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Has anyone seen this fellow on the system and does it come up as A380 in aircraft column.
Flymee
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They come up as A388
Alan
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I get usually 8 to 12 different A388 per day serving up to 20 different connections.
A388 is the correct ICAO Type designator for A380-8** airframes.
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Yep, I've had 5 today.
2 x Air France
2 x Lufthansa
1 x Emirates
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Yes, I've picked up 10 today :)
4 x AIRFRANCE
2 x EMIRATES
4 x LUFTHANSA
And I had the pleasure in flying in one last year LHR to CDG and return " most excellent it was too " :)
Here's a pic of the actual aircraft and below a model in 1/200 scale which I bought at CDG prior to boarding for the flight back to Heathrow.
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today :
4 Emirates
2 Quantas
2 Singapore airlines
5 Lufthansa
overall in total 44 different ones
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Has anyone seen this fellow on the system and does it come up as A380 in aircraft column.
Flymee
As Alan explained the correct code is A388 and that is the code with the silhouette. If you pick newly delivered ones up on the network, the incredibly annoying Airnav bug will populate them to your existing navdata with incorrect short code A380, even though they are in our DB as A388. This will only be corrected on your system if you upload a subsequent new Navdata containing our DB work, issued roughly monthly. Even then if it is in your Mylog, uploading the new Navdata alone will not correct the Mylog entry. It will only correct when you pick up the aircraft physically on your box again following the upload.
Newly delivered Boeing 777 Freighters will also incorrectly display B77F instead of the correct ICAO of B77L you should be getting from our DB.
If you search back through the forum you will find many threads explaining this. Hope that helps explain a longstanding issue.
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Additional to the mentioned A388/A380 and B77L/B77F there is the same bug-problem with the K35R which will populate as KC35(as far as I remember) and the C17, which will populate as BC3. This will especially an issue, if you are using an old database delivered on the ANRB Software CD. If you are not living an in area with a huge amount of airframes using false ICAO Hex addresses it's highly recommended to download the latest Database release available in this forum. Even if you do so, you have to go through your database and manually correct the designators of all newly populated airframes of the mentioned Type. Furthermore almost al smaller AC are populating without the designator at all.
My A388 List from yesterday:
1. VH-OQH Airbus A380-842 QFA9 7C4927 Australia au 23/08/2011 03:08
2. 9V-SKJ Airbus A380-841 SIA322 76CD6A Singapore sg 23/08/2011 03:18
3. VH-OQF Airbus A380-841 QFA31 7C4925 Australia au 23/08/2011 04:10
4. D-AIMA Airbus A380-841 DLH401 3C65A1 Germany de 23/08/2011 04:24
5. F-WWSF Airbus A380 AIB031C 383F1A France fr 23/08/2011 08:05
4b. D-AIMA Airbus A380-841 DLH454 3C65A1 Germany de 23/08/2011 08:38
6. D-AIMF Airbus A380-841 DLH400 3C65A6 Germany de 23/08/2011 09:27
7. A6-EDC Airbus A380-861 UAE202 8960E4 United Arab ae 23/08/2011 09:58
8. D-AIMC Airbus A380-841 DLH455 3C65A3 Germany de 23/08/2011 10:12
9. A6-EDA Airbus A380-861 UAE17 8960E2 United Arab ae 23/08/2011 10:29
10. A6-EDG Airbus A380-861 UAE1 8960E8 United Arab ae 23/08/2011 10:32
11. 9V-SKB Airbus A380-841 SIA333 76CD62 Singapore sg 23/08/2011 11:03
12. D-AIMD Airbus A380-841 DLH721 3C65A4 Germany de 23/08/2011 11:40
2b. 9V-SKJ Airbus A380-841 SIA317 76CD6A Singapore sg 23/08/2011 11:56
1b. VH-OQH Airbus A380-842 QFA32 7C4927 Australia au 23/08/2011 12:24
13. D-AIMB Airbus A380-841 DLH711 3C65A2 Germany de 23/08/2011 13:25
14. D-AIME Airbus A380-841 -------- 3C65A5 Germany de 23/08/2011 13:59
14. D-AIME Airbus A380-841 DLH710 3C65A5 Germany de 23/08/2011 14:00
9b. A6-EDA Airbus A380-861 UAE18 8960E2 United Arab ae 23/08/2011 14:28
10b. A6-EDG Airbus A380-861 UAE2 8960E8 United Arab ae 23/08/2011 14:50
15. 9V-SKK Airbus A380-841 SIA318 76CD6B Singapore sg 23/08/2011 16:52
16. A6-EDE Airbus A380-861 UAE3 8960E6 United Arab ae 23/08/2011 16:57
12b. D-AIMD Airbus A380-841 DLH720 3C65A4 Germany de 23/08/2011 17:10
3b. VH-OQF Airbus A380-841 QFA10 7C4925 Australia au 23/08/2011 21:31
15b. 9V-SKK Airbus A380-841 SIA321 76CD6B Singapore sg 23/08/2011 22:01
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Thanks for your reply folks will be keeping my eyes on the lookout and will report my first sighting.
