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Title: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: AirNav Development on July 23, 2009, 12:18:24 PM
We are happy to announce the release of AirNav RadarBox 2009 - V3.01 Beta software. This new patch corrects all the pending problems present on the previous beta. The software is still in beta stage which means we are open for problem reports which should be send to this topic.

Full Download (106 Mb including all translated manuals):
http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/anrb/ANRB301BetaSetup.exe

Upgrade from previous versions (91 Mb including all translated manuals):
http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/anrb/ANRBUpgradeto301Beta.exe

Manual update  (2 Mb):
1- Download and copy the file below to your "AirNav RadarBox" folder overwriting the existing file:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/anrb/anrb301BetaManual/ANRB.exe

2- Download and copy the file below to your "AirNav RadarBox\Data" folder overwriting the existing file:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/anrb/anrb301BetaManual/L007.dat

Corrected problems (from V3.0 Beta):
- Fully compatible with all SBS-1 addons (you may now use any of our competitor addons which require port access only);
- Addition of the History Panel to the MyFlights grid;
- Improved Popup menu for the MyFlights Grid;
- Much better network synchronization capabilities;
- Translated Help/Manual Files available on installation;
- Corrected error on alerts/email;
- Some machines software does not start
- Corrected: aircraft on map disspearing and returning with zoom;
- Corrected: Mylog Position Lat and Long Entries are wrong
- Corrected: vector of an airplane changes a direction for 180 degrees
- Corrected: timeout issues on the network causing aircraft to stay there for ages
- Corrected: full screen and then return does not show map/aircraft
- Corrected: duplicate Entries of flights in MyLog, required longer timeout
- Corrected: route algorithm and sometimes wrong routes are being displayed
- Corrected: Range alerts not working
- Corrected: Company combo box not working
- Corrected: Font issue with commas and dots in custom legend
- Corrected: Filter to last ten minutes or one hour in MyLog Missing
- Corrected: No icon to resize interface window shown
- Corrected: Entries of closed maps in windows menu
- Corrected: Error message in preference menu
- Corrected: The 'execute a file' box is always ticked in alerts
- Corrected: Too many fixes being shown
- Corrected: Wrong altitude on aircraft on ground / NW Flights
- Corrected: no polar plot in saved images
- Corrected: USA and Canada with correct time
 
Previous official full list of suggestions/improvements:[/u]
- 20% more flight IDs received: decoding of more mode-s protocol frames;
- Tracking of aircraft sending ADS-B information on ground;
- Possibility of writing custom labels on map;
- Optional retrieval of flight information data from online database;
- Flights without callsign information added to MyLog;
- New/Updated AIRAC cycle: more than 100 thousand updated aviation database (airport, runway, VOR, NDB);
- Ability to zoom in closer. Hi-Res airport outlines / track aircraft in taxiways;
- Possibility of auto populating aircraft information without downloading photos;
- Improved Algorithm for the transition of network flights to live (and live to network);
- Corrected problem with Slow Menus on certain machines;
- 1698 Airline Logos (many of them reviewed);
- 404 Country/Military Flags;
- UK/Ireland Time on status bar now shown correctly;
- Choose to show/hide Home position on map;
- Alerts/Reports email reports now sent from central server;
- Improve user awareness of incompatibility with AVG Anti-Virus (easy to add exception);
- More application data being worked inside threads: application runs faster;
- Preferences box now fits different screen resolutions;
- FTP Upload status information on status panel;
- "Purple rain/invalid positions" problem corrected;
- Improved Logo decoding routine: fully compatible with ICAO, IATA, Military and private jet flight codes;
- Option to show/hide Home Legend
- Registration/multiple alerts now working correctly;
- Weather List clearing problem corrected;
- Aviation Signs in Menu status updated;
- Email Alerts at consecutive days problem corrected;
- Duplicates in the Reporter bug corrected;
- Remember of Last Color Used;

To all the team involved, especially the dedicated beta-testers a huge thank you!
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: colinhall on July 23, 2009, 12:35:00 PM
Well done everyone to get this out so quickly. Will be downloading this as soon as I get hope. thanks all. Colin Hall.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: snowman on July 23, 2009, 12:56:52 PM
Hi

Thanks for the latest update - have just downloaded and run but can't see how to get the Up/Down arrows, I'm still getting +/-
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: sterigia on July 23, 2009, 01:04:35 PM
just installed on my vista machine, seems to work well for now
frank
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: slipdog on July 23, 2009, 01:45:24 PM
Hey thanks,

This is Awsome news, i am downloading it now.

Really looking forward to having a play around.

A big thanks to you guys.

Cheers
Rich.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Canonjohns40D on July 23, 2009, 03:13:23 PM
Superb news. It is raining, thunder and lightning, roads flooded and it's black as night here in Belfast. So I can't wait to get home from work and download the patch. Looking forward to the changes.

John
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: radarspotter10 on July 23, 2009, 03:36:18 PM
hi.
downloaded and going great this end,thanks boys and girls at AirNav Development.
fro pat
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: callan on July 23, 2009, 03:48:10 PM
Hi,

it's working nicely now with Windows XP sp3.

Thanks to all at Airnav

Callan
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: tarbat on July 23, 2009, 03:52:05 PM
Thanks for the latest update - have just downloaded and run but can't see how to get the Up/Down arrows, I'm still getting +/-

As answered in other threads, the up/down arrows change was abandoned.  See http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=2893.msg25950#msg25950
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: mdobuk21 on July 23, 2009, 04:04:09 PM
hi guys,

where is the history panel on myflights?

Mark
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: tarbat on July 23, 2009, 04:06:46 PM
where is the history panel on myflights?

MENU ==> Tools - Show Flight History
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: jgrloit on July 23, 2009, 04:23:03 PM
The plotting of the Polar diagram leaves the radial lines in the display.
These disappear if you the display of the polar diagram off, then On again.

Will save the screen shortly with a part old and part new polar.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: velcrohead on July 23, 2009, 05:20:35 PM
Working great on Virtual XP within Win 7.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: dumpty on July 23, 2009, 05:25:39 PM
Thanks Airnav

My only problem is I am still not getting alerts.

Hope you can help.

Simon
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: dumpty on July 23, 2009, 05:32:44 PM
It is only flight id alerts that dont work.The others all work fine.

Hope someone can help.

