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Title: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: AirNav Development on March 06, 2008, 08:34:44 PM
The moment everyone has been waiting for has arrived.
V1.4, now named "AirNav RadarBox 2008" is available for download.

Don't forget that the price of RadarBox has been reduced just GBP 399.95!

Download Link:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/ANRB/anrb14setup.exe (http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/ANRB/anrb14setup.exe)

You do not need to uninstall V1.3. The new version will installed on a totally different folder.

RadarBox 2008 is the most reliable and hi-tech flight tracking software ever developed.
It be considered a totally new application (80% of source code has been changed from V1.3). Any problem reports should be sent to our support at [email protected] or to this forum.

New Main features below:
- All databases in SQLite format - 60% less memory used;
- Totally compatible with all existing available Addons: data share data on port 30003;
- New MyLog feature - almost an application inside another application with reports, alerts, filtering and populate capabilities;
- New Airline Logos - now with over 1200 airline logos;
- Faster application startup and CPU usage reduced in 50%;
- New Alert type based on Squawk;
- New Alert type to execute an external program;
- New startup parameters to automate application usage;
- Pan Map with active flight: easier flight tracking;
- New ADS-B Mode-S filter;

And all the old features that made AirNav RadarBox the most popular mode-s/ADS-B receiver on the market including the unique "AirNav RadarBox Network" with more than 1000 flights shared in peak times.

At AirNav Systems we always accomplish what we promise.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: tarbat on March 06, 2008, 09:04:26 PM
- New startup parameters to automate application usage;

Are these startup parameters documented somewhere?
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: viw on March 06, 2008, 09:05:02 PM
Up and running!

Works perfect, just checking all the new features

Best regards to all Radar Box users and to Airnav!

Gerald
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: jasper37 on March 06, 2008, 09:20:48 PM
i am new user of yesterday but what i can see all looks v good

rgds

Malc  B
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: DaveG on March 06, 2008, 09:48:49 PM
Minor issue I know, but its been like this from first release (at least for me)

On the reporter window the vertical scollbar always sits in the middle no matter where the list is scrolled to, makes it hard to know what part of the list your on.

As I said minor, but very annoying.  Off to carry on playing now :)
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: AirNav Support on March 06, 2008, 09:52:00 PM
Yes its quirk in the programming the GUI, if it was simple to fix we would have done it long ago :)
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: doro on March 06, 2008, 09:53:42 PM
Installed, working. Old charts and Colours imported and resaved seemless.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Pallmall68 on March 06, 2008, 09:54:57 PM
He work well. . It's Christmas
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: f6gsg on March 06, 2008, 10:05:05 PM
Thanks ... all OK
Testing for the Night !!!!
Very good Job

Patrick/F6GSG
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: f6gsg on March 06, 2008, 10:08:06 PM
waouuuuu !!!
And the log time/date with separator what reactivity !!!

Patrick/F6GSG
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: mt007 on March 06, 2008, 10:46:17 PM
Guys,
no screenshots?
For ours dont have yet the RB2008?
Thx.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: tarbat on March 06, 2008, 11:34:22 PM
Guys,
no screenshots?
For ours dont have yet the RB2008?
Thx.

Here's one of the MyLog feature:

(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6537/pptl1.th.jpg) (http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pptl1.jpg)
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: mt007 on March 07, 2008, 12:19:27 AM
Thx, tarbat.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: prbflight on March 07, 2008, 04:14:30 AM
Working great so far.

Is there anyway to import MyLog from ver1.2 or do we start all over?

