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Title: Not always getting alerts
Post by: GrizzFlyer on October 25, 2009, 05:49:21 PM
Occasionally I do not get alerted for aircraft that are on my alert list.  Just watched UAE9911 land at KTOL via Radarbox, and it is on my alert list.  It never triggered, and I tracked it all the way to the ground.  Checked my alert list again, everything looks OK.  Flight ID box is checked, that flight number is on my list.  Seems to work fine for registration alerts.

I was not getting flights from the network (my choice at the time), does that have anything to do with it? 
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: Johnn on October 25, 2009, 06:52:48 PM
Yes, I Agree, This Has Been Happening To Be Recently Too, I always have it on when the aircraft is within 10 nm of my location, but it does not trigger on to alert me?.
Sorry I could not help, as I have the same problem.
Johnn
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: CarlosAbreu on October 26, 2009, 09:35:44 AM
Hi to all

The same hapenned to me one week ago with a flight RZO128 from LPPD to LPPT, all data were correctly introduced and no alert was made.

Brgds
CA
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: sterigia on October 26, 2009, 04:13:01 PM
i put up alerts for emergency squawk codes with version 2 i got a pop up and a sound even if the aircraft was from the network. now i get nothing. is it  a known bug or am i missing something ?
ciao
frank
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: Tramline on October 26, 2009, 04:44:51 PM
I have the same issue with B742's.  Correctly entered into the system but rarely flag up despite being seen overhead as CKS / SOO flights.

I rely upon the alert system and was the main reason for using RB.  I'm using V2.01

I have no ideas as what to do?

Anyone?
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: Jeremy on October 26, 2009, 05:05:58 PM
i put up alerts for emergency squawk codes with version 2 i got a pop up and a sound even if the aircraft was from the network. now i get nothing. is it  a known bug or am i missing something ?
ciao
frank
frank,
Check that the check boxes in Alerts are ticked.
J.
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: sterigia on October 26, 2009, 07:51:53 PM
boxes are ticked, that is activate alerts for network flights and  squawk- both ticked i have 4 squawks activated separated by a simple space. must i put a semicolon or other punctuation mark between them?
ciao
frank
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: tarbat on October 26, 2009, 07:56:20 PM
......i have 4 squawks activated separated by a simple space. must i put a semicolon or other punctuation mark between them?

Put each squawk code on a new line (press enter), and make sure there's not a new line (enter) after the last squawk code.
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: sterigia on October 26, 2009, 08:07:12 PM
done. i have also shut down and reopened the program i'll wait and see
thanks for help
ciao
frank
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: Jeremy on October 26, 2009, 08:52:51 PM
boxes are ticked, that is activate alerts for network flights and  squawk- both ticked i have 4 squawks activated separated by a simple space. must i put a semicolon or other punctuation mark between them?
ciao
frank
frank,
How about the boxes on the left side?
J.
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: sterigia on October 26, 2009, 09:02:39 PM
i do not have boxes on my left side but on my right, until now no alerts play a sound and show a notificartion message are also ticked can you suggest me a prog to take a shot of the part so i can show you? freeware of course
ciao
frank
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: Jeremy on October 26, 2009, 10:11:18 PM
frank,
IN Alerts.
Tick Play a sound (then Broiwse for wav file in Data.)
 and Show notification.
J.
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: sterigia on October 26, 2009, 10:31:49 PM
already done it will not work all the same
ciao
frank
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: M on October 27, 2009, 02:55:57 AM
i put up alerts for emergency squawk codes with version 2 i got a pop up and a sound even if the aircraft was from the network. now i get nothing. is it  a known bug or am i missing something ?
ciao
frank
Squawk alerts don't work in any of the 3.x Betas. It's a bug.
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: RadarSpotter01 on October 27, 2009, 03:40:48 AM
Alerts work for me OK. In 2.01
Be patient, ver 3 whatever is getting there! At least their is some development with Airnav!
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: radarspotter10 on October 27, 2009, 05:13:06 AM
welcome to the forum RadarSpotter01
enjoy. pm me your callsign.
from pat
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: Fenris on October 27, 2009, 07:44:14 AM
welcome to the forum RadarSpotter01
enjoy. pm me your callsign.
from pat

Google is your friend Robbie!
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: sterigia on October 27, 2009, 09:01:08 AM
ok itìs a bug. do the developers know it?
ciao
frank
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: tarbat on October 27, 2009, 09:09:38 AM
Squawk alerts don't work in any of the 3.x Betas. It's a bug.

How come I just received a squawk alert then?

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2423/4049622402_959be20333_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: sterigia on October 27, 2009, 09:44:48 AM
the range works but the squawk codes do not, at least for me , or there have not beeen any emergencies declared since io set up the new beta
ciao,
frank
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: Fenris on October 27, 2009, 10:38:51 AM
Squawk alerts don't work in any of the 3.x Betas. It's a bug.