Simon
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: snowman on July 23, 2009, 05:34:09 PM
Thanks for the latest update - have just downloaded and run but can't see how to get the Up/Down arrows, I'm still getting +/-

As answered in other threads, the up/down arrows change was abandoned.  See http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=2893.msg25950#msg25950

Then why is it still being listed in the suggestions/Improvements ? After a career spanning 30+ years in ATC I find it hard to get my head around the +/- rather than the up/down arrows. I live in hope ;)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: afo47 on July 23, 2009, 05:59:31 PM
all is ok with XP sp3 and also on Vista.
Jstars ok at least but no chance with BS alert
(it start and says : '' is not a valid integer value...something
on port 30003 is different that on sbs1 )
with telnet port 30003 is ok : MSG 1,3,4,5,6 here but
no air to air MSG7 and i have not seen MSG8.
Will try to compare with my sbs1 at the same time.
SBS/RB MilLog is OK also ...i can look
mil. acfts from my location (Frontera)
I have tried 2 versions of Squawkbox and nothing.
Now the program is becoming interesting
good job
JEAN
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: marcdeklerk on July 23, 2009, 06:02:57 PM
Thanks guys
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Blincodave on July 23, 2009, 06:13:17 PM
My first post having 'watched' this forum before deciding to buy. Purchased my Radarbox yesterday and uploaded 3.01 today. Very impressed with this product. I have previously owned an SBS-1.

I'm running on XP and notice that although I've ticked just to autopopulate the aircraft data, I'm still receiving downloaded photos despite leaving this option unchecked.

Dave
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: EK01 on July 23, 2009, 06:24:12 PM
Didn't bother with the patch but downloaded the full version. So far, everything working well on my Vista machine.

A big well done to all concerned.

Ian
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: sterigia on July 23, 2009, 06:34:19 PM
i have to correct myself: network activity goes down to zero every now and then
frank
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Squad 701 on July 23, 2009, 07:00:03 PM
i have to correct myself: network activity goes down to zero every now and then
frank

Also the only thing I noticed, the Network dropping in and out.
Can't miss that one really :-)
Otherwise the ball is rolling in the right direction.
Cheers.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Blincodave on July 23, 2009, 07:15:09 PM
I've got the network dropping in and out as well.

Dave
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Allocator on July 23, 2009, 07:16:48 PM
It might be a server problem.  AirNav Support has acknowledged this issue on another thread.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: lovemuscle on July 23, 2009, 07:29:32 PM
Downloading as i type this,cheers all your fast i give you that,lets hope my alerts work now..gaz :)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Allocator on July 23, 2009, 07:35:00 PM
I'm running on XP and notice that although I've ticked just to autopopulate the aircraft data, I'm still receiving downloaded photos despite leaving this option unchecked.
Dave

The thumbnail pictures are downloaded and saved to your PC, so when you deselect the photo and autopopulate options, you still have those thumbnails available - as you will if you operate your RadarBox mobile without an Internet connection.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: jgrloit on July 23, 2009, 08:14:55 PM
Polar diagram, with working lines as radials attached.!!
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: dl1812 on July 23, 2009, 08:24:34 PM
Well Done AirNav - works for me ! - I'm using both Vista Home Premium and XP Pro.
I actually posted a comment about not being able to save colour changes, but I then discovered the "export" button - Dur !

A question - is there any way that I can save the altitude settings I normally use, to save changing them every time I open RB ?
Thanks in anticipation

Dave L
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Terre on July 23, 2009, 08:33:50 PM
*jgrloit
Can you describe your problem as I dont see anything wrong on the screenshot.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: jgrloit on July 23, 2009, 08:38:49 PM
The problem as mentioned in a previous message is that the Polar diagram still has a number of the radial "construction" lines, rather than those lines having been cleared out.
They only disappear if you turn the display of the polar off then back on!!!

Did not happen on the 3.00 beta.
Only noticable if you clear the polar right down and start again, as I have needed toas I have had the unit mobile between Newcastle, Eastbourne, Stranraer and back home to Hexham.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Terre on July 23, 2009, 08:40:25 PM
@dl1812

If you refer to the Elevation colors: they will get stored when doing an export, as will the complete colors that you have set. You call up a defined color set via the menu MAP > COLORS > 'yourcolorset' or via the toolbar. I suggest to name the exported colorset to something different then the presets, eg. "Newcolor3'.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Terre on July 23, 2009, 08:44:36 PM
*jgrloit

Ok, thanks for your explanation: I do see them now. Strange thing. Never saw that on my system using any version of anrb. Any possibility this is some graphics driver or graphics settings issue?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: dl1812 on July 23, 2009, 08:47:26 PM
Terre,

Sorry, poor explanation - I was talking about setting the Altitude so that (for example) only aircraft above 4000' will show.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Terre on July 23, 2009, 08:58:17 PM
@dl1812

I see. You might want to use a quick filter for that, though it will not set the filter automatically at start up. Set the Advanced filter for the Altitude as needed and then save the filter via FILTER > SAVE FILTER AS. Activate the filter after start up via the Quick Filter tool bar.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: dl1812 on July 23, 2009, 09:01:27 PM
Terre,

Many thanks for that; as you may have guessed, I am a doughnut when it comes to Computers - which therefore for me makes this forum invaluable.

Thanks again

Dave L.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: ACW367 on July 23, 2009, 09:16:40 PM
How do I move the myflights list back to the left hand side of the map.  It is stuck to the right of the map, squashed with only 2 columns visible.  The only expander appears on the right butted up against the screen edge.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: RodBearden on July 23, 2009, 09:27:08 PM
ACW - Menu - Tools...Interface...Interface on Left.

Hope that helps

Rod
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: RodBearden on July 23, 2009, 09:50:16 PM
Has anyone else noted that there have been some updates to the runways at some airports - for example, I'm sure the third runway at SeaTac wasn't there before.

I don't remember AirNav saying anything about this. Anyone spotted other examples?

Rod
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: lambertw on July 23, 2009, 10:34:37 PM
Did manual install of patches, all working fine,"well done AIR Nav".
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Canonjohns40D on July 23, 2009, 10:41:58 PM
Another satisfied customer here also. This just gets better and better, well done Airnav and you Beta testers.

John
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: ACW367 on July 23, 2009, 10:47:21 PM
cheers Rod, Couldn't find it for looking
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: AirNav Development on July 24, 2009, 01:35:58 AM
First we would like to thank all the positive opinions we had until now.
Keep your reports/suggestions coming.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Rerun57 on July 24, 2009, 06:57:24 AM
Hello

Many thanks to all for correcting the alerts/e-mail issue. It now works fine except for point noted below.

Is it possible to customize the data fields that appear in MyLog and reports? Being able to include callsigns/Flight IDs would be good - or am I missing something?

The alerts for Flight IDs do not seem to work at the moment. Might it be possible to include the use of a wildcard in the criteria for alerts by Flight ID?

All in all - a superb piece of kit!

Adrian
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Allocator on July 24, 2009, 07:31:13 AM
The alerts for Flight IDs do not seem to work at the moment. Might it be possible to include the use of a wildcard in the criteria for alerts by Flight ID?

