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AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com => AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com Discussion => Topic started by: piper-pilot on January 21, 2008, 02:03:24 PM
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When I leave work I leave our unit running overnight for you all to see!
Lets see some of you guys across the Pond doing the same.
If we all leave our units running 24/7 on the network we will be able to see what is happening worldwide. If we only have data when people are home it will al be very boring.
So come on guys lets leave them on when we are out and really share our data
Regards
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My RB is connected to a laptop and I am sorry but there is no way I would go out and leave it running :-(
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Quick question. Is there an option in RB to just upload your data without downloading others? This is something I use all the time in Planeplotter to share my data 24/7, without the bandwidth overheads of downloading everyone else's data. Useful for those on a limited bandwidth ISP.
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As I understand it even If you dont download from the network you can still have your device set to upload what you are seeing. Preferences RadarBox Share Flight data
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Yes Roadrunner its correct, you will be sharing regardless of downloading network data unless you tick the box in preferences.
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How to know if my datas are realy shared ? I visited this page :
http://www.airnavsystems.com/RadarBox/network.php
and I don't see my position.
Of course, I ticked the "share flight data" in RadarBox Preference. It's the fourth day I'm on the network and I don't know if my received traffic is broadcasted...
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Did you see the comment under the map - which is as follows:
Note that the locations shown are not those specified by each user. They are extracted from the user IP address for greater accuracy. Some stations may be missing.
Regards
Mike
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Yes, I did Mike, but nothing seems to be like my IP address except if it is a mistake from myself. I will try to trace it. Thanks for helping.
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Sorry, it was my mistake, my IP is shown hundreds kilometers south of my real position. Disregard !
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I actually wonder at the validity of using the IP address. If you are connected to something like NTL Broadband I think it shows everybody in Stevenage as being in Luton.
It would be much more fun showing peoples real positions from their Forum declared location.
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At the shop our IP address shows us being 18 miles south of where we are!
Regards
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That's true, Roadrunner !!! Position shown for my installation is 500 km aways from real one !
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It would be more interesting with the actual positions taken from the home location in RadarBox however that would be a invasion of privacy.
This is the closest we can get without actually allowing people to list there position.
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It would be more interesting with the actual positions taken from the home location in RadarBox however that would be a invasion of privacy.
This is the closest we can get without actually allowing people to list there position.
How about if end users could waver this information. I'm sure you could knock up some sort of text?
The fact that in my case a peg would be on Helston, Cornwall does not pin-point my house or anything more than a location that has 1000's of house.
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We will look into this, though won't be in 1.4 as thats already in testing.
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During the day we have now about 80 stations sharing the data, during the night in Europe we have about 40 - these 40 completely cover almost all european continent so there is no loss of coverage at that time.
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I can see a good bit of europe without the network what I want to see is American air traffic and they do not seem to be sharing or you do not have any users there!
Regards
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If you want to see all US Air Traffic, best to look into Live Flight Tracker. That will suit your needs.
Its not that we don't have customers there, its more the size of the US and the fact that ADS-B is still in early stages in the US (30-40% of flights have ADS-B) while in Europe we enjoy a 70%+ ratio on occasions.
Don't worry though, new customers are setting up all the time and its exciting to see parts of the world appearing.
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This is a view from London today
I can see nothing flying in USA but if I go to Planeploter I can see there are indeed many.
So come on you guys start sharing
Cheers
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As I said our users are sharing their data. We have had records of 95 stations sharing at the same time and we now have continuosly, on average, 80 staions sharing from all continents. New great locations are being added daily, including Dubai, Kuwait, Azores and next week, Buenos Aires.
ADS-S is in early stages in the US, contrary to Europe where more than 75% of the traffic uses it (10% in the US).
For users that want to track flights in the US we have our popular (more than 20 thousand subscribers now) AirNav Live Flight Tracker which gets data directly from th US Radar System and shows ALL IFR traffic over the US and Canada.
Have a look at:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/tracker
It is being used from enthusiasts to major airlines.
For Europe the explanation is above.
PS: to actually see which station are sharing it is not a good idea to see how many flight are shown since at night there are 5% of the flights compared to daytime. For that purpose check:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/radarbox/network.php
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I take your comments on board but I still see much more US mode S traffic on PlanePlotter than I do the radar box and I am curious why!
It is good to see other countries coming along and the traffic increase is great!
Have a good weekend
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I take your comments on board but I still see much more US mode S traffic on PlanePlotter than I do the radar box and I am curious why!
It is good to see other countries coming along and the traffic increase is great!
Have a good weekend
I little traffic in the USA using PlanePlotter. Are you sure that you have your PP maps calibrated correctly? Can you post a screenshot?
