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Title: Route information
Post by: John Racars on August 30, 2009, 10:07:33 AM
Hi All,

I am not sure or this is a known problem. Sorry for this message if so. I am asking me what happens here: look the interface below at the KLM-flight concerned:

(http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp18/Bierboum/Screenshots/11435008-30-2009.jpg)

Look what I have in my (lokal) database (which is the correct information):

(http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp18/Bierboum/Screenshots/11450108-30-2009.jpg)
Title: Re: Route information
Post by: DaveReid on August 30, 2009, 11:06:40 AM
I am not sure or this is a known problem. Sorry for this message if so. I am asking me what happens here: look the interface below at the KLM-flight concerned:

The route shown (EHAM-LGAV) is correct for PH-BXF today, it landed at Athens 20 minutes ago.  It's the flight number that is wrong, it was operating KLM1575, not KLM1167.
Title: Re: Route information
Post by: John Racars on August 30, 2009, 11:20:38 AM
It's the flight number that is wrong, it was operating KLM1575, not KLM1167.

Thank you Dave. That was exactly what I tried to make clear to you all. Why displayed RB the WRONG flightnumber together with the CORRECT routing while all the correct information is present in my (local) database.................????????

(http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp18/Bierboum/Screenshots/13223208-30-2009.jpg)
Title: Re: Route information
Post by: RodBearden on August 30, 2009, 11:57:48 AM
This is very similar to a problem I discovered during the closed beta testing only yesterday - with any luck these route discrepancies may be sorted in the next public release.

Rod
Title: Re: Route information
Post by: John Racars on August 30, 2009, 12:12:59 PM
This is very similar to a problem I discovered during the closed beta testing only yesterday - with any luck these route discrepancies may be sorted in the next public release.

Thank you Rod! Now the following case: no route information is been given while the information is available in my (lokal) database. The information was not on the map as well.

(http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp18/Bierboum/Screenshots/13542508-30-2009.jpg)

(http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp18/Bierboum/Screenshots/13561308-30-2009.jpg)
Title: Re: Route information
Post by: AirNav Support on August 30, 2009, 12:27:35 PM
Hi John,

Yes thats related to the same issue which should be fixed in the next release of the beta.
Title: Re: Route information
Post by: John Racars on August 30, 2009, 01:08:45 PM
Hi Support,

Thank you! I found an other exemple this afternoon; I think it speaks for it selfs:

(http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp18/Bierboum/Screenshots/14412608-30-2009.jpg)

the information from "GAS" about this two a/c:

(http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp18/Bierboum/Screenshots/14504008-30-2009.jpg)

(http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp18/Bierboum/Screenshots/14485708-30-2009.jpg)
Title: Re: Route information
Post by: RodBearden on August 30, 2009, 01:17:00 PM
Again, John, there is just one digit difference between the two Mode-S codes - perhaps, like your earlier example, it's a transponder problem on the Boeing?

Rod
Title: Re: Route information
Post by: DaveReid on August 30, 2009, 02:01:34 PM
Again, John, there is just one digit difference between the two Mode-S codes - perhaps, like your earlier example, it's a transponder problem on the Boeing?q

I'm not aware of any miscode history on PH-BQL.  Another possible explanation could be decoding errors with John's box - he does seem to be encountering more than his fair share of issues.
Title: Re: Route information
Post by: John Racars on August 30, 2009, 06:12:06 PM
Another possible explanation could be decoding errors with John's box - he does seem to be encountering more than his fair share of issues.

Hi Dave,

do you suggest that I should send my ANRB in for further examination? Support did not until sofar although they follow this topic.
Title: Re: Route information
Post by: John Racars on August 30, 2009, 06:19:44 PM
it's a transponder problem on the Boeing?

Rod,

I do not understand this. Why should the problem in this Boeing and not in the Piper? I see things like this where other a/c are involved. Maybe, like Dave suggest, is my RadarBox cause of all this errors.............
Title: Re: Route information
Post by: AirNav Support on August 30, 2009, 06:36:18 PM
Hi John,

It seems unlikely that the RadarBox hardware would be playing up and not decoding correctly.

Here is an example which common for quite a while to do with a transponder in a boeing set incorrectly.
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=1584.msg12393#msg12393

We will investigate further to whether RB may be the issue in this case, and check the software side out first.
Title: Re: Route information
Post by: DaveReid on August 30, 2009, 07:07:56 PM
It seems unlikely that the RadarBox hardware would be playing up and not decoding correctly.

Here is an example which common for quite a while to do with a transponder in a boeing set incorrectly.
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=1584.msg12393#msg12393

Yes, we know that aircraft are frequently miscoded, like the AAL B772 in your example.

However a characteristic of miscodes is that they are normally picked up by everyone monitoring the flight in question.

Here, OTOH, we are talking about an apparently spurious code that is being detected by John's RadarBox and nobody else's.  I'd be very surprised if it turns out to be a simple miscode.
Title: Re: Route information
Post by: Allocator on August 30, 2009, 07:11:37 PM
I checked MyLog to see if I've picked up the PA28 484515 PH-SVP, but it obviously hasn't been over this side of the channel.  I've got PH-BQL quite a few times.
Title: Re: Route information
Post by: AirNav Support on August 30, 2009, 07:17:27 PM
Yes we understand that Dave, the AA thread was a reply to his why boeing not piper question. Hope that clears it that up.
Title: Re: Route information
Post by: John Racars on August 30, 2009, 07:24:41 PM
It seems unlikely that the RadarBox hardware would be playing up and not decoding correctly.

Hi Support,

thank you again for your explanation! All is clear to me. I will wait for the results of your further investigations in all the rest and report to you again when I see some strange things.