Thanks

Paul
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: tarbat on March 07, 2008, 08:47:46 AM
- New startup parameters to automate application usage;

Has anyone discovered what these startup parameters are?
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: AirNav Support on March 07, 2008, 08:56:20 AM
Tarbat:

We will write them up and do a FAQ post with them soon as we just realised they are not in the manual.

prbFlight:

Development should get back to you soon on that. The 1.4 install will create a new directory so won't interfer with any previous versions. 
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: defcon333 on March 07, 2008, 11:12:31 AM
hi all, just downloaded and installed the 2008: excellent! you said it's compatible to all add-ons. does this apply to jetvision files too? if so where to put the unzipped files  HELP would be highly appreciated!.
regards  defcon333
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: AirNav Support on March 07, 2008, 11:15:52 AM
Which files do you mean?
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: defcon333 on March 07, 2008, 11:34:39 AM
jetvision has outline and waypoints ( according to the airac cycles) files for e.g. the European theatre, there you can find the corresponding outlines including all necessary info as overlays for e.g. eddm airport.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Allocator on March 07, 2008, 11:39:11 AM
The outline files for the SBS-1 have always worked with RadarBox.

The wpt files will not work, as Radarbox already has its own worldwide waypoint database.

See this link - note that the .out files have to go in the RadarBox Outlines directory and not Out

http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=58.0
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: EINN-07 on March 07, 2008, 11:45:34 AM
Loaded 2008 last night. Well pleased with the result. :)

In the past I've noticed that USAF Herc crews sometimes input flight numbers in longhand. This morning I have REACH31 as opposed to RCH31.
This result is the Aer Arann logo under airline but the USAF roundel under nationality flag. The correct serial shows under registration.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: markyeulett on March 07, 2008, 11:49:21 AM
Thanks Air Nav looks good but couple of questions

What I don't understand if you have direct feeds from Gatwick Aviation - why do I still get Mode S serials displayed with no corresponding Registration etc.

I still do not get any photos in main display?

Also I had a hard disc failure on one of my machines - can I re-install directly from 1.4 or do i need to install 1.3 first?

Thanks
Mark
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Marinus on March 07, 2008, 11:54:59 AM
@ Airnav,

Installed the hew application a few hours ago and it works like a charm

Great new features to play around with and I really like them,

Congrats on a job well done !!

Regards,

Marinus.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: markyeulett on March 07, 2008, 11:55:57 AM
ignore 1st 2 questions as I have worked it out - the mode s that dont tally are missing in GAS and pictures now coming up - brilliant!! thanks

answer on s/w upgrade appreceiated :-)
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: AirNav Support on March 07, 2008, 11:59:26 AM
You can install from 1.4 with any issue. Glad you said to ignore Question 1 and 2 as we were about to tear our hair out in panic.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Allocator on March 07, 2008, 12:03:09 PM
Loaded 2008 last night. Well pleased with the result. :)

In the past I've noticed that USAF Herc crews sometimes input flight numbers in longhand. This morning I have REACH31 as opposed to RCH31.
This result is the Aer Arann logo under airline but the USAF roundel under nationality flag. The correct serial shows under registration.

I have the same problem with the RAF VC10 fleet.  The crew often put TART12 in for TARTAN 12 so I get the Tunis Air Logo.

As I'm not interested in the Tunis Air flights, I've renamed the TAR.bmp file in Logos to TAR.bmp.old and saved my own 101 Sqn logo as TAR.bmp.

Of course, this does mean that the Tunis Air aircraft will have a VC10 logo, but I don't see many of them anyway.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Roadrunner on March 07, 2008, 12:46:17 PM
AirNav loaded new version and all was working well but I seem to lock up every time I try and use a drop down menu!. For example I wanted to remove the Outlines option from the current map and set station names to on. It took 4 or 5 seconds to go to each menu and then stuck at the final hurdle (station names) I have had to Con/Alt/del my way out of the program. I am running Vista
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Allocator on March 07, 2008, 12:57:22 PM
Roadrunner,

Are you running with an internet connection, or are you working stand-alone.  If so, try deselecting "Share data".
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: AirNav Support on March 07, 2008, 02:22:22 PM
RoadRunner,

It has been tested on the Vista with no issues so we are suprised by this. Make sure you had admin rights set for the programme, also monitor your cpu usage via the task manager. Is is very high?

Also note, if you turned all the features and have decreased the update time then turn a few down.

