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Title: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: AirNav Development on January 28, 2010, 11:41:51 PM
After 2 months of continuous beta testing and 2 permanent programmers working on the 3D interface we are releasing today what we expect to be a very final beta version of AirNav RadarBox 3D.

The current status is simple: all reported bugs are now corrected and the application seems to be 100% stable.

You can download it from:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/anrb/401Beta/anrb.exe

Replace your current exe with this one.
The more feedback we get the better as we do want to release this application in 5 to 10 days.

Note: if you haven't done it yet you need to download and install the application from
http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/anrb/400Beta/ANRB400BetaSetup.exe
and of course don't forget to overwrite the exe from this installer with the one above.
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: pjm on January 29, 2010, 09:07:10 AM
Seems to be a regression from the last beta. The 3D cluster buttons are locked in position and not movable.

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/8636/20100129200507.jpg)
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: AirNav Development on January 29, 2010, 02:50:07 PM
Pjm: can you explain again your report?
I believe you are referring to the 3D panel on the top: we do confirm they are fixed now and are not movable but this is not a regression: this is something we want to see, at least fr now, implemented in the application.

Regarding the rest of the application: we are specifically focusing on reliability, performance, freezes, crashes. Any reports on this would be extremely helpful.

Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: tarbat on January 29, 2010, 05:17:50 PM
Okay, downloaded the full install, and then replaced with the new exe.

Just a brief test, but after a couple of minutes of spinning the 3D view around to look at aircraft, etc. Radarbox has locked, consuming 49% CPU (ie. all of one core).  Had to kill it after 5 minutes of it using 49% CPU.

Screenshot:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2752/4313512823_b01ec4def0_t.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarbat/4313512823/)
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: tarbat on January 29, 2010, 05:22:35 PM
Second problem.  Restarted RB, and after a couple of minutes, got this series of errors.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2732/4313530977_958d35f85e_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: AirNav 3D Development on January 29, 2010, 05:29:43 PM
Second problem.  Restarted RB, and after a couple of minutes, got this series of errors.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2732/4313530977_958d35f85e_o.jpg)

Hello tarbat,

The first error dialog you show indicates that the Google Earth plug-in crashed. The second error dialog indicates that the RB app cannot connect to the plug-in (which is expected unfortunately when the plug-in is not responsive). Do you have any idea why the plug-in might have crashed? What was happening at the time of this event? Did you have hardware+network flights both displaying and set to "maximum" in the performance? It's not uncommon for the plug-in to sometimes crash if it's trying to display 1000+ aircraft in 'maximum' mode (it can run out of memory). If you could provide us with some more details about what was going on when this happened, it would be very helpful.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: tarbat on January 29, 2010, 05:38:02 PM
Do you have any idea why the plug-in might have crashed?
Sorry, no.

What was happening at the time of this event?
I was watching a Ryanair depart from Aberdeen.  No mouse or keyboard interation at the time.

Did you have hardware+network flights both displaying and set to "maximum" in the performance?
Hardware flights only.  Set to "Medium".

Maybe you could find a more "user-friendly" way of coping with the Google plugin failing.  Might help to reduce the number of problem tickets!!

I've re-booted and re-started ANRB, will let you know if it happens again.
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: tarbat on January 29, 2010, 05:58:40 PM
One bit of feedback, and I might have missed this during previous testing.

Is there an option somewhere to tell Radarbox to startup in 2D mode instead of 3D?   As someone who prefers 2D, but might use 3D occasionally, I would like the option to startup RB in 2D, and select 3D if I want it.
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: EMA on January 29, 2010, 06:21:13 PM
One bit of feedback, and I might have missed this during previous testing.

Is there an option somewhere to tell Radarbox to startup in 2D mode instead of 3D?   As someone who prefers 2D, but might use 3D occasionally, I would like the option to startup RB in 2D, and select 3D if I want it.

When I last asked I was told that was not possible at the moment.

I agree it would be nice.

I also had the same script error as you on a previous beta last week. The Google Earth plugin got it's knickers in a twist and I had to restart the program.
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: pjm on January 29, 2010, 08:24:52 PM
I believe you are referring to the 3D panel on the top: we do confirm they are fixed now and are not movable but this is not a regression: this is something we want to see, at least fr now, implemented in the application.

Yes that was what I was referring to. If that is the current design then I guess its working correctly...

btw - it formats correctly on my 22" monitor, hopefully it looks ok on smaller screens.

Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: pjm on January 29, 2010, 10:34:15 PM
Regarding the rest of the application: we are specifically focusing on reliability, performance, freezes, crashes. Any reports on this would be extremely helpful.

The app itself seems quite stable here. There are a few "access violations" being generated in the ANRB.ELF file though...
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: pjm on January 29, 2010, 10:35:26 PM
Is there an option somewhere to tell Radarbox to startup in 2D mode instead of 3D? 

yes - its called ANRB v3.13 :)
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: Frank on January 30, 2010, 07:24:44 AM
After I renewed my expired Network Account and paid for an additional year, 3D does not work anymore. Only 2D..

Frank
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: EMA on January 30, 2010, 07:42:28 AM
It is stable on both Vista and Win 7 although for some reason with the latest Beta exe I found my home position to be in the middle of the Atlantic. When I do a find home location it resets it until the next time I start the program.

I decided to do a full complete re-install but the default is not where it should be and it is not remembering the home location after a restart.

Overall the 3D program is looking very good and it is nice to be able to see a pilots view on climb out and landing.

Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: tarbat on January 30, 2010, 09:15:32 AM
Since the initial crashes I had, this version seems stable.

One problem, and this might be my poor understanding of how this is meant to work.  I've ticked the box "Use only 3D aircraft models (if available)".
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4010/4315757688_a32107e13c_t.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarbat/4315757688/sizes/o/)

However, I only see a 3D model on the currently selected aircraft.  Here's an example:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2755/4315755976_a6babf6930_t.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarbat/4315755976/sizes/o/)

As soon as I double-click on another aircraft, I lose the 3D model of the first aircraft.  I have also tried reloading the GE plugin.
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: tarbat on January 30, 2010, 09:17:56 AM
Another thought.  Would it be worth designing a default, generic, 3D aircraft model for all those aircraft that don't have a specific 3D model.  I find the flat, 2D representation that's use for unknown aircraft really looks bad in a 3D world.

Maybe something the size of a small Airbus, coloured BLUE to indicate that it's a generic 3D model.
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: tarbat on January 30, 2010, 09:38:07 AM
Sorry, me again.  When I switch back to the 2D map, the map is zoomed out a lot further than it was before I went into the 3D map.  Shouldn't the 2D map retain all it's settings even if you switch to the 3D map and then back?
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: tarbat on January 30, 2010, 09:45:28 AM
Another observation.  Is Radarbox meant to remember what external KMLs you've selected?  I just restarted Radarbox, and it's forgotten that I selected the UK airspace and global cloud cover KMLs.

Sorry for all the posts.  This is the first time I've really had time to test 3D in depth, so just want to highlight potential problems, its not meant as a criticism of the 3D feature, which is working great.
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: pjm on January 30, 2010, 09:50:29 AM
I've ticked the box "Use only 3D aircraft models (if available)

Also select "maximum" for hardware flights. This is my current settings

(http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/1596/20100130205014.jpg)
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: pjm on January 30, 2010, 09:52:44 AM
Another thought.  Would it be worth designing a default, generic, 3D aircraft model for all those aircraft that don't have a specific 3D model. 

see above :)

Once you've set to hardware flights to maximum and your problem will go away, there is  a generic 3D models
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: pjm on January 30, 2010, 09:56:13 AM
Sorry, me again.  When I switch back to the 2D map, the map is zoomed out a lot further than it was before I went into the 3D map.  Shouldn't the 2D map retain all it's settings even if you switch to the 3D map and then back?

Mine returns to its last size/position when I switch back/forth. This was a bug in the earlier beta's but got fixed along the way. Not sure why its not working for you.
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: tarbat on January 30, 2010, 10:02:13 AM
Once you've set to hardware flights to maximum and your problem will go away, there is  a generic 3D models

Thanks.  Yes, switching to Maximum does show all aircraft with 3D models.

So that's a bug.  The "Use Only 3D Aircraft Models (if available)" tickbox needs to be disabled if Performance isn't set to maximum.
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: tarbat on January 30, 2010, 10:04:40 AM
Sorry, me again.  When I switch back to the 2D map, the map is zoomed out a lot further than it was before I went into the 3D map.  Shouldn't the 2D map retain all it's settings even if you switch to the 3D map and then back?

Mine returns to its last size/position when I switch back/forth. This was a bug in the earlier beta's but got fixed along the way. Not sure why its not working for you.

Okay, it's definately not working here.  Images of the 2D map before going into 3D, followed by the image when I return back to 2D.

