and maybe do a complete new installation from my original cd?
Cheers
Jim
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Hi Tarbat,
DLLs are existing, OS indeed WIN7 64bit. Box software crashed during shutdown, so it was partially crashed already. After restart, text back to normal. But still no succes with mail.
Ingo
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Jim,
Consider uninstalling 2009 and installing V5.00.44 full and then updating to the latest
Alan
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Hi Tarbat, I was able to figure out what is casing the problem:
Finally I tried sending vie mail gogglemail account. I tried to sent the message to two (three) comma separated Mail addresse at one time. And I get mail delivery errors by my googlemail account. As soon as I reduced to one mail address it workled without delivery failures. Afte that I tried a single address with aol and yahoo settings. Both were working. As soon as I tried to two mail addresses custom mail isn't working with aol or yahoo. Googlemail states delivery fsaillures again.
So, seems there is a problem with the handling if the log shall be send to two mail addresses at the same time!
EDIT: Maybe someone else could try this, to confirm that it's not only me having this problem
Ingo
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Cool, reports sent by custom mail aren't truncated!
Ingo
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Same counts for the alerts. As soon as the alerts shall be sent to two mail addresses the delivery via custom mail fails. If one mail recipient is entered Alerts are working with custom mail.
Ingo
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Alan
Many,many thanks for your good advice. Now up and running with 208020 in database.
Cheers
Jim
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On the new version My Log is slow and unresponsive.
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Is not true, in this new version the report in unresponsive not the Mylog!!!!
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I'm aware of the reason for the report being slow, and that has been raised with the AirNav Developer. The MyLog should be very responsive now given the performance changes made for v5.00.053.
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Just to confirm, and in answer to PMs, these are the additional bugs that Airnav now have on their task list:
273 Daily Log Report Truncated
274 Email log to multiple recipients fails on custom server
Busy over the last few days working with Airnav testing fixes for the remaining bugs. Almost there..................
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Hi All,
just downloaded the new version after using 4.03 for many years. I am verry impressed of the the result. It looks it is a great advancement in comparison of 4.03.
Verry good progress so it looks. Much faster and more accurate.
Thanks to the Beta-testers and hope you will keep the verry good work up! Thank you verry much for doing this.
Best Regards, John
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Guys.
An interesting scenario occurred over the weekend. My log was showing 265 aircraft being picked up which I have never had before, even in summer on a good day I have only had just under 200 in the log. I noticed on my map that aircraft from 4 hours previous were still showing but not moving. I restarted the RB and lo and behold my log dropped to 116 aircraft which is my average especially on a wet and windy November day and a lot of aircraft disappeared from the map view. Has anyone else had this with the new beta?
tommyg
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Problem with Timeout of MyFlight persist here .
If I set less than 5 sec to mark a flight as timeout all airplanes on the map and list are continuously changing their status from timeout to cruise from cruise to timeout.
Also,I noticed on my map that aircraft from 1 or 2 hours previous were still showing time to time as timeout but not moving.
Dana
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I am getting the same problem as Dana above.
Aircraft that have timed out are still showing on the map much later.
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If I set less than 5 sec to mark a flight as timeout all airplanes on the map and list are continuously changing their status from timeout to cruise from cruise to timeout.
What settings do you have for "Timeout for MyFlights" and "Screen Refresh Rate"?
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Tommy/Dana,
Frozen time out flights issue reported on system as FS276
Alan
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4A35AF - 2706 - C27J Romanian Air Force
PT, PT2: Photo not available
LK, LK2: http://www.airnavsystems.com/cgi-bin/anlv_sv/photo/photonotavailable.jpg
Just received 2 photos:
CH: 20131105074441
PTTN: 2706-L8D7XU7XNO
PTTN2: 2706-66IG4ICPLH
It looks like they are:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Brazil---Air/Cessna-C-98-Caravan/2246938/L/
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Slovakia---Air/Mikoyan-Gurevich-MiG-21MA/2053446/L
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Thanks Liviu,
Will have it looked into, logged as FS 277.
Alan
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Hi,
Yesterday I upgraded RB from ver 4.03 to 5.00.053 but now there is no flights in vertical tracking view. Is this due to the beta version of RB or is it something wrong?
It looks like everything else works as it should at the moment.
Thanks for help
Regards
Kacek
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Hi Tarbat,
My setting are:
Sec to make a flight as timeout 5 . If i set less all flight looks like timeout.
Sec to remove timeout flights are 2.
And about screen refresh rate are 1000ms.
Thank you.
dana
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Kacek,
Reported to the tracking system FS278
Alan
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Hi All,
I am trying to edit the routedatabase with SQL. SQL give the error message "file is encrypted or is not a database".
What's going wrong. In version 4.03 editing the NavData.db3 was Always possible.....
