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AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com => AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com Discussion => Topic started by: Marinus on March 07, 2008, 01:48:20 PM
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@ Support
Thought at first that auto populate wasn't working for me since
for some Mode S transponders the GAS data is there, but still it
wouldn't show in Radarbox 2007/2008
Have done some exploring, but am I to understand that if no photo's
exist for the registration there will be no auto populate ?
Have done some manual adding in the new Radarbox 2008 database
and that works fine, even if RB is running whilst adding.
Marinus.
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Looks like autopopulate still doesn't work fully, even with ANRB2008. Just had 44022C appear, with no registration. But if I lookup 44022C on GAS, I get OE-GCG, a Cessna 560XL Citation Excel, serial no. 560-5316
ANRB2008 just sits there with "1 Processing Photo/Info Request(s)", but never retrieves the registration details.
Photos exist for this aircraft - http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?front=yes&s=1&keywords=OE-GCG
I thought this was going to be fixed?
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I wonder if this is a time-out issue. If the AirNav server looks at the GAS database and can't get through for some reason, then it doesn't look again - flagged as "no details"?
This must be an AirNav server issue, as RB searches the AirNav server, not the GAS server direct. As we don't know the logic here, we don't know where it is falling down.
I do have some aircraft that stubbornly refuse to populate - RyanAir B737's in particular!
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Yes, it's probably a server issue. Although Airnav support did say on the other autopopulate thread that:
"One of the issues with the 1.3 database was that if you got an aircraft with a mode s and it wasn't found in the database (either cos it timeout or you were not connected to the Internet). It would not update the details later on if they became available unless the aircraft was picked up again via your antenna or network.
1.4 allows you to get round this and force to update all these aircraft."
So, how do we force this update?
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As explained in another post it should be working. There may be times where there is too many requests and some are getting ignored due to load.
You can though still repopulate using MyLog any of the missing enteries.
As you can image with the new version and everyones clean database there will be large load on the servers over the next few days.
We will monitor the situation.
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You can though still repopulate using MyLog any of the missing enteries.
Sorry, I'm being thick. What do I need to do in MyLog to repopulate entries? I've got 8 aircraft from this morning with no registrations, but the only button I can see is "Refresh", and that doesn't attempt to populate the registration.
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There is menu at the top of MyLog on the left which should bring down further functions.
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There is menu at the top of MyLog on the left which should bring down further functions.
It took me a little while to find this too :-)
MyLog Tools gives:
Import from SQB (BaseStation)
Export to CSV
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Populate
Delete old Data
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Empty MyLog Tables
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Close
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There is menu at the top of MyLog on the left which should bring down further functions.
Told you I was being thick!!!! So, I clicked on Populate, I could see it requesting details in the bottom right hand corner, but I still have 8 aircraft from this morning with no registrations - ABEA2B, 50815C, 44022C, 4CA625, AADFE5
Is the AirNav server definately retrieving these details from GAS?
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4CA625 - RyanAir B737 - RB just doesn't like them!
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I see nothing wrong in manualy adding some/all missing registration
that are in the GAS, but it still leaves me with my initial question
will there be no auto populate if there is no existing photo for the missing registration
in the Airliners photo database ??
Marinus.
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4CA626 same thing here Allocator, exists in GAS but no photo in the Airliners database !!
as is the case for EI-DWY (4CA625)
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It should still be added even though a photo is missing.
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OK,
Thx for your swift answer, for now I will manualy add some of these missing
registrations and I´m sure when the load on your servers evens out in the next
weeks thing will be sorted out.....
Marinus.
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To summarise. I've got 8 aircraft without registrations, 5 of which appear on GAS. When I select Populate, I get a message saying "5 Aircraft Updated", which is the same number of aircraft that should be found on GAS.
(http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/774/ppfk9.th.jpg) (http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ppfk9.jpg)
But the registration never appears in Mylog, nor is the Aircraft table updated with the registration on NavData.db3.