I'm sure you can use wildcards in the Flight ID Alerts section.

One of the problems you can have with Flight ID's is the way that the crew put the ID into the system.  I might use this just to make sure I get alerted on a single flight:

BA10
BAW10
BA010
BAW010
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta help
Post by: davec on July 24, 2009, 07:43:12 AM
hi i am having a problem installingv3.01 i get the message;
this application has failed tp start beacuse rb.11was not found reinstalling the application may fix the problem.
anybody help please
davec
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: AirNav Support on July 24, 2009, 08:03:28 AM
davec,

Did you do full install or the manual one?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: vonsmalhausen on July 24, 2009, 08:55:47 AM
hi i am having a problem installingv3.01 i get the message;
this application has failed tp start beacuse rb.11was not found reinstalling the application may fix the problem.
anybody help please
davec

i had the same problem on my Vista laptop ( on my XP desktop all wen't OK )
open the Airnav folder and probably you will see 2 RB folders in it : the 3.0 beta and a new one, just called RB 2009 ; i just cut/pasted the contends of the new one in the "original" one, and voila : RB 3.01 works fine.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: vonsmalhausen on July 24, 2009, 09:07:08 AM
i still have a problem with the outlines and station names ; to get the outlines in the "airport collor" and display all the names of the VOR stations ( some are showing right away ) i have to locate first LFPG ( Paris CDG ) afther that all stations and names display correctly !? ( it does'nd work if i locate a other airport in my list, it seems it has to be the last in the dropdown list )
apart from this, all works great now, and verry happy with the "FIX fix"
great job Airnav.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: DaveReid on July 24, 2009, 10:28:27 AM
- Fully compatible with all SBS-1 addons (you may now use any of our competitor addons);

I think what you mean is "Fully compatible with all SBS-1 addons that use the 30003 port output"

Clearly other add-ons that interface directly with the database won't be compatible as the RB's and SBS's databases are different.

That's not mean as a criticism, simply a clarification.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Roadrunner on July 24, 2009, 10:32:59 AM
Have downloaded ANRB 3.1 beta to both an XP and Vista machine and it runs perfectly on both. However, has anyone tried adding a SQB file to V3.1?

The reason I ask is that I have just done this to my XP machine and on every attempt bar one it stopped importing after varying times and when it stopped importing the program quickly closed itself with no warnings. On the final (7th attempt) it actually showed on the bottom line that it had imported 21,023 of 22946 and then closed down. On re-opening ANRB I found that only 19,800 had actually made it. I can live with it not bringing all records in (I assume there was something it did not like about the missing records, but the quick, unprovoked closedown is a problem.

Mike
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: AirNav Support on July 24, 2009, 11:02:44 AM
DaveReid,

We have ammended the details. Thanks

Roadrunner,

Can you send us the file your using.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: abrad41 on July 24, 2009, 11:15:30 AM
I have just done a manual install here - and upto now everything is working as it should be.

Thank you AirNav for all the hard work you have done, getting the software working how it should be.

Keep up the good work.

Andy
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Allocator on July 24, 2009, 11:34:02 AM
- Fully compatible with all SBS-1 addons (you may now use any of our competitor addons);

I think what you mean is "Fully compatible with all SBS-1 addons that use the 30003 port output"

Clearly other add-ons that interface directly with the database won't be compatible as the RB's and SBS's databases are different.

That's not mean as a criticism, simply a clarification.

After all that hard work getting the port 30003 output right, nobody seems to be using it!
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Roadrunner on July 24, 2009, 11:54:58 AM
Roadrunner,

Can you send us the file your using.

AirNav Is that the .sqb file you would like to see.

As an update, I tried exactly the same .SQB file which failed on my XP desktop PC on my Vista laptop and it loaded the complete file and took in 22,919 of the 22,946 records in seconds and remained open. So for now I have copied the mylog file from my laptop back to my desktop PC and it is working OK.

I can send a copy of the sqb if it will help

Regards

Mike
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: DaveReid on July 24, 2009, 01:07:36 PM
After all that hard work getting the port 30003 output right, nobody seems to be using it!

Maybe because it's no longer real-time   :-)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: radarspotter10 on July 24, 2009, 01:30:45 PM
After all that hard work getting the port 30003 output right, nobody seems to be using it!

Maybe because it's no longer real-time   :-)
hi dave
Does the squawk still work real time, i used that all the time, but its useless now.
from pat Ireland
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: tarbat on July 24, 2009, 01:41:11 PM
MSG,n type messages on port 30003 are 5-minute delayed.  Others, such as AIR, ID, SEL, etc. are real-time (I think).

Squawk is 5-minute delayed - I just wish Airnav had incorporated Squawk Code lookup in v3, but it didn't make it into the final version :(  I really miss the ability to get automatic squawk code lookups in real-time, the only backward-step in v3.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: radarspotter10 on July 24, 2009, 02:22:00 PM
MSG,n type messages on port 30003 are 5-minute delayed.  Others, such as AIR, ID, SEL, etc. are real-time (I think).

Squawk is 5-minute delayed - I just wish Airnav had incorporated Squawk Code lookup in v3, but it didn't make it into the final version :(  I really miss the ability to get automatic squawk code lookups in real-time, the only backward-step in v3.


yes tarbat.
i loved it myself, it was a great add on, but the 5 min delay kill it, the squawk code is now useless.
from pat
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: tarbat on July 24, 2009, 02:23:35 PM
yes tarbat.
i loved it myself, it was a great add on, but the 5 min delay kill it, the squawk code is now useless.

Try convincing Airnav to include it in v3. as they originally planned to!!
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: John Racars on July 24, 2009, 02:24:42 PM
Many thanks to all for correcting the alerts/e-mail issue. It now works fine

Hallo Adrian,

I do not understand that. With me the alerts/e-mail function is still NOT working. Maybe I do something wrong but I do not see what. The only thing I know is that it was working verry well in versions before the Beta's...
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: davec on July 24, 2009, 05:04:43 PM
hi airnav development,i have tried installing the new patch all three ways ,just coming up as i said before this aplication hasfailed to start beacuse rb.di try restarting the application etc, when the beta 3,0 came out i had to do a new full down load lossing all my data, which is a real pain as i have put a load of new routes in the new beta, i tried cut and paste that didnt work either , i have a new pc with windows xp
any ideas
thanks davec
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Fenris on July 24, 2009, 05:40:41 PM
MSG,n type messages on port 30003 are 5-minute delayed.  Others, such as AIR, ID, SEL, etc. are real-time (I think).

Squawk is 5-minute delayed - I just wish Airnav had incorporated Squawk Code lookup in v3, but it didn't make it into the final version :(  I really miss the ability to get automatic squawk code lookups in real-time, the only backward-step in v3.