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2088/2218515953_5439b2d43e.jpg)
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I will try a post on Monday as I am out of the office until then.
Can the network carry data on aircraft that do not give there positional data?
Also has anyone output the Radarbox over Microsoft maps yet? I find them so much better than Google Earth.
Interesting on Allocator's picture not much over Italy and Ireland what time of day was it taken?
Have a good weekend
Regards
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Interesting on Allocator's picture not much over Italy and Ireland what time of day was it taken?
Have a good weekend
Regards
The screenshot time is as the time of the post - 1945 UTC
There can't be many sharing tonight, as still don't have much showing on PP outside the the area you can see on the screenshot. I usually get much more than this in Europe, but I just don't see much activity in the USA whatever time I look.
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In the USA only 10% of traffic carries ADS-B (position report) so you will never see too much traffic there on RadarBox network.
Again and one more time if you want to see traffic in the USA Live with data directly coming from the FAA and Canadian Radar System (usually 6000 flights at each time) use AirNav Live Flight Tracker. It is the most widely used software of its type.
Planeplotter shows you random locations with 20 or 30 flights in the USA while AirNav Live Flight Tracker shows you ALL THE TRAFFIC. We get the data from the US Radar System directly from their computers!
For Europe or other places of the earth: of course RadarBox is much better as the graphics and data quality cannot be compared with PlanePlotter. The usage of AirNav Systems software by many airlines and airports (for both RadarBox and Live Flight Tracker) shows it all. And RadarBox network is growing daily.
To finalize RadarBox Network is the first worldwide flight tracking system available. We are not other competitors that say, for 2 years, that will release a network of flight data but never developed it.
AirNav has it, it works, it is cheap and being used by more an more users daily. :-)
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Can I use Flight Tracker on screen with the Radar box and amalgamate the data?
What benifit is the ACARS add on with the Radar Box?
I know it is the only one I am trying to get answers to questions I get asked daily and hopefully benifit other users.
Regards
Chris @ ML&S
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No problem with the questions, thats what we are here for:
Can I use Flight Tracker on screen with the Radar box and amalgamate the data?
The Live Flight Tracker Data is not shown on RadarBox, but we may add this in the future. You can have them open both at the same time.
What benifit is the ACARS add on with the Radar Box?
It allows you quickly find out which aircraft which is being tracked on ADS-B is also being picked up on ACARS. You can view there messages in RadarBox and it provides a nice interface between the two.
Its a great to read the information being sent such as reasons of diversions and expected arrival and then checking whether they match up.
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Hi AirNav Development,
Any merit in including a wi fi capability in the next geneation of AirNav box, or better still adding it on to the current box, that we all have.
The radar box could potentially remain "switched on" all day and connected to both a households wi fi network & the Air Nav network, so that a near enough H24 capabiity could be built into the network ?
Practically, an additional benefit would mean less wires running from a PC \ Laptop to the anntenae in a household.
Just my suggestion, maybe its already been considered \ made by other forum users \ or not feasible.
Regards
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From Live Flight Tracker 6
(http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/9648/trackingay9.jpg)
North of Miami
(http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/7394/tracking2ek0.jpg)
This is amazing!!!
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That looks very good. I have also been watching JFK take a look at this
Sent from another forum
What a superb asset the http://www4.passur.com/jfk.html is.
I was just having a look at the site when I spotted an aircraft running
parallel with another on approach. At what seemed a very late moment it
veered on to the glide path then turned 180 deg. And "went around" before
making a correct approach.
The aircraft was described as a E135. Flight # EGF673 from RDU.
I have captured a Video of the screen but its too big for my webpage.
If you want to see this.. Goto the website and put the date of
19-January-2008- and with the time of 09-28
Select speed of 10x press start. When you see the planes left
click the one on your right which will change to RED.
If you want to keep it in sight for the duration also select range of 20
Miles.
Regards
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Passur is great only shows you a few airports while AirNav Live Flight Tracker shows you the entire US and Canadian airspace.
Have you tried AirNav Live Flight Tracker already?
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I really like AirNav Live Flight Tracker for the excellent cover that it gives for the USA. However, that 60 hours per month for the Personal Edition always plays on the mind and if you leave the computer for a couple of hours without logging off, you feel as if you have "wasted" some of your allocation. If there was any way to impose a "reasonable use" policy rather than a flat 60 hour limit, or even let you carry over unused hours to the following month that would be good.
I know that the Professional edition is available with unlimited time useage, but this is just too expensive for the casual user.
Maybe there is a middle ground here, pay for the data and have unlimited "reasonable use" access without all the functions that are available with the Personal Edition interface? I'd just love to have that data available through the RadarBox software and I'm sure that other users would like to see this too.
Just thinking out loud here :-)