Looks like a possible bug to me?
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I can't access airliners.net from where I am at present.
Can somebody check to see if there are pictures for the aircraft that tarbat listed, of if there is only one?
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44022C (OE-GCG) has 5 photos - http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?front=yes&s=1&keywords=OE-GCG
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44022C (OE-GCG) has 5 photos - http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?front=yes&s=1&keywords=OE-GCG
Right, I guess that blows that theory :-(
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To summarise. I've got 8 aircraft without registrations, 5 of which appear on GAS. When I select Populate, I get a message saying "5 Aircraft Updated", which is the same number of aircraft that should be found on GAS.
(http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/774/ppfk9.th.jpg) (http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ppfk9.jpg)
But the registration never appears in Mylog, nor is the Aircraft table updated with the registration on NavData.db3.
Looks like a possible bug to me?
tarbat, an observation here. I think that even if your NavDatad.b3 is updated by "populate", as MyLog has already been written using the data you had at the time, then you won't get the MyLog details filled in.
Try this by manually populating a record by using DataBase Explorer from the File menu, then look at MyLog again - no change, but next time the aircraft appears, the aircraft list will be correct and MyLog for that day will be correct.
I think that there are 2 issues here:
- Populate updates NavData.db3 and not MyLog
- Changes made manually to MyLog do not affect NavData.db3
Not sure if this was how it was intended to work, or if this is a bug.
Question to Support - what exactly does the "Refesh" button in MyLog actually refresh?
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@Support
Have monitored for the last few hours and auto populate is without
doubt working for most aircraft.
Just saw that illusive Mode S 484555 that wouldn't populate in V 1.3
popping up in my flights as PH-BXW and yes when looking in Database
Explorer it also appears there with all the right data fields populated.....
This may add to the confusion, but it definitely is working !!
Marinus.
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Agreed, working for some. Just had 440137 which is on GAS as OE-UDV, a Diamond DA42 Twin Star, but did not populate.
If I could get the Populate option working in MyLog, I'd be happy.
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Yes that would seem to indicate what we said earlier on regarding a load issue either our Servers or GAS. Both will or have been quite busy recentely due to certain changes.
Relax though, they are logged into MyLog and when the system is happier it will be populate them.
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Relax though, they are logged into MyLog and when the system is happier it will be populate them.
Thanks for the quick replies on this. Can you just explain how the re-populate works. Does the Aircraft table get updated in both the MyLog.db3 and NavData.db3 databases at the same time? At the moment these aircraft aren't even getting entered into the NavData database.
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Relax though, they are logged into MyLog and when the system is happier it will be populate them.
Thanks for the quick replies on this. Can you just explain how the re-populate works. Does the Aircraft table get updated in both the MyLog.db3 and NavData.db3 databases at the same time? At the moment these aircraft aren't even getting entered into the NavData database.
tarbat, autopopulate is definitely updating my NavData.db3 file
Just tried it with network 3C6304 - not populated in the aircraft list, not present in NavData.db3
Click on the line in the Network aircraft list, aircraft details appear, and 2 pictures are downloaded.
Checked NavData.db3 using RB Database Explorer, and there it is.
I'll try the same with a live track if I can find one that's not populated - difficult :-)
Edit: However, I'm fairly certain that MyLog is not being autopopulated
Further edit: OK, 3 aircraft from the last hour in MyLog without details:
4051D4, 4CA625, 405634 - all are present in the GAS online database
Hit populate in MyLog, says 20 aircraft to update, but does not populate these 3 aircraft. NavData.db3 checked and these aircraft are still missing.
Manually updated 4CA625 using Database Browser, hit refresh in MyLog and aircraft is updated in MyLog. However, line in aircraft list MyFlights does not show aircraft details - details will appear the next time the aircraft is picked up (after being lost) - does not refresh once detected.
So, all in all, minor snags, but it would be nice to get them sorted.
