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Title: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: AirNav Development on October 21, 2013, 10:57:48 PM
We are pleased to note most users are happy to with the first beta release of AirNav RadarBox 5 software. The application is still in beta mode which means we are intensively getting user feedback, testing and implementing corrections to all reported problems.

For this reason we are releasing V5.00.47 of the software which addresses three important issues that have been reported:
1. No network connection
2. Incorrect flight ID's displayed
3. Extended flight sessions, user configurable on Preferences/General tab, default 15 minutes (Still being tested)

Upgrade (need to have 5.00.44  installed):
http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/ANRB/ANRBUpgradeto50047.exe

A full install version will follow tomorrow
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta
Post by: CYYZGUY on October 21, 2013, 11:05:43 PM
Hello Airnav

I only see 1 setup file?

Jason
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta
Post by: tarbat on October 21, 2013, 11:14:04 PM
The 1 setup file is the one to use to upgrade from v5.00.044 to this new version (v5.00.047).
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: CYYZGUY on October 21, 2013, 11:24:23 PM
Applied patch with no issues....

Well done.

regards,
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: RodBearden on October 22, 2013, 12:44:38 AM
It's great to see RadarBox patches being implemented.

Let's hope that bug fixes will be applied faster in future than in the past!

Rod
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: cosmefulanito on October 22, 2013, 01:49:33 AM
Still no network connenction

Data sharing to RB24 it OK
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: vaca05 on October 22, 2013, 04:38:27 AM
Downloaded the new version 5.00.47. Lost the 3d view feature using google earth.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Dana on October 22, 2013, 07:25:48 AM
Downloaded the new version 5.00.47,problem persists here with time out flights also with signal. Airplanes appear and disappear and flight list varies from 1 airplane to 80 in just a few sec. The time out settings does not correspond to reality....
And,if I may make a suggestion : will be very useful to be able to arrange MyFlight list according to altitude of airplanes . In this way will be more easy to identify new airplanes  entered in the list. Now we have to search between dozens of airplanes which one just took off.....
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: tarbat on October 22, 2013, 07:29:56 AM
Dana, you can sort by any column in MyFlights - just click on the column heading "Altitude" and the heading will turn bold.  What timeout settings and Screen Refresh Rate do you have setup in Preferences?  If you turn the Network off, is it any better?
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: tarbat on October 22, 2013, 07:30:25 AM
vaca05, have you paid for 3D, did you have 3D in v4?
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: tarbat on October 22, 2013, 07:31:14 AM
Rod, we're testing as fast as we can - long late nights given over to testing freely!
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: tarbat on October 22, 2013, 07:33:02 AM
cosmefulanito, do you have a network subscription - check MENU - TOOLS - NETWORK ACCOUNT INFORMATION.  If so, check you have "Get Flights From Radarbox Network" ticked at the bottom of the Network tab.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Dana on October 22, 2013, 08:08:45 AM
Thank you Tarbat, altitude in MyFlights list are solved now. Still the problem with the signal. Airplanes are not stable on the map and list also they appear and disappear ...Seconds to mark a flight as timeout are set to 10 and seconds to hide timeout flights are set to 5. but in reality  they hide faster and appear as timeout also in less than then 10 sec. Also before upgrade i had a range of aprox .200nm all around. Now i can't see airplanes further than 140 nm.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: tarbat on October 22, 2013, 08:13:17 AM
Dana, I don't believe anything has been changed in v5 that should affect your reception range.  Suggest you check antenna connections, etc.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: AirNav Support on October 22, 2013, 08:15:34 AM
If you have lost 3D contact us please with your RB login id and we will reset your ID.

cosmefulanito,

Can you confirm your RB login id to us please so we can check your network details.

Dana,

There have been no firmware changes so there should be no change of your range, as per most upgrades you should be able to get a better view of your range after a week as weather and traffic patterns can change and affect your range.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Dana on October 22, 2013, 08:48:33 AM
I am sure is not about weather or connections or antenna because if i return to V4.03 my range increases and timeout settings work correct...
anyway, I will wait for further changes and i will upgrade later.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: shouriken on October 22, 2013, 09:36:01 AM
In "My Log/Grids", if I select an aircraft which does not have a photo in the database and in the local Photo folder, the CPU goes to 100% for several seconds and the interface is not responsive during that time (noticed since 044, but forgot to post).

Added a local photo, edited the database's fields CH and PTTN. It took a long time and 100% CPU until the photo was shown. Note that a second empty thumbnail was also created.