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4060/4315078781_d006c40aa8_t.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarbat/4315078781/)    (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2781/4315815206_b4cd3b7876_t.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarbat/4315815206/)
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: Allocator on January 30, 2010, 10:06:47 AM
I still seem to be suffering from the Preferences window jumping to the background and therefore making the RB interface unresponsive.  Selected 3D View from menu bar, Preferences window appeared for a split second and disappeared.  ow all that happens when I click anywhere on the RB interface is a Windows 'bong' noise.

Got to go out now, I'll try again later.
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: pjm on January 30, 2010, 10:11:04 AM
I still seem to be suffering from the Preferences window jumping to the background and therefore making the RB interface unresponsive.

fyi "ALT F4" will close the hidden preferences window and ANRB will be responsive again.
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: tarbat on January 30, 2010, 12:13:04 PM
I managed to get the 3D view locked in full-screen mode.  I think this is what I did:
1. Pressed ESC to goto full screen.
2. Pressed ESC to exit full screen.
3. Pressed the "Exit Full Screen" button.
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: tarbat on January 30, 2010, 01:48:28 PM
Thanks.  Yes, switching to Maximum does show all aircraft with 3D models.

I spoke too soon.  I'm still seeing 2D icons for aircraft, even with Performance set to Maximum and "Use only 3D aircraft" ticked.

In this example, the aircraft at the bottom of the screen has a 3D model, but the two aircraft near the top of the screen are 2D representations.

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4019/4316111156_20febd2d3f_t.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarbat/4316111156/sizes/o/)

And, if I've selected a smaller size for the aircraft model, shouldn't these 2D representations of an aircraft also reduce in size?

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4017/4315380055_ed3ebc3069_o.jpg)

Must say that this version appears to be very stable, although it's pushing my 2.8GHz dual-core pentium to close to 100% a lot of the time.  I guess a better graphics card would help, I'm just using the Radeon X1300 graphics built-in to my Dell PC :(
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: tarbat on January 30, 2010, 03:12:11 PM
Okay, 3D seems to be working okay.  Any suggestions for anything specific that needs to be tested?  Any previous problems that need re-testing?

I've got another couple of hours available for testing.
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: AirNav 3D Development on January 30, 2010, 03:55:10 PM
Thanks.  Yes, switching to Maximum does show all aircraft with 3D models.

I spoke too soon.  I'm still seeing 2D icons for aircraft, even with Performance set to Maximum and "Use only 3D aircraft" ticked.

In this example, the aircraft at the bottom of the screen has a 3D model, but the two aircraft near the top of the screen are 2D representations.

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4019/4316111156_20febd2d3f_t.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarbat/4316111156/sizes/o/)

And, if I've selected a smaller size for the aircraft model, shouldn't these 2D representations of an aircraft also reduce in size?

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4017/4315380055_ed3ebc3069_o.jpg)


Tarbat,

When the model gets far away from the camera position, it automatically switches back to the 2D icon. If you zoom towards that aircraft, you should see it automatically switch to the 3D model as you get closer. The reason for this is to prevent the plug-in from showing too many models that get too far away to really be useful. This significantly increases performance as at times, hundreds of 3D models could be displayed (which could freeze up your system due to the amount of graphics required). This is similar to the full Google Earth application when you enable 'buildings' and they disappear after you zoom away from them. 
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: tarbat on January 30, 2010, 04:03:31 PM
Okay, understood.  So, summary of a day's testing:

1. Need an option to startup in 2D mode.

2. Find a more "user-friendly" way of coping with any Google plugin failures.  Might help to reduce the number of problem tickets!!

3. The "Use Only 3D Aircraft Models (if available)" tickbox needs to be disabled if Performance isn't set to maximum.

4. If you select a smaller size for the aircraft model in preferences, then the 2D icon of an aircraft should also reduce in size so that it is a similar size to a 3D model.

5. When I switch back to the 2D map, the map is zoomed out a lot further than it was before I went into the 3D map.  The 2D map should retain all it's settings even if you switch to the 3D map and then back.

6. Is Radarbox meant to remember what external KMLs you've selected?  I just restarted Radarbox, and it's forgotten that I selected the UK airspace and global cloud cover KMLs.

7. I managed to get the 3D view locked in full-screen mode.  I think this is what I did, but I haven't been able to re-produce it again.
   - Pressed ESC to goto full screen.
   - Pressed ESC to exit full screen.
   - Pressed the "Exit Full Screen" button.

