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Title: New Hardware?
Post by: FlightChaser on September 05, 2009, 01:53:32 AM
Any chance that Airnav will be launching new hardware soon? I take on board new software releases, but are Airnav going to launch a box with an ethernet connection as well as USB? The SBS1e can be connected to over a network connection from a remote PC. That's a cool feature!
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: AirNav Development on September 05, 2009, 02:42:51 AM
Who knows what we are preparing. :-)
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: GlynH on September 05, 2009, 06:21:10 AM
Who knows what we are preparing. :-)

We don't but you have dropped a couple of hints...

But I agree built-in ethernet would be a great start for the hardware.

Lets hope it doesn't suffer the same fate as the ShipTrax hardware which was announced over 18 months ago as being ready by March-April 2008

http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=349.msg3246#msg3246

That's why I'm not asking for a release date...I'd probably have spent my money on the Kinetic SBS-3 MKII with built-in teasmaid by then! ;^)

It will of course come with software that properly supports multi-monitor setups or else I will be jumping ship so to speak...;^)

Regards,
-=Glyn=-
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: AirNav Development on September 05, 2009, 03:30:04 PM
GlynH: you are free to "jump ship" anytime, anyway I wouldn't suggest you to do so: our competitors haven't release an update to their software for the last 3 years. The ethernet feature, as reported by our dealers, has no interest for 99% of the users. For the rest of the users "Who knows what we are preparing. :-)".

Have a look at:
RadarBox vs Basestation - One on One Comparison Table

AirNav RadarBox vs Competition - Complete Analysis

Why AirNav RadarBox - Leaflet

BTW regarding your constant complaints about V3, we sent you an email 2 days ago to try to solve your problems in a faster way. No reply received yet.
Let us know if you received it.
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: GlynH on September 05, 2009, 04:03:58 PM
GlynH: you are free to "jump ship" anytime, anyway I wouldn't suggest you to do so: our competitors haven't release an update to their software for the last 3 years. The ethernet feature, as reported by our dealers, has no interest for 99% of the users. For the rest of the users "Who knows what we are preparing. :-)".

Have a look at:
<a href="http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/anrb/Software Compare V12.pdf">RadarBox vs Basestation - One on One Comparison Table</a><br>

<a href="http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/anrb/AirNav%20RadarBox%20vs%20Competition.pdf">AirNav RadarBox vs Competition - Complete Analysis</a><br>

<a href="http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/anrb/Why RadarBox - Leaflet.pdf">Why AirNav RadarBox - Leaflet</a><br>

BTW regarding your constant complaints about V3, we sent you an email 2 days ago to try to solve your problems in a faster way. No reply received yet.
Let us know if you received it.

You sent me an email??

Nope...haven't received anything from you but I am all for trying to solve my problems in a faster way...

Regards,
-=Glyn=-
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: GlynH on September 05, 2009, 04:28:11 PM
Hello again AirNav,

Well links 1 & 3 given above don't work because of the space before Compare & RadarBox respectively.

With all due respect - I remember saying this before somewhere - IMHO any manufacturers 'comparison' is worthless because they will only list features they have that the competition don't.

On balance I could probably think of 20 things for SBS-1 that RadarBox doesn't have.

This is the same for any manufacturers comparison tables not just yours and so I take then all with a pinch of salt! :-)

And either tell me what you have planned or stop posting teasers about 'what might be coming'...it's just not fair...I can't take it any more! ;^)

I hate to remond you but you have been saying the same about ShipTrax for over 18 months now...

You should wait. What we are preparing is something never seen in the Ship Tracking scene. :-)

You were right about one thing though...it is something we have never seen it...LOL

<ducking>

I can't take credit for spotting that but someone else around here can...you know who you are! ;^)

Regards,
-=Glyn=-
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: Allocator on September 05, 2009, 04:33:38 PM
Well links 1 & 3 given above don't work because of the space before Compare & RadarBox respectively.

