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Title: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: radarphil on January 27, 2008, 08:40:45 PM
please can anyone give me any reasons why the rotating radar in the right hand side of the screen stops and starts,the aircraft on screen also stop moving as wellonly for a second or 2.i would be greatfull of any input or recomendations. or reasons.
regards phil
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: AirNav Support on January 27, 2008, 09:11:43 PM
Hi Phil,

Not sure why you locked your own post, Anyway I have unlocked it now. Whats the proccesor speed of your machine, is it very slow opening up the menus in RadarBox 2007?
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: radarphil on January 27, 2008, 09:28:37 PM
hi there
the menu screen is not slow on on opening,the computer i am using is a AMD sempron processor 3200+ 1.81 GHZ,2.00gb Ram sometimes i get an error message program not responding,but the aircarft on screen seem to stop and start for a few seconds
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: AirNav Support on January 27, 2008, 09:29:53 PM
You can change the update of the aircraft on the screen by going to File -> Preferences and making the screen refresh rate lower.
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: radarphil on January 27, 2008, 09:36:32 PM
i have done that and lowered it to 400 refresh time,the graphics card is a duel monitor Geforce xfx8500gt its is a bit better but it still stops and starts.
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: AirNav Support on January 27, 2008, 09:40:36 PM
Hi Phil,

You maybe getting confused in thinking the system will pick up the positions continusally and the movement will be smooth. Infact the position data is sent every half a second from the aircraft and hence why you will see them pause for a bit.
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: radarphil on January 27, 2008, 09:42:40 PM
i see ,is that explain why the rotating radar stops and starts as it is updating the data received? .
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: AirNav Support on January 27, 2008, 09:47:32 PM
The radar image is just an animated image, it should not be taken as literally what the RadarBox is doing. 
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: radarphil on January 27, 2008, 09:49:24 PM
ok, thats great ,i thought i had a problem but thank you for explaining it to me it has been a great help
regards phil
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: EINN-07 on January 28, 2008, 12:48:09 PM
Phil

I experienced the same and would argue that the number of sweeps is an indicator of what is going on - the more sweeps between pauses the 'better' the machine ie your PC. The Radarbox really tests your pc in terms of processor and graphics card. If you uncheck 'Share data' on the Radarbox tab in File / Preferences you should see a big improvement and in my case a lot less disk swopping while the program is running. V1.4 is supposed to use less RAM so it may allow data sharing with less consequences.

Regards
Gerry
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: AirNav Support on January 28, 2008, 02:50:06 PM
Sharing Data has very little affect to the speed unless you are not connected to the internet (this was an issue in previous version). The actual sharing data process is still running when you deselect the button (it stops sending to our server) but I am sure the data is still being outputed on the 7879 port for you to access locally.
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: CanadaKen on January 28, 2008, 04:00:32 PM
Wouldn't those pauses of the animated gif just reflect the clock cycles being used by the CPU? Higher CPU load = slow-pause-stopped gif?

CK
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: AirNav Support on January 28, 2008, 04:20:40 PM
Yes in theory, however his machine should easily be coping with RadarBox 2007, we have machines which are only 2ghz P4 coping well in London with large amounts of traffic.

It could be other applications which together cause the teh CPU usage to be high. Rest assured 1.4 will be faster and more memory freindly.
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: Roadrunner on January 28, 2008, 04:49:21 PM
I only run Radarbox on a Toshiba laptop with 160ghz speed and only 640mb of RAM and it runs with sharing and network running with no problems. I also often have PlanePlotter running on it as well - also sharing with RB.

What I have done though is kept the number of other programs running on that PC to a minimum.

However, I have a 20mb boadband connection and it was a different story with my ol 4mb connection............

Mike
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: CanadaKen on January 28, 2008, 08:45:28 PM
I only run Radarbox on a Toshiba laptop with 160ghz speed

Mike

160ghz! You must be using liquid nitrogen cooling, Mike! :-)

So 1.6ghz handles the RB easily....good to know.

Ken
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: radarphil on January 30, 2008, 05:30:24 PM
anyone know when the new v1.4 will be here? and what will be the differances from the current version.
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: Allocator on January 30, 2008, 06:35:47 PM
anyone know when the new v1.4 will be here? and what will be the differances from the current version.

See the new manual which is available for download here on the forum.  The manual has been written for V1.4
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: Roadrunner on January 30, 2008, 07:56:03 PM
The manual is no good without the upgrade to use it with :-)
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: Allocator on January 30, 2008, 08:14:05 PM
The manual is no good without the upgrade to use it with :-)

You're right, but one of the the questions was, what are the differences ;-)

I can't answer the other bit, but it must be coming soon!
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: AirNav Support on January 30, 2008, 08:23:25 PM
Soon :) we are working on the final issues. Thats all I can say at the moment
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: Roadrunner on January 30, 2008, 08:25:34 PM
I never was any good at waiting for new toys......... :-)
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: radarphil on February 19, 2008, 08:46:23 PM
hi there i have updated my prossesor to a AMD 64x2 duel core prosseser 6000+ 3.01 GHZ with 3.50 GB RAM.and still the radar freezes for about 5-10 seconds then resumes with the aircraft jumping from the old possition to the new possition.this seems to happen when the program has been running for about 2 hours the refresh settings have been changed to different settings and also the share data and network dissabled.any idea why this is happening,the program starts off ok then gets slower as time goes on roughley about 2 hours ,the cpu level is running at average 50%
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: radarphil on February 19, 2008, 08:48:40 PM
I keep having to restart the radarbox to refresh and bring the speed up again
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: AirNav Development on February 19, 2008, 09:11:36 PM
That problem is corrected for V1.4. The new version is totally thread based so the processing of data does not interfere with the main application.
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: radarphil on February 19, 2008, 09:28:14 PM
thats great news role on v1.4 .its not the rotating radar that is the problem to me but it may have a part of the problem its just the aircraft jump 10 miles (bunny hopping) accross the screen then it freezes and it crashes thus the close and restart.
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: AirNav Support on February 19, 2008, 09:49:19 PM
Very surprised by that unless your computer is very slow. I assume you might be talking about network flights.