I'm still struggling to understand why messages that do not contain positional information are delayed on port 30003, I thought I remembered reading some time ago that Airnav accepted that it was only these messages that had to be delayed. Since then the position has become increasingly unclear to me.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: AirNav Development on July 24, 2009, 06:01:30 PM
davec: contact our support at [email protected] and they will help you.

Fenris: MSG messages are delayed, SEL and AIR are real-time. Isn't this the way it works in SBS-1 output port? Remember this is still a beta and we are open for changes/corrections so no panic! :-)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: marcdeklerk on July 24, 2009, 06:12:52 PM
Airnav, may I have the google earth maps back please!

or maby an option to select between the new maps, and the google earth ones.

The resolution down South here is very bad using the current "new" map. Google earth was perfect for me.

Also I see I am getting duplicate entries in the Reporter:
00AFC5  SAA AA06                 ZS-SBS  B744  South African Air... 2009/07/24 15:42:27 
   00AFC5  SAA AA06                 ZS-SBS  B744  South African Air... 2009/07/24 15:43:06 
   00AFC5  SAA AA06                 ZS-SBS  B744  South African Air... 2009/07/24 15:43:35 
   00AFC5  SAA060                   ZS-SBS  B744  South African Air... 2009/07/24 15:42:46 
   00AFC5  SAA060                   ZS-SBS  B744  South African Air... 2009/07/24 15:42:47 
   00AFC5  SAA060                   ZS-SBS  B744  South African Air... 2009/07/24 15:43:40 
   00AFC5  SAA060                   ZS-SBS  B744  South African Air... 2009/07/24 15:44:05 
   00AFC5  SAA060                   ZS-SBS  B744  South African Air... 2009/07/24 15:44:25 
   00AFC5  SAA060                   ZS-SBS  B744  South African Air... 2009/07/24 15:44:55 
   00AFC5  SAA060                   ZS-SBS  B744  South African Air... 2009/07/24 15:45:45 
   00AFC5  SAA0AA06                 ZS-SBS  B744  South African Air... 2009/07/24 15:44:00 
   00AFC5  SAA0AA06                 ZS-SBS  B744  South African Air... 2009/07/24 15:44:01 
   00AFC5  SAA0AA06                 ZS-SBS  B744  South African Air... 2009/07/24 15:44:15 
   00AFC5  SAA0AA06                 ZS-SBS  B744  South African Air... 2009/07/24 15:44:50 
   00AFC5  SAA0AA06                 ZS-SBS  B744  South African Air... 2009/07/24 15:45:40 
   00AFC5  UA AA06                  ZS-SBS  B744  South African Air... 2009/07/24 15:43:30
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: jgrloit on July 24, 2009, 06:16:48 PM
On Port 30003 - if you need ALL MSG types to be delayed, could you generate an additional messgae type - SQK for instance, on the port with Zero delay?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: AirNav Development on July 24, 2009, 06:23:56 PM
Guys: just to keep you all updated, we plan to listen to all your opinions until next Monday,  Jul 27. Please try to keep a discussion on this topic only. Report any problems and minor suggestions only. After this we will resume work to release V3.02. Only when we get green light from you all we will release the final non-beta version.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: John Racars on July 24, 2009, 07:06:14 PM
Guys: just to keep you all updated, we plan to listen to all you opinions until next Monday,  Jul 27.

Hi Support,

Verry good suggestion! This will give me (and hopefully much other users) all the rest to see what we can suggest to you in the next coming days!
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: John Racars on July 24, 2009, 07:11:51 PM
Also I see I am getting duplicate entries in the Reporter:

Hi Marc,

I have seen the same in my reports and I reported this from the beginning to  Support. I think they are working on it and hopefully this problem will be solved in a next version.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Fenris on July 24, 2009, 07:42:02 PM
Fenris: MSG messages are delayed, SEL and AIR are real-time. Isn't this the way it works in SBS-1 output port? Remember this is still a beta and we are open for changes/corrections so no panic! :-)

Oh I wasn't panicking, merely trying to understand the way it works.

My suggestion would be, rather than simply filtering delayed port 30003 output on whether it is a MSG packet, how about doing so only for MSG packets that contain positional information. I haven't heard anyone complain that Basestation doesn't output Squawk info in real time. I think you should aim for matching the message types and formats used by SBS-1 outputs, the delay status does not need to be equivalent.

I would like to say that I'm pleased that we have a new beta to play with, kudos to all the people that made this happen, wherever and whoever you are!

I will try to make some suggestions when I have had time to investigate further, assuming that I find anything that is....
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: AirNav Development on July 24, 2009, 07:58:28 PM
Fenris: copied. We will analyze if we can do it. Keep the discussion going as it is very important to know all the users opinion on this version. Earlier next week we will compile all the feedback and do the relevant programming/changes.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Jeremy on July 24, 2009, 08:20:57 PM
I am finding the box freezes after being left running for a hour or so. Even with other programs closed down it tries to move the plots but then freezes again. I have to close down and reboot to get operating again. Could this be something to do with the timing on my screen saver?? or something else?
Jeremy.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Fenris on July 24, 2009, 09:15:41 PM
I am finding the box freezes after being left running for a hour or so. Even with other programs closed down it tries to move the plots but then freezes again. I have to close down and reboot to get operating again. Could this be something to do with the timing on my screen saver?? or something else?
Jeremy.

The only thing that comes to mind is if you have the USB hub in your machine set to power down. If this didn't happen with v2.01 then it probably isn't that, if so I don't have any idea as so far we haven't seen a lot of reports of this for 3.01 beta.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: slipdog on July 24, 2009, 10:08:10 PM
Hi,
I still cant seem to get any alerts coming up for flight numbers i have set.

They have not worked for me since i loaded the beta's.

Also is it possible for the planes to stop sending out signals?
I was tracking a flight RYR1925 from Murcia Spain LELC to East mids EGNX and it was flying far east of France (not normal path) and then it has disappeared after 5 mins and its never appeared since and its landing in 5 mins and i cannot even pick it with my rig. So basically not seen by network or locally but i have all other planes flying into EGNX.
Is this a bug?

Also did i read somewhere a while ago that there was going to be a right mouse click to give you more options when hovering over a flight on the map?

Cheers

Rich.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: slipdog on July 24, 2009, 10:15:23 PM
Well would you believe it, its turned up RYR1925, but its on a really unusual flight path to normal, maybe it was just not being picked up by any network.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Jeremy on July 24, 2009, 10:59:56 PM
Maybe you have what I suffer from which is interaction between the signal rxed direct and by those on the network.
Jeremy.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: dumpty on July 25, 2009, 05:12:18 AM
I have the same problem as Slipdog-No alerts off flight number.