I hate to remond you but you have been saying the same about ShiTrax for over 18 months now...

Regards,
-=Glyn=-

The links work OK for me.

I hope that your description of ShipTrax is a genuine typing error, otherwise my respect for you is rapidly going down hill, ducking or not.  I don't think that we need that sort of attitude Glyn.
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: GlynH on September 05, 2009, 04:56:15 PM
The links work OK for me.

I hope that your description of ShipTrax is a genuine typing error, otherwise my respect for you is rapidly going down hill, ducking or not.  I don't think that we need that sort of attitude Glyn.

Whoops...edited quickly <blush> I'll have a 'p' please Bob.

The links now work correctly for me and also appear correctly in the post (shorter) with out the %20 where some spaces were - edited.

Attitude? Geez...lighten up Gary. it was a genuine typo ...I also spelt remind incorrectly...

For those who have been waiting 18 months or more it might have been a more fitting description though...

Regards,
-=Glyn=-
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: Terry on September 05, 2009, 05:02:14 PM
OOOooooooooooooouch,
                                   Now,.now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                                                           Tissues and a new chair required Glyn?
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: AirNav Support on September 05, 2009, 05:25:40 PM
GlynH,

Firstly please watch your posts. We did email you to try and rectify an issue you were having, we were willing to give up time of one our developers to go through a sort an issue only you were having. So far we have had no reply and instead these kind of posts from you. (We have contacted you via PM now as well)

RadarBox by far has the most the wanted features that you could have compared to the competitors.
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: Fenris on September 05, 2009, 06:43:45 PM
The ethernet feature, as reported by our dealers, has no interest for 99% of the users.

I would have to be in that 1% minority again.

Ethernet is a huge win. I could connect my RB to my home network and be able to connect from my laptop, or from my work desktop, or indeed anywhere else. If you don't want it, it's because what it allows has not been explained to you properly IMHO.
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: Allocator on September 05, 2009, 08:14:42 PM
I did the 'self help' Ethernet (Jetvison) mod to my SBS-1 a couple of years ago.  Yes, there are advantages to having the 'box' on the Ethernet, and sitting in the garden with the laptop and the binos was one of them.  I didn't really take full advantage of it being on the network though and I haven't really missed this function with RB.  If I do want to access RB remotely, I use the free version of LogMeIn which works fine.  I certainly wouldn't object to having RB on my network, but I probably wouldn't want it enough to purchase another Ethernet equipped RB?

I'm still fairly happy that it's the RB software that's being updated to work with the existing hardware, rather than having to buy new hardware every year or so.
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: Fenris on September 05, 2009, 08:25:29 PM
I did the 'self help' Ethernet (Jetvison) mod to my SBS-1 a couple of years ago.  Yes, there are advantages to having the 'box' on the Ethernet, and sitting in the garden with the laptop and the binos was one of them.  I didn't really take full advantage of it being on the network though and I haven't really missed this function with RB.  If I do want to access RB remotely, I use the free version of LogMeIn which works fine.  I certainly wouldn't object to having RB on my network, but I probably wouldn't want it enough to purchase another Ethernet equipped RB?

My laptop is my only machine that can run the RB software, so I can't leave it on with the RB connected at home. Also, I'm not then reliant on the stability of the RB software when running remotely, in case it and the VNC or remote access method hangs the machine. I don't know if it will happen, but I prefer to rely on the typically very robust TCPIP connectivity over ethernet.

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I'm still fairly happy that it's the RB software that's being updated to work with the existing hardware, rather than having to buy new hardware every year or so.

True enough, I'd like to be able to use my existing RB perhaps with a new rear panel and connections to an expansion connector internally. I don't know if there is one on the RB. I know the SBS-1 has one.
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: GlynH on September 05, 2009, 11:03:37 PM
The ethernet feature, as reported by our dealers, has no interest for 99% of the users.

I would have to be in that 1% minority again.