Added a second local photo, added it in the PTTN2 field. The same as before, but now there are 2 photos shown.

Modified the Autoupdate field from "Y" to "N". Nothing changed.

If the PTTN fields are empty, no photo is shown.

PS. My CPU is not very powerful, it's an old Celeron 540, 1.86GHz. The memory is not a problem because only 1GB is used out of 2GB.
PS2. The new option "End flights in my log" with the default of 15min works like a charm for me.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: tarbat on October 22, 2013, 10:10:01 AM
Quote from: shouriken
PS2. The new option "End flights in my log" with the default of 15min works like a charm for me.

That's good news - thanks.  Note that for some users, 15 minutes may be too short a time.  For example, testing v5.00.047 with the "End Flights in MyLog after" set to 15 minutes results in this in MyLogs:

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2841/10419229664_b117e49114_o_d.jpg)

LZ-WOW was initially picked up briefly at 10:33am for 30 seconds with FlightID NVD121, then went out of reception range for 16 minutes, so when it was next picked up, Radarbox correctly decided this required a new flight record in MyLog.  For my situation, 30 minutes is probably more appropriate.

Each user will need to balance two factors - reception conditions and turn-around time of flights at airports.  We hope that the default of 15 minutes will work for most users.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: cosmefulanito on October 22, 2013, 10:29:28 AM
cosmefulanito,

Can you confirm your RB login id to us please so we can check your network details.


I have installed in 2 diferent computers v4 and V5, the V4 works OK but V5 have that message.
-- Removed Login id. (AirNav Support)
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: AirNav Support on October 22, 2013, 10:59:30 AM
cosmefulanito,

We have pmed you, you have a mistake in your login id which was causing the issue.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: cosmefulanito on October 22, 2013, 11:25:54 AM
cosmefulanito,

We have pmed you, you have a mistake in your login id which was causing the issue.

Now works OK
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: vonsmalhausen on October 22, 2013, 01:55:52 PM
ok, did the upgrade from V4.03 to 5.44 and then 5.47 ; so far, so good
network is back, and no more wrong flight ID's
on start-up, it seems that the reception is a bit less then with v4, but after some time it gets normal
so overall, i'm happy with the new update
the automatic satellite and OpenStreetMap layer is a fantastic addition, thanks for that, just one small remark/question ; the menu bar shows buttons for both satellite and OpenStreetMap, but there is no button to hide this layer again, you have to go to the Map menu dropdown list, and select it there.
would it be possible to ad a "hide layer" button next to the 2 others to quickly shift between these views ?
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on October 22, 2013, 02:06:53 PM
vonsmalhausen,

Glad you are now back on and glad you like what you see

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: RodBearden on October 22, 2013, 02:10:20 PM
Alan - vonsmalhausen was talking about the toolbar buttons, and suggesting an Off button next to them - I'd like to add the suggestion that clicking either of the buttons a second time would turn them off.

Rod
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on October 22, 2013, 02:13:49 PM
Noted that Rod and changed my reply before coming back and seeing your reply.

Thanks, will make the suggestion.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: vonsmalhausen on October 22, 2013, 02:19:43 PM
help ! I just copied my "old" v4 data folder in to the updated v5 ( to get all my logos, pictures etc. ) and now I get this message on start-up with a blue screen where the map is supposed to be :
C:\AirnavRadarbox\Data\L000B.dat not found
I deleted the "new" data folder to be shure there would be no conflicts,...... not a smart option it seems.

edit; everything up and running again, did a clear install again, but this time I was more cautious wit what to delete and copy.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on October 22, 2013, 04:27:12 PM
Liviu,

As you have noted the pttn and pttn2 fields need to be filled with the aircraft registration and the timestamp completed if you want to add your own photos.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: LSZS on October 22, 2013, 05:33:29 PM
Bad news for me.
Airnav software still crashes when I use the computer which is installed in remote (Remote desktop of Windows, logme in, and teamviewer)
And I like to know why the database is encrypt. Another bad news for me...
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: shouriken on October 22, 2013, 05:50:43 PM
Quote from: Runway 31
As you have noted the pttn and pttn2 fields need to be filled with the aircraft registration and the timestamp completed if you want to add your own photos.
Yes, I understood and have done that. My problem is the CPU high usage and slow response time.

