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Title: ATC referring to " Deconfliction Service"
Post by: CoastGuardJon on February 11, 2012, 10:30:56 AM

Hi all, listening to London West ATC 132.950 MHz AM, they frequently offer aircraft short cuts (if the a/c crew aren't requesting them!) but will then say this is a "deconfliction service" - what exactly is a deconfliction service?

Title: Re: ATC referring to " Deconfliction Service"
Post by: orkney on February 11, 2012, 10:55:29 AM

Hello Jon

This should tell you what you want to know in section 4: http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP774.pdf

I hope this helps.

Andrew

Title: Re: ATC referring to " Deconfliction Service"
Post by: CoastGuardJon on February 11, 2012, 12:11:18 PM

Many thanks for the link Andrew, clear as mud!   Will have to take a couple of hours to read and try to comprehend.

Title: Re: ATC referring to " Deconfliction Service"
Post by: Runway 31 on February 11, 2012, 12:54:04 PM

With the sounds of it, they are trying to make sure they dont hit each other, good idea I would have thought !!

Alan

Title: Re: ATC referring to " Deconfliction Service"
Post by: ACW367 on February 11, 2012, 01:50:20 PM

Basically the shortcut offered takes them outside of the airway system into open class G airspace.  Where the airliner is no longer afforded the protection of the airway.  Just as for every single other user of open airspace it is then the responsibility of the airliner pilot to 'see and avoid' all aircraft including gliders, balloons and light aircraft that do not show up on NATS radars. 

The NATS controller will however continue to deconflict with known radar traffic and will issue radar vectors for avoidance for this known radar traffic only. 

Title: Re: ATC referring to " Deconfliction Service"
Post by: ACW367 on February 11, 2012, 01:58:33 PM

It would also be worth you googling ATSOCAS  (Air Traffic Service Outside of Controlled Airspace).  Will give you alot of forum discussion.  The Basic Service, Traffic Service and Deconfliction Service were introduced in 2009, replacing the previous FIS, RIS and RAS.

This is a good link http://airspacesafety.com/atsocas

Title: Re: ATC referring to " Deconfliction Service"
Post by: CoastGuardJon on February 12, 2012, 10:04:52 PM

M.any thanks ACW367, that makes more sense than anything else I've read