Any help will more then welcome.
Thank you in advance!
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It seems you missed the announcement of the 5.00 Beta:
New features:
Sending emails by custom server
Encrypt navdata.db3 file
All comms to/from server encrypted
Users who don't share flight data or are not subscribed to the network will not received flight (photo/route information from server
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=7914.0
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Thank you for your fast reaction!
Does this mean that I can not edit my NavData any longer by using SQL? If that is the case I want to go back to 4.03 if that is necessary.
I was Always sharing my data, networkmember and premium feeder so I really do not see what the problem is.
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You can't edit navdata.db3 with a third party tool. Only with the "Database explorer" included in ANRB.exe.
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Until version 4.03 I allways edited mij NavData verry comfotable with the help of SQL without any problem. So I am verry surprised that it is in the 5.* versions not possible any more. Is there a way back to 4.03?
Thank you again!
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John,
You can use your original disk or you can still download v4.03 from the Airnav website. Please note that the previous Navdata updates are no longer available. Please see PM
Alan
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Alan/Tarbat.
For info, my timeout/refresh is the default that was in my original startup version. I haven't changed anything as I use my RB for what I can see in realtime.
tommyg
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The "truncated log" sent by email (using AirNav server) seems to be fixed since last night.
However, I send mails to 2 yahoo groups, and only 1 received it.
I'll report back tomorrow.
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All by site.
There is an other point I will discuss:
my Database was before installing the new version as the Routedatabase concerns, my own creation. After installation of the 5.* my database is not open and encrypted for editing. It should be unacceptable that RB my own database close for adding c.q. editting? Presume that there are more users like me on this?
Any help will be welcome if I do not understand all this or making mistakes.
Best Regards!
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Tomorrow I Will take Some juridisch advice about this.
From my point of view an unacceptable situation.
I Will try to direct the RB- board of direction directly.
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John,
There should have been no surprises as this has been well documented on the forum over a number of weeks. When carrying out the upgrade did you save the data you wanted to keep safe. Any upgrade over writes files and the information and advice is available on the forum for all users to read. All users should always backup all data that is important to them and it is their sole responsibility to do so.
Before upgrading you had ample opportunity to save your unencrypted database to use as you please and advice was given on the forum by Tarbat to do so.
Alan
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Hi Alan,
ofcourse, I made a backup of the NavData.db3 before switching to the new version. But my routedatabase was NOT overwritten by the new version; it was encrypted by the new version only and that is my objection in this case. My problem is that I can not edit my database(s) with the help of SQL any more and I do not understand why RB made this impossible.
My route database was all the past years that I am a RB user arranged and maintained, concentrate on my own situation, by my self. So I feel free to see this database as my personal property.
Please do not take this personal and thank you for your reaction until sofar.
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Hi
I want to save My Log to a memory stick
Which file is it I need to save
Nick
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Nick,
mylog.db3
Alan
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My route database was all the past years that I am a RB user arranged and maintained, concentrate on my own situation, by my self. So I feel free to see this database as my personal property.
John, all the routes you've added to your database continue to be available within Radarbox. If you want to add new ones, delete old ones, etc. then use the Database Explorer. I don't think the use of external SQL tools has ever been supported by AirNav.
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Hi Quick question on how the navdata updates now work on v5.
Obviously I can now download the updates manually from the new DB Explorer tab. But there is also the autoupdate feature. So two things, a, how does the autoupdate process work and b, how does this fit with the manual process, I assume its "either/or"?
just want to get it clear in my head so I can decide which process works for me. With V4 I just download the update when it was available. I don't update the db myself.
Thanks
Grahan
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I don't think the use of external SQL tools has ever been supported by AirNav.
Hi Tarbat,
Agree but that is an other case I think.
SQL is a verry handy tool to add / edit your databases and I still do not see what is wrong about that. When you have more than one flight to add you can make an Excel file (CSV) and import with SQL the total file into the route database. Now in the new situation I have all the new flights to add one by one.......
Other exemple: when you want to delete all EZY flightid's because of change to new timetable you can do this by exporting the routedatabase to Excel, edit the file, and import the file to NavData again. Now, in the new situation, you have to delete the flightid's one by one.....
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Graham,
Where the autoupdate on an aircraft is set to Y if you pick up that aircraft with you box and the local Navdata is different to the server data, the local Navdata will sync with the server contents. If however you have the aircraft set to N as you have amended some part of the data on your local database and also have unticked Auto Update Manually Changed Records in Preferences/Radarbox, when the aircraft is picked up the sync with the server will not be carried out.
The database update works in a similar manner but instead of a single aircraft that your box has picked up, deals with the entire database or not again dependent on what your N and Do Not Update Manually Changed records preferences are set too
Hope that helps.