I've downloaded the database update this evening and I've checked it for 3DD806 (the EC 135 reg 343).
Now it has the fields CH, PTTN and PTTN2 empty, PT and PT2 "Photo not available", LK and LK2 "http://www.airnavsystems.com/cgi-bin/anlv_sv/photo/photonotavailable.jpg".
If I select 3DD806 in "My log/Grids", the CPU goes to 100% and the interface is not responsive for about 20 seconds.

I've entered "http://www.airnavsystems.com/cgi-bin/anlv_sv/photo/photonotavailable.jpg" in the browser and I've got a 404 not found error.

LE. Forgot to say that I've deleted the previously downloaded photo.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: tarbat on October 22, 2013, 05:58:33 PM
Quote from: shouriken
My problem is the CPU high usage and slow response time.

If I select 3DD806 in "My log/Grids", the CPU goes to 100% and the interface is not responsive for about 20 seconds.
I think a couple of you have reported this problem, so I'll log it as an issue to be investigated into the tracking system - FS#257.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: shouriken on October 22, 2013, 06:15:24 PM
Quote from: tarbat
I think a couple of you have reported this problem
I've reported this problem earlier today. See "Reply #16".
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: vonsmalhausen on October 22, 2013, 08:47:16 PM

As you have noted the pttn and pttn2 fields need to be filled with the aircraft registration and the timestamp completed if you want to add your own photos.

Alan

not really understanding this ; do you mean we can no longer simply ad a picture of a plane using the reg to let it show up ?
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: tarbat on October 22, 2013, 09:16:06 PM
Correct, I've asked for this to be changed.  I did highlight this potential problem back in March - see point 2 at http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=7522.msg89996#msg89996
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Dana on October 23, 2013, 07:11:17 AM
I discovered where is the reason of my problem with time out flights. It is the wrong FL. I sow airplane flying at FL400 and instantly in 2 sec the flight level changed to FL120.
Also this morning same flight in same position showing same time different FL (screen shot attached ) .
This is why my flights appear and disappear and why I thought that i have a problem with my signal. In fact the reason is FL which appear as wrong. This problem persist no matter what QNH I set, if it local or standard 1013.
Does anyone have a solution to this ?
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: tarbat on October 23, 2013, 07:31:10 AM
Dana, I presume you have applied a filter on FLs?  Anyway, possibly connected to the problem already reported about wrong FL's after timeout - see http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=7915.msg96933#msg96933

Already logged as a issue to be investigated (FS#244).
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on October 23, 2013, 07:36:44 AM
Liviu.

Regarding http://www.airnavsystems.com/cgi-bin/anlv_sv/photo/photonotavailable.jpg and the 404 error message, everyone gets that as access to the server using that method is now blocked.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on October 23, 2013, 07:41:18 AM
vomsmalhausen,

You can still add photos as before but the registration must be added to the pttn/pttn2 fields and the time stamp completed as detailed.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: vonsmalhausen on October 23, 2013, 08:08:31 AM
vomsmalhausen,

You can still add photos as before but the registration must be added to the pttn/pttn2 fields and the time stamp completed as detailed.

Alan

sorry, but I really don't understand this
first, where/how do I get that "time stamp" ?
what are those figures after the registration showing now in the filename of the pics, and how do I generate one so I can ad it to a personal picture ?
WHY a simple and perfect working method has been changed in a painstaking process ( and in my eyes completely useless, only invented to make one having to spend hours of work on the DB ) ?
for the moment I unticked the "download aircraft photo" box, I hope this stops the system from changing my personal pics in , most of the time, useless auto-downloaded ones

overall i'm happy with v 5.47, but this issue really pisses me off.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: shouriken on October 23, 2013, 08:14:23 AM
Took these screenshots this morning.

PS. Regarding the photonotavailable.jpg. I didn't find such image in the photo folder.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: vonsmalhausen on October 23, 2013, 08:15:24 AM
ok, unticking the picture download is not an option, as pictures, aldo in the folder but without that extention, don't show up.
really, WHO invented this atrocity ??!!!!
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on October 23, 2013, 08:21:01 AM
Vonsmalhausen,

The reasons for the change I dont know but I dont think it has been done to make life harder for users and as Tarbat states we are making representations to have changes made.

Regarding the figures after the registration they are not required when  you add your own photos.