One a side note, more than half of the users connected to the network have 1.4 which is great to see.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: steveb25 on March 07, 2008, 03:37:26 PM
I am having a similiar problem to Roadrunner. If I turn sharing off it seems to go back to normal speed, but with sharing on it stutters, and any action seems to take a long time. It has crashed (frozen) on me quite a few times and as Roadrunner says the only option is to close and restart.

 I am using XP pro.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: AirNav Support on March 07, 2008, 03:38:52 PM
Ok, we will once again take a look at sharing issue and get a fix.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: steveb25 on March 07, 2008, 03:42:18 PM
Thanks guys

That is sure a fast response. Apart from above with sharing the product is excellent. A credit to a fine team and superb service.

Thanks very much
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Allocator on March 07, 2008, 03:46:32 PM
I am having a similiar problem to Roadrunner. If I turn sharing off it seems to go back to normal speed, but with sharing on it stutters, and any action seems to take a long time. It has crashed (frozen) on me quite a few times and as Roadrunner says the only option is to close and restart.

 I am using XP pro.

The only time I have had this problem in the past, is when my Internet connection has been on the blink.  I live a fair distance from the telephone exchange, and when the connection starts to drop out, then the problem occurs.

To test this, disconnect your PC from the internet, run RB and deselect "share data" and see if the problem still occurs.  Do run RB for an hour or so to see the results.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Peter on March 07, 2008, 03:47:57 PM
Same here as well using XP. I had to keep giving it the 3 fingered salute so decided that it was essential to close down with sharing disabled. I like the light coloured map screen with airfield labels turned on, re-starting with sharing turned off allows me to use the drop down menus for these selections without crashing it! Sharing can then be turned back on when it has settled down.

Peter
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: davis on March 07, 2008, 04:46:42 PM
Confirm to  record  my traffic must disable network?
 Confirm with 1.4 not possible edit fix point????
 Everything else is OK for now

 ciao Gianni - Italy
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: markyeulett on March 07, 2008, 04:47:51 PM
Back again

cant work out the GAS update piece - see attached screenshot with a number of smodes having no tie up registration (this PC is not internet connected - does that make a difference?) - I have nother machine that is internet connected - that seems to do same thing.

Also how do I save changes to my log - have edited a number of entries and on close down / start up of application they are lost - it appears that teh master file data overwrites the changes when a new alert is picked up by the box?

Thanks
Mark

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Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: markyeulett on March 07, 2008, 04:57:26 PM
sorry to be bearer of bad news  but has locked up on me with egg timer ticking away 3 times in last 30 mins?
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: markyeulett on March 07, 2008, 05:06:53 PM
Here are another couple :-

- every time I switch sharing off - it re-enables on start up?
- the File dropdown only works once - on the 2nd selection it freezes.  You cn get it to dissapear by movin to a new appliction but on returning to RB2008 the File drop down is disabled.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: AirNav Support on March 07, 2008, 05:10:18 PM
Mark,

We assume your issue like the others occurs when you are not connected to the internet or have a bad connection?

Lots of posts coming on the forum at the moment can we please ask users to read past posts and NOT to repost questions if they are in one thread to a new post as it makes it more confusing to us.

We will answer your questions so bare with us :)
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Allocator on March 07, 2008, 05:49:02 PM
cant work out the GAS update piece - see attached screenshot with a number of smodes having no tie up registration (this PC is not internet connected - does that make a difference?) - I have nother machine that is internet connected - that seems to do same thing.

Mark, there is a separate thread running at the moment regarding GAS update.  I think that we should keep this one to the freezing problem.

see here:

http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=534.0

But yes, you do need an Internet connection to get the GAS registration autopopulate, as this information comes from the AirNav Server.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Allocator on March 07, 2008, 05:51:16 PM
Confirm to  record  my traffic must disable network?
 Confirm with 1.4 not possible edit fix point????
 Everything else is OK for now

 ciao Gianni - Italy

Gianni, all your live traffic is recorded in MyLog - not network traffic.  You do not need to turn off Network taffic to record your traffic.

