AirNav Systems Forum
General => Aviation => Topic started by: oldun666 on August 27, 2009, 10:13:53 PM
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hi folk's being new to the rb, could anybody tell me what i have to do to recieve acars, i have the lead from comp to scanner and someone told me to d/load www.zorg.org which i have and downloaded the preface but when i click on monitor acars or pager, nothing happens do i need anything else ie software could somebody please tell me what to do in simple terms that a 62 yr old brain can understand, thank's all jeff.
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could anybody tell me what i have to do to recieve acars
Hi Jeff,
1. you should install ACARS-decoding software on your PC;
2. you should connect a scanner on an (outside) antenna and your PC;
3. make sure that software and scanner work together;
4. you should tune your scanner on one of (or all) frequencies mentioned in my signature below (when you are situated in Europe)
If you did as I described above you should recieve ACARS.
Hope this helps.
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There have been a number of free programs available to decode ACARS available on t'net. The sites seem to have slowly disappeared.
The only one I can readily find is for ACARSD and is
http://www.acarsd.org/download.html (http://www.acarsd.org/download.html)
Of course, AirNav have their own ACARS decoding program and details are at
http://www.airnavsystems.com/ACARS/index.html (http://www.airnavsystems.com/ACARS/index.html)
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Is that ACARS data translated into an aircraft position on the RB screen or does it remain as strings of data?
J.
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Is that ACARS data translated into an aircraft position on the RB screen
Hi Jeremy,
No that is not. ACARS is a way of communication between an aircraft and ground. It will be used for sending all kind of reports and messages like weatherinformation, clearances, failures/defects, flightplans, engineeringdata etc.
Below an ACARS-massage showing the next waypoint in the flightplan of this a/c that is actually enroute from Manchester to Doha in Dutch airspace:
ACARS mode: E Aircraft reg: .A7-ACH [A332]
Message label: 16 Block id: 7 Msg. no: M57A
Flight id: QR0042 [EGCC-OTBD]
Message content:-
ARNEM ,N 52.366,E 4.488,35793,271
-------------------------------------[28-08-2009 11:43]
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Below an ACARS-massage showing the next waypoint in the flightplan of this a/c:
What does this one mean?
ACARS mode: S Aircraft reg: VH-EBE [ ]
Message label: 87 [Aircrew addressed downlink] Block id: 7 Msg no: M37A
Flight id: JQ0037 [SYD-DPS] [JetStar Airways]
Message content:-
JST37 OUT 0741 OFF 0759
ETA 1405. DElAY DUE NOTUG DRIVER
----------------------------------------------------------[ 28/08/2009 18:08 ]
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Aircraft has delay due to "NOTUG DRIVER". Sorry, I do not know yet what that means...
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I presume it means that they can't get a pushback from the stand because the tug driver hasn't turned up. Bet they wish they were a turboprop with reverse pitch!
Rod
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I presume it means that they can't get a pushback from the stand because the tug driver hasn't turned up.
Hi Rod, thank you!
Sounds verry plausible to me.
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thanks for the info folks ive tried to d/load acars etc but to no avail my comp dosn't want to play, must be vista playing up.
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thanks for the info folks ive tried to d/load acars etc but to no avail
Which version of ACARS have you tried?
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hi there the one somebody told me about and which ive tried is www.nathan.chantrell.net thanks jeff
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Hi Jeff.
I used the old WACARS programme a long time ago and it worked fairly well.
You can still get it from here (http://users.telenet.be/ronny.stobbaerts/hampage/digital_modes/wacars.htm) but I don't think it is supported any more.
It may be OK for you as a start.
Doug
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but I don't think it is supported any more.
It was never...........
But with me it was always working OK as I can remember. I am not sure this software works together with the PC soundcard; if that is not so indeed, the use of an ACARS-decoder (p.e. Lowe Electronics) is necessary!
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Yes it does work with sound card input.
Not the best prog in the world but functional.
I have also used ACARSD and AirNav's too.
Just getting back into things after some time concentrating on other things.
:)
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hi there the one somebody told me about and which ive tried is www.nathan.chantrell.net thanks jeff
I can only find a blog. Is there an ACARS decoding program to download from that site?
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I can only find a blog. Is there an ACARS decoding program to download from that site?
There is an OLD, unsupported program there called PDW 110f – Pocsag program for Windows, decodes pagers using sound card (Also does Flex, ACARS, MOBITEX & ERMES) (366k)
I haven't tried it myself
http://nathan.chantrell.net/old-stuff/radio/radio-scanning/pocsag-pager-decoding/
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thanks a lot doug john and pjm i will try that and have a mess around appreciated.
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ACARS seems to be the long forgotten relative IMHO...
I would recommend AirNav's own ACARS Decoder but it is getting very long in the tooth now and is in drastic need of an update to bring it kicking & screaming into the 21st Century...nice to see photos of the aircraft and nicer to have a hook into the RadarBox software but the applications interface, options, configurability, fussiness about which soundcard you have along with its look & feel outweigh any advantages IMHO.
