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Title: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: AirNav Development on January 29, 2012, 10:08:34 AM
An updated navdata.db3 file is now available for download from the link below:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/anrb/dbupdater/ANRBDBUpdater20120127.exe

Changes:
1) Updated aircraft table;

Again tks for the volunteers team amazing work.
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: nortonbeak on January 30, 2012, 09:38:24 AM
Blimey! Regular monthly updates :-)

Hearty congratulations to everyone who puts in so much time and effort to produce the databases. Well done to you all.
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Marpleman on January 30, 2012, 02:48:42 PM
Hats off to all concerned!

Really like the frequency of these updates, and it's indicative of the reduction in "gaps" showing for both "My Flights" , certainly in my neck of the woods and network returns these days

Rich
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Team Spirit on January 30, 2012, 03:10:29 PM
Fantastic work guys, really appreciate the regular updates...thank you.

Cheers Dave.
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Northern Watch on January 30, 2012, 07:37:52 PM
Another very comprehensive update.  I am so glad I stopped updating the db on my own, it was a nightmare and I was never seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. 

Thanks updaters keep up the good work.

Regards

Keith
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: RodBearden on January 31, 2012, 01:14:08 AM
My airlines table has lots of changes to get the right logos to show. Because the monthly updates only officially affect the aircraft table, I export my airlines table before using the update, then reinstall it after doing the update.
 
 I used to use the SQLite Manager Firefox addon to do that, but now I use the much more user-friendly NavData.db3 Editing Tool to do it.
 
 I've grumbled about this problem on previous update threads.
 
 BTW I notice that the latest database update does actually include a new airlines table, with vastly more airlines and their ICAO codes in it, but unfortunately with very few IATA codes. As the airlines table's only function is to translate IATA codes into IACO codes, this isn't much help, so I've stuck with my own airlines table.
 
 Rod
 
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Drazick on February 04, 2012, 09:20:33 PM
hello, since I installed this update, the airport (GCRR) LANZAROTE appears Lanzerote? in error, is there any way to change it?

 thanks
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Runway 31 on February 04, 2012, 10:33:51 PM
Hi Drazick,

 in database explorer go into airports/GCRR and change

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: YXUphoto on February 05, 2012, 10:51:00 PM
I have been updating my NavData.db3 file manually for close to 2 years now....I checked the latest update on a different computer and it doesn't have majority of codes I have collected myself and updated in the DB.  Is there a way to update my DB in such a way that my own data doesn't get over-written?
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Runway 31 on February 06, 2012, 08:46:14 AM
Hi Mark,
 
If you send us the codes you have collected and are not available on the Navdata we could add them in and make them available to you and anyone else visiting your locale.   If however you dont feel that is the way you want to go, see this thread which may help   http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=6631.0

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: YXUphoto on February 09, 2012, 06:11:40 AM
Hi Alan,

thanks for the info on the software....looks very promising.  I have learned how to use the DB editor quite proficiently now, but I'm even more comfortable using MS Excel, so hopefully I can get this thing fired up soon.
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: lebelgepatte on February 15, 2012, 12:11:43 PM
hi, do this update also have all the stuff of the other update's before?
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Runway 31 on February 15, 2012, 01:01:23 PM
lebelgepatte,

Yes the update has everything from previous updates and any changes and additions made to the database from the last update.

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: lebelgepatte on February 15, 2012, 01:05:16 PM
oke thx alan,
i have to reinstall everything
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Runway 31 on February 15, 2012, 01:25:44 PM
Just run the update thats all thats needed

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: lebelgepatte on February 15, 2012, 02:14:40 PM
oke thx alan
only problem is that i have some aircraft without a silhouetts
is that normal?
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Runway 31 on February 15, 2012, 02:29:02 PM
Which aircraft are without a silhouette, these may be ones that are not available.  Its nothing to do with the update.  If you advise which ones you require someone may be able to assist.