This version has been very stable all day.
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: EMA on January 30, 2010, 07:55:09 PM
I still seem to be suffering from the Preferences window jumping to the background and therefore making the RB interface unresponsive.  Selected 3D View from menu bar, Preferences window appeared for a split second and disappeared.  ow all that happens when I click anywhere on the RB interface is a Windows 'bong' noise.

Got to go out now, I'll try again later.

I was supplied with an updated exe which fixed the issue of pop up windows disappearing.
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: AirNav 3D Development on January 30, 2010, 10:42:53 PM
Okay, understood.  So, summary of a day's testing:

1. Need an option to startup in 2D mode.

2. Find a more "user-friendly" way of coping with any Google plugin failures.  Might help to reduce the number of problem tickets!!

3. The "Use Only 3D Aircraft Models (if available)" tickbox needs to be disabled if Performance isn't set to maximum.

4. If you select a smaller size for the aircraft model in preferences, then the 2D icon of an aircraft should also reduce in size so that it is a similar size to a 3D model.

5. When I switch back to the 2D map, the map is zoomed out a lot further than it was before I went into the 3D map.  The 2D map should retain all it's settings even if you switch to the 3D map and then back.

6. Is Radarbox meant to remember what external KMLs you've selected?  I just restarted Radarbox, and it's forgotten that I selected the UK airspace and global cloud cover KMLs.

7. I managed to get the 3D view locked in full-screen mode.  I think this is what I did, but I haven't been able to re-produce it again.
   - Pressed ESC to goto full screen.
   - Pressed ESC to exit full screen.
   - Pressed the "Exit Full Screen" button.

This version has been very stable all day.

Tarbat,

Thanks for your feedback--these are very helpful. We are looking into resolving these items now.
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: pjm on January 30, 2010, 10:45:40 PM
1. Need an option to startup in 2D mode.

I'd like an option to start up in "split screen" mode too.

I suspect either of these would slow down the ANRB startup significantly though.

Here whenever I switch to a mode with a 2D screen (map view/split view) it takes ANRB 5-10 seconds to build the screen. Switching to a 3D only mode is almost instant.

Presumably this is the reason ANRB 3D starts up, "hardware connected" and displaying aircraft - far faster than ANRB 2D (v3.13 ).

Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: tarbat on January 30, 2010, 11:18:43 PM
Presumably this is the reason ANRB 3D starts up, "hardware connected" and displaying aircraft - far faster than ANRB 2D (v3.13 ).

Even more good reason to have the option of 2D or 3D at startup.
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: pjm on January 31, 2010, 02:48:28 AM
I've just had one more instance of a  red 'x' in the 3D info balloon. Not sure why I didn't get the "Photo not available" picture. This time its a military aircraft and the 2D interface is showing the aircraft type as spaces. See screenshots below.


(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/5316/20100131133924.jpg) (http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/5316/20100131133924.jpg)

(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/2449/20100131133821.jpg) (http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/2449/20100131133821.jpg)
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: pjm on January 31, 2010, 04:27:33 AM
Just had a 3D model fail to appear for an extended period (It did eventually appear after about 5 minutes of displaying the trails sans model). fyi there were a lot of model errors through the google earth interface as well... Screenshots below.


(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4905/20100131150013.jpg) (http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4905/20100131150013.jpg)

(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1508/20100131145949.jpg) (http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1508/20100131145949.jpg)

(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/5284/20100131151420.jpg) (http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/5284/20100131151420.jpg)
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: tarbat on January 31, 2010, 10:34:34 AM
Don't know if this has been mentioned before, but using the "Start Tour" button doesn't cycle through the aircraft in 3D view.

I would have thought this would be really useful for demo PCs in shops, etc. for RB to cycle through the aircraft in the 3D view.
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: tarbat on January 31, 2010, 10:36:12 AM
fyi there were a lot of model errors through the google earth interface as well... Screenshots below.

How do you access RB data in Google Earth?
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: pjm on January 31, 2010, 11:22:47 AM
How do you access RB data in Google Earth?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDG5pdvlUWE

:)
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: tarbat on January 31, 2010, 11:45:19 AM
Thanks.  I've entered "localhost port 7895 aircraft.kmz aircrafthw.kmz" but get nothing.  What's the exact wording for the network link?
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: Frank on January 31, 2010, 12:21:43 PM
Tarbat wrote:

Must say that this version appears to be very stable, although it's pushing my 2.8GHz dual-core pentium to close to 100% a lot of the time.  I guess a better graphics card would help, I'm just using the Radeon X1300 graphics built-in to my Dell PC :(
[/quote]



I have a dual-core 2.4 GHZ Pentium with 4GB mem and a 9400GT NVidia Videocard with 1GB of mem . When I set the performance option to maximum (both myflights and network flights) my system freezes every now and then (CPU usage nearly 100%). After 5-8 secs the system moves on. I have attached a screenshot of the Msgs/sec after such a 'freezing' periode. The number between brackets is quite remarkable (I have seen a number over 1600). When the max performance network option is set to minimum, problems are over.