No, it's not possible to edit fix points, as these are built in to the AirNav world database - maybe the next release?
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: markyeulett on March 07, 2008, 06:36:59 PM
thanks allocator - is there any way to manually update from a machine witgh internet to a machine without?

thanks
Mark
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Allocator on March 07, 2008, 06:47:08 PM
thanks allocator - is there any way to manually update from a machine witgh internet to a machine without?

thanks
Mark

Mark, manual yes, but automatic no.

On the PC with Internet, goto the Gatwick Aviation Society website Mode S lookup:

http://www.gatwickaviationsociety.org.uk/modeslookup.asp

Enter the Mode S you see in RadarBox e.g. 400A14

Click find

Now use the RadarBox Database Explorer in the File Menu

Select table: aircraft

Select: Add Record

This will allow you to add one record at a time - slow but it does work.  Running RadarBox with an Internet connection will do this automatically.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: markyeulett on March 07, 2008, 07:11:07 PM
thanks allocator
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Roadrunner on March 07, 2008, 07:20:40 PM
Sorry for the delay in responding to the questions. The PC I have is brand new 1gb ram running Vista. The only programs loaded (other then the few on it when I got it) is Radarbox 2008. I am connected to the internet and that connection was working. I deleted all references to the V1.3 and reloaded 2008 and it seems? to be working OK for the last few hours. 

Just one point for AirNav. I do not want, or expect to have to do such as turning off certain aspects of 2008 just to get it to run. My PC is twice as fast as the laptop that it used to run on and with twice the RAM - the only unknown for me is this Vista system.......
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: AirNav Support on March 07, 2008, 08:00:06 PM
RoadRunner,

Your computer will easily handle the full features. So far the only issue we have had that you describe is when you are not connected to the net or having connection problems. Was that the case with you earlier?
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Spaice on March 07, 2008, 08:08:04 PM
Hi Guys,

Downloaded the new software, and I have to say great work, all seems to work well so far and the new features are good, although should have been there in the first place, particularly the database and export facilities.  Keep up the good work, and thanks to all those that have been beta testing and providing Airnav the feedback that helped the develepment team provide us with what we wanted.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Allocator on March 07, 2008, 08:11:52 PM
Just one point for AirNav. I do not want, or expect to have to do such as turning off certain aspects of 2008 just to get it to run. My PC is twice as fast as the laptop that it used to run on and with twice the RAM - the only unknown for me is this Vista system.......

This is my main Pc which must be a couple of years old now.  Nothing special about it other than a fairly new graphics card and 1 GB of Ram.  It run RadarBox very nicely thanks.  I tend to have the Refresh rate at 4000 miliseconds as I think that it gives a more realistic display.

Where I do have problems, is when my internet connection goes down, or hesitates.  RadarBox runs excellently on my laptop without an internet connection.  I think it's that grey area when you are running RadarBox with Internet, and then the connection glitches and you get problems.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2023/2316531689_ab961e47ec.jpg)
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Spaice on March 07, 2008, 08:31:51 PM
I notice that the dist/NM has dissapeared from the bottom of the reporter screen.  It was displayed under the numer Msgs/Sec.  I have checked preferences but unable to locate a way to turn the feature on, or I could be missing something here, it's been a long day.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Allocator on March 07, 2008, 08:48:18 PM
I notice that the dist/NM has dissapeared from the bottom of the reporter screen.  It was displayed under the numer Msgs/Sec.  I have checked preferences but unable to locate a way to turn the feature on, or I could be missing something here, it's been a long day.

I don't remember that - do you mean the reporter screen, or at the bottom of the RadarBox window?

You can see the range and bearing of aircraft with positions in the aircraft list if set in Preferences
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: EINN-07 on March 07, 2008, 08:52:45 PM
A few other things that need to be checked in order to speed up RB operation that worked very well for me with V1.3 :

Have a good look at the 'Processes' tab on Task Manager. Don't just look at what RB is using. I found out that a recent Windows automatic update had 'very kindly' and without my knowledge added a program called 'Windows Defender' which is a full blown Internet security and AV program.
Prior to this I had the dreaded ( yellow and black ) AV and Internet Security application running. The two of these applications were fighting for RAM and double - double checking everything that went on between the PC and the 'net.