Regarding the timestamp you add it yourself when adding the pttn details and its the time of the change in the format 20131023101800  yyyymmddhhmmss  year/month/day/hour/minute/seconds

When that is done your photo is used and nothing is downloaded as the routine looks to the photo folder first and uses a photo from there if available and only goes to the internet if there is none.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Dana on October 23, 2013, 08:25:08 AM
Other observation, path vector  moves with a delay beside the airplane/square label....
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on October 23, 2013, 08:27:27 AM
Liviu,

Understand now.  It is P002.bmp and should be in the data folder. 

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: shouriken on October 23, 2013, 08:28:52 AM
And 3DD806 (343, EC135) is back with downloaded images and the database stating "No photo available".
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: shouriken on October 23, 2013, 08:32:12 AM
Quote from: Runway 31
It is P002.bmp and should be in the data folder.
P001.bmp and P002.bmp are there.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: tarbat on October 23, 2013, 08:35:09 AM
Quote from: vonsmalhausen
WHY a simple and perfect working method has been changed in a painstaking process ( and in my eyes completely useless, only invented to make one having to spend hours of work on the DB ) ?

To deal with the situation where several ModeS hex codes may share the same aircraft registration.  Although why they didn't decide to just name the photos files with the ModeS hex code is beyond me!!  Anyway, that's why it's changed, but as I've already said, I've put in a request to at least allow the use of the old file name format if PTTN or PTTN2 is blank.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on October 23, 2013, 08:36:53 AM
Thanks Liviu,

The problem with 01 has been recorded as a bug since you gave details previously, FS249

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: shouriken on October 23, 2013, 08:38:22 AM
Where ca we find the bug list?
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on October 23, 2013, 08:43:17 AM
Liviu,

Have you removed the thumbnails for the wrong 343 from your photo folder?  Also delete the details in pttn, pttn2 and timestamp fields and if you are using your own photo add these as previously detailed.

Regarding the upto date bug list I will see if Airnav can provide it.

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: tarbat on October 23, 2013, 08:46:41 AM
Quote from: shouriken
Where ca we find the bug list?
It's on Airnav's internal tracking system.  Here's the current list we're working on.  Please be patient, we're working through the list as quickly as possible, but it's important we fully understand each issue and ensure that any bug fixes fully address the issue and don't cause other problems.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: shouriken on October 23, 2013, 08:47:56 AM
Quote from: Runway 31
Have you removed the thumbnails for the wrong 343 from your photo folder?
Yes, I did. The new images were downloaded today CH:20131023064342
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: vonsmalhausen on October 23, 2013, 08:48:58 AM
thanks for the answers Alan and Tarbat
Tarbat, I hope they implement asap you're request for the file name
until then, i'll just have to live with a whole bunch of "wrong" pictures ( because now I get several pics showing old livery's and wrong planes ) as I don't have neither the time, nor the envy to go make all these changes in the DB.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: tarbat on October 23, 2013, 08:51:40 AM
vonsmalhausen, if it's that important to you, maybe revert to the production version - v4.13 - and wait for the next beta.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: vonsmalhausen on October 23, 2013, 08:55:56 AM
thanks Tarbat, thought about that to, but i'll just be patient for a while and look what the next beta will bring ; apart from the pictures issue, i'm happy with 5.47
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on October 23, 2013, 09:09:44 AM
vonsmalhausen with 207,000 aircraft in the database there is a lot of scope for livery changes etc.  If there are any wrong aircraft being displayed or any with updated liveries we should be showing let me know and I will update them

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: pwfu on October 23, 2013, 09:33:51 AM
'Show only fleet watch flights on map' not working on both of my XP installs. Tried upgrade from 4.03, and fresh install as well. Upgrade to latest version this morning and still no joy
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: tarbat on October 23, 2013, 09:48:21 AM
Quote from: pwfu
'Show only fleet watch flights on map' not working on both of my XP installs. Tried upgrade from 4.03, and fresh install as well. Upgrade to latest version this morning and still no joy