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: lebelgepatte on February 15, 2012, 05:04:00 PM
before i didn't have this problem
know i can't see any militairy aircraft sillhouette
and little plane's like a-300s cessna, ...

canadair, embrear 190 .....
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Runway 31 on February 15, 2012, 05:38:57 PM
I cant imgine why this would be, lebelgepatte.  Are  the aircraft in the silhouettes folder?  Which version of radarbox are you using?

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: lebelgepatte on February 15, 2012, 05:48:33 PM
hi, all aircraft are in the folder  and the version 4.03 with last update from on the forum

Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Runway 31 on February 15, 2012, 06:01:03 PM
I am at a loss to explain why silhouettes suddenly dont appear, anyone able to give a clue?

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Runway 31 on February 15, 2012, 06:06:59 PM
lebelgepatte,

Just a hunch, from database explorer, how many aircraft are in your database?  Do you have a previous version of radarbox on your computer as you may have updated the wrong version if you failed to delete the original version when ypou upgraded to 4.03

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: lebelgepatte on February 15, 2012, 06:26:48 PM
at this moment i have only 600 in database  just before i had to reinstall everything i had almost 11.000
i bought de radarbox 3d in september 2011
the CD is version is 4.03

i have a lot of aircraft with this [...]
raytheon hawker 750
embraer 190-200lr
havilland canada dhc 8 q402
canadair cl 600 2d24
saab 340 af
dassault falcon 7x
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Runway 31 on February 15, 2012, 06:50:07 PM
Lebellgepatte, you should have around about 136,000 aircraft in your database having updated with this latest Navdata.

Please run the navdata again, close down radarbox before you do.  Run the navdata and have it install to where you have version 4.03 installed to. When it is finished restart radarbox and let me know how it has went

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: lebelgepatte on February 15, 2012, 07:12:14 PM
runway 31

i have deinstall everything

i just installed airnavradar again and just update with this version  but still i have the same aircraft without a sillhouette
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Runway 31 on February 15, 2012, 07:36:52 PM
Do you have some 136,000 aircraft in database explorer?

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: lebelgepatte on February 15, 2012, 07:40:35 PM
is that  in Airnav radarbox => data ?
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Runway 31 on February 15, 2012, 07:45:25 PM
Top left of main screen/File/Database explorer, click on this.  It will bring up a box in the centre of the screen, top line change to aircraft in drop down box.  Once changed look at bottom left corner it should state ********** rows on **ms

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: lebelgepatte on February 15, 2012, 07:54:03 PM
136.148 rows loaded 
i reinstall everything and did the update
i think that everything is fine at this moment

the only one i don't have is the airbus a380-861 but that it's normal

i will keep you up to date if i have the same problem
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Runway 31 on February 15, 2012, 08:02:18 PM
Good, looks like you need the A388 Silhouette so I have attached it, save in your silhouette folder and it should display next time you start up and see A380 aircraft

SAlan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: lebelgepatte on February 15, 2012, 08:09:10 PM
many thx
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: NB on February 18, 2012, 11:46:53 PM
Hi Everyone!

I have just downloaded the file, executed it after closing ANRB, and when I start the program...I have the same rows and not the 136000. Can you help me? thanks!
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: neroon79 on February 19, 2012, 05:24:28 AM
Did you select the correct installation path during installation? Repeat the installation and write down the path you entered, then go to the selected installation-folder and look for the "Data" folder. Inside you can find the new Database file. Copy it to the "real" Data folder under Your Disk/Partition:\may be Programs\AirNav Systems\AirNav Radarbox\Data. First you may consider to got to \AirNav Systems and look if there is a Data folder. That's the place were I have wrongly installed the new db file once in a while.

Alternatively you can search your machine for folder "Data".
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: NB on February 21, 2012, 12:40:17 PM
I believe so.....The file is in the Data folder......and yet I see no new file
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Runway 31 on February 21, 2012, 12:54:04 PM
NB

I believe so.....The file is in the Data folder......and yet I see no new file


You may have more than one occurance of Airnav on your computer and if so the system may be reading the wrong one, or you installed to an incorrect location.  The Navdata db.3 file you should have in your data folder will be Navdata.db3 dated 29/1 and there will be another 3 Navdata, files. Navdat db2 bak, Navdatadb3 journal and Navdata-backup db3.  If this insnt the case you may well have installed somewhere else in the wrong location

Is your Radarbox installed to the default c+\programme fiiles\airnav\radarbox location or did you install to somewhere like c:airnav\radarbox\

Install the update to where ever you installed radarbox and only go as far as airnav\radarbox and dont go as far as airnav\radarbox\data.