The 'Yellow and Black' application recently offered an upgrade to the 2008 package FOC prior to my subscription ending. When I tried to upgrade I ended up with neither the 2007 verison NOR(ton) the 2008 version. They should contact Airnav to see how to offer a glitch free upgrade !!

Anyway, after researching AV packages I got rid of both Defender and the other and bought a new ultra-low-RAM-using AV and Internet security package which has speeded up my PC no end.

In addition if your PC is anything over a year old it is well worth getting a PC tune up package. They cost buttons and will give a good spring clean to your PC. This will give a significant boost to performance.

Put the two of these together and I ended up with a 5 year old PC with 256mB of RAM running XP sp2  that is more than happy with Radarbox.

This is what worked for me. Caveat Emptor and all that.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Spaice on March 07, 2008, 08:55:59 PM
At the bottom of the Radarbox Window, where the LAt/Long and Msgs are displayed, on the previous version if I highlighted one of the aircraft in the radar window, it would display distance / NM from my home location.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: FFM on March 07, 2008, 08:57:41 PM
I do have the same problem as steveb25 and roadrunner. I have set the update intervall to 5000 ms and still it does take a long time to open any menu - sometimes over 20 seconds...
I am using XP, 1,8 Mhz CPU
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: FFM on March 07, 2008, 09:01:17 PM
How can the feature Spaice is describing be turned on?
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: AirNav Support on March 07, 2008, 09:04:21 PM
FFM,

Can you confirm you are not connected to the internet when these issues occur?
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: FFM on March 07, 2008, 09:08:54 PM
Yes, I am not connected to the internet and I have unchecked share network flights...
Is there anything else I can tune to speed up the application?
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Allocator on March 07, 2008, 09:14:14 PM
Yes, I am not connected to the internet and I have unchecked share network flights...
Is there anything else I can tune to speed up the application?

Are you running any other programs at the same time?  How much RAM do you have?
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: FFM on March 07, 2008, 09:20:37 PM
No other programs are running - except the OS.
The PC does have only 256 RAM. Is that a problem?
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Roadrunner on March 07, 2008, 09:22:26 PM
RoadRunner,

Your computer will easily handle the full features. So far the only issue we have had that you describe is when you are not connected to the net or having connection problems. Was that the case with you earlier?

No the problem with hanging up occurred while I was connected to the Network and downloading pictures. I have subsequently deleted 2008 and V1.3 and reloaded 2008 and it appears to be behaving.  I have NTL broadband 20mb connection and regularly have SBS1 running on one PC with Planeplotter and radarbox on the new PC (prior to that v1.3 on laptop) all via the same modem.

I will let it run for a few more hours and see if anything occurs and if it does I will try and note everything that is running at the time.

Can you confirm that I must always connect as administrator with this latest, and all future versions of RB ? Is it a Vista issue ?
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Allocator on March 07, 2008, 09:25:08 PM
No other programs are running - except the OS.
The PC does have only 256 RAM. Is that a problem?

256 mb RAM might be a bit tight, your PC will have to read and write to the hard disk quite often and this will slow everything down.  How much space do you have left on your hard drive?

Memory is very cheap right now, and you can never have enough!  Of course, you have to figure out just what type you need which I always find a bit of a pain as they keep changing the size/sockts/type.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: AirNav Support on March 07, 2008, 09:27:11 PM
There should be no problem then. RB does not take up more than 80mb of RAM when pushed too its limits. You didn't mention your Proccessor speed,

However here are a few things which will help if you are on a slow machine:

1.) Reduce Screen Refresh Rate (In Preferences)
2.) Reduce amount of detail on Maps
3.) Select one picture download only
4.) Unselect viewing the vertical tracking view
5.) Unshow photo and details
6.) Untick network flights

Obviously you don't need to do all the above, they are just choices and what will have an affect if you turn them off.