Simon
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Allocator on July 25, 2009, 07:02:15 AM
After all that hard work getting the port 30003 output right, nobody seems to be using it!

Maybe because it's no longer real-time   :-)

It is for the Air and ID messages - just watch the raw data and see this.  JSTARS gives me real time info for logging purposes :-)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: lambertw on July 25, 2009, 08:44:44 AM
Keep getting network intermittent reading from normal to one or two aircraft showing,running latest 3.01,might be network problem,just noticed it today,will keep monitoring.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: DaveReid on July 25, 2009, 09:34:43 AM
Some issues with the port 30003 output wrt SBS compatibility:

MSG Type 6 message should contain altitude, but doesn't

SEL message shouldn't have an extra comma at the end (after the Flight ID)

SEL message should be timestamped with local time, like all the other messages, but it shows UTC.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: ScandiNor on July 25, 2009, 10:17:53 AM
I experience that some routes are not shown on the map as well as on the Interface panel, although they are in the database.  Shown in the attaches images.  Using v 3.01 clean install.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Dean on July 25, 2009, 10:43:15 AM
I refer to the problems with SquawkBox not displaying anything on v3.01.

I still have ver 2.01 working on an XP laptop and it works fine there. I've saved the MessageLog files from both V2.01 & 3.01 and attached them. Whilst not understanding fully what the text means there is a clear difference in what's being outputted on 30003.

Hope that helps.

Dean
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: GreekSpy2001 on July 25, 2009, 11:21:49 AM
Hi  

Still have an alert problem with 3.0.1.  After a extended period of running.  24+ hours I notice some Registration Alerts aren't occurring.  Example EI-EFK has just flown over me it is in the alert list but no alert given.  Just restarting arnb to see it that activates things again.

fyi my registration alert list has approx 1000 entires.  This was OK in v2.0


Graham

PS to confirm once ARNB had started up again, the Reg Alert started popping up with EI-EFK and others .

Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Andy Frost on July 25, 2009, 11:25:18 AM
A change was needed to SquawkBox to get it to work with the new messages now output on Port 30003 by version 3.01 Beta. It previously only reacted to MSG,3 messages output on this port if run with RadarBox as this was all RadarBox output in previous versions. For those that don't mind waiting 5 minutes to see their squawk codes translated I have now made those changes in a special version which can be found at http://www.gfrost.co.uk/SquawkBox/SquawkBoxfor301Beta.zip (http://www.gfrost.co.uk/SquawkBox/SquawkBoxfor301Beta.zip).

In this version I have changed the program so that it processes messages in exactly the same way as the SBS BaseStation, which SquawkBox also works with. It is nice to see that non-positional flights are now also output on the port though the value of this can perhaps be questioned if delayed by 5 minutes.

For those that interested in studying the messages output by this version I have also captured 20 minutes of data and saved it at http://www.gfrost.co.uk/SquawkBox/MessageLog_from_301_Beta.txt (http://www.gfrost.co.uk/SquawkBox/MessageLog_from_301_Beta.txt).
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Fenris on July 25, 2009, 11:37:33 AM
I decided to try an upgrade to v3.01 beta this morning, I use Vista so my installation is in C\:Airnav.

The update offered the start menu folder name (default), I wasn't sure if this was a coded way of saying the default folder name so I left it alone to see what happened.

The result isn't pretty. What I have ended up with is the old start menu entry, a new one called (default) that contains the translated manuals and help entries , and the actual program files are in two places.

The old v2.01 folder tree is still in C:\Airnav, the new v3.01 beta is in C:\Program Files\Airnav and there is no shortcut to allow the v3.01 version to be run.

This wasn't at all what I was expecting to see. I'm going to rip everything out and start from scratch, I had save copies of my databases so I'll copy them back over the new ones that v3.01 installs I suppose.

I think the upgrade installer needs some work! ;-)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: marcdeklerk on July 25, 2009, 11:48:52 AM
I just noticed when I Generate flight list for today, the list is blank! yesterday works fine. - RB was running since thursday

When I restarted RB, it was fine, but now only the current tracked aircraft is shown? .. so RB forgot what was picked up this morning? - looks like RB got confused? now working ok?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: GreekSpy2001 on July 25, 2009, 03:52:59 PM
The AVG warning that pops up at startup keeps popping up even though I have answered No to the question, do you want to continue receiving this warning.

Also I have noticed my alert workaround doesn't work.  A reg alert was missed after about an hour of operation.

Graham
Title: Downgrade from 3.0.1 to 2.0
Post by: GreekSpy2001 on July 25, 2009, 08:05:33 PM
Hi All

As my alert problem is winding me up, I think it will be best for me to go back to v2.0, to at least satisfy my mind that it worked as I wanted.  Will wait and try again with a later release. 

What is the best way to go about this?  I over wrote my original install.  Have the arnb20setup.exe .  Assume this will over write existing install.  What files can I backup to restore later?

Thanks

Graham
Title: Re: Downgrade from 3.0.1 to 2.0
Post by: AirNav Development on July 25, 2009, 08:12:03 PM
Only 1 alert will be sent per aircraft (mode-s code). So if you setup 2 alerts which are triggered for the same aircraft (for example AFR001 and B744 valid for the same mode-s) one one alert popup. Is this related to the problem you reported?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Harry on July 26, 2009, 05:27:54 AM
FTP is still generating _200907260505.tmp files without renaming to an another name. There are a lot of .tmp files  in the folder right  now. Any suggestions?

The username which I use for FTP  have full access to the webserver.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: tarbat on July 26, 2009, 07:17:49 AM
FTP is still generating _200907260505.tmp files without renaming to an another name. There are a lot of .tmp files  in the folder right  now. Any suggestions?

Who is your FTP provider - do they have any FTP upload limits?  Others have solved this problem by switching to another FTP provider - try gofreeserve.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Harry on July 26, 2009, 08:36:04 AM
I own that server. There are more people uploading stuff to my website daily and there is  no limit on the ftp.

I will try it to one of my ohter websites.

FTP is still generating _200907260505.tmp files without renaming to an another name. There are a lot of .tmp files  in the folder right  now. Any suggestions?

Who is your FTP provider - do they have any FTP upload limits?  Others have solved this problem by switching to another FTP provider - try gofreeserve.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: tarbat on July 26, 2009, 08:38:28 AM
What's the ftp server software?  Does it support renaming of files via. ftp?

See http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=3000.msg27562#msg27562
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Harry on July 26, 2009, 08:39:52 AM
While checking my FTP settings I noticed that after a few click on the File menu option I'm not able to open the File menu option anymore. (all others are a no go too). I have to kill the radarbox application via the  task manager.

when I click on one of the menu options it seems they are selected, but they won't open.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Rural Outpost on July 26, 2009, 10:15:38 AM
I have jst down loaded 3.01beta version and all looks good so thanks airnav. However I can't find how to mark home with a cross. Can some one tell me what I haven't done.