Alan
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I'm not sure if the "N" under autoupdate in the d/b functions correctly. I've had one route marked not to update, but just found out it was updated automatically.
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Had you set the other requirements for this as well Michel?
Alan
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thanks Alan. I think I will use autoupdate and see how it goes. Maybe will update the whole db manually monthly.
Graham
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Alan,
I think I missed something. Other requirements?
Michel.
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Michel,
If it is a single route as well as ticking N, you also have to go to Preferences/Radarbox and untick Autopopulate Route Data.
Alan
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I see. Autopopulate route data is ticked in preferences, so in that case there shouldn't be a problem.
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Noticed this morning:
1. Select an aircraft (eg. YR-ATF) with 2 pictures in "MyFlights", shows both pictures
2. Select an aircraft (YR-SCD) with only 1 picture (in the database and in the photo folder), shows its photo and the second photo of the previous aircraft.
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Thanks Liviu,
Added to your previous photo issue, I believe it is server related and not the software.
Alan
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I've upgraded to the new 5.00.053 version but cannot apply the update, I go into database explorer and have around 80173 aircraft. I click start update and it goes through the process giving a total of 208082 aircraft, great. It now says restart application, I don't know how to do this other than closing with the top right red cross then restarting the radarbox via the desktop shortcut. When I do this it opens and all works fine thus the upgrade has worked. I check the File then Database Explorer and hey presto as before update 80173 again. What am I doing wrong? every one else has got 208000+ . I sent a request to the help dept and was asked am I running in admin? I don't know what Running in admin is! I've not changed any other settings on this windows 7 computer, all is as it was before the upgrade. HELP!
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Never use the red cross. Always close down using file/exit to save everything including your log and all will be well.
Alan
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Alan.
Not sure if autopopulate is working on my box. I checked on starting my computer today (it has been on most days since the last update) and showed 208014. I have all the autopopulate boxes checked. I then did a manual update and the figure went to 208180.
I have contacted support as when I tried to uncheck then recheck the boxes I rcvd an error message which when I displayed showed my operating system as VISTA when my laptop on which RB is loaded is WIN7 and always has been.
tommyg
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Tommy,
The database when loaded with the update today only has 208049 records so I am at a loss how you were showing 208180 records in the aircraft table, there would seem to be a glitch somewhere. Run the update again and see what you get.
Alan
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Alan.
Have just updated again, but this time unchecking all boxes except aircraft, and the new figure is 208082, so I haven't a clue as to what is going on as I dont maintain my own database and just use what you guys (doing a grand job by the way) provide. I only use one picture and not two as well.
tommyg
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It must have had a wee hiccup while processing Tommy
Alan
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I think it must have been, but that still raises the issue of how we know how many aircraft should be in the database. Will you guys or Airnav give us a monthly update as a check?
tommyg
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I've just retried to redo the update all goes well until time to restart the application, i'm definitely doing something wrong. done as suggested used file and close then restarted radarbox and old totals still there so don't know what else to try. spent most of today on this already! If I did a roll back with control panel would I get my old airnav 2009 with 2010 upgrade back? then carry on manual update and populating as I've done for 3 years! It must be simpler than that!
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Hi Tommy, when the database updates started appearing regularly, I or someone else would post the number of rows downloaded in xxxms, this is now done routinely on the D/B update threads, whether that'll happen with automatic updates, I would have my doubts.
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Hi Jon.
That is my main concern, how do we the users know what is correct? You can see from Alan's and my conversation above that there were three different figures mentioned. Plus I am not so sure my autopopulate works even though everything else is fine. After a few hiccups, I think I am nearly there.
I know we all moan about Airnav with some reason, but in my job I am finding that there is a big lack of Quality Assurance in computer software, suffice to say I understand now why the B787 has had many issues.
tommyg
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I am having problems updating the database . I only have the number from the last online update . This goes into c:\Program Files(x86)\Airnav Systems\Airnav RadarBox\data
the new update goes into c:\Users\owner\AppData\Local\Virtual store\Airnav Systems\Airnav Radarbox\data
How do i get the updates to go to the original file . I have tried deleting the new updates and starting again but they still go into the new file . I cannot even find the virtual store on the system
I am not tooo technically minded so any remedies in easy to understand language would be much appreciated
Ben
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Andy,
How many instances of Radarbox do you have on your computer with you mentioning 2009 with 2010 upgrade with v5.00.53 you must have at least 2 versions on the computer. When you upgraded did you direct it to the correct path or did you just follow the default installation. I would suggest that the update is going to the wrong version. Use windows search to look for all instances of Navdata.db3 and noet where they are. The newest one would appear to ne in the wrong version so move it to the correct one
If would however suggest saving your mylog, photos, etc that you want to keep and delete everything. Then download and install the full V5.00.44 I think it is from the first upgrade post and install it to c:\ Airnav Systems\Radarboxand then upgrade to the latest version and everything should be OK.
