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Title: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: AirNav Development on July 25, 2011, 12:51:48 AM
A new navdata.db3 installation is available on the link below:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/ANRB/DBUpdater/ANRBDBUpdater20110724.exe

Over 120000 aircraft on AirNav RadarBox database at this time.

Changes:
1) New aircraft table updates reflected on the new navdata.db3 file;

One more time this is the result of the hard work and dedication from all the Database Updaters team. To all of them a big thank you and to all of you hope you enjoy it.
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: Team Spirit on July 26, 2011, 08:01:28 PM
Many thanks guys and likewise to all who worked on this in the background.

It's very much appreciated - Thank you!

Cheers Dave.
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: Hawkeye on July 26, 2011, 09:16:38 PM
Installed new navdata.db3 and aircraft increased to over 120000 but routes decreased from nearly 400000 to just over 2000.
Routes reduction not happened when I've updated previously.
Reinstalled my old one for time being. Any explanation would be appreciated.

regards

Syd
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: tarbat on July 26, 2011, 09:55:22 PM
Reinstalled my old one for time being. Any explanation would be appreciated.

Well, as long as you're online, Radarbox will get the route data from the Airnav server, rather than using the old data that was in the previous database.  That way you're sure of getting the latest route data from the server.
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: MW0CVW on July 28, 2011, 02:06:39 PM
Hello,

I must also thank everyone for the hard work in completing the new Navdata database.

One simple question?.

Which directory or folder should the Navdata.db3 be copied too.

Paul

Mw0cvw

EGNR/EGGP
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: Runway 31 on July 28, 2011, 02:42:29 PM
Paul

It depend on where you have radarbox installed.  If you have installed to the default c:\programfiles location it goes in c:\programfiles\Radarbox.  That is where the installer will put it by default.  If however you have it in C:\Airnav, it should direct it to c:\Airnav\radarbox or where ever you have radarbox installed.

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: Hawkeye on July 28, 2011, 09:16:15 PM
Thanks for the reply Tarbat.

Installed latest update again which showed 1478 routes. Ran RB from 0600 today and at 2100 the database had increased to 2872.
Seems to me that as it's only updating the flights appearing in MyFlights and auto populating them constantly with presumably up to date data, it's not before time that a fresh start was needed.
Just a couple more questions. How did the database build up to nearly 400000 and why was a new start not considered on previous updates. Like Horsham Spotter in another thread, I'm glad to be rid of 'em.
Perhaps the option of keeping  your old one for those who wish to when updates are issued would be a good idea though.

Syd
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: CYFC on July 29, 2011, 01:05:24 AM
Hello,  Most grateful, if someone could tell me how to update my data base, using the "updater"...Cheers Doug
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: Runway 31 on July 29, 2011, 07:17:52 AM
Doug,

Close down Radarbox

Go the the top of the thread, press the link and download the update.  When downloaded run the update and direct it to the location you have Airnav/radarbox installed.

Once finished start up radarbox and the update should be installed.

Alan

Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: Runway 31 on July 30, 2011, 12:39:52 PM
I can download and install direct from the internet from my main Windows XP computer.  With my Vista laptop it is another matter.  Window security stops me downloading any excutable file and I have to download onto my main computer and transfer it over using a USB stick.

Can someone remind me where to change the security settings on Vista to allow me to download and instal directly please.

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: Blueboy on July 30, 2011, 12:55:17 PM
Hello,

As you can see this is my first post to this forum, although I have had my Radarbox for ~2years and now wonder what I did before it :)

A question about this latest update. I've downloaded it and it shows up in the correct data folder at ~53MB. However, when I check my database explorer it says I have ~83,000 aircraft records. I was looking for ~120,000. Is there something I have forgot to do? Just to add that computers are not my strong suit.


Thanks

J.D
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: Runway 31 on July 30, 2011, 05:45:19 PM
Hi JD

Where is radarbox installed in your computer?  Do you have more than 1 radarbox folder?

The default location is c:\programfiles\airnav\radarbox and if it is there, the installer will put it into the right folder by default as well.

If you have installed radarbox to a different folder, you will need to direct the installer to the location of your Airnav\radarbox folder.

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: Blueboy on July 30, 2011, 07:16:16 PM
Hi Alan,

Thanks for the reply, yes I only have 1 RadarBox installed and as you say its installed in the default location C:\progamfiles\airnav\radarbox. The new update is installed in the Data folder in radarbox and as I said it appears to be larger than the old Navdata.db3 at ~53MB, but when I look in the Database explorer there are only ~83,000 aircraft loaded - pretty much the same as the old Navdata db.3. I tried moving what I take is the backup file - db3.bak - elsewhere in case it was reading data from there but still the same - no sign of the 120,000 aircraft that were updated ?

