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AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com => AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com Discussion => Topic started by: iceman on June 30, 2007, 01:11:20 PM

Title: Screen shot's
Post by: iceman on June 30, 2007, 01:11:20 PM: Hello:

Here are some screen shot´s. Pse beware that i have my "timeout" at 60 seconds.
(click on the image)

Great and amasing time since i got my RadarBox 5 days ago!

Iceman
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Title: Re: Screen shot's
Post by: A350 on June 30, 2007, 01:44:29 PM: Hello iceman,
what are the little yellow "points" in the second map?

cheers,
A350
Title: Re: Screen shot's
Post by: iceman on June 30, 2007, 02:24:55 PM: Hello A350:

The little yellow points on the second map are the FIX points . They don´t show on the first one because they are turned off on the preferences.

Thanks
Iceman
Title: Re: Screen shot's
Post by: CanadaKen on June 30, 2007, 03:10:42 PM: Quote from: iceman on June 30, 2007, 02:24:55 PM
The little yellow points on the second map are the FIX points

Waypoints?

CK
Title: Re: Screen shot's
Post by: iceman on June 30, 2007, 04:29:53 PM: Yes, waypoints (they apear on "aviation signs" as FIX).
This is a more zoomed picture. At this level the names appears.

Iceman

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Title: Re: Screen shot's
Post by: b744 on July 01, 2007, 05:54:20 PM: Iceman, would you explain why some aircraft on your screenshot have no reg in the label such as the 2 Globespan and EasySwiss aircraft. These are well known and documented tie ups but not in the Radarbox database ?? Some of the labels appear squashed, so is that why the reg data is not visible ??
Would love to see the system first hand but any info you can give is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Title: Re: Screen shot's
Post by: prbflight on July 01, 2007, 08:52:44 PM: Yes! Anything would be great. More screenshots or whatever. Thanks.

Paul@cyyb
Title: Re: Screen shot's
Post by: AirNav Support on July 01, 2007, 09:48:51 PM: Hi b744,

The labels do not contain as much data as the others as the database does not have the aircraft in the database. As you can imagine keeping the database up to date is a large task but with more users we should be able tie up any ones we have missed etc..
Title: Re: Screen shot's
Post by: iceman on July 02, 2007, 08:15:14 PM: Hi b744:
Sorry for the delay. I think that you have already the answer. Yes there are some MS codes that de reg is unknown to the software, but its easy to put them on the database if you find it on the internet. In my opinion the radarbox is fantastic and the software is great, dispite one or two things that must be corrected and improved. The interface is very similar to the other airnav software. Today i´m posting 3 screens. One of the complete screen and two only from the radar part. They are consecutive in time only the map changes.

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Title: Re: Screen shot's
Post by: viw on July 02, 2007, 09:06:59 PM: Hello Iceman,

what Antenna do you use and where is it mounted?
You seem to have a very good range with your equipment.

I ordered my radar box last week and hope to get it the next days.

Best regards
Gerald
Title: Re: Screen shot's
Post by: iceman on July 02, 2007, 09:21:57 PM: Hello Gerald:

I´m using the antenna that came with radarbox, mounted outside my balcony. But there is on trick ... if you put one piece of metalic narrow wired mesh (28cm x 28cm ) you have almost 15% more range.

Iceman
Title: Re: Screen shot's
Post by: iceman on July 03, 2007, 08:01:17 PM: One more day... one more "radar" screen shot. Today as been raining all day long so the "range" is not so amazing.
I have my "network" off, as on all others images, so is only the trafic that i catch with my RadarBox.
It´s fantastic and easy system. Thanks Airnav!

