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AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com => AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com Discussion => Topic started by: AirNav Development on January 11, 2008, 02:08:21 PM
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As mentioned before we are waiting for the release of V1.4 and for some other great news to announce the price to access our RadarBox Network access.
Anyway we can advance that it will be only a symbolic price to cover the network expenses (aprox 5 EUR per month). This will give anyone unlimited network access.
Hope this is great news for all of you.
Expect 2 other important announcements related to the RadarBox project in 2-3 weeks.
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Anyway we can advance that it will be only a symbolic price to cover the network expenses (aprox 5 EUR per month). This will give anyone unlimited network access.
If my maths is correct:
5x12 = 60 EUR which at the current exchange rate equates to 45.29 GBP
However, I guess that I'll have to pay UK VAT (tax) on that at 17.5%
That brings it up to 53.21 GBP per year or 4.43 GBP per month.
I think that I could live with that - not as good as free of course, but much better than I expected, especially for unlimited access.
Thanks for the info AirNav.
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Thanks for your opinion. It cannot be free because of the price of running the server and believe me we have 3 huge, expensive, state-of-the-art servers powering our network. It is prepared for millions of messages per hour, monitored 24/7/365. This has lots of expenses associated.
5 EUR per month can be considered free access (that-s 16 cents per day).
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Can you explain how that maybe paid, i.e. Monthly, annually via card/paypal etc Think you get the idea...
Also currency, will it be in Euro's only?
And yes, lot better than the first published figure and one that is about correct. :)
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What do you users prefer? To pay monthly or yearly? We thought about a yearly payment. All currencies are accepted (like with any other of our products).
This price represents a great effort from AirNav Systems as we really want to have this product fly even higher! We are not making any profit from it.
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hi
Look, guys for me i think both method payments is good.
Because someone only been interested in one month, exemple, and dont wan't pay a year.
So what we do?
I think both method is better, not only one.
best regards
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Great news should keep everyone happy, I think the option should be up to the individual, monthly or yearly that way it is fair. Keep up the good work.
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pushing this a little more, how about a monthly payment and a annual payment, with the annual costing a little less than if you had paid 12 monthly payments.
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Good price!
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Guys,
i need another information, if possible.
Why dont Airnav created a little application to everyone who don't have Radarbox?
I explain: imagine, that people who dont have a Radarbox, but they want pay to see or connect to radarbox network?
How they can do?
Can you my Airnav friends make that program?
And them the people pay to connect to netword to see air traffic.
What do you think?
Thx.
best regards
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Hi Miguel,
If we did that nobody would purchase RadarBox and that would in turn decrease the amount of flights shown.
We will NOT be doing that as its not fair to RadarBox customers, and this special price is only for RadarBox customers for the networks. Have a look at our other products which provide similar data and they priced much more.
Hope that explains it.
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After reading above post I thought I'd review what was on offer and found this... was wondering if this is one of the reasons the price for network access has came down? Not got any problem with it, just interested to know as reading the text indicates the radarbox network data is being resold.
AirNav Live Flight Data, the solution for who needs access to raw real-time flight data in XML format. Data will be downloaded from our ASDI (US and Canadian airspace) server, RadarBox Network (worldwide coverage) and/or RadarBox Hardware.
Does this also mean your pulling live data from our RB's as this seems to be what is indicated.
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thx support,
i have forget that point of view.
Sorry.
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Hi DaveG,
We cannot pull Live data from your boxes as they only send the data out with a 5 minute delay.
Live Flight Data is aimed towards Proffesionals who are approved to use Live Data and they have a different version which allows to them to get access to data Live (that is from the hardware). They can also get data from the network but as mentioned above the network data is 5 minute delayed.
As to whether this has affected the price, nope not at all. The above software is based on Proffesional usage and has custom software made for it and also uses our ADSI data which Live Flight Tracker uses.
Hope that helps.
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Yep thanks it does.
Although I'd say the description I quoted above does seem to give the impression that it is a "normal" radarbox and does not say anything about 5mins delay. Hence one of the reasons I asked.
Thanks Again.
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The RadarBox hardware is the same, its actual software which is different :)
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We cannot pull Live data from your boxes as they only send the data out with a 5 minute delay.
I think the RadarBox should be able to send out data real-time. If the user decides wether or not to share he should also be the one to decide wether or not to share live.
Doro
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Can you please clarify which bits of the network functionality will be chargable. Obviously flight data from other Radarbox users is, but are the following also part of the chargable network access:
1. The aircraft data from GAS
2. Flight numbers, callsigns, etc.
3. The Navigraph data
4. Aircraft photos
5. Weather information
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Nothing else is chargeable, its just the network. :)
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This can be seen on the Radarbox Network Tab if you don't share Live data:
"You are not sharing data, if you share data for each hour of data sharing you receive
30 minutes of free network download usage. Click here to activate data sharing now."
Will this still apply ?
Regards,
Marinus.
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If you are using the network we so no reason why you should not be sharing. It does not not have affect on the running of RadarBox or your internet speed as the data bandwith is very small.
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If you are using the network we so no reason why you should not be sharing. It does not not have affect on the running of RadarBox or your internet speed as the data bandwith is very small.
As true as that may be, it doesn't answer my question ??
Regards,
Marinus.
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It won't force you to log off, but just give you that message.
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It won't force you to log off, but just give you that message.
Sorry, but that still doesn't answer my question does it ??
I'd like to know if in the future sharing for 1 hour still gives you a free
1/2 a hour of network download or that your intending to charge us for
the network download regardless of uploading or not.....
Marinus.
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Oh right sorry, caught the wrong quesstion. The answer is no. That message was before we were deciding on how the network would be run and managed.
You will need to pay for access to the network regardless whether you share.
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You will need to pay for access to the network regardless whether you share.
You might want to consider a pricing mechanism that encourages users to share their flight data, to reward those that share.
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Hi Tarbat,
This was considered in the past, have a search through the forum. Various posts on it and there is even details on the account page when you buy on how many credit hours you have (not used anymore) but is indication that we thought of this.
However regardless we felt the customers need to contribute something towards the server and running of the network. We believe those you who will pay will also be sharing and only very few will not share as it causes no harm to them to do so.
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If I remember correctly, at the beginning we had problems with the network and it was said that for those that had purchased there RB the first year would be extended. Can someone tell me then as to when the first year started or more like when the first year finishes!
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If I remember correctly, at the beginning we had problems with the network and it was said that for those that had purchased there RB the first year would be extended. Can someone tell me then as to when the first year started or more like when the first year finishes!
Good point Dave, I still have the emails sent direct to me telling me my year would be extended.
Mike
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September as till when 1.2 was released. This is only for customers who had issues and whom we have logged information (i.e sent support tickets or have support forum post where they mentioned the issue)
Edited as wrong information was put up earlier, apologies
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okay next question is how to claim that free time?
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You will need to email us when you free one years time expires. This is because it will be easier for us to handle that way as we won't get overloaded at once by peoples request. (also easier to change the account time settings)
Furthermore it will be an indication to us on how many customers are using the network. But don't worry we won't go back on our word if you are concerned as its all written on the forum :)
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nope not concerned very please with the way Airnav seem to be doing its work. So to clarify...
The free time will be from 1st September to when version 1.2 final was release for those that can indicate they reported issues either via forum or support.
Cheers
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Its till September 1st. So anyone who bought prior to September 1st last year and had issues will have there one years free network expire in September rather than there purchase date when they contact us (when there one year free network access expires as to there purchase date)
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okay thanks