Ethernet is a huge win. I could connect my RB to my home network and be able to connect from my laptop, or from my work desktop, or indeed anywhere else. If you don't want it, it's because what it allows has not been explained to you properly IMHO.


Your not alone Brian - I too would include myself in the 1% minority.

Everything here that can be networked is networked and that includes telephone system, CCTV, 3 x UPS, even my A/V amplifier is accessible through a web browser!

I have tried the Lantronix UBox which although not perfect does allow me to connect to my RB remotely.

I have also tried a few different USB->Ethernet applications but they all suffer from not having an easy way to disconnect my main PC when I want to connect from my MediaPC, laptop(s) either on the LAN or WAN.

It would appear we are in a minority of two if AirNavs figure is to be believed...although I am sceptical because of the 'as reported by our dealers' disclaimer...what do they know? ;^)

Mind you at least I am able to connect to RB via TCP/IP at a push one way or the other which is something I cannot do with my WiNRADiO G305...apparently the only way is to upgrade to the G315 which at $2800 plus an additional $265 for the Client/Server software option is pushing it a bit - even for me...:-O

I didn't see a category on Terre's excellent suggestions list/poll for hardware because Ethernet would be top of the pile for me followed by a decent BNC or preferably 'N' type antenna connector for an electrically & mechanically sound robust aerial connection without adaptor plugs/cables.

And a way to wall mount the box would be nice...and...and...:-)

Regards,
-=Glyn=-
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: GlynH on September 05, 2009, 11:17:14 PM
I did the 'self help' If I do want to access RB remotely, I use the free version of LogMeIn which works fine. 

Gary, don't you have any issues when you log on remotely and the screen resloution changes to match your remote PC?

Here for example I run my desktop at 1280 x 1024 but my laptop runs a maximum of 1024 x 768.

OK I can access my PC via MS RDP but it is a pain with screen redraw as I usually have multiple apps open but the biggest drawback is the size of the RB screenshot that is ftp'd to my web server changes from its usual 731 x 855 to something slightly different and that is enough to screw up the layout of the screenshot on my web page.

Probably easily remedied by some html work to the picture container on my website but slightly beyond my html knowledge (or interest level) I'm afraid...

Anyway far better than RDP/VNC/LogMeIn and much more robust would be a purely TCP/IP connection to the box itself.

I very nearly went down the SBS-1 road originally purely for the ethernet but that was a fiasco way back then what with Kinetic promising it for a year, then saying it couldn't be done for anothe ryear only for some enterprising user to figure it out and Kinetic mysteriously said it could be done after all.

That was what put me off the SBS-1...well that and the 'welcome' I got on the forum...remember that? ;^)

Regards,
-=Glyn=-
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: FlightChaser on September 06, 2009, 12:31:10 AM
Glyn I agree a more robust antenna connection is a must. Preferably an N type antenna connector, even if it involves a bigger RadarBox. The patch lead must involve losses. Ethernet is a feature I want on the RadarBox. But as the box is software controlled, it's unlikely to happen!
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: Allocator on September 06, 2009, 07:44:34 AM
I did the 'self help' If I do want to access RB remotely, I use the free version of LogMeIn which works fine. 

Gary, don't you have any issues when you log on remotely and the screen resloution changes to match your remote PC?


LogMeIn is excellent in that it allows you to choose the quality and definition of the viewed screen including full screen and multiple monitor viewing.  Of course, if you remote monitor your 22 inch screen using a Netbook, then everything is going to look a bit smaller - lol  However, you can view 'actual size' which does mean that you are only looking at a 'window' on your remote, but you can scroll around easily.

Give it a try - LogMeIn is free for what we want to do,  The pay version allows you to do much more like drag and drop files and remote monitor audio - this is good when you are controlling a radio remotely too, but too expensive for casual use.  You get a period of free access to the pay package until the trial ends, then it reverts to the free LogMeIn.
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: VK2GEL on September 06, 2009, 08:50:34 AM
+1 for ethernet.