Open up task manager when RadarBox 2007 is running and can you tell us what the processor percentage and ram is?
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: radarphil on February 19, 2008, 10:10:18 PM
remind me how to get to task manager on xp.sorry.
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: AirNav Support on February 19, 2008, 10:12:59 PM
Press CTRL -> ALT -> Delete. Hold them all down together and it should pop up.
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: radarphil on February 19, 2008, 10:18:13 PM
task manager ANRB.EXE cpu = 13 vairable and peaks to 50 and mem usage = 24,000 peaks at 132.000
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: AirNav Support on February 19, 2008, 10:21:28 PM
Yes as expected, your machine is coping with RadarBox 2007 without any issues if its maxing at 50%.

The aircraft which do not move for 30 seconds are network aircraft. They are aircraft picked up by other RadarBoxes and they are 5 minute delayed for security purposes. You should have them set so they are appearing with a "*" at the end of there callsign.
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: radarphil on February 19, 2008, 10:22:36 PM
cpu usage 51 % pf usage 806mb
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: radarphil on February 19, 2008, 10:35:06 PM
yes i have done that but because i was having difficulty with the cpu usage before i upgraded my pc i switched it off so the aircraft that were (bunny jumping)across the screen are live aircraft from the aerial.it is like the program clogs up and goes slow hence the aircraft jumping possitions then stops ,then i restart the program all goes well for 2 hours then same happens.as you said it may be corrected with v1.4 . if you can imagine the live aircraft doing the same as the network aircraft ,updating every 5 mins but in my case every 5-10 seconds.i am using a duel monitor on my pc and have opened up another radar screen on the other monitor thus i can see local traffic close up and distant trafic on the other,could this have anything to do with it?
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: radarphil on February 19, 2008, 10:45:06 PM
If you wish you can use remote assistance to my computer and may be you can see directley on what is happening ,if it is any help to you,tomorrow.
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: AirNav Support on February 19, 2008, 10:58:22 PM
Can you check you no power saving settings for RadarBox and also while you have RadarBox on one monitor do you use any applications which are using the USB connections heavily?
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: radarphil on February 20, 2008, 04:49:42 PM
Good news.the radar box has now been running for 5 hours and it has not frozen up yet although it has been stop starting 1 or 2 times and seem to run slower in continuity to the sbs-1 on my other computer
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: radarphil on February 20, 2008, 04:52:24 PM
the stop start bunny jumping of aircraft across the screen seems to happen when it tries to update aircraft from the network flights de selected this option and i am only looking at live data(aircraft)
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: radarphil on February 20, 2008, 04:55:24 PM
its as if it is still trying to update from the network when the network is turned off.i.e bottom right hand side saying all photo/info requests done then saying 1 photo prossesing done that is when the stop start bunny jumping starts
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: radarphil on February 20, 2008, 05:03:14 PM
due to the stop bunny hops the histort trails of the aircraft rather beenn one solid line behind the aircraft it is dots and dashes.
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: AirNav Support on February 20, 2008, 05:09:46 PM
Switch off photos downloads and also disable sharing and tell us whether it improves.
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: radarphil on February 20, 2008, 05:15:08 PM
photo downloads and sharing are already swiched off.
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: AirNav Support on February 20, 2008, 05:18:02 PM
Can you record a session and send that file to support.
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: radarphil on February 20, 2008, 05:22:05 PM
ok will do. give me a bit of time to sort it .
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: radarphil on February 20, 2008, 06:12:57 PM
i have sent you the recording of the screen hope its ok .i have also got an error report reading anrb.exe app ver.0.0.0.0 midver 0.0.0.0. offset 0011c9ba
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: Spaice on February 20, 2008, 09:14:37 PM
Radarphil,  Do you have any antivirus programs running, and if you do is it possible that it's doing a sweep of your system.  some of them them like sophos can take up 80% of cpu while running.
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: radarphil on February 20, 2008, 10:09:03 PM
i have avg anti virus but the anti virus it not sweeping when the radar box is on.the cpu level is now very low due to a new amd 6000 prossesor .when i start the radar box the aircraft air crossing the screen constantley without any interuption but after about 5 hours it seems to clog up and they start to slow down and then bunny hop across the screen as though the radar box it clogging up. i have sent a recording to air nav of the session i hope they got it .
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: radarphil on February 20, 2008, 10:23:11 PM
just got error report and radar box failure error message read
App name anrb.exe Appver 0.0.0.0
mode name anrb exe
mode ver 0.0.0.0 offset 011c9ba
Title: Re: rotating radar top right stop and start
Post by: AirNav Support on February 20, 2008, 10:27:43 PM
We have pmed you with different address to send the recording too. Any further error messages please send to that email and we will help you direct.

Its easier for us than continually posting on the forum.

What we can say is that you are having a very unusual issue (nobody else has mentioned same symptoms), which we think maybe USB related as otherwise your computer seems well equipped to handle it.