Alan
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Thedouth see the answer I have just given to Andy Smith.
Alan
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How do you move it to the correct one , Sorry for being thick
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Open up the windows with the 2 Navdata.db3 files, identify the correct one and drag it across to the correct folder and replace the one thatt is there.
Alan
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Tommy,
I ran the updater and it shows the same as you 208,082, I thought I had updated this morning but it would appear that I hadnt. I think it is possible that I ran it but hadnt closed down and restarted.
Sorry for giving you a scare and causing confusion,
Regarding Autoupdate, this process doesnt add aircraft to your database it will only sync the details of an aircraft that you already have in your local database with the contents of the server if there are any differences when you pick it up with your receiver.
Alan
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i tried correct folder to correct folder but it just moved everything to the virtual store folder
ben
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Hi Ben,
Seeing as you are not to technically minded could I suggest that you uninstall and then reinstall to c:\Airnav\
Alan
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Hi Alan, I have done as you said and it is still doing the same . It creates 3 navdata.db files , one normal one pending and one with the date . I have moved them over to the old navdata.db file and now i have 239059 aircraft entries, I am at a loss now
Ben
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Hi Ben,
Please find attached a shot of my data folder. The file you should be looking for is the top one Navdata.db3 without a date attached and with the date modified of 07/11/2013.
The ones with the date are the ones downloaded from the server and the last 10 are downloaded are stored there. The processing is done in the temp and when processed become the db.3 file that is used.
Alan
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Hi Alan,
Have done that, still appear to have more aircraft than i should, but it cant be a bad thing. Will all future updates go to the correct destination now
Ben
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Ben,
No unfortunately the will go to the same place as before and you shouldnt have more aircraft so because of your layout there must be some corruption.
My advice to unistall everything and re-install to C:\Airnav still stands but if it is working for you and you are happy thats the main thing.
Alam
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Alan
I have uninstalled several times and no change . From what i have read on the forum I think I do not need to update the database as the ayto populate should do it for me . Am I correct . I am only interested in registrations and not the routes etc
Ben
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Ben,
Autopopulate doesnt add new aircraft it only syncs ones that you see with the server database if there are differences. If you see a new aircraft and it is in the database but not on your Navdata, the populate function will work and add the info into the Navdata.
Alan
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Hello all, I've spent another day trying to get the airnav working properly but to no avail! I have tried all sorts of combinations and ended up with a complete reinstall from the forum link (v4 version I think) and then the new upgrade giving me 5.00.053 version. It works fine, all features OK but need to do preferences with layout etc. I've followed the instructions and suggestions within this forum but still cannot get this update to work.(I still have only 80170 aircraft) I understand its a pathing issue but don't seem to be able to move them, it all seems a lot more complicated on Windows 7 than my old XP. I have two airnavs listed when I click Start-All Programs-Airnav Systems and they are Airnav Radarbox and underneath Airnav Radarbox 2010 (ones v4 and the other the .053 upgrade I think but don't really know!) can anyone help with the correct procedure for this update please? I'm running Windows 7. A windows search for NavData.db3 brings up 5 candidates, they are two 19.7mb files (one in c:\users the other c:\program files(x86), one 68.6mb file with the airnav logo on it, one 18.5mb file (dated 2009 in c:\program files(x86) and one just called New Navdata.db3-20131013 no modified date or anything else on the last file. sorry for the long cry for help but I'm running out of options.
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Andy,
Before you re-installed it would have been better to uninstall the previous versions as unfortunately you wil probalbhy have the two versions and the updated all mixed up with each other and as you installed to the virtual store that makes matters even more problamatic.
If you click on the link to start RB, to find out which version you are using if you look on the top line on the left of the screen it gives you the version number.
If you went through the update procedure today the Navdata.db3 file should be in the Radarbox\Data folder and if you look at the attached screenshot the file should be as per the top line of the shot.
Alan
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How do you install to the virtual store and more important how do you find it in a search .Alaso how do you make sure you dont install into it
Ben
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As far as I have found (Windows Vista only, but I think Windows 7 and 8 are the same), if you select the install path as C:\Program Files\{program name} then it will automatically setup each user a folder in the virtual store where data is kept. The program itself is still running from the main folder, just data is kept for each individual user in the virtual store.
This is pretty annoying, so to avoid having data in the virtual store, select the install path or location to be 'C:\{program name}' and you will not have that problem. All data will be saved directly into the folder you installed it into, making it much easier to find and work with.
If you want to find the data in the virtual store (the names vary slightly between versions of windows I think, this is all from memory) go into C:\Users\{Your user name}\Application Data\{Airnav Radarbox}. Hopefully it will be there or along a similar path.