I can't believe Airnav think ethernet is not worth including, especially as the competition have it.

Regards, Grant www.qrz.com/db/vk2gel
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: Allocator on September 06, 2009, 01:06:43 PM
I think that AirNav said something along the lines of Ethernet was not a high priority at the present, not that it wasn't worth including.  I'd rather see them concentrate on the software than diverting their effort elsewhere.

Regarding the completion, there is a significant price differential and you can only buy the box with Ethernet, so everybody has to pay whether they want the Ethernet option or not - same goes for their built in radio chip - you pay regardless.
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: Aerotower on September 08, 2009, 11:31:27 PM
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SBS-1eR

The SBS-1er is an affordable and light-weight Mode-S/ADS-B receiver that decodes transponder signals from aircraft. Included in the SBS-1eR is an Airband AM receiver and FM Stereo radio allowing the user to listen to ATC and aircraft, decode ACARS (using almost any third party package) or listen to FM radio.

Can you (Airnav) made this to?
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: AirNav Development on September 09, 2009, 12:36:35 AM
The answer is simple: who knows if we are already doing better than that?
RadarBox 3D has just been announced and in terms of hardware...

Regarding your point we don't like to comment this on our forum for "fair-play" reasons but as you asked:
- Airband receiver: it is just that, a receiver, not a scanner. You cannot scan the airband and as far as we know you need to buy a costly external software addon for it to work. You can buy a cheap airband receiver for USD$80 so why the upgrade to SBS-1eR when it is so limited in features?

- Ethernet as reported by our dealers is of no interest for 99% of the users (despite an interesting feature for more experienced users);

- ACARS Decoder: we have one for years available on our site and at shops for a very cheap price compared to a full SBS-1 upgrade (software based and easy to use, with more than 2000 users now);

Anyway we believe that they failed to describe the differences in terms of software between RadarBox and SBS-1 (and that is where the real differences are - you simply cannot compare the quality of both products and real world sales say it all).

We have them listed below:
RadarBox vs Basestation - One on One Comparison Table
AirNav RadarBox vs Competition - Complete Analysis
Why AirNav RadarBox - Leaflet

We are not trying to create an "Airbus vs Boeing" war here but the above are simple clear facts about both systems.
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: Deadcalm on September 09, 2009, 07:42:58 AM
"...- Ethernet as reported by our dealers is of no interest for 99% of the users (despite an interesting feature for more experienced users);..."

Where did you pluck that figure from?  I bet you there's more of an interest in ethernet than there is in 3D - have you got any figures for that?

DC

Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: tarbat on September 09, 2009, 07:46:20 AM
I bet you there's more of an interest in ethernet than there is in 3D - have you got any figures for that?

I guess it really comes down to what features are likely to appeal to new buyers, so that Airnav can sell more Radarboxes.  Surely that must be what any company would do - develop features that will sell more units.

In the current PC market, 3D is a key feature.
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: WiMo on September 09, 2009, 08:32:53 AM
- Ethernet as reported by our dealers is of no interest for 99% of the users (despite an interesting feature for more experienced users);

As a dealer of both boxes, I have a different feedback from customers. Admitted, the German market is certainly different, but still...


... and real world sales say it all).

As a dealer of both boxes... erm, ok, of course I won't divulge sales figures, but I wonder where you get the data you are refering to :-)

Rgds,
Ekki
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: Fenris on September 09, 2009, 09:18:23 AM
I bet you there's more of an interest in ethernet than there is in 3D - have you got any figures for that?

I guess it really comes down to what features are likely to appeal to new buyers, so that Airnav can sell more Radarboxes.  Surely that must be what any company would do - develop features that will sell more units.

In the current PC market, 3D is a key feature.

I wonder what you base that last comment on Tarbat? Personally I am unsure whether it would be a key feature.