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Kind of reminds me of the problem with AirNav ACARS decoder. It will not display
any pictures of DASH-8's even though Airliners.net has tons of their pics.
CK
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Kind of reminds me of the problem with AirNav ACARS decoder. It will not display
any pictures of DASH-8's even though Airliners.net has tons of their pics.
CK
I just download the "difficult" pictures manually - easy fix :-)
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guys my manual additions are not being saved - what am I doing wrong?
cheers
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guys my manual additions are not being saved - what am I doing wrong?
cheers
I think that you will find that they are being saved, do a search in the Database Explorer.
What you will find is that the details for that aircraft will not appear in the aircraft lists or on the map until the next time you pick the aircraft up. Make sure that you are entering the details in the "aircraft" table.
Below: 4CA625 added manually
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3048/2317224324_7ca0f3edb4.jpg)
Below: after adding, do a search for 4CA625 and details are in the database.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2141/2316415281_57e69551a5.jpg)
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Tried that and they were not saved. I have a theory that the record is saved until the next time the a/c appears and then it overwrites the amended record. will keep trying.
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Think I have it sorted! thanks
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OK Mark, it should work - keep us informed :-)
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If you do manually enter aircraft details, you can force the aircraft list to update by un-ticking "Get Flight from RadarBox Network" then ticking it again after all the aircraft have disappeared. The list and the map refresh and you will see your manually entered details.
I guess that this will work with live flights too, but as I don't have any that need manually updating, I can't test this :-)
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I just download the "difficult" pictures manually - easy fix :-)
Please tell me more about this fix.
Thanks
Paul
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I just download the "difficult" pictures manually - easy fix :-)
Please tell me more about this fix.
Thanks
Paul
Paul,
If I add an aircraft to the RadarBox database manually using the Database Explorer (in the File Menu), either because autopopulate doesn't want to populate it or if it isn't in the GAS database - then I need to add the photos manually.
To do this, do an Internet search for that aircraft, I find that Google works well. When you find the picture you want, right click on it and "copy" the picture. It will almost certainly be too big unless you have copied from a thumbnail picture. Open your favourite picture editing program and past the picture into it.
Resize the picture to 200 pixels wide, keeping the same aspect ratio so the picture isn't distorted.
Save the picture as a jpg to your Photo directory, this is normally
C:\Program Files\AirNav Systems\AirNav RadarBox 2008\Data\Photo
The naming convention for the photo is "registration.jpg", so for example:
G-VIIC.jpg
And if you save a second picture:
G-VIIC,2.jpg
It takes longer to describe than it does to do. If you did download a thumbnail picture , then you can skip the resize bit.
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My Log File from yesterday, covering from around 1800 - 2359 UTC containing 583 aircraft. I have a few aircraft that aren't populated (15), but the vast majority have been autopoulated with a few manually added.
The list is much better now it is in registration order.
http://www.ruyton.demon.co.uk/Downloads/RadarBoxLog20080308.txt
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Autopopulate is most definitely populating the main aircraft database NavData.db3 for both live and Network tracks.
No problem here at all. Aircraft that are not present in NavData.db3 are there after autopopulation has taken place in the aircraft list.
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I'm still a bit confused about how "Populate" on the MyLog menu is meant to work. The only way I've found to get it to do anything is to:
1. Add all the missing aircraft/registration details to the Aircraft table in Navdata.db3 manually.
2. Select "Populate" on the MyLog menu.
3. It then updates the MyLog with the correct registration, but doesn't download the photos.
If you don't do step 1 (manually update NavData.db3), then "Populate" does nothing.
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I wonder if it's only populating MyLog.db3 from what it finds in NavData.db3?
The "Refresh" button on MyLog does seem to update MyLog.db3 if the aircraft list has been populated since the aircraft was written to MyLog - Modes S code only in aircraft list is written to MyLog, aircraft is then either auotpopulated or manually populated - hit refresh in MyLog and "empty" Mode S only line is updated.
Might be wrong here, but I think this is how it is working?