Hope that helps some...
Mike
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Correct Mike. To avoid problems with Windows Virtual Store you should avoid the program files location and install to some thing like c:\Airnav when asked by the program installer as has been detailed earlier.
unfortunately I cannot help with locating where Airnav will be in the virtual store as i didnt intall to there but what is stated sounds like it and if you use windows search you should find it assuming you have set to show hidden files in control panel.
Alan
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Thanks guys , have got rid of the virtual store problem, still the navdata must be corrupt as have still got too many aircraft. Dont think there is much i can do there though . Least it is working fine
Ben
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Hello all, I have a fully updated and working Airnav, THANK YOU ALL. My totals are 3085 type and 239132 aircraft, don't know why these totals are different to other members but at least all seems well. just a couple of queries, on my previous version I had my home location on the map zoomed in that appeared every time I opened the Airnav. now it seems I have to zoom in each time from the full world map, how do I set it up as before? The other question relates to the password and registration at the opening up stage of the Airnav, it auto filled the boxes for me with ********* etc, surely it should ask for these with a new reinstall as I could be anyone? Thanks again to all who helped, a great job.
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I have exactly the same problems as Andy although the map is easy to sort . I have same totals as him. We must both have the same computer skills
Ben
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Andy, Regarding your log in details, these are lodged in the registry of your computer and are not removed on unistalling so are available for future installs on that computer.
Alan
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Cosmetics.
First image: open "MyLog" first time after database update. I do not know what "265" means.
Second image: open "MyLog" after closing the previous one.
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Thanks for pointing that out Liviu. I checked after downloading an update and it was OK on my one. I would suggest that it was one off glitch that saw the Aircraft text not appearing but I will keep an eye on it.
Alan
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not sure if this has been reported before but when I go into MyLog reporter and click to generate a Today's report the software goes into a not responding mode . Eventually it returns but after a good minute.
Graham
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Graham,
This has been advised earlier and the Developer has been advised.
Alan
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I don't seem to be able to play recorded files," XXXXXX is not a valid floating point" is the message, anyone else had this or is it just me ?
thanks,
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I've noticed another misbehavior (don't know if it's already known):
After starting ANRB SW and executing the populate function of MyLog previously unknown airframes are populated to the navdata db, wich is the correct behavior.
If I try to use the populate function again it doesn't work. Furthermore no unknown airframe that was added to server db and is received again is populated to the navdatabase anymore. After a restart the population of previously unknown airframes during reception is working again until the populate function of Mylog is used again.
I didn't notice this with 3D enabled version, but with 3D disabled version.
Regards Ingo
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oliver14,
The defect has been rectified and will be on the next release.
Alan
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I've noticed the same behavior neroon79 reported earlier.
After restarting ANRB and running "Populate" I've found 2 unknown populated navdata with "CH" field and no photo info.
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Many thanks for your reply Alan.
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Liviu,
That is the miscode added by Orkney yesterday and there is no photo allocated to it as Airliners.net has no photos of A6-MBA hence no photo showing. Similar with the EVA Air, it was only delivered late on Tuesday and no one has a aphoto of it yet in Airliners. When both these have a photo they will be added.
Alan
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Yes, I know they don't have photos on A.net.
Maybe I didn't understand the usage of CH field. I thought it was related to the PTTN and PTTN2 (date/time when the thumbnails were downloaded). If no thumbnail, why timestamp?
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I see now, I will query the developer and find out. Possibly due to the server being checked for a photo?.
Alan
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Alan, just one more question 'bout the DB ; I'm in the process of altering the AUTOUPDATE field of every record I have my own picture for to N, adding the name of that picturefile in the PTTN column and adding a timestamp in CH, I unticked the Auto-Populate box in preferences.
now do I have to delete the data in the PT, LK, PT2 and LK2 aswell to avoid further replacement of my own pics, ore can I leave this date in these fields ?
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Will advise ASAP
Alan
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thanks
edit ;
Alan, could you please suggest to development to at least allow editing a cel by double-clicking on it ; that would already make it a lot easier to work in the DB : having to work as it is now, by selecting a cel and hit the EDIT button, and going back to the cel all over again, is very time consuming.
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Instead of clicking the Edit button, you can press function key F2
Rod
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thanks for the tip Rod; already a improvement
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vonsmalhausen,
The answer I received is - If they are the wrong photos delete them, the photos as well as the links.
Alan
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thanks for the answer Alan
already thought this, will proceed by deleting those fields
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Liviu,
Can you assist regarding the wrong photo being downloaded ie, 2706 which shows the wrong photo download eve nalthough photo not available is in the LK and LK2 fields. A change has been made which should stop the wrong photo download.