At present, the comparison between the two competing systems is skewed by the lack of development of the software from the competition. If I were to buy a replacement for my RB now I would be stymied by the lack of ethernet support on the RB and by the lack of software development on the SBS-1. So actually I would not purchase a replacement until this is resolved.

If I were a new buyer, I might be tempted to wait until the hardware is roughly equivalent!

It seems to me that the combination of wanting to be able to take a laptop to somewhere you can physically view the aircraft and for the RB itself to be physically located near to its antenna, which for best coverage etc will not be the one supplied with the box, means that a networked connection instead of USB would be an ideal approach.
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: radarspotter10 on September 09, 2009, 10:37:47 AM
hi all
This so called air band receiver, only picks up the low air band,  its missing all the frequency's for the military air band,  people like the red arrows and do not forget about the military display teams,  i have been into the air band radio for the last 45 years this type of receiver can be got at any outdoor market  for £9.
Please do insult my intelligence by saying its a air band receiver.

And a big thanks to airnav for taking the time to discuss these things with us in there forum, 
and thanks for updating the software and keeping us informed about the beta tests, and a lot more.
from pat

Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: AirNav Support on September 09, 2009, 10:56:18 AM
We can tell you that from the requests sent to support, we have had very few mentioning ethernet or airband radio (or even wireless). 99% of the requests are software based anyway.

Out of those a vast amount said would be nice to have it linked with a Google Earth Style 3D map. Some of the requesters went on to say it would be great to view the sky as you can view from your window and be able to quickly point out what is what. (I am sure those of you spotting outdoors, this would be a great feature)

A lot of the active forum members must realise that while there are those who know the ins and outs of ethernet, wireless etc.. there is still a vast (silent majority) who don't and are happy.

The forum does skew towards those with experience of computers, the support queries we get sometimes even say we didn't want to post on the forum as didn't want to look silly.

Hope that explains a bit.
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: Fenris on September 09, 2009, 11:03:37 AM
It's your product Airnav, but if I don't mention my opinion then it won't get heard.

I am quite prepared to believe that things are not as they seem to us here.

If ethernet were put in a future product, it would need to be cheap enough not to discourage people from purchasing that don't need it or it would need to be an add-on module that would allow a user upgrade to be done.
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: Allocator on September 09, 2009, 02:59:34 PM
I'm sure they can if you want to pay an additional GBP 100 ;-)

I've already got a number ao airband scanners so I don't need a single frequecy radio chip in my RadarBox.
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: Allocator on September 09, 2009, 03:06:19 PM
Posting on my Blackberry - can't keep up with the thread!
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: AirNav Development on September 09, 2009, 03:16:02 PM
Like our support correctly said the forum tends to be visited by more experienced users. Actually we have many more units sold than...forum members. :)

Ekki: regarding Wimo, you are a different dealer and on of the very few that reports that SBS-1 still sells a number of units comparable with RadarBox. Maybe you need to do a real push to the product there.

3D is something has been waiting for for years. And it is not only 3D but real models of real aircraft. There is anew world waiting for this hobby.

One thing we can assure: we will no lie to our customers (we will not repeat ourselves here but unfortunately we are on a market where the competition often bases their marketing on false/erroneous statements) and we will always work daily to achieve what the want.

Always growing, working, developing, listening  to opinion and be in direct contact. Just what this message is.

And expect more great news from us soon. :-)
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: radarspotter10 on September 09, 2009, 03:16:14 PM
Posting on my Blackberry - can't keep up with the thread!
show off,  hi the big man has one, President Obama
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: Aerotower on September 09, 2009, 03:32:45 PM
Quote from: Fenris

If I were a new buyer, I might be tempted to wait until the hardware is roughly equivalent!

It seems to me that the combination of wanting to be able to take a laptop to somewhere you can physically view the aircraft and for the RB itself to be physically located near to its antenna, which for best coverage etc will not be the one supplied with the box, means that a networked connection instead of USB would be an ideal approach.