Once installed go to database explorers and open the aircraft table and that will advise how many aircraft it is reading.

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: NB on February 22, 2012, 09:54:18 PM
it says 81171 rows loaded in 159ms...

what does this mean? the file Navdata.db3 is dated 27/1/2012
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Runway 31 on February 23, 2012, 08:45:01 AM
I would suggest that it is the correct Navdata but it is not ths one being read by the system. This would also suggest to me you have another occurance of Airnav on you computer with an old Navdata db.3.   I would suggest you do a search for Navdata db.3 on you system to find the one in the correct place but is older and replace it with the one you have dated 27/2/2012.

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: NB on February 23, 2012, 08:08:41 PM
I have two locations: C:\user\appdata\local\virtualstore\Programfiles\airnavsystems\airnavbox2009\data

C:\programfiles\airnavsystems\airnavbox2009\data

They have different sizes (18.5MB and 27.4 MB, respectively)  and "last changed date". First one 22-2-2012 and the second 27-1-2012

any suggestions?

thanks!
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Runway 31 on February 23, 2012, 08:45:13 PM
I would suggest you swap them around then start up radarbox and it should be OK

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: NB on February 23, 2012, 10:08:21 PM
DONE!!! thank you all!!!!
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Brisbane on March 21, 2012, 08:13:18 PM
I have tried to install the newest database. The data file shows the latest version, but when the database explorer is opened still shows 80k aircraft.
I uninstalled Navdata backup in case it is still reading that but makes no difference. There are no older versions installed since upgrading to Windows 7, even uninstalled the version on my old XP in case that was affecting it.
 Tried to install on my desktop with same result.
Any help welcome.

Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Runway 31 on March 21, 2012, 08:41:33 PM
Hi Brisbane,

Where is Airnav installed to , is it the default location airnav installs to or have you chosen the install location.

Also when you state the data file is the latest version, in what location is this file?

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Brisbane on March 21, 2012, 11:45:35 PM
I used the default location to install the upgrade. It's listed in Data file under NavData 27/01/2012 21-54 DB3 File 28070 KB.
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Runway 31 on March 22, 2012, 09:45:12 AM
Thanks Brisbane,

Is Airnav itself also installed in the default location? i.e. c\:programmefiles\AirNav Systems\Airnav Radarbox and is the data file you have the Navdata d/b, file within its data folder  i.e c\:programmefiles\AirNav Systems\Airnav Radarbox\Data

Which version of Radarbox are yo uusing and have you preformed an upgrade from an earlier version?

Sorry for the questions but you must be doing something wrong and I am trying to find out what it is which isnt easy from a distance.

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Brisbane on March 22, 2012, 10:51:21 AM
I have v4.03 installed. All the files are located in C:\ProgramFiles\ Airnav Systems\ AirnavRadarbox. The NavData file is contained in the Data file.
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Runway 31 on March 22, 2012, 10:59:08 AM
Brisbane,

You must have another Navdata.db3 file which is being read by Airnav else you would be getting circa 133,000 aircraft.

Use Windows search to look for occurances of Navdata.db3 and tell me where they are located

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Brisbane on March 22, 2012, 11:13:43 PM
I have done a thorough search and the only navdata file installed is the back-up created in the Data file when I downloaded the new file. I have deleted this from the folder but still no 133K aircraft. 
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Runway 31 on March 23, 2012, 09:58:38 AM
Brisbane,

Please excuse me if I am asking some seemingly silly questions here as I am just trying to get to the root of your problem.

I note from your reply on 21st March you state the file in your data folder is named Navdata 27/02/2012 etc, the date on the Navdata.db3 file in the data folder should be the date you installed it on your computer not the date Airnav produced the file.  Airnav published the file on 29/01/2012 hence the name of this thread.