Confirmed, I don't know how we missed that one, it was working in an earlier beta.  I'll add to the task list - FS#259.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: vonsmalhausen on October 23, 2013, 10:24:28 AM
after my earlier problems with the L0008.dat file, i'm not keen on just copy/past my v4 folder in to the new v5 version
but i have lost my "custom legends", can somebody tell me in what file they are saved, so i can copy just that file
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: tarbat on October 23, 2013, 10:35:32 AM
D016.dat
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: vonsmalhausen on October 23, 2013, 11:00:56 AM
thanks for that Tarbat
I have yet one other question ; is there a way to copy/paste the AR column in to the PTTN column, and copy the latest time stamp in to the whole CH one ?
tried it via database explorer ; no success, and the DB3 editing tool no longer works because now it is encrypted
if I would be able to do this, it would solve my pictures problem
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: tarbat on October 23, 2013, 11:03:28 AM
If you took a backup of Navdata before upgrading to v5, you could try running SQL to populate the PTTN field on that unencrypted database.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: vonsmalhausen on October 23, 2013, 11:04:49 AM
thanks for the tip, did not think about that
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: tarbat on October 23, 2013, 11:06:32 AM
Put AR in PTTN, and AR followed by ",2" in PTTN2.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: vonsmalhausen on October 23, 2013, 03:02:54 PM
Quote from: Tarbat
if you took a backup of Navdata before upgrading to v5, you could try running SQL to populate the PTTN field on that unencrypted database.

I have no knowledge of SQL ( don't even really know what it is ) but I putted my last v4 DB3 file, updated with the latest DB update release, in the NavData.db3 Editing Tool, in the aircraft table I created the CS and PTTN columns, copied the regs in to the PTTN and added a time stamp in CS for the whole list.
created a new DB with the editing tool and pasted it in to the Data folder.
no joy : immediately I had downloaded pics for planes who where already in the pic folder.
opened the DB explorer, and aldo the "new" columns I created where there, no data was in it ( they where in a red'ish collor ) I gues this has to do with the incription
so I just will be patient and hope a fix for this problem can be offered soon
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on October 23, 2013, 03:45:10 PM
Liviu,

Regarding 343, from the shot of your d/b I note you have Autoupdate set to Y for this aircraft.  Can you make the changes back to your own photo in d/b explorer, delete the wrong photos again and set Autoupdate to N and let me know how it goes please.

Also make sure that in Preferences/Radarbox/Photo and Aircraft Auto Populate you have unticked Auto Update Manually changed Records

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: flygfantast on October 23, 2013, 04:15:44 PM
Upgraded to 5.00.047 yesterday and most of the "strange" flightids has now disappeared, although one seems to stick and it's "PZP". I have seen it on multiple aircraft during the last 24 hours, it seems to be "wandering" around.

Compiled a little list of the problem:

478340  PZP                      LN-RDV     DH8D  Wideroe              2013/10/23 04:21:36 
478340  PZP                      LN-RDV     DH8D  Wideroe              2013/10/23 07:04:06 
4AB102  PZP                      SE-LHB     JS32  Direktflyg           2013/10/23 15:39:00 
4AB481  G10                      SE-MDA     AT75  Braathens Regional   2013/10/23 04:49:43 
4AB481  BRX541A  ESSB-ESDB       SE-MDA     AT75  Braathens Regional   2013/10/23 06:15:47 
4AB481  G20                      SE-MDA     AT75  Braathens Regional   2013/10/23 08:12:09 
4AB481  G20                      SE-MDA     AT75  Braathens Regional   2013/10/23 10:20:57 
4AB481  BRX552A  ESDB-ESSB       SE-MDA     AT75  Braathens Regional   2013/10/23 14:34:02 
4AB481                           SE-MDA     AT75  Braathens Regional   2013/10/23 16:06:05 
4AB482  BRX542A  ESDB-ESSB       SE-MDB     AT75  Braathens Regional   2013/10/23 05:40:56 
4AB482  BRX543A  ESSB-ESDB       SE-MDB     AT75  Braathens Regional   2013/10/23 07:00:23 
4AB482  G2P                      SE-MDB     AT75  Braathens Regional   2013/10/23 12:18:50 
4AB482  BRX551A  ESSB-ESDB       SE-MDB     AT75  Braathens Regional   2013/10/23 14:37:51 
502C7C  BTI8PK   ENGM-EVRA       YL-BAQ     DH8D  Air Baltic           2013/10/23 04:24:24 
502C7C  PZP                      YL-BAQ     DH8D  Air Baltic           2013/10/23 15:39:50 
502C7E                           YL-BAY     DH8D  Air Baltic           2013/10/23 07:03:58 
502C7E  PZP                      YL-BAY     DH8D  Air Baltic           2013/10/23 08:25:32 
3CC222  PZP                      D-CAVA     SW4   BinAir               2013/10/22 13:43:39 
4785C2  PZP                      LN-WDF     DH8D  Wideroes Flyvesel... 2013/10/22 04:20:34 
4785C2                           LN-WDF     DH8D  Wideroes Flyvesel... 2013/10/22 12:59:26 
4785C2  PZP                      LN-WDF     DH8D  Wideroes Flyvesel... 2013/10/22 16:06:02 
4785C1  PZP                      LN-WDG     DH8D  Wideroes Flyvesel... 2013/10/22 16:06:54 
4400BD  PZP                      OE-GAA     C560  Tyrol Air Ambulance  2013/10/22 11:24:58 
4400BD  TYW723A                  OE-GAA     C560  Tyrol Air Ambulance  2013/10/22 16:18:40 
4AB148                           SE-LJH     F50   Amapola Flyg         2013/10/22 03:39:15 
4AB148  PZP                      SE-LJH     F50   Amapola Flyg         2013/10/22 16:53:11 
4AB148  APF021P                  SE-LJH     F50   Amapola Flyg         2013/10/22 18:27:38 
4AB481  BRX542A  ESDB-ESSB       SE-MDA     AT75  Braathens Regional   2013/10/22 05:42:51 
4AB481  BRX543A  ESSB-ESDB       SE-MDA     AT75  Braathens Regional   2013/10/22 07:03:12 
4AB481  G1P                      SE-MDA     AT75  Braathens Regional   2013/10/22 14:45:49 
4AB481  BRX553A  ESSB-ESDB       SE-MDA     AT75  Braathens Regional   2013/10/22 16:14:09 
4AB481  G20                      SE-MDA     AT75  Braathens Regional   2013/10/22 18:03:17 
4AB481  G20                      SE-MDA     AT75  Braathens Regional   2013/10/22 19:21:40 
4AB482  BRX540A  ESSB-ESDB       SE-MDB     AT75  Braathens Regional   2013/10/22 05:00:53 
4AB482  BRX541A  ESSB-ESDB       SE-MDB     AT75  Braathens Regional   2013/10/22 06:52:46 
4AB482  G0P                      SE-MDB     AT75  Braathens Regional   2013/10/22 08:25:15 
4AB482  G0P                      SE-MDB     AT75  Braathens Regional   2013/10/22 12:17:41 
4AB482  BRX551A  ESSB-ESDB       SE-MDB     AT75  Braathens Regional   2013/10/22 14:33:52 
4AB482  G2P                      SE-MDB     AT75  Braathens Regional   2013/10/22 16:23:28 
4AC92B  SERIK                    SE-RIK     C550  Siemens Financial... 2013/10/22 09:39:05 
4AC92B  PZP                      SE-RIK     C550  Siemens Financial... 2013/10/22 12:51:16 
502C7C  PZP                      YL-BAQ     DH8D  Air Baltic           2013/10/22 20:38:50 
502C7D  PZP                      YL-BAX     DH8D  Air Baltic           2013/10/22 08:27:24 


Niklas
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: RodBearden on October 23, 2013, 08:39:11 PM
I've been getting PZP a lot too, most recently on 40134E.

Rod
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: GreekSpy2001 on October 24, 2013, 09:43:06 PM
hi just upgraded v4.03 thru 5.0044 to 5.0047.  Briefly when in 44 I had the 3D option in the toolbar.  By the time I got 70 47 it had gone.  Seeing as I don't subscribe for the 3D version was surprised to see it in the first place. 

However more importantly I am getting no sound now when an Alert pops up.  The system is still pointing to the D005.WAV file after the upgrade

GRaham
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: tarbat on October 24, 2013, 09:45:52 PM
Try re-selecting the WAV file from the Radarbox/Data folder using the BROWSE button.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: GreekSpy2001 on October 24, 2013, 09:51:59 PM
thanks but it was the first thing I tried.  Just tried deselecting, restarting program and selecting again.  No joy.

Graham
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: tarbat on October 24, 2013, 09:56:25 PM
Did you use the BROWSE button to select the file, or type it in manually?
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: GreekSpy2001 on October 24, 2013, 10:06:44 PM
Apologies  False alarm.  The Mrs had turned the volume down because the Alert beep beep was annoying her!!!!!!!!!!!!

Graham

edit:  Volume on the speaker so that's why I missed it
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: shouriken on October 26, 2013, 04:57:14 AM
Since 044, the log report sent using AirNav mail server is truncated to ~34kB. It has been repaired in 3.13.
Using custom mail server, it is sent ok.