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And has someone encoutered these ?
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj263/liamer_photos/null_data_RB2008.jpg)
Marinus
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Yes, 96 of them:
(http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/5595/ppyv9.jpg)
The database could certainly benefit from a cleanup of null entries at some point in the future.
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@Tarbat
Which application are you using to edit the database ?
Database Explorer is a pain and I'm still trying to find
a easy way to edit/add data.
Have tried Database browser which was mentioned by Allocator
but I'm still trying to find an application that has more ease of use !
Any suggestions are welcome,
Marinus.
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SQLite Maestro - http://www.sqlmaestro.com/products/sqlite/maestro/.
Free 30-day trial, although I've now purchased it. Brilliant application, especially the Visual Query Builder.
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I've got 95 too - they must have come with the new database as I've merged my beta test SQL database with the one in the release installation.
I've got a total of 79977 records in my aircraft table.
I'm going to back up my NavData.db3 and delete all these and see what happens.
Edit: That's it, they've all gone! RadarBox still runs fine :-)
There are other "null" fields in the database, but these all have at least a registration associated with the Mode S code.
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Tarbat,
Is the inference from your comment that we still cannot add or amend database entries without a third party add-on ?
I have purchased SQLite Maestro and read the manual but am no closer to making sense of it :-(
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Is the inference from your comment that we still cannot add or amend database entries without a third party add-on ?
I have purchased SQLite Maestro and read the manual but am no closer to making sense of it :-(
Not sure where you get that inference from? Anyway, you can still add/amend database entries within Radarbox. It's just that using something like SQLite Maestro makes it a lot easier - in my opinion.
If you're having problems making sense of SQLite Maestro, try the product tour - http://www.sqlmaestro.com/products/sqlite/maestro/tour/
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Tarbat,
Is the inference from your comment that we still cannot add or amend database entries without a third party add-on ?
I have purchased SQLite Maestro and read the manual but am no closer to making sense of it :-(
Roadrunner,
It's easy to add, amend or delete entries in the database using RadarBox. Just go to File | Database Explorer and click Add Record.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3048/2317224324_7ca0f3edb4.jpg)
You can use external SQLite programs if you like. SQLite Database Browser is simple and cheap - SQLite Maestro is very capable and you can do loads with it - and it costs USD 70.21
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Is the inference from your comment that we still cannot add or amend database entries without a third party add-on ?
See here for a guide on how to manually edit the RadarBox 2008 aircraft database:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=548.new#new
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Allocator/Tarbat - Yes I can see that you can manipulate the data from withitn Radarbox, it was the reference to Maestro that got me wondering if you had to have that.......
Just uploaded my Basestation.sqb to Radarbox, whoever, 16,350 records in the .sqb but only 9950+ actually made it into radarbox ?
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Maybe the other 6400 aircraft were already in the Radarbox database?
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Roadrunner, you've got 2 threads running on this now :-)
See my reply about the BaseStation.sqb import on the other thread.
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Because my IQ it's very low level Gentlemen :), finally the solution is the manually import of elements in database from GAS?
(http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5603/populatejy2.th.jpg)
full screen here http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5603/populatejy2.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5603/populatejy2.jpg)
Most of them they are presented in GAS server
Day by day this blank boxes goes more and more.
Thanks for advice
Chris
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Last I heard from Airnav on 26th February, they acknowledged that the GAS link was not working, and that they were waiting for a reply from Gatwick Aviation Society.
Airnav Support, any progress on this? Or are you still waiting for GAS to reply?
It's frustrating that the aircraft details are in the GAS database but they're not getting populated onto the Radarbox servers. After all, Airnav do advertise that "The Aircraft Database is powered by the Gatwick Aviation Society".
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Last I heard from Airnav on 26th February, they acknowledged that the GAS link was not working, and that they were waiting for a reply from Gatwick Aviation Society.
Airnav Support, any progress on this? Or are you still waiting for GAS to reply?
