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AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com => AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com Discussion => Topic started by: defcon333 on November 26, 2009, 09:27:05 AM

Title: anrb 3D
Post by: defcon333 on November 26, 2009, 09:27:05 AM
hi,
shouldn't the new "add-on" be released today. It's all so quiet? has the release date been postponed without any further notice?
can airnav say anything about what's going to happen with the 3d version? please!
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: AirNav Support on November 26, 2009, 09:52:15 AM
Its in Final Beta Testing, as we wanted to the base of the software to be based on Version 3.

We are hoping both are given the thumbs up very soon and we can release.
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: MrT on November 26, 2009, 10:16:52 AM
I asked the same question and you'd have thought I'd commited murder.

I'd say it's been well and truly delayed (read stuffed)!
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: AirNav Support on November 26, 2009, 10:22:35 AM
Not quite MrT, our beta testers are using it as we type.



Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: MrT on November 26, 2009, 10:27:51 AM
Not quite MrT, our beta testers are using it as we type.





Hmmm, pity the rest of us arn't
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: MrT on November 26, 2009, 10:30:53 AM
While I'm at it, why did you not get stuck into defcon333 for asking the same question that brought me so much hostility??

Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: AirNav Support on November 26, 2009, 10:34:55 AM
There was no hostility towards you. It was simply a small forum matter that you blew out of proportion.

We explained the reason why in your post:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=3881.0

defcon333 has asked the question for the first time and the topic about RadarBox 3D is not on the front page anymore so the situation is different.
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: Silver Doctor on November 26, 2009, 10:08:17 PM
Looking forward to getting 3D! When you say about that it will be based on Version 3, do you mean software version 3.11? Screenshots look great, can't wait to try it out.....
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: timelord on November 26, 2009, 10:25:14 PM
hello  can anyone tell me when radarbox airnav 3d is out, it was to be out today please anyone.
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: AirNav Support on November 26, 2009, 10:50:59 PM
Read the posts at the start of this thread :)
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: timelord on November 26, 2009, 10:53:01 PM
new member did not see it ths  looking foward to airnav 3d ths again
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: ACW367 on November 27, 2009, 02:06:19 AM
I have to love a company that is still answering queries on the most important public holiday of the year.  Support, Don't work too hard today.  Happy thanksgiving

ACW
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: viking9 on November 27, 2009, 09:58:58 AM
I have to love a company that is still answering queries on the most important public holiday of the year. 

Not in Europe, it isn't. :o)

Tom

Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: timelord on November 27, 2009, 08:39:48 PM
i heard that airnav radar box 3d is out in mid january 2010 is this true.
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: AirNav Development on November 27, 2009, 08:41:19 PM
That is not true.
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: timelord on November 27, 2009, 08:49:39 PM
good but can u tell me when it will be released
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: AirNav Development on November 27, 2009, 09:05:19 PM
It will start final beta testing today.
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: Silver Doctor on November 27, 2009, 10:51:57 PM
yes, but the question was when will it will be released....not when you will start testing. Can you give us a date?
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: AirNav Development on November 27, 2009, 11:02:10 PM
The date will depend on how the beta testing goes but we believe it's a matter of weeks/days.
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: Silver Doctor on November 28, 2009, 12:04:28 PM
Thanks. I'l keep checking back. It would be good to set up a system whereby people could register their interest in a new product/development, and then just receive an e-mail when the product became available. Just a thought......
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: timelord on December 02, 2009, 03:04:49 PM
hello any update on release of airnav radar box 3d, release date or time please .
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: timelord on December 03, 2009, 09:41:21 PM
hello just want 2 know will airnav radarbox 3D be out in december ? that is december 2009
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: Fenris on December 03, 2009, 10:10:10 PM
I don't think anyone is sure yet, Airnav have answered as accurately as they can.

Assuming the final v3.xx version is released soon, then there will be some work in producing a similarly updated 3D package, some final testing.

That could take a day, it could take 3 weeks.
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: timelord on December 03, 2009, 10:49:21 PM
ok brian ths for that. just wish they would release it soon.
 