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Iceman
Title: Re: Screen shot's
Post by: piper-pilot on July 04, 2007, 10:31:13 AM: Can I just point out generally when it rains the aircraft go above the rain cloud so they are up higher. You should therefore see more aircraft not less.
That is what happens with my receiver
Title: Re: Screen shot's
Post by: AirNav Support on July 04, 2007, 01:21:20 PM: There is some information that in when its raining and especially if your antenna is outside in the elements the reception could be affected (not proved or disproved) Some people display different results as under certain atmospheric conditions radio waves travel further.

Regarding aircraft: RadarBox is his picture is mostly picking up commercial airlines and they won't be to worried about a rain cloud and usually go through it unless its really heavy and turbulent.
Title: Re: Screen shot's
Post by: iceman on July 04, 2007, 01:40:49 PM: Hello piper-pilot:
Atmosferic conditions interferes in radio comunications. If your talk about Low Frequencies you may experiment a slight increase on distance. But if you are talking about Ultra Hi Frequencies is the reverse. The clouds and the rain are harder to penetrate (resistence) and introduces more attenuation and dispersion, as you can confirm with (at least) your satelite reception.
So if you live near an airport and catching low altitude flight (under the clouds) the diference is not significant, even a slight increase may be noticed. But when talking about high flights the attenuation increases.
I am a man devoted, long time ago, to comunications... and i have lot of experience on this matter. And i think, looking to your email adress ;) that also are you.

Sorry for my English.

73
Iceman
Title: Re: Screen shot's
Post by: CanadaKen on July 04, 2007, 02:04:05 PM: Watch this site. Chose your area of the world in the top left corner of the page.
This monitors VHF/UHF "tunneling". It seems quite accurate for me on the west coast of North
America. This should give you an idea when your RadarBox or SBS-1 range will improve.
At times the increase can be fairly dramatic.

http://www.dxinfocentre.com/tropo_eur.html (http://www.dxinfocentre.com/tropo_eur.html)

CK
Title: Re: Screen shot's
Post by: iceman on July 04, 2007, 02:17:27 PM: HI CanadaKen:

Thanks for pointing me the Hepburn's site.
As i told on the other post i´m , since long time ago, a "comunications addict" ...
That site is, indeed, a valuable toll, but not for this frequencies (1090 Mhz) ...
Thanks again

Iceman
Title: Re: Screen shot's
Post by: CanadaKen on July 04, 2007, 02:43:09 PM: Quote from: iceman on July 04, 2007, 02:17:27 PM
but not for this frequencies (1090 Mhz) ...
Those charts are used as high as 1001.75mhz...not too far from 1090mhz.

CK
Title: Re: Screen shot's
Post by: iceman on July 04, 2007, 02:57:49 PM: Hi CanadaKen:

Yes not to faar. But almost 90mhz is a lot of diference believe (more than 3 x the entire HF band!).
Anyway when the condictions are "the best" the range will, sporadically, improve.

Eavy clouds and intensive rain are not the best conditions to receive 1,09Ghz signals, thats for sure.

Iceman
Title: Re: Screen shot's
Post by: piper-pilot on July 06, 2007, 11:43:44 AM: Hi Guys

I fully understand ducting etc. I can show you logs over the last 18 months that show with out exception that when it rains I see more aircarft and further away. While I agree that commercial stuff may not need to go above the rain clouds ask the pilots they usually do. Here in the UK we have had our fair share of rain over the last couple of months and now it has subsided we are getting customers complaining of less range. My usual set up is BS-1000 with AS1105 High gain whip plus an Elad preamp.

Us radio hams use a propagation mode called cloud scatter to bounce signals around and further on 1.3ghz,10gHz and I used to do similar on the now abandonned 934mHz band. In fact we have been known to bounce signals off of many strange objects to increase the horizon on line of sight bands.

So I stand by my original comment I usually see further when it rains

Chris
Title: Re: Screen shot's
Post by: iceman on July 10, 2007, 10:26:43 AM: Hi to all:

One more screen shot. This time showing the Portugueses aerospace, for the 1st time inteirely covered. Also the 1st image with flights from network.

Regards
Iceman

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