It's frustrating that the aircraft details are in the GAS database but they're not getting populated onto the Radarbox servers. After all, Airnav do advertise that "The Aircraft Database is powered by the Gatwick Aviation Society".
Just back from ATC Global in Amsterdam!
The GAS autopopulate seems to be working fine for me right now, I haven't got any live tracks that need populating, but it's populating network traffic OK.
Just populated the following by selecting them in the list:
502C48
8961A3
E48003
E48008
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The GAS autopopulate seems to be working fine for me right now, I haven't got any live tracks that need populating, but it's populating network traffic OK.
Just populated the following by selecting them in the list:
502C48
8961A3
E48003
E48008
But how do you know that the details came from GAS, and weren't already on the Airnav servers?
I've got all of these that won't populate:
343183
383D1A
3C656C
3E48D1
3EB4B7
43C030
43C03B
43C2F4
473410
484557
48455E
4845AC
503147
A09DEC
A0F958
A33E2E
A3827D
A560F4
A572E9
A7D66B
AE1290
C023AE
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I don't know what happened when i choose "Populate"
A window opens and says (13 Aircraft Updated. Once all pending.... etc)
In low right corner indicate "65 Processing Photo/Info Request(s)"
After a few min of uloads or dloads that ticker info says "All Photo/Info Requests Done"
I make Refresh from button but nothing changed.
What i make wrong?
Same thing again and again
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But how do you know that the details came from GAS, and weren't already on the Airnav servers?
If the details are already in the RadarBox Database, the aircraft line in the aircraft list will have registration details.
If you only have the Mode S code and no registration, click on the aircraft line, wait a few seconds, and the autopopulate will happen - if there is a record for that Mode S in the GAS Database. The autopopulate also populates to RadarBox database so the aircraft details are there when you pick it up next.
Edit: Ahhh....I see your point about the GAS database and the AirNav server - I don't know is the answer here. When I say Gas autopopulate, I should really be saying AirNav server autopopulate I guess.
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It is possible to have a official answer for GAS data server?
The list in MyLog with not received data from GAS is growing up day to day.
The strange thing is those data exist on GAS in most of the cases.
We must input manually this missed data further or not?
Thank you
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Send 5 examples of mode-s with information not refreshed on our database but with data existing on the GAS mode-s list.
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Send 5 examples of mode-s with information not refreshed on our database but with data existing on the GAS mode-s list.
See my list above. Many of those are in GAS, but won't autopopulate. Or has the link to GAS been fixed since I posted that list?
Anyway, try these - all are on GAS, but won't autopopulate in Radarbox:
AE1290 = 87-0024
43C030 = ZE785
A33E2E = N308MS
A3827D = N325SK
A09DEC = N139PG
So, when will the link to GAS be working?
I have nearly 30 aircraft in MyLog that won't autopopulate:
343183, 383D1A, 398902, 3C2909, 3C656C, 3E48D1, 3EB4B7, 405455, 4057F2, 43C030, 43C03B, 43C2F4, 440346, 473410, 473411, 484557, 48455E, 4845AC, 503147, A09DEC, A0F958, A33E2E, A3827D, A560F4, A572E9, A7D66B, ADE5D3, AE1290, C023AE
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Hi and thank you first
They are some mode S examples of my Log in my first page with sorted to mode S.
full on GAS nothing to MyLog
3964E2
3C666C
4240A4
4240A9
4240AD
4240AE
4240D1
43E71D
44026C
49D08B
4A90A7
4CA2EE
and so on
reg only on GAS nothing to MyLog
3DF27A
42405A
3C666C
458D73
45C109
45C10C
4BD1AF
If you like i send you my Log by e-mail for testing
I have also many modeS manual updated
Thank you
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Dear Sirs
Not an answer yet?
You investigate the problem or what?
Thank you for your patience
Chris
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We are looking into it, don't worry :)
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:) :) :)
Thank you!!