RoadRunner:

Yes we hope to correct that in later versions. Its not a RB fault but a Vista issue which you have to rectify in order to get round Vistas security settings.

1.3 Would have not interfered with 2008 so it may just have been connection drop and you were unlucky.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Roadrunner on March 07, 2008, 09:29:54 PM
We will keep watching !

It is nice at last to have a list of aircraft to start with when starting each day - and one that is growing !
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: FFM on March 07, 2008, 09:37:04 PM
Hello Airnav Team,

Thanks for the information. I have unchecked some more map details and it works OK (not fast). But I can live with it :)

Thanks for adding the "execute file" option by the way...!
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: AirNav Support on March 07, 2008, 09:39:01 PM
Can you tell us proccesor speed? (FFM)
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Spaice on March 07, 2008, 09:43:08 PM
Allocator,

I have gone back to the previous version and the disance is displayed as previously mentioned, so I will take a screen shot and post it here tomorrow, I would do it now but im running the RB on a mac running windows wth a mac key board and so no print screen key.  will connect microsoft keyboard tomorrow for that purpose.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: kazandlee on March 07, 2008, 10:19:46 PM
Just downloaded update, thing is, my polar diagram is vertualy nil, when i start up useing old version icon, its ok, what am i doing wrong?

Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Allocator on March 07, 2008, 10:27:31 PM
Just downloaded update, thing is, my polar diagram is vertualy nil, when i start up useing old version icon, its ok, what am i doing wrong?



The polar diagram will be nil until you have received a load of aircraft, say for at least one hour.  It will build up as aircraft are received.

When you start using your old icon, you are loading RadarBox 2007, not 2008.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: steveb25 on March 07, 2008, 10:52:33 PM
Can I just get a re-cap. The freezing problem that some of have been having are we still saying that it is an issue with the file sharing and airnav are looking into to it?

Sorry for this but have been away for most of the day, and it is still happening here whether i'm connected or not, file shar on & off
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: AirNav Support on March 07, 2008, 10:59:38 PM
Steveb25 and all,

Let me just clarify so far we have seem to found a issue with data sharing being on when you are either not connected to the Internet or whether the Internet or wireless has dropped temporally.

However this is yet to be confirmed as the earlier posts don't seem to confirm it fully. We are doing testing of this as well.

Furthermore we will be watching for any bug reports, issues over the the next week and then create an update within a few weeks of that.

-- A quick test we pulled a wireless card out of a laptop running RB and also disconnecting the router when the card was in while RB was sharing and it matched the issue seen by some customers.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: steveb25 on March 07, 2008, 11:04:59 PM
Thanks guys

It is a great comfort to know that you guys are on the ball.

Many thanks for the update, just thought that after the rush of messages it might help to get it straight from the horses mouth, as they say.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: EINN-07 on March 08, 2008, 12:34:24 AM
There should be no problem then. RB does not take up more than 80mb of RAM when pushed too its limits. You didn't mention your Proccessor speed,

However here are a few things which will help if you are on a slow machine:

1.) Reduce Screen Refresh Rate (In Preferences)
2.) Reduce amount of detail on Maps
3.) Select one picture download only
4.) Unselect viewing the vertical tracking view
5.) Unshow photo and details
6.) Untick network flights


Support

My earlier post on this seems to have gone over people's heads. I have a 5 year old PC with 256mB of RAM and RB is a happy bunny BUT this wasn't the case from day 1.

If someone with anything older than a new PC is not regularly 'cleaning' their PC, especially getting rid of temporary internet files, any application, such as RB  requiring significant processor load and internet access,  will slow the machine down so bad that it will struggle to keep up. In fact, RB is a good gauge of your PC's health.

Until the PC is tuned up and has all the junk stripped out, including replacing RAM sapping anti virus software with less demanding products you can tick and untick all the boxes you like in RB and it won't make a blind bit of difference.

Just Google your anti virus software and it won't take too long to see what problems it's capable of producing.