Yes, i am a new buyer(I'm waiting) and for me its very important to have a ethernet port, because i have only 1 PC and i need it to take to University. For me and for the new buyer is more important have the ethernet port than the 3D map.

Sorry for my english.
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: AirNav Development on September 09, 2009, 03:41:09 PM
We have AirNav Live Flight Data software that enables you to share received data on a TCP/IP port in a much more efficient way than an ethernet port as only relevant messages are send (decrease in bandwidth).

Please contact our support at [email protected] if you are interested in it.
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: GlynH on September 09, 2009, 04:36:47 PM
We have AirNav Live Flight Data software that enables you to share received data on a TCP/IP port in a much more efficient way than an ethernet port as only relevant messages are send (decrease in bandwidth).

Please contact our support at [email protected] if you are interested in it.

That's all well and good but all I am interested in is tracking aircraft that I can see from my house with my antenna not subscribing to yet another service.

For me the ability to 'logon' seamlessly to my RB from any PC in the house and also from my laptop when I am away from home would be a huge benefit to me.

I can actually do this now (of a fashion) but have to use USB->Ethernet hardware and/or software to achieve this but I have to use 3rd party utilities (which AirNav and its Distributor keep pointing out is one of the major advantages RB has over the SBS-1:-) and in any case is not as transparent nor effortless as connecting using TCP/IP to my own hardware for example.

I might take a look at ANLFD software though...although is there a reason you can't give details here and I have to contact support for info?

Regards,
-=Glyn=-
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: AirNav Development on September 09, 2009, 05:20:52 PM
Glyn, on a totally off-topic subject pls contact me asap as we are just waiting for you to release V3.03 to the beta testers. Rgd ANFD pls contact our support.
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: perezoso on September 09, 2009, 07:26:25 PM
+1 for me on the ethernet, or another way to view/control the RB via LAN. 

I'm sure 90% or more of us have the RB in a fixed location.  Mine, its in my office.

But I don't spend all my time in the office, and I sure would like to be able to view it with my laptop, say, when I sit down with a beer after supper.

But no can do that right now.  Have to sit in front of the office computer if I want to watch it.

Or heck, just let a single registration connect to the network two times simultaneously. So that, in my couch potato position, I could just run the RB software, login to the network, and view it that way....
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: tarbat on September 09, 2009, 07:51:07 PM
But I don't spend all my time in the office, and I sure would like to be able to view it with my laptop, say, when I sit down with a beer after supper.

That's exactly what I'm doing now,  Watching Scotland v Netherlands, and looking at my Radabox via. Teamviewer on my Netbook.
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: radarspotter10 on September 09, 2009, 07:52:09 PM
hi all
Let me get this right some people want this Ethernet thing so they can go to work and watch it
is this right,  i think my boss would have something to say about that,
I just do not understand what all the fuss is about,  is there no software you can buy  or my be some people want it free from airnav.
from pat
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: perezoso on September 09, 2009, 08:03:02 PM
But I don't spend all my time in the office, and I sure would like to be able to view it with my laptop, say, when I sit down with a beer after supper.

That's exactly what I'm doing now,  Watching Scotland v Netherlands, and looking at my Radabox via. Teamviewer on my Netbook.

Yeah, this is an option with my Macs too, built into the operating system ("share screen"); but it's a inefficient and awkward way to solve the problem. It would work much better to directly control the RB (or access the network) from with the correct application.
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: Deadcalm on September 09, 2009, 08:08:22 PM
Pat from Ireland (or Robbie, Valerie, or whatever), there is no fuss, just a number of us who appreciate the advantages of having the possibility of using ethernet with the Radarbox for their various and diverse reasons.  Nobody mentioned "free", and just because you don't understand why this potential development may be useful to many users, it doesn't justify daft comments like that.