Regards,
-=Glyn=-
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ACARS seems to be the long forgotten relative IMHO...
I would recommend AirNav's own ACARS Decoder but it is getting very long in the tooth now and is in drastic need of an update to bring it kicking & screaming into the 21st Century...nice to see photos of the aircraft and nicer to have a hook into the RadarBox software but the applications interface, options, configurability, fussiness about which soundcard you have along with its look & feel outweigh any advantages IMHO.
Regards,
-=Glyn=-
ACARS is still regularly and heavily used.
The downside is the difficulty in extracting the positional information. AirNav did a fair job with their Suite 4, and Spikey Mikey with his PosFix add-on for it.
ACARSD does download photos. So there is even a freeware version that has that facility.
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ACARS is still regularly and heavily used.
Of course, I totally agree with this!!! Most of all (new) civil aircraft are supplyed with ACARS-equipment this days.
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ACARS is still regularly and heavily used.
I really hope AirNav start providing a bit more support for ACARS, updates to software decoders and hardware upgrades to RB.
I note the latest SBS-1er comes with a built in airband receiver!.
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ACARS is still regularly and heavily used.
I really hope AirNav start providing a bit more support for ACARS, updates to software decoders and hardware upgrades to RB.
I note the latest SBS-1er comes with a built in airband receiver!.
Yes it does, but it isn't a scanner and you can only listen to one frequency at a time. It doesn't decode ACARS signals either, although you can use it to monitor an ACARS frequency and feed the audio into 3rd party ACARS software.
Given a choice of either RB software updates, or hardware updates - I'd rather have the software :-)
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ACARS is still regularly and heavily used.
Hi nortonbeak & John,
I was referring to the ACARS Decoder software rather than ACARS itself!
Most of the programs I have noticed seem more than a little long in the tooth and forgotten about...
Kind regards,
-=Glyn=-
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Given a choice of either RB software updates, or hardware updates - I'd rather have the software :-)
I vote for both! :-)
Regards,
-=Glyn=-
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But the software updates have been free :-)
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Yes it does, but it isn't a scanner and you can only listen to one frequency at a time. It doesn't decode ACARS signals either, although you can use it to monitor an ACARS frequency and feed the audio into 3rd party ACARS software
It would be nice to have a purpose built "all in one" receiver. AirNav already have the ACARS decoder software to read from a soundcard, but I was thinking more along the lines of a fully integrated solution that does away with the soundcard and a seperate piece of software, and all communications to the PC would be via the USB (or a network) interface.
It would also be nice to have the option of taking the signal from the ADS-B aerial. While maybe not ideal, and a separate aerial socket for ACARS should still be available, it would be nice as an option.
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But the software updates have been free :-)
Yeah but I would pay good money to have the RadarBox accessible on my network through an ethernet interface for example.
And not to mention software that might work for me also...:-/
Kind regards,
-=Glyn=-
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Yes it does, but it isn't a scanner and you can only listen to one frequency at a time. It doesn't decode ACARS signals either, although you can use it to monitor an ACARS frequency and feed the audio into 3rd party ACARS software
It would be nice to have a purpose built "all in one" receiver. AirNav already have the ACARS decoder software to read from a soundcard, but I was thinking more along the lines of a fully integrated solution that does away with the soundcard and a seperate piece of software, and all communications to the PC would be via the USB (or a network) interface.
It would also be nice to have the option of taking the signal from the ADS-B aerial. While maybe not ideal, and a separate aerial socket for ACARS should still be available, it would be nice as an option.
Well according to Wally & Standoff the UK Distributor it will never happen.
They took another cheap shot at the competition here;
http://www.wsplc.com/acatalog/Radarbox_2009.html
This continued sniping might (should) cost them dearly as I see they also advertise & stock the FlexRadio & WiNRADiO range of computer controlled receivers...bet the manufacturers of those two devices are pleased...NOT!
I am also intrigued as to what this is all about, quote;
"Stand by for a most amazing software update coming end of August. It will blow the competition away!!"
Virtual Semtex maybe? ;^)
Kind regards,
-=Glyn=-
In case the above link does not work (or you are too lazy to click the hyperlink;
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Why we do not recommend the idea of a radio built-into RadarBox.
At the present stage of technology, we have found that the noise generated from most PCs will cause interference to reception, particularly as airband radio operates on AM. This makes the problem even more difficult. And of course, there is little point in buying a system where your radio cannot be used away from the PC. Most enthusiasts want to take their radios out and about. For this reason we advocate a separate radio and can particularly recommend the Black-Box, a radio designed for airband reception that requires no tuning and can even be operated legally inside an aircraft cabin - subject of course to the usual restrictions about operating when an aircraft is taking off or landing.
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Obviously never heard of ACARS then although they do advertise the AirNav ACARS Decoder...