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The problems reported on this forum should be corrected. They were related to a glitch on our server software (that gets data from GAS). Please confirm it and let us know.
V1.5 is about to be ready too.
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"should be corrected."
I mean they are totally corrected now. Please confirm.
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Nope or unsuccessfully populate procedures.
No one of my old mode S aircraft data changed.
My today MyLog part of new modeS without GAS data
Generated at 2008/03/18 16:26:14 UTC
Valid for 2008/03/18
272 Aircraft Logged
Mode S Regist Airc Airline Date and Time
3DF27A 2008/03/18 12:47:22 ------- none on GAS
46A285 2008/03/18 15:44:52 ------On GAS only reg SX-HTE
46897A 2008/03/18 09:22:52 ------On GAS only reg SX-BKZ
45C109 2008/03/18 14:02:12 ------On GAS only reg OY-PHI
46C030 2008/03/18 16:21:13 ------On GAS only reg SX-PAP
46807D 2008/03/18 06:19:42 ------none on GAS
46807C 2008/03/18 16:26:13 ------On GAS only reg 4124
469469 2008/03/18 07:56:22 ------On GAS only reg SX-ECI
0100FC 2008/03/18 04:12:52
* 49D0B4 2008/03/18 03:02:02 ------Full on GAS
* 000017 2008/03/18 08:33:52 -----none on GAS
* 4402E1 2008/03/18 14:19:42 -----none on GAS
* 89403A 2008/03/18 12:45:32 -----none on GAS
* 4BCD05 2008/03/18 15:44:42 ------ Full on GAS
* 394C12 2008/03/18 15:20:52 ------On GAS only reg F-GTAS
4680D1 209 E135 Hellenic Air Force 2008/03/18 09:20:42
46812F 303 ... Bulgaria - Air Force 2008/03/18 14:01:02
* 468079 4121 ... Poland - Air Force 2008/03/18 13:51:32
7380A2 4X-EAB B762 El Al Israel Airl... 2008/03/18 00:04:02
7380A6 4X-EAF B762 El Al Israel Airl... 2008/03/18 01:10:02
738096 4X-EBU B752 El Al Israel Airl... 2008/03/18 14:27:42
738072 4X-ECB B772 El Al Israel Airl... 2008/03/18 16:26:12
738074 4X-ECD B772 El Al Israel Airl... 2008/03/18 10:47:02
738076 4X-ECF B772 EL AL Israel Airl... 2008/03/18 08:39:42
Thank you for understanding and also for your hard work
Chris
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Auto populate still doesn't work fully as described also in another topic
Also have following question:
A search for mode s code 76CD62 ( 9V-SKB) comes up empty on GAS,
still this afternoon my database got populated with the correct details !
How is this possible ? and from which server do we get the data ?
is it Airnav's or GAS ?
Regards,
Marinus.
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I mean they are totally corrected now. Please confirm.
Okay, I've tested a couple from MyLog:
AE1290 is 87-0024 on GAS, not found using Tools - Populate in Airnav MyLog.
A33E2E is N308MS on GAS, not found using Tools - Populate in Airnav MyLog.
So, NO, it's still broken. NOTE : This was testing with the beta v1.5 (20080318).
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Still no populate and not receive GAS data for all flights
2nd day of running RB v1.5
My today MyLog and details
Eleven of eighteen today blanc entries must have data compared to GAS server
A5C0D9 - on GAS full details
A37866 - on GAS VT-RLL
894031 - on GAS full details
8003BB - on GAS full details
4BD1AF - on GAS TC-TMO
49D0AF - on GAS full details
46C030 - on GAS SX-PAP
469469 - on GAS SX-ECI
46897A - on GAS SX-BKZ
45C10C - on GAS OY-PHL
405369 - on GAS full details
(http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9897/todaylogxp1.th.jpg)
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9897/todaylogxp1.jpg (http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9897/todaylogxp1.jpg)
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Chris
I was running on network this morning from 8.00 am UTC to 10.00am UTC approx and autopopulate ran like a dream with V1.5. There were several aircraft where no photograph was found on Airliners.net and so no details added to the database. In total I reckon there were in the region of 60 aircraft added in the two hour period.