DC
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: Aerotower on September 09, 2009, 09:00:57 PM
hi all
Let me get this right some people want this Ethernet thing so they can go to work and watch it
is this right,  i think my boss would have something to say about that,
I just do not understand what all the fuss is about,  is there no software you can buy  or my be some people want it free from airnav.
from pat

Ok I'll repeat:
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Yes, i am a new buyer(I'm waiting) and for me its very important to have a ethernet port, because i have only 1 PC and i need it to take to University.

Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: Allocator on September 09, 2009, 09:10:33 PM
Posting on my Blackberry - can't keep up with the thread!
show off,  hi the big man has one, President Obama

Yes, but big fingers and a small keyboard in the back of a moving car just didn't work too well - back on the laptop keyboard now - lol
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: Fenris on September 09, 2009, 09:35:31 PM
hi all
Let me get this right some people want this Ethernet thing so they can go to work and watch it
is this right,  i think my boss would have something to say about that,

Er, no, I would like to be able to connect remotely wherever I am. Other people's working arrangements may well be different from yours, it's not a valid reason for questioning their needs.

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I just do not understand what all the fuss is about,  is there no software you can buy  or my be some people want it free from airnav.

I don't want it free, but to get it at all I need there to be provision in the RB hardware for an ethernet port or an expansion header to allow an ethernet transceiver to be connected, plus TCPIP support on the processor internally.

There's no fuss, it's a request for consideration for future development.
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: Allocator on September 09, 2009, 09:46:59 PM

There's no fuss, it's a request for consideration for future development.


That seems fair enough.  A request to go on the list for consideration should new RB hardware be developed in the future.
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: radarspotter10 on September 09, 2009, 10:59:35 PM
Pat from Ireland (or Robbie, Valerie, or whatever), there is no fuss, just a number of us who appreciate the advantages of having the possibility of using ethernet with the Radarbox for their various and diverse reasons.  Nobody mentioned "free", and just because you don't understand why this potential development may be useful to many users, it doesn't justify daft comments like that.

DC
hi deadcalm.  (from the vulture forum or whatever)
I am glad your just a number, did the word free hit a nerve.
Who is Robbie, Valerie, tell them i said hello.
from pat

Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: DaveReid on September 10, 2009, 06:27:24 AM
hi deadcalm.  (from the vulture forum or whatever)
I am glad your just a number, did the word free hit a nerve.
Who is Robbie, Valerie, tell them i said hello.
from pat

Well said !

Just because all three of you come from Ireland, use all-caps for your sig line, and say "my be" instead of "maybe" proves nothing at all ...
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: Fenris on September 10, 2009, 06:44:29 AM
Just because all three of you come from Ireland, use all-caps for your sig line, and say "my be" instead of "maybe" proves nothing at all ...

Hmm. So you're not just good at decoding Mode S then Dave.....!
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: EK01 on September 10, 2009, 09:10:15 AM
But I don't spend all my time in the office, and I sure would like to be able to view it with my laptop, say, when I sit down with a beer after supper.

That's exactly what I'm doing now,  Watching Scotland v Netherlands, and looking at my Radabox via. Teamviewer on my Netbook.

Tarbat,

Wasted your time watching Scotland v Netherlands. Just as well you had your RB on as well. Much more interesting.

Ian
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: AirNav Support on September 10, 2009, 09:42:49 AM
Lets keep on the topic and stop in the infighting please. Thanks
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: DaveReid on September 10, 2009, 12:37:52 PM
Hmm. So you're not just good at decoding Mode S then Dave.....

I used to teach English, I notice these things :-)

In fact (getting slightly back on topic) you will notice in V3 that examples of "Portuglish" on some of the screens have now been changed to English, for which I can modestly take credit.  I won't embarrass anyone by pointing out what they were (and there are a few still outstanding which I've just reminded AirNav of off-list).
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: Fenris on September 10, 2009, 01:38:22 PM
Well, that's good, but I'm sure in my case my Portuguese grammar would be pretty bad!
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: aarbee on September 11, 2009, 02:31:35 PM
I also would appreciate an ethernet connection. As I am using an ION Atom box at the attic. And it does not perform that good, I must say.
If I remember when I had attached to my amd64 server from 6 years it performs zero.