My machine has a 2.8GHz P4 with 256 mB RAM and ran all day today on V1.4 from 7.00 am to 11.00 pm, sharing data, downloading 2 photos with not so much as a skipped heartbeat and I would say that there hasn't been a big improvement in performance speed over V1.3. If people are having problems with slow running of RB look elsewhere - as far as I am concernced the program runs fine, even on my old crock.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: ChrisGR on March 08, 2008, 12:45:28 AM
The wheel guys
The mouse wheel don't work again to zooming in and out.
Like 1.3 to 1.4 again.
Only the first time works and if i click to interface panel and return to map not work for zooming.
Just scrolling a red box in to interface panel.
Works again if i open a new window (any window) over RB.

Any help ?
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: AirNav Support on March 08, 2008, 12:59:34 AM
Flyhigh:

Wheel mouse has been noted now. It wasn't noted from 1.3.

EINN-07:

Behind the scenes especially the level of ram has reduced significantly.  For areas with medium to high traffic this is noticeable.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: ChrisGR on March 08, 2008, 01:08:51 AM
Flyhigh:

Wheel mouse has been noted now. It wasn't noted from 1.3.


And what means this if you have the kindness you explain to me

Thank you
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: AirNav Support on March 08, 2008, 01:10:46 AM
We will take a look and try it fixed on the next update. We meant you mentioned that it was in 1.3, we don't have bug reports listed for 1.3 regarding. It may be that it was missed by mistake.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: ChrisGR on March 08, 2008, 01:13:49 AM
It's perhaps not your fault.
But the beta testers where has the mind?
Only in bright data base  :)

Thank you for your answer :)
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Allocator on March 08, 2008, 07:21:28 AM
It's perhaps not your fault.
But the beta testers where has the mind?
Only in bright data base  :)

Thank you for your answer :)

My mind is fine thank you :-)

I never use the mouse scroll wheel for zooming, I either use the +/- buttons on the menu bar, or I right click on the map and draw a box around the area I want to zoom to.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: walfisch on March 08, 2008, 07:28:26 AM
Hello Airnav-Team.
All parameters that I use in RB works well ! Thank you very much for your hard work trough the last some weeks.
First I had some error-messages, when I let the v. 1.3 in the program files, but since I clean out completely the old version from my Vista HP, and make a install of only ANRB 2008 - it runs like a number one!

Walt
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Marinus on March 08, 2008, 08:15:14 AM
I notice that the dist/NM has dissapeared from the bottom of the reporter screen.  It was displayed under the numer Msgs/Sec.  I have checked preferences but unable to locate a way to turn the feature on, or I could be missing something here, it's been a long day.

Above feature is also something I'm missing deerly in RB2008, maybe
in a furure update it can be reinstated ?
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Allocator on March 08, 2008, 08:23:03 AM
The range data is available in the aircraft list, and you can sort it too! (although I notice now that it doesn't quite sort correctly)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2258/2317545303_871a36e537.jpg)
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: tarbat on March 08, 2008, 08:58:53 AM
It's perhaps not your fault.
But the beta testers where has the mind?

My mind is fine as well.  I tested the mouse wheel in the beta, it works great for scrolling up and down the aircraft list.  Isn't that what it's supposed to do?  I had no idea it was meant to zoom the map!
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Marinus on March 08, 2008, 09:57:21 AM
@ Allocator

I know the information is there to find, but that requires me several
mouse operations, whilst in version 1.3 pointing the mouse pointer
over the aircraft label enabled me to see this information directly without
the extra required mouse actions.......

(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj263/liamer_photos/distance_bearing_V13.jpg)


Regards,

Marinus.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Allocator on March 08, 2008, 10:01:16 AM
Marinus,

I see your point.  I'm sure that it can't be difficult to put this feature back in - maybe for the next update?
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: tarbat on March 08, 2008, 10:03:52 AM
I guess Airnav lost the distance/bearing info. when they put the Hardware:Connected status at the bottom of the screen.