J.D

Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: AirNav Support on July 30, 2011, 07:28:23 PM
Do search of navdata on your machine, and tell us what locations and files it comes up with?
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: Blueboy on July 30, 2011, 07:47:29 PM
Hi AirNav, I carried out a search and only 1 file came up - Navdata db.3 - located in  c:\progamfiles\airnav\radarbox\data. As I said I moved the db3.bak to my expansion drive.
I take it when it says loaded 83,621 rows - in the Aircraft bit of the Database Explorer that equates to 83,621 aircraft - just checking :)

J.D
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: Runway 31 on July 31, 2011, 06:51:59 AM
Blueboy

Try downloading and installing again and see if it makes any diference.

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: tarbat on July 31, 2011, 06:57:12 AM
Hi AirNav, I carried out a search and only 1 file came up - Navdata db.3 - located in  c:\progamfiles\airnav\radarbox\data.

What operating system are you running?  If it's Vista or Win7, then installing in the Program Files folder will mean the database ends up in the Windows Virtual Store.  See the FAQ at http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=1570.0
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: Blueboy on July 31, 2011, 09:03:59 AM
Hi Alan, I tried downloading and installing again - no difference

Tarbet thanks for your reply - I do indeed have a Navdata.db3 installed in this windows Virtual Store at ~20MB.

I'm now confused!

I appear to have Airnav 2009 installed in

c:\progamfiles\airnav\radarbox and also in this

Virtual Store\programfiles\airnav

Whats the solution? do I delete one of them or at least move one to my extension drive temporarily or just copy the new update to this Virtual Store?

Don't you just love computers :)

J.D
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: tarbat on July 31, 2011, 09:27:53 AM
J.D, you have a choice.

The BEST solution is to uninstall, and re-install the latest version (from http://www.airnavsystems.com/RadarBox/support.html) somewhere other than in the Program Files folder.  For example, I use C:\MyProgs\ for all program installations, to avoid Windows using the Virtual Store.  You may want to save a copy of your MyLog.db3 database.

The quick solution is to move the updated database to the Virtual Store.
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: Runway 31 on July 31, 2011, 09:52:58 AM
J D

I agree with Tarbat, save your mylog file, delete all occurances of Airnav and download and install the latest version as directed by Tarbat into a new directory as he suggests.

Once installed download and install the updater into the new directory. and replace your saved Mylog into \data

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: Blueboy on July 31, 2011, 10:14:13 AM
Hi Guys, thanks for all your help - I'm on a very steep learning curve as far as computers are concerned.

Tarbet, I've went for the quick solution and that appears to have done the trick - my Database Explorer is showing 120,000+ aircraft.

I'll ponder on the BEST solution - may need further assistance for that step :)

Thanks Again

J.D
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: Runway 31 on July 31, 2011, 11:54:30 AM
Glad you got it working JD

I would still go with the delete and re-install as suggested by Tarbat as you will have the same problem with the next update and you will have potentially other problems caused by the virtual store over time

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: Blueboy on August 06, 2011, 02:24:15 PM
Hi Alan, Tarbet

I finally bit the bullet and deleted the program from c:\programfiles & Virtual Store\programfiles and then re-installed the program into c:\MyProgs and then downloaded the latest update and then copied my old Mylog.db3 back into new location. Never done as much "computering" before but wasn't quite as painful as I thought it would be - touch wood. Back up and running again and can get back to looking at RB and watching the sky!

Thanks again for all your help

J.D
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: Runway 31 on August 06, 2011, 02:35:30 PM
The more you have to overcome wee problems the easier it becomes.

Well done

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: Blueboy on August 07, 2011, 04:59:50 PM
Hi Alan, I wee bit off the topic of this thread but I've encountered another hurdle in my journey through the world of computers. I 've downloaded the new logos from Rods Utilities site. But I now have two folders - one with the "old" logos and one with the "new" logos - is there anyway to merge these two folders together. I tried copying one into the other but that just puts one folder into the other folder. Any suggestions ?

Thanks

J.D
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: neroon79 on August 07, 2011, 05:07:21 PM
You can do the following:

Open Rods Folder:

Press CTRL+A and then CTRL+C after that open the folder with the old Logos and press CTRL+V. After confirming the "Are you sure and confirmation question (regarding the overwrite of existing Logos/Files)" of Windows this will copy all Logos from Rods folder into the folder with the old Logos.