Wether I use Terminal Server or not, it gets very sloppy when I use the network traffic. Though the processor is only used for 20-30%.

So if I could connect a network connection to the box, I could run the application  from my desktop.
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: FlightChaser on September 12, 2009, 03:58:00 AM
I guess i caused some discussion here!
Airnav - Ethernet is a real hardware requirement I guess :)
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: Aerotower on September 12, 2009, 10:55:37 AM
Hmm. So you're not just good at decoding Mode S then Dave.....

I used to teach English, I notice these things :-)

In fact (getting slightly back on topic) you will notice in V3 that examples of "Portuglish" on some of the screens have now been changed to English, for which I can modestly take credit.  I won't embarrass anyone by pointing out what they were (and there are a few still outstanding which I've just reminded AirNav of off-list).

Someone can explain me what is the problem of the Portuguese?
Thanks
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: radarspotter10 on September 12, 2009, 11:01:31 AM
Hmm. So you're not just good at decoding Mode S then Dave.....

I used to teach English, I notice these things :-)

In fact (getting slightly back on topic) you will notice in V3 that examples of "Portuglish" on some of the screens have now been changed to English, for which I can modestly take credit.  I won't embarrass anyone by pointing out what they were (and there are a few still outstanding which I've just reminded AirNav of off-list).

Someone can explain me what is the problem of the Portuguese?
Thanks
hi Aerotower
i am sure the headmaster would explain it like this.
Portuguese    
To speak a mixture of Portuguese and English at the same time. Intermingling of words in a sentence from both languages that only someone who speaks both languages, or has recently begun to learn the other, would understand.
from pat
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: Aerotower on September 12, 2009, 07:20:46 PM
Hmm. So you're not just good at decoding Mode S then Dave.....

I used to teach English, I notice these things :-)

In fact (getting slightly back on topic) you will notice in V3 that examples of "Portuglish" on some of the screens have now been changed to English, for which I can modestly take credit.  I won't embarrass anyone by pointing out what they were (and there are a few still outstanding which I've just reminded AirNav of off-list).

Someone can explain me what is the problem of the Portuguese?
Thanks
hi Aerotower
i am sure the headmaster would explain it like this.
Portuguese    
To speak a mixture of Portuguese and English at the same time. Intermingling of words in a sentence from both languages that only someone who speaks both languages, or has recently begun to learn the other, would understand.
from pat

But can you tell me where these words or phrases written in these two languages, the software RB? Best regards
Title: Re: New Hardware?
Post by: GlynH on September 19, 2009, 10:12:06 AM

Gary, don't you have any issues when you log on remotely and the screen resloution changes to match your remote PC?

Here for example I run my desktop at 1280 x 1024 but my laptop runs a maximum of 1024 x 768.

OK I can access my PC via MS RDP but it is a pain with screen redraw as I usually have multiple apps open but the biggest drawback is the size of the RB screenshot that is ftp'd to my web server changes from its usual 731 x 855 to something slightly different and that is enough to screw up the layout of the screenshot on my web page.

Probably easily remedied by some html work to the picture container on my website but slightly beyond my html knowledge (or interest level) I'm afraid...

OK..for anyone else who might have had the same problem with the map sort of being repeated if the original screen/map size chenged it was an easy fix.

I just added the no repeat line in my .css as follows;

}
#imagebox {
   width: 731px;
   height: 855px;
   background-image: url(images/RadarBoxScreenShot.gif);
   background-repeat:no-repeat;
   margin-top:10px;
}

Sorted!

That had been bugging me for a long time and had me spend ages in front of the PC trying to drag the RB map to give a finished dimension of 731 x 855

Might help somenone else who is as useless at html as I am! ;^)

Regards,
-=Glyn=-