Hi Alan good to see your reply too.
Flymee
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Has anyone seen this fellow on the system and does it come up as A380 in aircraft column.
Flymee
As Alan explained the correct code is A388 and that is the code with the silhouette. If you pick newly delivered ones up on the network, the incredibly annoying Airnav bug will populate them to your existing navdata with incorrect short code A380, even though they are in our DB as A388. This will only be corrected on your system if you upload a subsequent new Navdata containing our DB work, issued roughly monthly. Even then if it is in your Mylog, uploading the new Navdata alone will not correct the Mylog entry. It will only correct when you pick up the aircraft physically on your box again following the upload.
Newly delivered Boeing 777 Freighters will also incorrectly display B77F instead of the correct ICAO of B77L you should be getting from our DB.
If you search back through the forum you will find many threads explaining this. Hope that helps explain a longstanding issue.
Not a serious issue but I think I know which anti AN site will pick up this one and, no doubt, one very bitter banned AN forum member in particular.
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Your right not a serious issue, but you know who will be raving about it on another site, "he is a little child who has lost his rattle on here".LOL
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Eye in the sky,
You are right. It didn't take them long. Once again they seem to recognise not only their anti AN site but even themselves from a description only. Interesting to note however a number of posts now coming through on their forum from their own contributors who are beginning to find the continual anti AN comments from two of their members in particular just a little tiresome.
Methinks they need to get out more !
Edit: picked up 2 hours after their post first appeared apparently. just goes to show some of us have better things to do than spending our time continually checking a site we are banned from for little snippets to be critical about. Dear oh dear.
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Cracked it!
Seen levelled at EGLL A388 QFA32 VH-OQE Quantas. My first. (A few minutes ago)
My data shows this as A388 does that mean my data is up to date?
When I say data I mean network table.
flymee
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Hello
Congratulations :-). It should indeed say A388.
Andrew
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Was it really necessary to mention this "other" site?
Do not touch any chains end without seeing the other end, because you don't know which kind of animal is on the other end. ;-)
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Was it really necessary to mention this "other" site?
Do not touch any chains end without seeing the other end, because you don't know which kind of animal is on the other end. ;-)
Ingo,
You are quite correct with what you say although as you will have noted this 'other' site was never mentioned by name. They do seem, however to always recognise themselves from the description given. I was over 30 years in sales and was always told to NEVER critiscise the opposition, (something they perhaps should pay heed to) as it would inevitably end in tears. Constructive critiscism was always welcome however. We shall see. I have now deleted their website from my 'Favourites' (after all the sad little gang of two's comments were always good for a laugh). They can continue with their anti AN comments between themselves.
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They can continue with their anti AN comments between themselves.
And hopefully getting bored, if nobody pays attention to their almost useless comments.
...although as you will have noted this 'other' site was never mentioned by name.
