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AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com => AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com Discussion => Topic started by: steveb25 on April 01, 2008, 08:46:41 AM
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Since the release of v1.5 and it seems most of the problems resolved?
There are still a few issues outstanding, or so it seems from this forum.
I suppose this message is to Airnav, but is there any forecast on v1.6?
I know the stock answer will be soon, but i am still having a few issues with freezing and ideally would like to get them resolved.
Once again thanks to the team fro the very quick response to get v1.5 out, but any firther news would i know from this quarter be appeciated
Steve
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Yes :) We are running 1.6 as we speak doing testing (has been for about a week). The major bug fixes are:
1.) Recorder Issues rectified
2.) Minimization Issues rectified
As well as others. More information should be released soon once it goes into beta testing. We expect a few weeks from now.
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Thanks for the info, great news look forward to the release
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Can I suggest that when 1.6 is released you post the release to the "Announcements" section - I know of at least one user (my father) who didn't know about 1.4 let alone 1.5 because their releases are now buried many messages down a post some pages down this discussion board.
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It is mentioned on the support section of RadarBox on the main site but suggestion noted.
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Will version 1.6 be less processor intensive?
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1.5 is not processor intensive, are you having problems?
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I do have 1.4 installed right now and this one is bringing my 1.8 GHZ from normal 50 % to 100 % when running...
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Send us your pc specs to support so we can do some tests. Ifs its 1.8 P4 machine then thats 5/6 years old and it maybe you have turned all functions on and need to tune them down a bit.
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I do have 1.4 installed right now and this one is bringing my 1.8 GHZ from normal 50 % to 100 % when running...
What Anti Virus are you running ? Do you also have Windows Defender running ? Look at Task Manager to see what processes are running. It would be very strange if RB is slowing down your PC to that extent.
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I do have 1.4 installed right now and this one is bringing my 1.8 GHZ from normal 50 % to 100 % when running...
V1.5 is much less processor intensive than V1.5 - this was one of the major programming changes for V1.5.
Why are you still using V1.4?
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I am using 1.4 until all the reported problems have been solved with program freezes, etc.
My machine has 100 GB of harddrive (50 % free), 1.8 GHZ Pentium 4, 1 GB of RAM. I am not running any virus software, etc. on this machine, because it is not on the network.
The memory usage, etc. is not the problem. But the processor is heavily used by radarbox.
Why does it need so much processing power?
I am also running Astrogenic lightning detector and sometimes there are hundreds of lightnings detected per minute and displayed on a map. So basically similar to what radarbox is doing and this software is only using 5 % of CPU...
What do you guys mean with turn the functions down a bit???
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We can only suggest for you to move to 1.5 as only the recorder causes issues in 1.5 otherwise its much more stable than 1.4 especially the database.
A 1.8 Ghz Pentium 4 is quite old in computer standards now (2002 machine). RadarBox is is handling a lot calculations for every aircraft it gets it needs to get the details, collect them together, display them graphically, add to the database, get a picture etc.. Your lightning detector is less advanced by the data being passed and shown to you hence it is not as intensive enough.
Turning down functions:
1.) Reduce refresh time for aircraft in preferences
2.) Display one photo rather than two
3.) Reduce the extra details in the maps that you don't need
Hope that helps. At the end of the day your machine is a bit slow and hence we can't create a miracle :)
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Well, I have the update refresh rate turned down to 5000 ms. When I go even higher with the ms, RB does not show any aircraft anymore (e.g. when I go to 10000 ms - no aircarft is displayed at all - this may be a bug in the software?).
I do not display any photo by the way...
What I do not understand is the fact that on one hand you say a 500 Mhz machine will be enough to run radarbox and on the other you say a 1.8 Ghz machine seems not to be sufficient?
Do not get me wrong, I am not "complaining", but it seems that other users also do have a problem with slow menu display, etc.
I am only pointing to the direction that this may be an option for improvement.
After all, I am happy with radarbox and what it can do and it is fun to watch the aircrafts above!
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What was mention in the other post was that if you are in an area where there is low traffic then yes a slow pc will work fine.
However if you have heavy traffic then it will cause a problem as many more ADS-B messages to deal with it.
We do listen to customers and are taking onboard comments :)
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Any update on the release of 1.6?
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We are testing and fixing a few functions. We will keep you updated.
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Thanks guys
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Has anybody already grumbled about the range and bearing of the selected flight?
Mine doesn't change while a flight is selected - I need to click on another flight on the map and then click back again on the flight I am interested in to get the latest range and bearing.