The date of the installed Navdata cannot therefore be 27/01 as it is before the publication date.  When you downloaded the Navdata from here, http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/anrb/dbupdater/ANRBDBUpdater20120127.exe  did you tell the installer to run or save the update.  If you told it to save, the update will not be installed but will be saved to the location you advised it to.

I would suggest you click on the link and click the RUN button, do not click save.  As you have installed Airnav to the default location just go with what Airnav advises during the process.  Radarbox should be off during the install process and can be restarted once the Navdata is installed.

I do not know how literate you are in the way of computers and if I am completely wrong in my above assumptions please excuse me as this is not easy from a distance.

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Brisbane on March 23, 2012, 11:39:42 PM
I have installed using Run, but still refuses to accept the new database. Getting very frustrated as there is no trace of any previous NavData on the PC. I did have to reinstall Windows after a major corruption, but have deleted the Program File from the "old" stored version.
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Runway 31 on March 24, 2012, 09:21:13 AM
Brisbane,

I know what you mean by frustration!! the 12 hours or so between question and reply doesnt help either.

You must have a Navdata somewhere on the computer or else you wouldnt get any registrations etc shown on your screen and wouldnt have 88,000 frames.  Be very careful what you delete when you are unsure of your ways around a computer.

It would help if you could tell me the location of Airnav on your computer i.e. C:\Programe Files\Airnav Systems\Radarbox, if you have installed to the default this will be the case and i use this assumption when giving the advice.

If you have run the update the new Navdata must be somewhere on the computer, but again if you have used the default with the Navdata installer it would have sent the updated Navadata to the program files location and.  Carry out a search again for NavData.db3, using solely that statement.  This will show you all occurances with that in the name in your computer.  There should be a few different ones but you must remember that it is only Navdata.db3 you are interested in, nothing else with any further additions.  This Navdata.db3 should be dated with the install date which I presume is yesterdays date and will be around 27,000KB in size.

You will need to move the updated Navdata.db3 from wherever you have installed it to on the computer, to the correct place which if you have installed Radarbox to the default location should be c:\Program Files\AirnavSystems\AirNav Radarbox\Data. Moving it into the correct location will mean that you will be asked if you are sure you want to do this, answer yes.

Re-start and hopefully it will work.

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Brisbane on March 24, 2012, 11:14:01 AM
I have Radarbox installed in C:\ProgramFiles\AirNav Systems\Radarbox. I have done another search and found some old NavData files in Recycle Bin. I've deleted these, reinstalled under Run and still no luck.
I'm in the process of searching the whole PC again, which is taking some time. Hopefully, I'll find the offending file somewhere. Rapidly running out of ideas.
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Runway 31 on March 24, 2012, 12:26:41 PM
A search using windows search should take a matter of minutes.

With that location, the update should have went into the data folder OK.  Unfortunatly the programme file location will cause you problems with the windows virtual store and if I was you I would uninstal radarbox and change the default location to something like c\Airnav.  The when you carry out the update send it to Radarbox at that location.

If Radarbox is running OK, I would suggest you leave it as it is and await the new version of Radrabox hopefully sometime this year.  This version will do away with Navdaat updates as we know them.

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: neroon79 on March 24, 2012, 01:43:01 PM
I'm following this issue for quite a while, and I'm not 100% sure, that you have already determined the "active" installation folder. Here is a short way to find it:

-Run ANRB Software
-go to Reporter an then generate a LOG by clicking on Generate.
-then click on "Save to File"

You should get something like this:
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z157/neroon79/Airnav%20RADAR%20Box/MenuRB.png)

That's the path to your "active" installation. 

The "Data" folder is in the same folder as the "log" folder.

If you like you can download a uncompressed version of my navdata.db3 ( https://rapidshare.com/files/3892903713/NavData.db3 ). There are 136.450 airframes in the list.