How come I just received a squawk alert then?


Maybe because you don't have aircraft un-highlight themselves either?

Your installation seems to be blessed Tarbat... :)
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: EK01 on October 27, 2009, 11:26:33 AM
I have alerts set up under Sqawk codes , mode S codes and registrations and they are all working for me both the message on screen and the sound. I am using version 3.06. Maybe a stupid question but have you ensured you have  ticked the appropriate boxes.
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: tarbat on October 27, 2009, 11:41:26 AM
Your installation seems to be blessed Tarbat... :)

And the key to solving these types of problem is to understand the differences between my installation and those having problems.  On alerts, check that each squawk code is on a new line, and that there aren't any extra spurious new lines in the list of squawk codes.
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: Fenris on October 27, 2009, 11:54:15 AM
Your installation seems to be blessed Tarbat... :)

And the key to solving these types of problem is to understand the differences between my installation and those having problems.  On alerts, check that each squawk code is on a new line, and that there aren't any extra spurious new lines in the list of squawk codes.

While I would agree with what you say, I think it's important that the program doesn't allow a setup that won't work. It should either give an error, or better, correct the error when it stores the alert settings in the registry.
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: sterigia on October 27, 2009, 01:49:21 PM
can someone give me  the most used  squawk code, i'll try that one
ciao
frank
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: MikeC on October 27, 2009, 01:53:41 PM
7000
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: sterigia on October 27, 2009, 03:12:32 PM
thanks,
frank
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: sterigia on October 27, 2009, 03:16:18 PM
i just got a popup with code 7000, seems there were no emergencies transmitted in the past days,
sorry for the trouble
again many thanks for help
ciao
frank
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: Fenris on October 27, 2009, 03:27:26 PM
i just got a popup with code 7000, seems there were no emergencies transmitted in the past days,
sorry for the trouble
again many thanks for help
ciao
frank

7700 codes are relatively rare, so they are not the best test of the alert system.

I'm pleased to see that if I get an alert for say registration and aircraft type, that the alert shows both reasons in the popup.
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: sterigia on October 27, 2009, 03:33:10 PM
a pity i cannot click on the alert popup and go to the plane on the screen directly to see where it is.
ciao
frank
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: Tramline on October 27, 2009, 03:50:20 PM
Can anyone offer any clues as to why B742's do not alert despite being correctly added in the A/c type box.

Very frustrating and just noticed B743's also do not alert - PZ-TCM for example often overflies but rarely alerts as a B743?
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: tarbat on October 27, 2009, 04:15:27 PM
Tramline, I just added B742 to my alerts, and straight away got 2 alerts.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2719/4050427180_65e483af59_o.jpg)

What exactly are you entering on the Alerts page?  Can you post a screenshot maybe.
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: DaveReid on October 27, 2009, 04:23:15 PM
Is it perhaps relevant that N703CK has ADS-B and PZ-TCM doesn't ?
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: Fenris on October 27, 2009, 04:33:07 PM
a pity i cannot click on the alert popup and go to the plane on the screen directly to see where it is.

Yes, I thought that would be a great feature too.

Is it on the wish list?
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: Fenris on October 27, 2009, 04:35:09 PM
Is it perhaps relevant that N703CK has ADS-B and PZ-TCM doesn't ?

How does an aircraft type alert work exactly? Is the AT broadcast in the Mode S frames or does it rely on a lookup in the database? If it is that multi-stage process it might not work if the intermediate results don't get found properly.
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: DaveReid on October 27, 2009, 04:56:22 PM
Is the AT broadcast in the Mode S frames

No

Quote
or does it rely on a lookup in the database?

Yes
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: radarspotter10 on October 27, 2009, 05:22:45 PM
can someone give me  the most used  squawk code, i'll try that one
ciao
frank
good site for codes.
http://www.nats-uk.ead-it.com/aip/current/enr/EG_ENR_1_6_en.pdf
from pat
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: DaveReid on October 27, 2009, 05:52:47 PM
7700 codes are relatively rare, so they are not the best test of the alert system.

They are indeed - I've had only two 7700s in the last 7 days (out of a total of around 29,000 flights/squawks recorded).

Top 10 squawks recorded over the last week:

CODE #
7000 558
0430  40
7710  40
7701  39
7706  39
0043  38
2252  38
7703  38
2226  37
2273  37

No contest, really, if you're looking for a the best squawk to use for testing purposes.
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: tarbat on October 27, 2009, 06:17:17 PM
Or even use 1* 2* 3* 4* 5* 6* 7*  (press enter between each code).

Will guarantee you get loads of squawk alerts!!
Title: Re: Not always getting alerts
Post by: sterigia on October 27, 2009, 06:31:29 PM
ok i will use wildcards for testing purposes
thanks for the idea
ciao
frank