I still wonder what the specs are for a system, where these 'problems' do not occur, and should there be a warning for future customers, who like this great feature and might be disappointed when they cannot fully enjoy this add-on, when your system is a bit slow(?).

The little bug in the Regional Dutch settings (wrong home location) still exists.

Frank
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: Allocator on January 31, 2010, 12:40:16 PM
My AMD Athlon 64 3200+ running at 2GHz with 2 GB of RAM is struggling a bit with RB 3D.  The PC is probably in need of a bit of a 'refresh' as it must be 2 or 3 years since I did my last upgrade.

However, using Hardware Medium and Network Minimum and update rates of 10 sec and 60 sec, it's quite usable.  Deselecting Network flights does speed things up considerably, but not enough to allow maximum settings for Hardware flights.
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: Allocator on January 31, 2010, 01:37:44 PM
The 'Show only Fleet Watch Flights on Map' doesn't work with the 3D map - not sure if it is supposed to, or if this is only a 2D map option?
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: AirNav Development on January 31, 2010, 02:00:25 PM
Just a brief point of situation:
1- We are still working on some minor corrections;
2- The minimum specifications are those you can find for Google Earth ( http://earth.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=20701 ). This is a complex application and will not properly run on "weaker" computers.
3- We will not add any new feature/request at this time. Basially what we are looking is for the application to be stable, which it seems to be. Bugs will be corrected and unfortunately requests will only be developed for future upgrades.

Keep the reports coming. We will have more news in 2 days.
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: tarbat on January 31, 2010, 02:08:32 PM
Thanks.  I've entered "localhost port 7895 aircraft.kmz aircrafthw.kmz" but get nothing.  What's the exact wording for the network link?

Anyone know how to get this working.  I've tried things like
http://localhost:7895/aircraft.kmz
localhost:7895/aircraft.kmz
http://localhost:7895/aircrafthw.kmz
localhost:7895/aircrafthw.kmz


But with no success.  I'd like to beta test this undocumented feature if anyone knows the precise syntax of the network link.   Thanks.
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: Allocator on January 31, 2010, 02:11:27 PM
My AMD Athlon 64 3200+ running at 2GHz with 2 GB of RAM is struggling a bit with RB 3D.  The PC is probably in need of a bit of a 'refresh' as it must be 2 or 3 years since I did my last upgrade.

However, using Hardware Medium and Network Minimum and update rates of 10 sec and 60 sec, it's quite usable.  Deselecting Network flights does speed things up considerably, but not enough to allow maximum settings for Hardware flights.

Ha! Not meant as a criticism, more as an acknowledgement that my PC is getting a bit 'long in the tooth'.  Just the excuse I need to go out and but a new bag of 'bits' to install - or do I just buy a new PC - I always have this discussion with myself - lol

My previous guide to when I needed to upgrade was when a new version of MS Flight Simulator was launched :-)
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: AirNav Development on January 31, 2010, 02:14:23 PM
"My previous guide to when I needed to upgrade was when a new version of MS Flight Simulator was launched :-)"

Same here... :-)
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: tarbat on January 31, 2010, 03:28:34 PM
Anyone know how to get this working.  I've tried things like
          http://localhost:7895/aircraft.kmz
          localhost:7895/aircraft.kmz
          http://localhost:7895/aircrafthw.kmz
          localhost:7895/aircrafthw.kmz
But with no success.  I'd like to beta test this undocumented feature if anyone knows the precise syntax of the network link.   Thanks.

I give up.  I can't get this working.  Connections to/from port 7895 show up okay in netlimiter, but no aircraft appear in Google Earth.

I can get http://www.airnavsystems.com/cgi-bin/ANRB_3D/google_earth.php to work an my browser though.
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: AirNav 3D Development on January 31, 2010, 03:41:37 PM
Anyone know how to get this working.  I've tried things like
          http://localhost:7895/aircraft.kmz
          localhost:7895/aircraft.kmz
          http://localhost:7895/aircrafthw.kmz
          localhost:7895/aircrafthw.kmz
But with no success.  I'd like to beta test this undocumented feature if anyone knows the precise syntax of the network link.   Thanks.