Stop the ANRB Software and copy this file to the "Data" folder you have found.
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Brisbane on March 30, 2012, 10:18:52 PM
Sorry for the delay in replying, but I've not been too good plus a trip away. I reinstalled Radarbox in it's own folder not under Program Files. The system seems to be working better, but, still no 133K aircraft when I downloaded the latest database. Think I'll give up until the promised update later this year that does away with updates.
Just like to thank everbody for their help over the last couple of weeks.
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Runway 31 on March 31, 2012, 07:08:13 AM
No problems Brisbane, hope you are feeling a bit better.  Sorry I couldnt help but at least the programme still works and if you see an unknown aircraft if you click on it hopefully its details at leadt will download.

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: AV61 on April 03, 2012, 03:18:56 PM
I also have the sam problem I have downloaded the new one and still only have 81787 rows
my DATA folder  has a MYLOG.DB3     a  NAVDATA.DB3 (DATED 27/01/2012) and a NAVDATA -BACKUP.DB3  DATED 19/2/2009

Mine is  a new 3D version  4.03
help please
thanks
Nick
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Runway 31 on April 03, 2012, 03:26:29 PM
AV61,

Please use Windows Search for Navdata.db3.  Tell me were they are. 

Also which version of windows do you use and which path do you Airnav installed to.

Did you have a previous version of Airnav installed prior to 4.03?

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: AV61 on April 03, 2012, 05:30:53 PM
hi
I have clicked on search programs/files typed in navdata.db3 and it comes up with nothing found
I am using Windows 7 and this is a new airnav 3d  I havnt had it before
thanks
Nick
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Runway 31 on April 03, 2012, 05:42:19 PM
Nick,  Going by your answer it looks like you have saved the Navdata but havent installed it.

Like  I advised the other chap you will need to Run the file not just save it.  Did you run or save the file from the website.  If you saved it you will require to run it by double clicking it or could I suggest you go to

http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/anrb/dbupdater/ANRBDBUpdater20120127.exe and press RUN.  Ensure Airnav is off when you do so.

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: AV61 on April 03, 2012, 05:57:56 PM
hi Alan
I have now sorted it
I  rechecked my pc for NavDATA.db3 and found it had installed to my c:\user... file
I dont know why because I only installed to my Airnav directory.I have now deleted the copies in the
C:\user...... files and have opened my airnav and heyho  I now have 136148 rows in my aircraft list.

Many many thanks for your help as I wouldnt have resolved the problem without it.
THANKS AGAIN
Nick
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Runway 31 on April 03, 2012, 06:02:26 PM
Knew it had to be there somewhere Nick

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: pjotrtje on April 04, 2012, 08:25:36 AM
Hi y'all,

Just checking: is the January 29th file still the most up to date one, or has a new release already taken place and am I just unable to locate that one properly?

Rgds,
Pieter
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Runway 31 on April 04, 2012, 08:39:19 AM
Hi Pieter,

The January one is the latest available update.  What do you mean you are unable to locate it properly?

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: pjotrtje on April 04, 2012, 09:02:03 AM
What do you mean you are unable to locate it properly?
In the forum, I meant... There's a lot of different topics, that's why I might hav ebeen upable to locate the most recent one. In software/database updates like this, I'd expect something like a moderator's topic which announces the new update, and contains the link. Perhaps that's already the case?
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Runway 31 on April 04, 2012, 09:47:41 AM
Hi Pieter

This thread you are posting on is  titled New Navdata.Db3 - 20120129, if you go to the first reply on page one you will find the link to the update!!

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: MIKE.UTD on April 15, 2012, 08:42:32 PM
Hi,

Brilliant work as ever , when is the next update due ?

Thanks

Mike.
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Runway 31 on April 16, 2012, 07:12:01 AM
Only Airnav can answer that one I'm afraid

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: pjotrtje on April 21, 2012, 07:32:41 AM
And who (as in: username ;-)) would be Airnav? A lot has changed in the recent three months...
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: lebelgepatte on April 24, 2012, 08:08:05 PM
when does the new update come out ?
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20120129
Post by: Runway 31 on April 25, 2012, 08:32:05 AM
Hopefully soon!!

Alan