Thanks
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Allocator on July 26, 2009, 10:25:44 AM
I have jst down loaded 3.01beta version and all looks good so thanks airnav. However I can't find how to mark home with a cross. Can some one tell me what I haven't done.

Thanks

Use:

File > Preferences > Home Station Data

Put your home position in the Latitude and Longitude boxes (in decimal degrees)

In Preferences > RadarBox, make sure that you have 'Draw Home Location Legend' ticked.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Rural Outpost on July 26, 2009, 10:33:36 AM
I hadn't ticked Draw Home Location Legend box. Thanks allocator
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Harry on July 26, 2009, 11:00:44 AM
What's the ftp server software?  Does it support renaming of files via. ftp?

See http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=3000.msg27562#msg27562

Used two different sites, but still no luck. I'm only getting .tmp files.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Allocator on July 26, 2009, 11:33:22 AM
What's the ftp server software?  Does it support renaming of files via. ftp?

See http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=3000.msg27562#msg27562

Used two different sites, but still no luck. I'm only getting .tmp files.

As tarbat says, this is almost certainly a limitation of the host rather than of the FTP upload.  I presume that it's some kind of safety mechanism to stop files being overwritten.

You could try to manually FTP files of the same name to the directory where you want to save the RB screenshots and see what happens?  Do you get tmp files created in this instance, or does the new file just overwrite the old one without any problem?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: tarbat on July 26, 2009, 02:08:32 PM
Used two different sites, but still no luck. I'm only getting .tmp files.

Have you tried www.gofreeserve.com .  If it works okay with gofreeserve, then you'll know for sure that it's a problem with your ftp host, and not a problem with Radarbox.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: abrad41 on July 26, 2009, 03:07:52 PM
Harry
I had all the problems below -

Quote
FTP is still generating _200907260505.tmp files without renaming to an another name. There are a lot of .tmp files  in the folder right  now. Any suggestions?

The username which I use for FTP  have full access to the webserver.
Quote
Quote from: Harry on Today at 11:00:44
Quote from: tarbat on Today at 08:38:28
What's the ftp server software?  Does it support renaming of files via. ftp?

See http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=3000.msg27562#msg27562


Used two different sites, but still no luck. I'm only getting .tmp files.


As tarbat says, this is almost certainly a limitation of the host rather than of the FTP upload.  I presume that it's some kind of safety mechanism to stop files being overwritten.

You could try to manually FTP files of the same name to the directory where you want to save the RB screenshots and see what happens?  Do you get tmp files created in this instance, or does the new file just overwrite the old one without any problem?

But tarbat pointed me towards gofreeserve and now everything is working great. You should try it just for your own satisfaction.

www.absbta2009.co.uk have a look you will see it

Cheers

Andy
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Jeremy on July 26, 2009, 03:22:27 PM
Andy,
How did you get your aircraft to fly backwards like that??
J.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Allocator on July 26, 2009, 03:24:04 PM
Andy,
How did you get your aircraft to fly backwards like that??
J.

They're not flying backwards, Andy has got path vectors on and trail lines set to zero :-)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Jeremy on July 26, 2009, 03:25:22 PM
Sorry Allocator - my sense of humour!
J.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Allocator on July 26, 2009, 03:29:39 PM
I did wonder .......... got me! - lol
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: abrad41 on July 26, 2009, 04:05:31 PM
Jeremy

What a sense of humour -

If you look in the next 5 mins or so they will be moving forward I hope.

www.absbta2009.co.uk

Andy
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Jeremy on July 26, 2009, 04:16:42 PM
good grief. Where are you located to have coverage like that without the server?
J.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: abrad41 on July 26, 2009, 04:19:20 PM
Jeremy

If you look - top, to left of the screen you will see my home, 15 Mls west of Norwich.
Showing 137 in list.

Edit: Jeremy - Look in about 5 mins and you will see what coverage I get with my external antenna

Andy
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Jeremy on July 26, 2009, 04:38:05 PM
Very good. Mine attached.
J.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Jeremy on July 26, 2009, 04:43:25 PM
A suggestion for the next version could be a X/Y polor diagram as there is obviously an increase in distance v height of aircraft.
J.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Allocator on July 26, 2009, 05:05:15 PM
A suggestion for the next version could be a X/Y polor diagram as there is obviously an increase in distance v height of aircraft.
J.

SBS Plotter will work with RadarBox - at least it did last time I checked.  You can view the coverage at different altitudes.

http://www.homepages.mcb.net/bones/Kinetic/Utilities/Kinetic_Utilities5_Utils.htm
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: AirNav Support on July 26, 2009, 09:20:15 PM
Just as FYI, these are the issue below which we have been told about and we will rectfiy them asp.

1.) Network Timeout
2.) Alerts
3.) Port 30003 data not exactly right
4.) RB Freezes when going into screensave or suspend mode in a few cases.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Jeremy on July 26, 2009, 11:17:19 PM
Re. 4: The whole screen has fozen several times today. Had to close down and re-boot. No other applications running. v.3.01b.
J.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: marcdeklerk on July 27, 2009, 05:19:15 AM
I noticed now twice that after extended operation the mylog current tracked aircraft list goes blank, the RB box lights flashes normally?
Maby some sort of timeout at mentioned above
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: marcdeklerk on July 27, 2009, 05:21:00 AM
The reporter for the day was blank again today after the above?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: peteeds on July 27, 2009, 07:15:44 AM
Hi Allocator, I have allways run SBS Plotter here on RB just as a quick refference for daily activity. If i have my map centered on home position it would instantly show any activity off screen which i found usefull. It would also show the furthest contact of the day. But since I have installed the new download I now find it records with a few minutes delay which rather defeats the main reason I use it. Any ideas.

Cheers Peteeds  2W1 FJZ
Title: Re: Downgrade from 3.0.1 to 2.0
Post by: GreekSpy2001 on July 27, 2009, 07:44:27 AM
No nothing like it.

I use Reg alerts a lot, when the sw starts then things work as intended but reduce significantly after time.  I use these alerts to actually tell me when a particular aircraft is flying in my area so I can view it.

So over time, 2-3 hours, any particular aircraft in the alert list will not appear as an alert at all when the system picks up the aircraft.  If I look back in the alert log I will see very few reg alerts mainly hexcode alerts.  The hexcodes are wildcards for Military traffic.  The reg alert list is civil airliners I want to see.   

If I stop and start the software then the reg alerts start to appear again as they should. I have tested this when a particular aircraft on the list was tracked but didn't alert.  I restarted that app and it alerted straight away. With V2.0 I never noticed this reduction in reg alerts.   I have over 1000 reg's in  my alert list both in v2 and v3.  Probably why this hasn't been noticed in testing.