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AirNav Support, can you give us an update on what progress has been made in getting the link to GAS working. This has been a long-running problem, I reported it nearly a month ago now.
Back on 26th February I was told by Andre that - "GAS link still not working (waiting for GAS reply)". Is that still the status, or is progress being made to get the GAS link working again?
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Tarbat,
At the moment we still think its timeout issues and trying to work a way round this. The changes will be done on our servers.
Whats important is that auto populate is working as the database on our servers is not fully comprehensive and otherwise there would be many empty records. However there are cases where a few aircraft are stubborn and refuse to update.
As we are working with a 3rd party we cannot give you timelengths etc but just to say it is being looked at.
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Okay. I've still got 40 aircraft that won't autopopulate:
343181, 343183, 383D1A, 398902, 3C2909, 3C656C, 3E48D1, 3EB4B7, 405455, 430045, 43C1D0, 43C1D5, 43C2F4, 440346, 473410, 473411, 484557, 48455E, 4845AC, 4B3903, 4CA646, 4CA648, 503147, 748012, 800389, 80041B, A09DEC, A0F958, A2A5E7, A33E2E, A37550, A3827D, A560F4, A572E9, A7D66B, A89BDD, ADE5D3, AE07AA, AE1290, AE1531
I've tried Tools - Populate dozens of times on these, so now I'm going to delete these from MyLog and start with a clean sheet.
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Tarbat,
Arn't some of those in the list Czech aircraft? The reason I sk is that they have been re-allocating their hex numbers and I have various duplicates of Czech registered aircraft as a result. I also know that both registrations/hexes for these duplicates are in GAS. Could that duplication of the registrations, albeit to different hexes, cause them not to be populated. It may not count for all in the list but may explain a few??
Mike
PS I am talking about my data in SBS1 - none of them are duplicated in my RB data....
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Well, just had a Ryanair B737 appear in MyFlights, and it won't populate with registration details. I don't think that's a Czech aircraft?
Its on the GAS database though - hexcode is 4CA644
(http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3178/ppun7.jpg)
Airnav Support, you say that a "few aircraft are stubborn and refuse to update", it seems to affect a lot more than a "few" aircraft. Is there any more information I can provide to help you diagnose and fix this problem - it's been like this for a month now.
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Tarbat,
It is not peculiar to RB. I have some in the SBS1 that GAS will not populated and I have added them manually but I dont think as many as you have listed although I have not been keeping such a close watch on them :-)
Could it be an inadvertent space in the GAS record or the RB record or some such thing ?
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Roadrunner, I accept that they'll always be some that GAS won't populate. But the ones I'm finding won't populate from the Airnav servers, even though the details are on GAS.
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By the moment I have not so much blank entries.
Only 78 -:)
I think tarbat is a good idea i will delete them and start from the beginning again.
I leave my computer running for sharing data in to the network, and when I come back from my work some new blank entries they welcoming me.
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We have just finished some work to try to fix this problem. Can you check it again now?
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Adding to the post above:
The problem is that the system was not accepting data for aircraft that existed in the GAS database but not on airliners.net.
It is possible for the populate feature to have problems in some rare occasions ad odd cases like the one above. Whenever that happens please send us the mode-s that caused it not to work. It is much easy for us to test it with real cases and examples than to program based on general comments.
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Okay, these two mode-s codes still fail to get details when using tools - populate:
4CA644
EI-DYB on GAS (B738 : Boeing 737-8AS : Ryanair :33633)
3C656C
D-AIKL on GAS (A333 : Airbus A330-343X : Lufthansa : 905)
Has a photo on airliners.net - http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?front=yes&s=1&keywords=D-AIKL
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3C656C
D-AIKL on GAS (A333 : Airbus A330-343X : Lufthansa : 905)
Has a photo on airliners.net - http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?front=yes&s=1&keywords=D-AIKL
Actually it has no photo on Airliners, it's new reg is only mentioned in the Remark field, it's reg in the Airliners DB = F-WWYC
Regards,
Marinus.