Can you advise another aircraft you see frequently which shows the wrong photo to allow me to try the process out on.
Alan
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Tell me what to do (about 2706).
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I just want to know wht photos come up for it next time you pick it up. There is a block now in place to stop any changes being made to the photo download and it should show photo not available.
Are there any others that you regularly pick up and show an incorrect photo?
Alan
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I've deleted the local photos of 2706.
PT/PT2: "Photo not available"
LK/LK2: "http://www.airnavsystems.com/cgi-bin/anlv_sv/photo/photonotavailable.jpg"
CH, PTTN, PTTN2: blank
I'll wait for it to fly again.
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Thanks Liviu,
I have also ensured the correct photos for Hungarian C-17's 01, 02 and 03 to check if you pick them up please.
Alan
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Anybody else note wrong photos displayed please.
Alan
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Anybody else note wrong photos displayed please.
Alan
Hi Alan,
When I see detail of HS-GBE which has only 1 photo in db. The previous aircraft that I view show in second photo box instead of 'photo not available'.
Kenny
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Thanks Kenny, problem identified and is corrected for the next release.
Alan
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How do I get my own thumbnails to display in MyLog?
I used to be able to copy a thumbnail into the Photo directory with the name of the files as the Reg. Ver5 is not detecting those pictures
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Chris,
Put the name of the photo in the PTTN and PTTN2 fields and timestamp the CH field. The next release of the software will check the photo folder first and use the photos from there automatically I believe. You will also need to change the autoupdate to N to stop the routine checking for and downloading newer photos from the internet which it does around every 6 months. You will also require to take the option of Do not update manually changed Records in the databse update sync options.
Alan
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Thanks Alan
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Firstly I would like to say, having read through the last 11 pages, thank you to Tarbat and Runway 31 and anybody else who has been helping answer questions from the masses in this forum, you have the patience of a saint! :)
Now my question! I have just noticed when I look in the Airnav403 files that I have three navdata.db3 files. Each one is the updates that I downloaded from within Airnav: 15/11, 26/10 and 20/10. I assume that it is safe to delete the two former files as the 15/11 is the current one? And in future I can delete the old file once I have downloaded a updated one?
kind regards clive.
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Hi Clive,
The folder normally holds up to the last 10 downloaded db.3 files but there is no problem with deleting all but the current one.
Alan
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Cheers Alan, down in LOS but nothing new to report!
regards clive.
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Did not have the chance to see the RoAF 2706 or SAC's 01, 02 or 03, but:
3B9BE7 - 101/FA10/France Navy - show photos of the Romanian's Air Force Puma SOCAT 101:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Romania---Air/IAR-IAR-330L-SOCAT-Puma/2273795/L/
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Romania---Air/IAR-IAR-330L-SOCAT-Puma/2273795/L/
CH: 20131116150804, PTTN: 101-9FL1MADPQB, PTTN2: 101-4X60KF16UP
LK and LK2 are correct:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/France---Navy/Dassault-Falcon-10MER/2267697/L/
http://www.airliners.net/photo/France---Navy/Dassault-Falcon-10MER/2214721/L/
but the downloaded photos are not.
3B9BAA - 87/E121/France Navy - show photos of the Romanian's Air Force Puma 87:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Romania---Air/IAR-IAR-330M-Puma/2104861/L/
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Romania---Air/IAR-IAR-330L-Puma/2122441/L/
(There is an error in the description of the second photo. The helicopter is a IAR-330M, not IAR-330L).
In this case LK and LK2 are not correct.
You might want to use:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/France---Navy/Embraer-EMB-121AN-Xingu/1700457/L/
http://www.airliners.net/photo/France---Navy/Embraer-EMB-121AN-Xingu/1138972/L/
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Thanks Liviu, I have altered those ones as well.
Alan
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I've "seen" today 2706 (C27J Romanian Air Force).
Although the database (after updating it today) PT, LK, PT2 and LK2 specified "No photo", somehow ANRB.exe overwritten these fields with the old links and downloaded the wrong photos.
3B9BE7 (101 France Navy):
PT, LK, PT2, LK2 are correct in the database, wrong photos downloaded as reported before.
PS. CH, PTTN and PTTN2 (and the local photos) have been cleared every time I've noticed the wrong photos were displayed.
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Thanks Liviu, I will advise Airnav
Alan
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Liviu,
Believed to be now corrected, I would appreciate if you could check the aircraft mentioned previously to check their photos again please.
Alan
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I'll run a database update tomorrow morning and hope 2706 will fly again tomorrow.
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Thanks Liviu, I have checked that the photo not available links are against both LK and LK2
Alan
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Database updated this morning at ~0515Z.
2706 did not fly today.
But 477FF2 (C17 02 from SAC) did.