Hope this helps.  Let me know if you need other info as this is my No.1 important feature.

Thanks

Graham
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: pjm on July 27, 2009, 07:58:00 AM
Just as FYI, these are the issue below which we have been told about and we will rectfiy them asp.

1.) Network Timeout
2.) Alerts
3.) Port 30003 data not exactly right
4.) RB Freezes when going into screensave or suspend mode in a few cases.

5) Won't startup at "home" location (yes I've saved the map)
6) Preferences/radarbox/Share Flight Data = OFF will not save - always starts up on/enabled
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: AirNav Support on July 27, 2009, 08:01:19 AM
pjm,

5) Once you close down RadarBox after the first time it should save your location.

6.) This won't be looked at, this is done for a reason. Please search the forum for the discussions on this if you want to know more.
Title: Re: Downgrade from 3.0.1 to 2.0
Post by: dumpty on July 27, 2009, 08:33:50 AM
Hi

I am getting registration alerts ok but no flight number alerts at all.

Strange.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: pjm on July 27, 2009, 08:45:14 AM
5) this possibly has to do with how I run radarbox across 2 screens (dual monitor with desktop extended) but no matter what I do it wont startup at the home location.

(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8577/anr.jpg)

6) I've read the forum posts and the reasoning seems to be that you want to have a "network" of data. I appreciate the concept, but you want the users to pay for the data that you are collecting for free.

I'd be happy to share my data full time if you

a) Properly showed my location in the "Real time network location" map - I find 9 times out of 10 I'm only displayed by the city associated with my IP address which gives reading about 30 klms away from where I am receiving the information.
b) Pay me  to supply the info you want to on sell, this could be done on the basis of either cash, or additional time credited to the expiry date of the 1 year "included" network time.

I found that leaving Radarbox connected for 24 hours downloading and uploading network data consumed about 650mb, and that costs me dearly from my ISP.

Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: snowman on July 27, 2009, 08:55:09 AM
Just as FYI, these are the issue below which we have been told about and we will rectfiy them asp.

1.) Network Timeout
2.) Alerts
3.) Port 30003 data not exactly right
4.) RB Freezes when going into screensave or suspend mode in a few cases.

Can you also add the fact that when loading, the AVG prompt always comes up regardless whether you say you dont want the prompt next time ot not
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: pjm on July 27, 2009, 08:59:57 AM
I found editing the registry thus fixes the bug with the AVG warning always being displayed

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\AirNav Systems\ANRB\1\General]
"AVGAntiVirus"="1"
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: AirNav Support on July 27, 2009, 09:24:47 AM
pjm,

What you have mentioned regarding the network in terms of uploading etc.. has also been discussed many times on the forum as well. Without repeating ourselves again there are additional costs to use for data and server which are considerable once added up. Also regarding the map there are still customers who do not want to give there location away.

If you enter in specfic details of your location and googles look up service is in a good mood it should be within a few miles of your location.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: GreekSpy2001 on July 27, 2009, 09:36:03 AM
I found editing the registry thus fixes the bug with the AVG warning always being displayed

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\AirNav Systems\ANRB\1\General]
"AVGAntiVirus"="1"


Cheers will edit the registry

Graham
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Allocator on July 27, 2009, 09:40:21 AM
Just as FYI, these are the issue below which we have been told about and we will rectfiy them asp.

1.) Network Timeout
2.) Alerts
3.) Port 30003 data not exactly right
4.) RB Freezes when going into screensave or suspend mode in a few cases.

Can you also add the fact that when loading, the AVG prompt always comes up regardless whether you say you dont want the prompt next time ot not

I didn't get an AVG prompt in Windows XP.  I got the usual Windows prompt the first time I ran the new anrb.exe and also a ZoneAlarm prompt.  I unticked the Windows box and told ZoneAlarm to grant permanent access to the anrb.exe and no more prompts :-)

I'm running the Free version of AVG.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Andy Frost on July 27, 2009, 10:04:49 AM
Regarding Port 30003 output, the 3.01 Beta version is currently outputing multiple "MSG,1" messsages for the same flight. "MSG,1" contains the flight number and it seems an unnecessary waste of output/time to keep re-outputing this information when it hasn't changed, even though it isn't syntactically incorrect to do so. Also, the goal as I understood it was to be more consistent with the output produced by SBS, which I am fairly sure only outputs one "MSG,1" for each flight.

SquawkBox uses the "MSG,1" to start logging the flight in its database and multiple "MSG,1" messages have meant that some flights could be missed or not shown for the correct length of time because they got re-initialised. I have however produced an update to the Beta 3.01 version of SquawkBox I produced two days ago to cope with this at http://www.gfrost.co.uk/SquawkBox/SquawkBoxfor301Beta.zip (http://www.gfrost.co.uk/SquawkBox/SquawkBoxfor301Beta.zip). All flights that transmit a squawk code should now be included, albeit with a 5 minute delay.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: DaveReid on July 27, 2009, 10:16:05 AM
Also, the goal as I understood it was to be more consistent with the output produced by SBS, which I am fairly sure only outputs one "MSG,1" for each flight.

No, SBS/BaseStation outputs a Type 1 MSG every time it receives an aircraft ID/category squitter, which can be as often as once every 5 seconds.

RadarBox behaviour seems to be consistent with that.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Andy Frost on July 27, 2009, 10:55:43 AM
okey dokey, fair enough Dave. I was working from a log of SBS messages sent to me on which I could only ever see one MSG,1 for each flight. It does still seem unnecessary to me to be re-outputing information that hasn't changed though.
Title: Re: Downgrade from 3.0.1 to 2.0
Post by: AirNav Development on July 27, 2009, 11:08:16 AM
We have merged this topic into the main V3.01 topic to keep the discussion organized.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: viking9 on July 27, 2009, 01:10:47 PM
I'd like to say "Well Done" to all involved at AirNav in producing this latest beta. I'm very happy with it on both my PC and my laptop except for one small item which has not been adressed.

On my laptop's 1024 x 768 screen I still cannot see the 'Advanced' tab, even with the map minimized.

Tom
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: RodBearden on July 27, 2009, 01:32:29 PM
Tom - you can still get to the advanced filters from the menu: Filters...Advanced Filters, or, for us keyboard fans, Alt-I, D

Rod
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: freqhopping on July 27, 2009, 07:50:29 PM
I seem to have found some issues early this morning that have not been mentioned.  At 5am local there are only a few planes flying around my area.  In the screenshot you can see some unknown aircraft, flight 431, with ADS-B is associated with A699A1 (Should be N512HW which is not assigned per FAA database).  The Airline and Type data is from what I have entered for AE2E1F.
A699A1 is not even in my database, yet it is displaying details that don't exist for it.