I give up.  I can't get this working.  Connections to/from port 7895 show up okay in netlimiter, but no aircraft appear in Google Earth.

I can get http://www.airnavsystems.com/cgi-bin/ANRB_3D/google_earth.php to work an my browser though.

Hi Tarbat,

This 'feature' may not be available in the final release. There is still much more development that need to be done to get this 'feature' to work correctly, so for this release we're focusing on the embedded plug-in. If you have specific questions about the full GE connection or would like more details how to get it setup, please send me an email offline.
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: AirNav 3D Development on January 31, 2010, 03:45:48 PM
I've just had one more instance of a  red 'x' in the 3D info balloon. Not sure why I didn't get the "Photo not available" picture. This time its a military aircraft and the 2D interface is showing the aircraft type as spaces. See screenshots below.


(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/5316/20100131133924.jpg) (http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/5316/20100131133924.jpg)

(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/2449/20100131133821.jpg) (http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/2449/20100131133821.jpg)

pjm,

If you get the broken thumbnail image again, could you try right-clicking on the broken and image and choose "properties" and find out what the URL of that broken image is. My initial hunch is that your install might be missing a local image file (which isn't included in the app installer yet).
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: tarbat on January 31, 2010, 03:46:42 PM
This 'feature' may not be available in the final release. There is still much more development that need to be done to get this 'feature' to work correctly, so for this release we're focusing on the embedded plug-in. If you have specific questions about the full GE connection or would like more details how to get it setup, please send me an email offline.

Don't worry then, if it may not be avialable in the final release.  I was just following up on pjm's reported problem of "there were a lot of model errors through the google earth interface... ".
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: pjm on January 31, 2010, 08:06:39 PM
If you get the broken thumbnail image again, could you try right-clicking on the broken and image and choose "properties" and find out what the URL of that broken image is. My initial hunch is that your install might be missing a local image file (which isn't included in the app installer yet).

3D

This one is very rare - I've only seen it once, so likely it won't pop up for a while. What is different from the other "unknown/photo not available" ones is the 3x spaces in the interface (instead of 3x dots), so I'm thinking if you can look at the 2D interface code and work out why it put 3 spaces in there instead of 3 dots for the unknown type, you can probably put the same code in the 3D parser.
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: tegron on February 01, 2010, 08:31:33 AM
Hi, here's a summary of my tests:

A. Problems
1. 3D map automatically turns to offscreen at startup or when 3D map is opened (black space with stars is shown). You have to manually reposition the GE-map.
2. Same happens in operation while the ANRB window isn't in front for a certain time. The time varies, sometimes it happens after 10 minutes, sometimes longer.
3. Indicated flight directions of flights sometimes differ between 2D and 3D map view (observed with settings at minimum).
4. While zooming in/out or while moving the 3D map flight icons will appear/disappear. It seems as if the flight icons are blocked out once they get inside an "invisible area" (which seems to be circular around the map center).

Here's a link to a video demonstrating the above problems in FLV and WMV format:http://cid-deecd52e5e00005a.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/.Public (http://cid-deecd52e5e00005a.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/.Public)

B. Comments
1. General performance is fine/acceptable (Quadcore 2.6 GHz, Win7, 4 GB, NVidia 8800), while the app is unresponsive for a second or two with settings at max. and a high network traffic count. Interestingly to see is that RAM usage of the GEplugin.exe peaks to around 1.5 GB at times.
2.Observed CPU loads (settings at maximum):
a. Low network traffic count (< 400 flights):
- ANRB.exe: normal ~5%, peaks to ~25%
- GEplugin.exe: normal ~20%, peaks to ~35%
b. High network traffic count (> 1000 flights)
- ANRB.exe: normal ~10%, peaks to ~35%
- GEplugin.exe: normal ~30%, peaks to ~60%
3. Custom kml files need to be named with lower case characters to be shown in the external kml manager.

C. Suggestions
1. Introduce a synchronize maps feature, so that both maps show the same area.
2. Add an option to hide the mapcontrols of the 3D map (compass, orientation, pan) as in GE.
Title: Re: Pre-Release Final EXE Available
Post by: AirNav Development on February 07, 2010, 01:33:23 PM
Topic closed, a new one is being open.