LK and LK2 are correct, but the downloaded photos are not.
CH: 20131122104509
PTTN: 02-R59UDTRIVD
PTTN2: 02-7Z7MTXKQPN
The corresponding downloaded photos are:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA---Coast/Gulfstream-Aerospace-C-37A/2323125/L/
http://www.airliners.net/photo/France---Air/Dassault-Mirage-IIIA/2339155/L (which is LK2 for AE4E05)
While at AR=02, I noticed that the links for AE4E05 (GLF5 02 US Coast Guard) are not correct:
LK: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Yakovlev-Yak-52-%28Bacau%29/2268600/L/
LK2: http://www.airliners.net/photo/France---Air/Dassault-Mirage-IIIA/2339155/L
You might want to use:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA---Coast/Gulfstream-Aerospace-C-37A/2323125/L/
http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA---Coast/Gulfstream-Aerospace-C-37A/2277475/L/
PS. I've also checked the database for:
AR=01
477FF1 (C17 01 from SAC):
LK: ok
LK2: ok
AE10C1 (GLF5 01 US Coast Guard):
LK: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Hungary---Air/Boeing-C-17A-Globemaster/2219818/L/ (incorrect; photo of 477FF1)
LK2: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Lithuania---Air/Aero-L-39C-Albatros/2294683/L (incorrect)
Candidates:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA---Coast/Gulfstream-Aerospace-C-37A/2196489/L/
http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA---Coast/Gulfstream-Aerospace-C-37A/2189915/L/
503FD0 (L410 01 Lithuanian Air Force) cn is 820738 and type L-410UVP-T (sources scramble and ondutchwings):
LK: http://www.airliners.net/photo/France---Air/Dassault-Mirage-2000/2284910/L/ (incorrect)
LK2: http://www.airliners.net/photo/China---Air/Chengdu-J-10AY/2310121/L (incorrect)
Candidates:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Lithuania---Air/Let-L-410UVP-T-Turbolet/2117498/L/
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Lithuania---Air/Let-L-410UVP-T-Turbolet/1987653/L/
6831F1 (C295 01 Kazakhstan - Air Force)
LK: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Hungary---Air/Boeing-C-17A-Globemaster/2240450/L/ (incorrect; photo of 477FF1)
LK2: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Leduc-022/2318801/L (incorrect)
Candidates:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Kazakhstan---Air/CASA-C-295M/2209454/L/
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Kazakhstan---Air/CASA-C-295M/2189209/L/
AR=03
477FF3 (C17 03 from SAC)
LK, LK2 - blank
Candidates:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Hungary---Air/Boeing-C-17A-Globemaster/2248863/L/
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Hungary---Air/Boeing-C-17A-Globemaster/2122237/L/
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Thanks for your assistance Liviu. All updated, I dont want to do to many until I know the fix works.
I amended the Hungarian 03 this morning @ 1050 and they are still in place so good so far. 01 and 02 done as well and they are also still OK but still to wait and see what is downloaded to the user. Can you confirm that the 01,02 and 03 photos have been deleted from your folder please
Alan
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As soon as I see wrong photos, I delete them in my photo folder and clear the details in the database (CH, PTTN, PTTN2).
I'll run another database update tomorrow morning.
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Thanks Liviu,
Alan
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No SAC 01, 02 or 03 today, but ROAF 2706.
The fields LK, PT, LK2 and PT2 mention "Photo not available" and the links to AirNav's photonoavailable.jpg, but downloaded again the same incorrect photos:
CH: 20131125101754
PTTN: 2706-L8D7XU7XNO
PTTN2: 2706-66IG4ICPLH
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Brazil---Air/Cessna-C-98-Caravan/2246938/L/
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Slovakia---Air/Mikoyan-Gurevich-MiG-21MA/2053446/L
The timestamps in the photo folder: 2013/11/25 12:17 (local time)
Only one AR=2706 in the database, the one we are talking about here.
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Many thanks Liviu I will advise Airnav.
Alan
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SAC's C17 02 on screen yesterday evening: same as reported in reply #172
Helicopter 343 (hex 3DD806): same as reported in http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=7919.30 reply #43. The photos:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Israel---Air/McDonnell-Douglas-A-4N/2329791/L/
http://www.airliners.net/photo/East-Germany--/Mikoyan-Gurevich-MiG-23ML/2276305/L/
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Thanks Liviu
Airnav have been advised and am awaiting word from them.
Alan
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I had the unfortunate idea to stop/start anrb.exe today.
When restarting, I got the message "beta version cannot run after 30 November".
It looks like a new beta is necessary :)
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Hi
Started up Radarbox this morning and I have got the message about the software not being able to run after 30th November due to it being a beta version. I thought this had been fixed after last month. Hope there's a fix soon.