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Actually it has no photo on Airliners, it's new reg is only mentioned in the Remark field, it's reg in the Airliners DB = F-WWYC
I guess that might explain why the Airnav server has problems with it.
I still don't understand why it can't retrieve the details from GAS even if no photos exist on airliners.net. I want the GAS details downloaded, even without photos from airliners.net.
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Okay, these two mode-s codes still fail to get details when using tools - populate:
4CA644
EI-DYB on GAS (B738 : Boeing 737-8AS : Ryanair :33633)
3C656C
D-AIKL on GAS (A333 : Airbus A330-343X : Lufthansa : 905)
Has a photo on airliners.net - http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?front=yes&s=1&keywords=D-AIKL
Both of these are now fixed and populate okay.
In fact, autopopulate now appears to be working a LOT better. For the first time EVER, all 632 aircraft (except 1) in the Network list of aircraft has registration details. FIXED!
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Okay. I've still got 40 aircraft that won't autopopulate:
343181, 343183, 383D1A, 398902, 3C2909, 3C656C, 3E48D1, 3EB4B7, 405455, 430045, 43C1D0, 43C1D5, 43C2F4, 440346, 473410, 473411, 484557, 48455E, 4845AC, 4B3903, 4CA646, 4CA648, 503147, 748012, 800389, 80041B, A09DEC, A0F958, A2A5E7, A33E2E, A37550, A3827D, A560F4, A572E9, A7D66B, A89BDD, ADE5D3, AE07AA, AE1290, AE1531
I've tried Tools - Populate dozens of times on these, so now I'm going to delete these from MyLog and start with a clean sheet.
tarbat
Could it be that there are issues such as field length / character type incompatabilities between the GAS and RB servers ? Most of my updates to the RB database have been made manually and I have noticed a significant number of fields with swopped data on the GAS server eg the aircraft serial number under the aircraft company and v.v.
I looked for one of your codes (398902) that didn't auotopoulate and found Tie-up extracted from Country Sequence under aircraft type. Do GAS have a flag for releasing a record for autopopulate ? Maybe this one doesn't have it ?
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It works fine at last !!!
Thank you AirNav group
Chris
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@ Airnav,
Indeed confirmation that also for me autopopulate at
the moment works great !!
Regards,
Marinus.
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I still don't understand why it can't retrieve the details from GAS even if no photos exist on airliners.net. I want the GAS details downloaded, even without photos from airliners.net.
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I totally agree. The system needs to be robust enough to update the records even if a photo does not exist. What would happen if you don't want photos? would it preclude any updating?
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Roadrunner: that problem should be corrected now. It will retrieve data from GAS eve if no airliners.net data exists.
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Thats is good :-)
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Sorry to bring this up, but, I've just had a couple of "Tie-up extracted from Country Sequence" messages from Spirit Airlines planes codes A6C07F and A967EB. The first was reporting aircraft type as "Null", and the second as "..." No photos appeared for either one.
Does this mean there's still a problem?
Or is it just me?
Rod
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No, this is not a problem with Radarbox.
Quite a lot of aircraft on GAS have "Tie-up extracted from country sequence". I think it just means that no "human" has provided the details yet, but that a registration can be "guessed" based on the sequence of hexcodes allocated.
(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/7280/gasdv8.th.jpg) (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gasdv8.jpg)
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OK - Thanks for that, Tarbat.
I'd never seen it before (newbie user!) and then two come along at once :-)
Rod
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I am running version 1.3, where is the menu for Mylog. I've clicked on the function but all I get is the log, also in the Radarbox menu. No Tools menu anywhere.
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Download 1.5 from:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/ANRB/ANRB15Setup.exe