It's great to see this feature back after being dropped from 1.4, but it would be better if it was constantly updated.
Is this being fixed in 1.6?
Rod
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Airnav - did you pick up on my previous message's request/bug report?
While I'm on about it, would it be possible to record in MyLog the minimum distance that a flight got to Home? Without recording all the time, it would be interesting to see how close a flight came.
Anyone agree?
Oh - and another thing - could we please have the ability to right-click on a network flight to see entries in MyLog? I know it could mean giving a warning that it isn't in MyLog, but it would often be useful.
And by the way, what news on 1.6?
Rod
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Just checked 1.6 that we are testing and the bearing and range were being updated in the lits :)
We have noted down your two other points.
Its still in testing, some users had issues when run after a 2 week period+. So we need to do changes, clean install then wait for a 2 week and period and confirm there is no other issues. This is what is slowling things at the moment
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Thanks for the update, Guys!
Rod
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Has the flight number been restored on the report in 1.6 ?
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On the basis that this suggestion is too late for version 1.6, can I please ask AirNav to right-align the numeric fields in the grids, like altitude, groundspeed, heading, range, bearing etc. It would make them easier to read.
Thanks
Rod
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Thought I'd bring this thread back to give AirNav the chance to keep us updated on progress!
How's it going, guys?
Rod
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Thanks for all your interest in V1.6.
After the release of airnavlive.com, our team is currently devoted to finish the ShipTrax project (which is now on beta testing and should be ready in 1 month). After that we will devote all our time to V1.6. (which is partially finished now).
Keep your suggestions coming and there is a great possibility of including them in this new version.
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for the wish-list :
add a possibility to record the raw ADS-B data received (BDS by BDS, I have a specific interest for the NUCp value as showed in BDS 0.5 which determines the reliablility of the position info provided by the aircraft)
in the mylog file add a sort function to differentiate basic mode S aircraft from ADS-B ones
add a possibility not to display the maximum range circles (by the way I sometimes receive tracks beyond them from low flying aircraft over the ocean : possible signal reflection over water??)
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1. Undocking of windows to allow duel screen usage.
Sorry support, I know you have said its on the list of things to look at, just want to keep it in the foreground of every ones mind ;)
2. Fix the scrollbar on MyFlights so that it does not always stay in the centre of scrollbar area.
I know its a minor thing but it bugs the hell out of me.
3. Fix the issue raised in this post (http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=900.0) (long post hence link)
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I don't know if others find this frustrating, but I would much prefer that when you click a column heading, the list should be sorted in ASCENDING order first, rather than the descending order that it does now.
More suggestions for keyboard shortcuts:
M - go to MyFlights
N - go to Network flights
S - go to Smartview
C - go to ACARS
A - go to Alerts
F - Advanced Filter
Ctrl-F - turn on current Filter
Ctrl-B - show ADS-B flights only
Ctrl-A - show All flights (turn off filter)
Ctrl-S - Sort by current column
By the way, I know that F9, F10 and F11 already do what I propose M, N, and S to do, but F9 doesn't work for me, and using the keyboard gives us the full selection of tabs, and are probably easier to remember.
Rod
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I'd just like it to stop not responding when something else pushes it to the background! :-)
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Another keyboard (and/or toolbar button) request:-
Ctrl - N Rotate map to North orientation
My map ends up in all sorts of weird orientations when I'm globetrotting - the only other way I've found of sorting it out is to choose Home and then navigate back to the place I was watching - and I'm not convinced that that works very well!
Perhaps there's another way of doing this, but I haven't found it.
Rod
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A map suggestion. I've already said that it would be good to be able to use + and - to zoom in and out, and the arrow keys to pan the map, and indeed it would be good to have the map controls available when the map is full-screen.
I would also love to be able to have the active aircraft's photos/details panel as a floating box on the full-screen map - perhaps turned on and off with the Tab key.
I've done a mock-up (below).
Rod
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Anothr request for the map - could you please make it opaque?
When I'm touring Australia, my home marker, compass rose and my polar diagram show through from the opposite side of the world, and it's most distracting!
Rod
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Rod,
Why not just switch off the range rings/compass rose and the polar diagram?
You can also deselect "Draw centred at home location" for range rings and line of sight range. The range rings and compass rose will then be centred on your map, no matter where you are :-)
I've noticed that this only happens if you have Spherical selected. You don't see this effect in Mercator or Cartesian maps.
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Normally I like them on, Allocator! And it's a hassle to turn them off just when I fancy a wander! As I've said before in this thread, it would help if we had the controls available when we have the map full screen.