The name of the report saved locally is still incorrect.
E.g. the  log saved today "AirNav RadarBox Log 20131026.txt" and it contains data for 2013.10.25.
The line "Valid for 2013.10.26" should be "Valid for 2013.10.25".
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: neroon79 on October 26, 2013, 05:24:32 AM
Tweo issues concerning user comfort:

Since V4/V3.13 we have a direct link to the reporter section of MyLog menu from main window. Further we have a link to the MyLog menu. If you were in the reporter sub-section of MyLog and you are entering the MyLog menu by the MyLog button you got to the reporter sub-section. In my oppinion this is an unneeded redundancy, because if I have wanted to go to the reporter sub-section I would have used the reporter button. So, my idea would be, that if the MyLog button is used it will always go the the "Grids" section of the MyLog menu.

Another point concerning Grids-section:

If the RB software is running, the displayed grids-list stays with the day of starting the Software. In my oppinion it wold be great, if the list will automatically switch to the current date.

Error Issues with remote control and multi user PCs:

If the Software is running for a couple of hours and several remote actions and user switches were made, the software produces an error if one of this menus is tried to be opened: File, Filters, Map, 3D View, Tools Window, Help. All other Menus can be used without an error message. Error Logs had been sent to support. Mybe it's caused by the repeated on/off switching of the aero colour-sceme.

regards Ingo
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: neroon79 on October 26, 2013, 05:34:59 AM
If the altitude display is changed from ft to meters and vice versa while 3D mode is active, the software crashes.

The altitude shown in 3D mode is some kind of a gewnerator of lotery numbers but nothing wich is coming even close to an accurate display.

After starting 3D view the globe stops somewhere with maximum altitude, which is not very comfortable.

Ingo
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Kenny on October 26, 2013, 05:07:20 PM
Both 5.00.55 and 5.00.047  MyLog seem to less responsive than 4.43.  I have around 150MB of log

Kenny
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: GreekSpy2001 on October 26, 2013, 08:17:09 PM
some good news, the bug that I and some others experienced e.g. Radarbox s/w would crash when executing other commands in Windows 7 seems to have gone for me.  With the previous version I could crash Radarbox s/w by starting Photoshop elements, changing the default printer or changing the default home page in IE to name a few.   just tried all three and 5.0.0047 carried on running. 

This was with just upgrading the original s/w. not a new install.

:-)

Graham

Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: superspotter on October 27, 2013, 10:31:26 AM
I have a little query. It's not the end of the world, just a little annoying! Now I am using version 5.0 etc, when I go into reporter and select todays entries, every day all registrations have the asterix as if they are new additions even though I see the same aircraft day after day? A little bug? Didn't do this with 4.03.
regards clive.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: tarbat on October 27, 2013, 10:35:53 AM
Clive, this is already logged as a bug and is already being worked on for the next beta.

http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=7915.msg96804#msg96804
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: superspotter on October 27, 2013, 10:39:24 AM
Ta very much Tarbat, sorry for not reading through everything before posting!
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: GreekSpy2001 on October 27, 2013, 01:56:22 PM
has anything changed with the data coming out of port 30003? 

I use JSTARS to alert on mil traffic only and have noticed with this beta that between 10 and 20 % are not being picked up by JSTARS.  JSTARS had no such problem with 4.03.  Just gone back to 4.03 to confirm my findings.   The data in the respective db's are identical in NAVDATA and JSTARS as I create the JSTARS db from the navdata updates. 

Graham
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: GreekSpy2001 on October 28, 2013, 12:56:54 PM
just as an update to my port 30003 data issue. 

Having now run version 4.03 for past 24 hrs all data is correctly received in JSTARS.  So it seems that the data output thru this port is different.  Is this by design or is there a bug here?

Thanks

Graham
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: tarbat on October 28, 2013, 01:07:27 PM
Graham, I'm not aware of any changes, and the beta testing I did using port 30003 into Planeplotter worked perfectly.  Do you have "Filter garbled Flight IDs & Squawks" ticked in Preferences?