Dave
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Hi,
I have the same problem, I had to go back to 5.00.047 :-(
Vena
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I've changed the date to 29 November, ANRB was happy with that, reverted back to the real date.
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I have the same 30th November 2013 problem how do we get it right ?
Tony
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Got the same problem here. Unfortunately the date change fix won't work with me. I've other programmes running that are date sensitive.
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Same here. Can't use the date reset workaround.:-(
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A new beta version will be posted shortly.
Alan
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Hopefully earlier than Sunday morning 8:00 UTC...
Ingo
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Ingo,
See PM
Alan
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A big thank you to support. Now running version 5.00.062. Problem solved.
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A new beta version will be posted shortly.
Alan
Hopefully it will release soon. In the mean time Bangkok Thailand will be offline.
Kenny
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Kenny see PM
Alan
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Kenny see PM
Alan
Thanks Alan,
Now it is back on the air.
Kenny
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I will be out for the afternoon and until Dev is available to post a thread to the forum with the new beta, you can download it here http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/ANRB/ANRBUpgradeto50062.exe
Alan
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Cheers Alan
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Timeout problem persist also with the new version 5.00.062.
Why nobody pay attention on this problem. ?
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Dana, the timeout problem isn't he only problem that hasn't been fixed: the population problem is still there, too.
Ingo
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Which population problem do you mean Ingo? We have not noted any issues. Every aircraft on my screen has populated. Can you provide a screen shot of all the non populations.
Alan
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The populate function of MyLog does only work one time after SW start. After it is exedcuted once, no further population takes place although populate is started from the MyLog options menu. I haven't tested, if the second popualtion problem: no auto-population after "forced" population is still existing too.
Ingo
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Please remember that this is a beta and we are working throught the few remaining issues.
After the populate function is operated for that first time are there other aircraft that require to be updated in your log and if so is the info available to populate them?
Alan
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Maybe a moderator creates a new topic for the 5.00.62 beta and move the related messages there.
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Unfortunately still wont play previously recorded files.
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How it worked in Version 4 and before:
1. Unknown Airframe in MyLog.
2. Start populate.
3. Unknown Airframe populates to NavDataBase.
4. Start populate second time.
5. Details of previously unknown airframe are added to MyLog entry.
Since V5 the chain stops afte item 3. as item 4. can't be launched without a re-start of Software.
The (auto) population problem type 2:
1. items 1 through 3 of list above were executed.
2. new unknown airframe was received and data was provided in db update thread.
3. Data is added to server db by you (Alan) or Andrew.
4. airframe is received again (several times), but not auto-populated to lokal navdatabase.
5. restart of software
6. on next reception airframe is autopopulated to lokal database.
Without use of "forced" populattion:
items 1 through 3 are identical.
4. airframe is autopopulated to lokal database during the first time of reception after airframe details were added to server database.
Ingo
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Ingo,
I will ask how the populate function works now. I would imagine that with the autopopulate function it now works differently. I have no first hand knowledge myself as I dont use the populate function prefering to download the new Navdata each day so have very few blanks.
Alan
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Oliver the playback is in the to do list.
Regarding 00.62 please note it has still to be released by Airnav, I only released it to ensure affected users were still able to use their box without reverting to V4. When Airnav release it, hopefully today, there will be a seperate thread for it and its issues.
Alan
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I have just tried to open my Airnav and I am getting a message telling me that this beta version was only available until Nov 30th and it shuts down?? Help please!
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Hi Clive,
Its up the thread a bit but here you go http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/ANRB/ANRBUpgradeto50062.exe
Alan
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Good morning Alan
I had the same problem as reported by Clive, but upgraded to v62 and then did a database update.
Everything went smoothly and I thought the start-up was as quicker, as in v4. Much better!
Just for information I now have 210293 aircraft in the database.
Jim
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Good on you Jim
Alan
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Thanks very much Alan, appreciate it.
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Hi Jim
"Just for information I now have 210293 aircraft in the database."
I've just updated my DB from AN and have only got 209397 a/c, have you input 900 into your DB yourself, or am I missing some from the DB download?
Jon
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John,
The number you have is correct. Jim, had some problems initially and some how he has some extra numbers but time to leave thing well alone when its working!!
Alan
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I note that under Map/Aviation Signs/NDB
I have checked this box but it will not stay checked for the next time I start the ANRB, it did stay checked previous to V5, the Airport & VOR boxes are OK as they were before V5
Would this need sorting out ?
Tony
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Tony,
Noted and reported on Task System as FS 425
Alan
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Many thanks Alun! Down here in Wurzel land, we drop our Haitches!
Jon
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I have also noticed this...
I have to re-check the NDB every time.
regards,
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Locking this topic, any beta issues please post in the 62 beta thread.