But remember this will overwrite all existing old Logos in the folder that are also available in Rods folder. On the other hand that shouldn't be a problem because Rods folder shall contain all Logos at their newest version.

By the way: It may be necessary to restart RB Software to see all new Logos. If you are also want to use the photo-realistic silhouettes it is definitely necessary to restart RB Software to see the Photo Silhouettes.
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: Blueboy on August 07, 2011, 05:21:02 PM
Hi neroon 79, thanks for that - it worked a treat. I glad you guys don't charge for all this advice - It would cost me a few pounds :)

I'll store that useful wee trick away for future use.

J.D
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: BadWolf on September 24, 2011, 01:34:50 AM
The link provided in the first post of this thread is now outdated. Is there a new location for the updated database, please?
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: Runway 31 on September 24, 2011, 08:41:05 AM
Badwof,

A new Navdata is on test and should be published in a few days

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: BadWolf on September 24, 2011, 01:42:48 PM
Thanks Alan,
some feedback from this morning two hours of so of data capture: The following aircraft do not get an aircraft type <blank> here in the US Midwest and are very common: Canadair CL-600-2D24 Regional Jet CRJ-900; same for CRJ7s and CRJ2s as well); Cessna 750 Citation X; Embraer ERJ 145LR 9 also most Embraers actually); Learjet 45; McDonnell Douglas MD-88; Raytheon Hawker 800XP; McDonnell Douglas MD-82
Less common and did not pick up aircraft type this AM: Mooney M-20R Ovation 2; Mitsubishi MU-2B-26; Jabiru J250-SP; Cessna 525B CitationJet CJ3.
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: neroon79 on September 24, 2011, 02:39:05 PM
BadWolf, this is a long known, anoying problem. You have two choices:
1st You have to manually add the ICAO designator, if you want the silhouettes to be shown.
2nd you have to wait for the next Database Update release.

The following page might be helpful for the adding of the designators: http://www.icao.int/anb/ais/8643/index.cfm
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: Runway 31 on September 24, 2011, 05:54:07 PM
Badwolf,

As Ingo stated when the aircraft is not in the database held on your computer there is a bug which stops the AT being downloaded on occasions.  This means that you have to manually enter it via database explorer.

The bug is well known and will hopefully be weeded out in the next version.  The new database update should be out soon.

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: BadWolf on September 24, 2011, 07:32:57 PM
Understood All,
 I was providing feedback as I experimented with a completely empty database to see what would be populated from the network so that the aircraft listed could be checked they were included in the son to be released db. I spent a few hours doing just that with an ICAO identifier list.
I am well aware this is a lingering issue as I have owned the equipment for a year now and have yet to see signficant database performance issues. Being that this test database hit 1500 entries with nearly 1/3 missing the type, my posted list was offered as feedback from the field.
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: Col on September 25, 2011, 06:29:46 AM
Hi

I tried to download this file but I just get an error message saying that the file may have been moved or is temporarily unavailable.

Has the link changed?
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: neroon79 on September 25, 2011, 08:07:26 AM
The file has been removed, because a new one should be released in a couple of days.

The link provided in the first post of this thread is now outdated. Is there a new location for the updated database, please?

Badwof,

A new Navdata is on test and should be published in a few days

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: neroon79 on September 25, 2011, 08:34:27 AM
Meanwhile I have uploaded the "old" with all new AC I had received since then.

http://rapidshare.com/files/4062227277/NavData.db3
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: GreekSpy2001 on September 25, 2011, 04:07:30 PM
Getting an error trying to click the link above.  Is the server hosting the file up at the moment?

Graham
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: Runway 31 on September 25, 2011, 04:47:42 PM
See 2 or 3 replies up Graham

Alan
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: tarbat on September 26, 2011, 07:55:20 AM
The file has been removed, because a new one should be released in a couple of days.

Maybe it would have been better to leave the current file available for download until the new one was ready.
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: GreekSpy2001 on September 26, 2011, 09:58:05 AM
OK hopefully the new one will stay up long enough for me to remember when I get back from Toulouse on Thursday.

Thanks

Graham
Title: Re: New Navdata.db3 - 20110724
Post by: neroon79 on September 26, 2011, 10:48:23 AM
The file has been removed, because a new one should be released in a couple of days.

Maybe it would have been better to leave the current file available for download until the new one was ready.
Indeed!