Agreed though, it would be nice to have distance/bearing back.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: ChrisGR on March 08, 2008, 10:24:47 AM
It's perhaps not your fault.
But the beta testers where has the mind?
Only in bright data base  :)

Thank you for your answer :)

My mind is fine thank you :-)

I never use the mouse scroll wheel for zooming, I either use the +/- buttons on the menu bar, or I right click on the map and draw a box around the area I want to zoom to.

Yes of curse draw a box with a mouse. For zooming. For minimize is useless this method.
The wheel it's most easiest way anyway for me. But for now just his scroll a useless box. 

It's perhaps not your fault.
But the beta testers where has the mind?

My mind is fine as well.  I tested the mouse wheel in the beta, it works great for scrolling up and down the aircraft list.  Isn't that what it's supposed to do?  I had no idea it was meant to zoom the map!


I did not accuse your brains. :)
I say you give perhaps more attention to new database.
The RB program however is not only the database.
Important is also his smooth operation.

I feel sorry if were hurt somebody of my written.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Allocator on March 08, 2008, 10:59:43 AM
Quote
I feel sorry if were hurt somebody of my written.

No problem flyhigh, we know that you are only having fun :-)

Just imagine the problems that the beta testers for the Airbus software have - you don't want any bugs there!
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Roadrunner on March 08, 2008, 11:03:37 AM
Airnav,

Regarding the freezing I was having. I think I might have found the problem. Since connecting to the new PC I have been using an external USB wireless connector to my router and it was connected via a powered external USB 2.0 hub.  I have changed it to the rear PC direct connection and the prgram is a lot more stable and all the menus etc appear to operate normally. Maybe that was my problem an unstable internet connection. I am getting a Netgear WPNT 121 240mb connector from early next week - already use one on other PC and never have problems with that :-)
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: DaveR on March 08, 2008, 11:11:37 AM
Don't know what I've done different but the scroll wheel seems to work on RB 2008 on my PC.  Need to make sure I've clicked on the map first though.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Roadrunner on March 08, 2008, 11:26:34 AM
Just as an aside to all the above, at this moment I am picking up 892 aircraft according to the Network list with timeouts set at 180 seconds !!!!!!
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: AirNav Support on March 08, 2008, 12:47:35 PM
Roadrunner,

Yes its likely that the issue. A couple of posts back explains the issue further and what we are doing.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: doro on March 08, 2008, 01:45:14 PM
We have two machines and two Radarboxes running for 24h+ without problems.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: AirNav Support on March 08, 2008, 01:49:01 PM
Great to hear. We have nearly everyone who connects to the network have upgraded and we have had no support issues emailed to us.

There has just been the few customers with issues with poor net connections or wireless drop out. That is being looked into. Otherwise so far so good :)
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: radarphil on March 08, 2008, 02:19:03 PM
hi there just downloaded v1.4 excelentworking great ,worth the wait,but i have downloaded the utilites from the bones site for airfields and vors ect and doncaster is located on the screen but no ident on the position and aslo how do u change the colour of the extended lines on the screen it works fine with the airports already loaded on the RB but the add ons the colour wont change.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Allocator on March 08, 2008, 02:26:49 PM
Use File | Preferences | Map colours

Click on the coloured box to change the color, then click Apply or OK.  If you want to save your colour scheme, you will need to "export" the colour file so it appears in your drop down colour schemes.  The colours you want to change are Runway Background and/or Runway Extension.

The VOR's and waypoints from Bones site will not work, as RadarBox has it's own database of nav aides.  All the outlines for airspace and airfields will work OK though.

Take a look at the manual (page 57 - Map Colors), this is covered in detail.
Title: Re: AirNav RadarBox 2008 - New Version RELEASED
Post by: Yoda on March 08, 2008, 05:58:52 PM
Hi all at AirNav. Installed v1.4 last night and it is looking good. Used it at Manchester today and noticed the slow running with "Share Flights" selected. Deselect and performance improves. One question, how do I get the "Share Data" function to default to unselected on startup. I've tried saving map but it doesn't work.