Yeah, but sometimes it is already enough to just mention the existence of such site, to set off a new chain-reaction of useless/unnecessary comments and argumentations. That's why I'd like to prefer to not mention the pure existence of this site at all. Well, I think that's enough attention to this old "horror story". Back to topic.
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Ingo,
Comments duly noted.
Cheers,
Ian
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Was it really necessary to mention this "other" site?
Do not touch any chains end without seeing the other end, because you don't know which kind of animal is on the other end. ;-)
Ingo,
You are quite correct with what you say although as you will have noted this 'other' site was never mentioned by name. They do seem, however to always recognise themselves from the description given. I was over 30 years in sales and was always told to NEVER critiscise the opposition, (something they perhaps should pay heed to) as it would inevitably end in tears. Constructive critiscism was always welcome however. We shall see. I have now deleted their website from my 'Favourites' (after all the sad little gang of two's comments were always good for a laugh). They can continue with their anti AN comments between themselves.
Yes it was only a matter of time before their own members got feed up with the D&A SHOW.
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It only took 7 days for me to quite that forum.
Bar a few quotes you wouldn't know I'd ever been there, mind you I didn't expect my parting post to remain on there very long. ;)
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It only took 7 days for me to quite that forum.
Bar a few quotes you wouldn't know I'd ever been there, mind you I didn't expect my parting post to remain on there very long. ;)
Your final post was there just long enough to be noticed before it was removed ;)
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6184/6046349746_1ddc9e1c0d_m_d.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarbat/6046349746/sizes/o/in/photostream/)
I've kept my account active there so that I can defend the insults that are occasionally thrown at me :( The latest was a false accusation that "We're 99.99% sure you have multiple accounts". Those guys are paranoid!!!
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And there was me thinking that had gone forever.
Well, I wasn't rude, I just told it how I saw it and for someone coming into the hobby for the first time I was looking for advise, tips and links to what others had done ect.
I could have stuck around and not said anything but I've better things to do with my life so it's better this way all round and if they want to talk about me then fine, I'm not likely to see it and at least I left an impression on there. ;)
It's also easy enough to see if someone has multiple user accounts with the SMF forums as there's an Admin facility where you can list the members by the last IP address they used so it should easy to spot. Although you have to be careful that it's not two people from the same LAN. ;)
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And Budgie you should be able to get all the advice and assistance you may require from the helpful members on THIS forum !
Ian
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Although this thread has wandered off topic, similar comments to the ones in the latest postings were always going to crop up on this forum sooner or later.
I’m another who hasn’t an account with ’The Other Site’, but after reading submissions to our group, I always read the postings there for a bit of daily entertainment from the ‘dynamic duo’ and a couple of others, and I must admit I enjoy the occasional postings from others, of interest to virtual radar users and aviation enthusiasts in general.
Probably a bit childish, but before I go there I always try to guess what the response will be to postings here which you know they will have a go at.
Must admit I was wrong on Tuesday when AN Dev informed us that the network would be down for 5 minutes and it was all of 7 minutes 22 seconds before it was back up and nobody there pointed out that yet again AN had taken longer than they said they would .
In a way I’ll actually be a bit disappointed when AirNav clear up all the ‘bugs’ and other outstanding issues because I’ll miss the chuckles that the biased comments and opinions provide.
I would also like to say that I admire Tarbat for the generally dignified way he responds to personal comments aimed at him on there and the restraint AN show in not taking the bait.
Syd
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It only took 7 days for me to quite that forum.
Bar a few quotes you wouldn't know I'd ever been there, mind you I didn't expect my parting post to remain on there very long. ;)
Your final post was there just long enough to be noticed before it was removed ;)
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6184/6046349746_1ddc9e1c0d_m_d.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarbat/6046349746/sizes/o/in/photostream/)
I've kept my account active there so that I can defend the insults that are occasionally thrown at me :( The latest was a false accusation that "We're 99.99% sure you have multiple accounts". Those guys are paranoid!!!
They are not only paranoid but hypocrites there Moto should be ‘Don’t do as I do, do as I say’ but then the D&A show no doubt carries on.