And is there any advantage in having a transparent globe?
Thanks for the tip about the other projections, though!
Rod
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Hassle to turn them off ............. !!!!
There are 2 big buttons on the main menu bar to turn off the range rings and polar diagram :-)
Admittedly, you can't see these when you are in full screen view, but then I can't manage without the aircraft list - it's a good job that the RB program is so flexible.
Just pulling your leg :-)
Allocator
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Totally agree about the flexibility - RB is indeed great - notice it's also my intiials (coincidence....???)
If AirNav enhance the full screen view in the ways I've been going on about in this thread, personally, I'd use it MUCH more than I do now.
Rod
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Another suggestion about the Photo/Details panel - could we please have the option of seeing it in Smartview as well as MyFlights and Network.
As in my suggestion for full screen map view, perhaps we could just turn it on and off on any of these screens by pressing TAB?
Rod
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Hi Airnav
i was wondering from the info that the aircraft send to the RB. can it tell you what altitude the plane is asending or desending to? because his would be a nice option to have to have:-)
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cosmoc,
I dont think it is possible, as the altitude selection does not form part of the FMC(flight managment computer) on the aircraft. As I understand it, only the information from the FMC gets transmitted.. that is where the Flight ID, and route come from. The Transponder sends out the Mode S code which in turn gets registered on RB using the database to get the registration.
Only the cruising Altitude gets stored in the FMC for fuel planning.
hope this helps..
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thank for that:-)
i was just curiouse
lots of traffic around yssy at the moment!
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I was wondering from the info that the aircraft send to the RB. can it tell you what altitude the plane is asending or desending to? because his would be a nice option to have to have:-)
Mode S Enhanced Surveillance (EHS) does indeed include what's termed "vertical intent", i.e. the selected altitude from the FMS, so there's no reason why that couldn't be decoded and displayed along with all the other parameters.
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translated at the height of foot metric, as well as vertical speed in meters per second
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I wonder if there is any interest in a newer version giving details on the Network screen, of where the AirNav Box is located that has seen, and fed the flight data to the Network?
Also is there any way on the Network Quick Filter to catch details of Non-Location transmitting flights, with the originating source information to show a general direction of movement of flights such as the 4 Tornados that I recently spotted in Myflights on my system.
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jgrloit,
No there isn't regarding the network data. We don't see priority in whether you need to know where a box is located and who is feeding a certain flight. Maybe in the future.
The network is for ADS-B flights and if we added Mode-S flights as well it would make things very chaotic. As linked to above this would not be possible now.
Anyhow we hope all aircraft will be moving to ADS-B over the next few years :)
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While the civilian traffic will mostly move, the Military traffic will NOT declare the location.
I had 4 Tornados shown yesterday and it was these that I am interested in this display for - where were they first seen, and at what height - then which direction do they seem to be tracking in!!
When you see a flight of 4 - 2 pairs and then a tanker things start getting interesting!!!
I would also like you to consider a possibility toshow non-ADS-B aircraft ONLY in the Mylist display, while plotting those sending ADS-B on the map.
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I would also like you to consider a possibility toshow non-ADS-B aircraft ONLY in the Mylist display, while plotting those sending ADS-B on the map.
This is easy. Use the MyFlights Quickfilter and set it to:
Latitude = 0 and hit the filter button.
Aircraft that are not giving a position do not give latitude (or longitude) so by filtering out everything that is giving latitude, only non ADS-B will show in the list, but ADS-B traffic will show on the map.
What might be nice is a second level of filter to show something like:
Latitude = 0
AND
ModeS = 43C*
so this will only show non ADS-B Brit Mil aircraft :-)
Allocator
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I have had a lot of problems with the systm hanging and having to reboot. Once I deleted all the aircraft in My log the problem was solved. Pity I had to do that though.
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Hi Dudbaker,
Welcome to the forum. What version of the RadarBox software are you using?
I don't think that I've heard of a problem caused by MyLog entries, unless you manually edited them using another program?
How long had you been collecting aircraft in MyLog before you had this problem?
All the best
Allocator
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Hi Allocator
I am using 2008 which improved things greatly. I am not sure how long I had been collecting but I had over 8000 aircrft on the list. I have been running about 3 days since I deleted them all. I am now over 3000 and everything is working well.
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My database has over 16,000 records and I have never had a problem which caused me to delete the data and start again :-)
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Another suggestion for better usability of the database:
How about being able to right-click an entry in the grid and being given the option not only to open the aircraft in MyLog, but also to open the record in the Database - eg if you right click on an aircraft's Mode S, Aircraft Type or Registration, it can open the aircraft record - if you right-click on the Flight ID it can open the Routes record - if they are not present, opening a new record.