I'll grab a sample of 30003 output and see if anything looks odd.  Do you know what message types JSTARS uses?
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: GreekSpy2001 on October 28, 2013, 01:59:03 PM
hi  I'm told by Rob at JSTARS it uses "SBS-1 protocol to detect all traffic received"

can ask further if required

not at RDB pc to check on the garbled filter setting.  will check later

Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: tarbat on October 28, 2013, 03:21:47 PM
I need to know message numbers to be able to check.  Messages look like this:
MSG,6,0,0,896172,0,2013/10/28,15:21:00.499,2013/10/28,15:21:00.499,,,,,,,,1421,0,0,0,0
MSG,5,0,0,4007DB,0,2013/10/28,15:21:00.499,2013/10/28,15:21:00.499,,11325,,,,,,,,,,
MSG,5,0,0,896172,0,2013/10/28,15:21:00.499,2013/10/28,15:21:00.499,,35000,,,,,,,,,,
MSG,6,0,0,4CAAD8,0,2013/10/28,15:21:00.499,2013/10/28,15:21:00.499,,,,,,,,7671,0,-1,0,0
MSG,5,0,0,4CAAD8,0,2013/10/28,15:21:00.499,2013/10/28,15:21:00.499,,24975,,,,,,,,,,
MSG,3,0,0,4CAAD8,0,2013/10/28,15:21:00.500,2013/10/28,15:21:00.500,,24975,,,56.2593,-3.6451,,,0,0,0,0
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: GreekSpy2001 on October 28, 2013, 03:25:12 PM
ok will ask the question and post the reply

Can I record the above to highlight messages that don't get logged in JSTARS?

cheers
Graham
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: tarbat on October 28, 2013, 03:40:45 PM
Quote from: tarbat
The intention with the proposed changes is that photos will be displayed according the following rules:
1. If PTTN has a value in it, use that thumbnail file name.  Ditto for PTTN2.
2. Otherwise, use the old style file name - eg, for G-EZYA, file names G-EZYA.jpg & G-EZYA,2.jpg
3. Otherwise, NO PHOTO.  However, if displaying in MyLog screen, search photo folder for any photo file with a name that starts with the aircraft registration.

We're trying to cover all eventualities here, with users having saved their own photos over the years, and some aircraft sharing the same registration, etc................

Any final feedback on this?  These changes have been tested in private beta, and look okay, but I want to check if this will satisfy users with saved photos, etc.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: tarbat on October 28, 2013, 03:41:59 PM
Graham, if you know what you're doing, you could use Telnet to connect to LocalHost port 30003, and record.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: EK01 on October 28, 2013, 03:45:52 PM
Tarbat,

The 'search' actions for photos looks good to me. As you say, every eventuality is being covered.

Ian
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: shouriken on October 28, 2013, 05:47:57 PM
Sorry Tarbat, I've missed that.

It looks OK for me too.
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Northern Watch on October 28, 2013, 08:36:02 PM
Hello Tarbat,

Its got to cover all eventualities to keep the bulk of the users happy, so looks good to me on what you are proposing.

Regards

Keith
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: AV61 on October 28, 2013, 10:48:58 PM
Hi
I have updated to 5.00.47 and am experiencing the following problems
I do not have a home location marked on the map any more
Also if I click on my log and try to look up anything it either crashes out or takes a very long time before it responds

Thanks.
Nick
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: Runway 31 on October 29, 2013, 08:53:35 AM
Nick,

To show the home location marker go to Preference/Legends and Lables and tick Draw Home Location Legend.

The mylog issue is well on the way to being corrected and should be on the next beta release

Alan
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: GreekSpy2001 on October 29, 2013, 09:30:34 AM
Tarbat got the following from Rob

"JSTARS doesn’t recognize these kind of MSG,3/5/6 - only ID and AIR strings, not MSG."

I believe a new version may well also recognise MSG strings.

TELNET running and logging this morning but the MIL traffic has disappeared for now !!!

Graham,
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: AV61 on October 29, 2013, 12:29:15 PM
Thanks Alan  home location now sorted
Glad to know the my log problems are being rectified
Cheers
Nick
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: RodBearden on October 29, 2013, 05:01:29 PM
Any progress on the PZP flight id problem?  Just got another one from a DH8D - 405EF5

Rod
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: tarbat on October 29, 2013, 05:37:13 PM
PZP in FlightID has been logged as a bug - FS#267
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: RodBearden on October 29, 2013, 05:54:54 PM
Thanks, Tarbat

Rod
Title: Re: New AirNav RadarBox 5.00.47 Beta Upgrade
Post by: shouriken on October 29, 2013, 07:28:47 PM
Quote from: GreekSpy2001
TELNET running and logging this morning but the MIL traffic has disappeared for now !!!
If you have less then 3 clients/applications connected to ANRB port 30003, you will get data for all of them.
If you try a 4th connection, it will not be refused, but one of the previous 3 will not receive data anymore.

This is not related to version 5 of ANRB. I think it was discussed on this forum since 2009.