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: radarspotter10 on December 03, 2009, 11:08:34 PM
It will start final beta testing today.
hi all
I think you will find that airnav will release the anrb 3D when they are happy with it,
myself and lots more users on the this airnav site appreciate this
thanks airnav for your development and upgrades.
from pat
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: timelord on December 04, 2009, 08:48:00 PM
ok radarspotter ths for that . would like to see more airnav 3D screen shots,come on airnav spill the beans i'm dying here it's christmas after all.
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: Jordan on December 05, 2009, 03:44:24 AM
will the 3D cost money?
I remember when it was just announced that airnav said it would proably wont cost anything...
though i did see on one of the MrT threads that it needs to be ordered..
anything about it?
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: nortonbeak on December 05, 2009, 09:52:20 AM
will the 3D cost money?

anything about it?

See

http://www.wsplc.com/acatalog/info_8959.html (http://www.wsplc.com/acatalog/info_8959.html)
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: Jordan on December 05, 2009, 03:13:26 PM
oh my god are you serious? 90 pounds?
thats a quarter of the whole price of the box
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: Boeing 737 on December 05, 2009, 04:02:02 PM
It does sound like alot of money to pay extra.

I certainly think a 30 day free trial would be useful to evaluate the 3D one.
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: Silver Doctor on December 05, 2009, 04:25:41 PM
Gotta agree with Jordan's reaction!!!! I was looking forward to it but based on that price, I think AN have lost a perfect opportunity. We have been drumming up potential new members based on the release of the 3D version. It looks so much better than whats there at the moment and makes it easier to get new members interested. However, while some may be willing to purchase the Radarbox, they see the additional cost of the add-ones too expensive to take the plunge. All our presentations go well until we get to the cost of the "add-ons" & upgrades.....then it aall goes pear shaped! Customers (and potential ones!) feel like they are just being sucked in and then ripped off.....very disappointing!! Wouldn't it be better to promote a reasonably priced product and drive for higher volume sales than implement such high pricing and force the Radarbox into an enthusiast market only???? Or maybe I'm just the unlucky one to live in an area hit by recent economic woes!! I just see a very shorted sighted strategy here, sorry......I'll just have to make do with my 2D!
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: CoastGuardJon on December 05, 2009, 04:45:32 PM
I'm perfectly happy with the 2D version, and would never consider paying to use the 3D which, IMO (and as I'm the one who'd be paying!), it is purely gimmicky and eye candy - very useful for air crash/near miss investigation, but not for me.    I'm just interested to know what's up there, but, each to their own!    Real-time I mght pay for.
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: Silver Doctor on December 05, 2009, 05:21:18 PM
Agreed John, especially when it comes to real time. I also agree with your "eye candy" comment, but in todays world these kind of updates are expected as part of the standard package....not something to pay large premiums for later. Plus its the "eye candy" that helps to create the initial impression and get new members first introduced to our club, ie, those kind of images generate a lot more initial interest and have more pulling power than the 2D images.....what we have found is that after that initial "pull in", many quickly lose interest when they see the cost...its typically only the real enthusiast that stays any way interested. If thats the sole target market of the product then no problem, if its targeted at a wider audience then our experience and evidence shows its definitely not effective. Anyway.....on with the show...thats someone else's worry...I'll jut enjoy the pieces I like!
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: jannuh on December 05, 2009, 05:38:31 PM
I'm happy with 2D and realtime @ PlanePlotter (pay once 25 euro!)

Tried 3d G.E. at PP, more a play function, nice to try a few times...
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: viking9 on December 05, 2009, 05:43:55 PM
I'd rather have free network with automatic multilateration to track non ADS-B aircraft.

Tom
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: AirNav Support on December 05, 2009, 05:54:12 PM
Just an update, RadarBox 3D is in Final Beta Testing currently, once we have more information to dates etc.. we will provide them.

Regarding some of the other comments. RadarBox 2D will still be updated etc. RadarBox 3D is a separate project and has no affect on 2D.

We are giving customers the choice, we are not forcing them. The cost of buying both a competitor product and RadarBox with the 3D version will be similar so we see no issue the cost. There also been a considerable amount of cost and effort been put into this project that we have to recoup.
Title: Re: anrb 3D
Post by: Fenris on December 05, 2009, 07:28:47 PM
oh my god are you serious? 90 pounds?
thats a quarter of the whole price of the box

But remember you're paying for the development costs incurred in producing the software, plus some profit. The actual RB hardware cost is probably about 10% of the purchase price, so you're paying for its utility to you rather than the cost of the parts.

The usual rule is that the manufacturer only gets about 1/3 of the retail price, because once you've removed the VAT and then the profit for the distributor, that's about what's left.