This would make adding to or amending the database MUCH easier.
Rod
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With relation to the database causing problems as Allocator said since the introduction in 1.5 of a new structure there does not seem to have been any problems with database entries.
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Airnav, any update on V1.6?
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As per the last the update by Development in this topic we are on ShipTrax at the moment:
"Thanks for all your interest in V1.6.
After the release of airnavlive.com, our team is currently devoted to finish the ShipTrax project (which is now on beta testing and should be ready in 1 month). After that we will devote all our time to V1.6. (which is partially finished now)."
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thanks!! looking forward to Shiptrax aswell!
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Hello
Satruation point seems to be 6000 aircraft. I now think my problem is that i did not remove 1.3 when I laoded 2008.
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I've got 11,425 entries in MyLog now and it runs like clockwork :-)
Allocator
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Allocator
Thanks. I believe that supports my theory. I now have to find the courage to delete the programme and re load.
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Allocator
Thanks. I believe that supports my theory. I now have to find the courage to delete the programme and re load.
dudbaker,
V1.5 (2008) installs into a completely different directory to V1.3, so there will be no affect at all if you leave V1.3 on your system. The only thing you do have to be careful of when you have 2007 and 2008 installed, is that you are actually running the version that you want - and not the old version by mistake. Also, if you are making any manual changes - copying files etc - that you are working on the right directories :-)
Are you running RB with an internet connection? If not, then make sure you untick "Share Data" in preferences, as this can slow up the system when you're not connected to the Internet.
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Be interested to see how many people have over 6000 entries in their databases.
According to forums about .db3 databases they have a 4Gb limit, but i would find it hard to believe that 6000 aircraft would create +4Gb of data?
Incidentally this is only effective on 32-bit machines 64-bit don't have this restrictions
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The MyLog.db3 on the laptop here is 3,343 KB
The number of records in MyLog is 10,459
I don't tend to keep the laptop MyLog up to date, so it's the desktop PC that has the accurate count and I've posted that elsewhere in the Forum. I just copy MyLog.db3 to the laptop every now and then.
The 11,425 records that were in my desktop MyLog can't result in a much larger file. It's worth noting that this represents 2 years of reception using the SBS-1 and RadarBox - I imported the SBS-1 records then deleted the duplicates.
Steve, I think that you are wrong about the maximum file size. My NavData.db3 file is 18,614 KB. Remember, the db3 file is a SQL file that just happens to have a db3 extension. It's not a dBase III file.
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I've also got over 6,500 aircraft with over 27,000 flights in MyLog.db3 - file size is 3,845KB. And RB runs very smoothly on my 2.8GHz processor with 2GB or RAM. Typically I have other things running as well - ShipPlotter, Email, etc...
The one thing I'd like to see fixed in v1.6 is making RB better able to cope with the PC being put into standby. I like to run RB 24x7, but with electric costs the way they are, I'm putting the PC into standby more often.
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Allocator
Yeah thanks for that. The limit was on a forum I found with relation to MYSql and not SQLite that I think the database is based around. There are still a few concerns floating around about size limits though mainly relating to SQLite being an ASCII database, whereas MySQL is a binary database. As i said before though even with your database we are no where near the limit that seem to being talked about.
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For some bizarre reason, my desktop MyLog.db3 file is 35,491 KB with a record count of 11,433 aircraft. I'm not quite sure why it is so big, although I have mucked about with it a number of times using external SQL programs. The earliest record is 20 July 2006.
However, RB is running fine and I'm not having any problems with MyLog, so that sort of dismisses the 6000 aircraft maximum - all I've got to do now is figure out why it's so big!
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I have about 10500 aircraft in my database with 34,400 KB. Seems to be "normal". My earliest record is April 4trh 2008. If the database gets too big we add another HD ;-)
Hosch
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Hosch
I now have some info from another thread. I wonder if you would try something for me. Go to taskmgr (Ctrl Alt Del) and select process tab. Check memory usage for ANRB.exe. If it is below 156000k then I may moving towards sorting my problem.
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I was searching the web and came across the following link :
http://mysite.orange.co.uk/iankirbys-sbs-1logos/index.html
maby Airnav can incorporate it into V1.6?
pot the tiny pictures below the From/To line next to the aircraft pictures.. will surely look nice if no picture is avaliable..
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Sorry dudbaker for the late reply. I was not at home.
ANRB.exe is about 93 700 K. Hope this helps ยจ!
Hosch