There is no telling how much else is screwed up until I see some of the usuals with unusual information.


At the time I also wasn't seeing the usual Fed Ex and UPS flights.  Well after checking MyLog for the entire day there is only a single UPS flight and no Fed Ex. On a typical day I normally log about 30 of each.

Chalk me up too for a lack of alerts best as I can tell.


OS= Windows Vista 64
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: AirNav Development on July 27, 2009, 08:21:38 PM
Regarding some users reporting that they don't receive some alerts: we believe it is caused by the fact that only 1 alert will be sent per mode-s hex code.

For example if a user has alerts setup on flight number (SIA123) and aircraft type (B744) and he receives a Singapore B744 doing flight SIA123 he will only receive one alert.

What is your opinion as experienced users: should we change this behavior so that, in this case, 2 alerts are sent?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: freqhopping on July 27, 2009, 08:29:08 PM
I don't think it's a a matter of hex code. One of the four aircraft currently in my SmartView did not send an alert.  It should have triggered at least one from either Mode-S (AE0*), Registration (164*) or FlightID (GOTO FMS). 

I'm still getting multiple alerts for aircraft if there is more than one alert that applies.  Today I had about 50 less alerts than I normally do on a Monday.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: viking9 on July 27, 2009, 10:08:40 PM
Tom - you can still get to the advanced filters from the menu: Filters...Advanced Filters, or, for us keyboard fans, Alt-I, D

Rod

Rod,

Many thanks fo the tip but it does not give the same selections as the advanced tab such as "Show Radarbox Network Flights"

Tom
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: RodBearden on July 27, 2009, 10:22:27 PM
True enough, Tom

I use a 22" screen, but I would have thought that 1024px would be wide enough - are you using large fonts rather than standard fonts?

Rod
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: slipdog on July 27, 2009, 10:33:03 PM
Hi,
Quoted by Freqhopping, i had about 50 less alerts than normal!
Something wrong with my set up or something, i get none at all, i have 10 flights set which i know fly out every day out of EGNX, also have wilcard set for A380's but nothing, my rig has been running 24hrs since the new beta and not a single alert has come thru. Weird.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Fenris on July 27, 2009, 10:39:27 PM
Regarding some users reporting that they don't receive some alerts: we believe it is caused by the fact that only 1 alert will be sent per mode-s hex code.

For example if a user has alerts setup on flight number (SIA123) and aircraft type (B744) and he receives a Singapore B744 doing flight SIA123 he will only receive one alert.

What is your opinion as experienced users: should we change this behavior so that, in this case, 2 alerts are sent?

It seems to me that, if two separate alert entries apply to a single hex code, that the alert itself should indicate that fact, so it should either indicate:

"Alert for B744 and SIA123" or it should indicate "2 alert conditions met".

Would that be suitable? It would give the user feedback that their alert entries are working correctly.

Having seen some other posts, it does seem that there is a deeper problem than just this multiple alert entries -> single alert happening. I can appreciate that it isn't easy to diagnose.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: AirNav Development on July 27, 2009, 11:18:29 PM
So it has nothing to do with the 1 or 2 conditions met...in conclusion we need to know:
1- If every user reports this problem;
2- (difficult/challenging one): if anyone can find a way of reproducing it.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: freqhopping on July 28, 2009, 02:40:48 AM
Fed Ex and UPS flights are starting to show up tonight.  My milair log for the day seems to be lacking though compared to the logs of others in my area.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: viking9 on July 28, 2009, 10:26:48 AM
True enough, Tom

I use a 22" screen, but I would have thought that 1024px would be wide enough - are you using large fonts rather than standard fonts?

Rod

I use standard fonts, Rod. I'm a retired IT professional so there's little I don't know about Windoze etc. As 1024 x 768 is a standard I would have thought they would have fixed it. It was brought up by others on here. It's not as if there is not enough room at that screen size.

Tom

Tom
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Allocator on July 28, 2009, 11:22:43 AM
True enough, Tom

I use a 22" screen, but I would have thought that 1024px would be wide enough - are you using large fonts rather than standard fonts?

Rod

I use standard fonts, Rod. I'm a retired IT professional so there's little I don't know about Windoze etc. As 1024 x 768 is a standard I would have thought they would have fixed it. It was brought up by others on here. It's not as if there is not enough room at that screen size.

Tom

Tom

Works OK for me at 1240 x 768.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: perezoso on July 28, 2009, 12:56:08 PM
Horizontal monitor space is very much at a premium, even with higher resolutions.  Ways to display more data in less horizontal space would be great, such as:

1. Allow the "status" field to be displayed as an abbreviation, with two or three characters per status, such as "LVL" or "LV" for "leveled", "DEP" or "DP" for "departure", etc.

2. Using taller columns, so two rows of data ca be displayed per plane.  This would make the display longer; but I would much rather scroll vertically than horizontally.

One thing I would not do is make the graphics (flags, logos, etc) any smaller.

Just my belated opinion...
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Andy Frost on July 28, 2009, 12:59:58 PM
I am still missing a label on the Pole Hill VOR. Although previous discussions on this put this down to an intelligent removal of labels to avoid clutter on the map the Pole Hill VOR remains separate from anything on my map and there appears to be room to label it (see attached views, normal and zoomed).
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: AirNav Development on July 28, 2009, 06:26:19 PM
Regarding port 30003: we have had users very interested in this feature that posted dozens of messages to the forum requesting it to be working just as SBS-1. We need a final confirmation from these users, especially DaveReid (who posted very helpful messages) that everything is working as expected with it.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: viking9 on July 28, 2009, 06:41:19 PM
Works OK for me at 1240 x 768.

1240 x 768 is not a standard !!

Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Allocator on July 28, 2009, 06:53:12 PM
Works OK for me at 1240 x 768.

1240 x 768 is not a standard !!



Ha!!! a typing error - I meant 1024 x 768 as per the screen shot :-)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: viking9 on July 28, 2009, 08:18:51 PM
Allocator,

I can see you have a much newer laptop than I as you can go much higher than 1024 x 768. Mine is just two years old and I don't fancy shelling out on a new one just to get a better graphics card.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Allocator on July 28, 2009, 08:26:43 PM
No, not new - maybe 2 or 3 years old - a Gateway MX6640b Pentium 1.6GHz with 2 Gb RAM with an 80Gb HD from Staples.  Don't think that you can buy them any more - obsolete - lol

Yes, my laptop usually runs at 1280 x 800, but I did think that by running it at 1024 x 768 I could simulate your display, but obviously not.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: freqhopping on July 28, 2009, 09:03:42 PM
As usual I lost internet connectivity due to ANRB running.  The only way to restore connectivity is to close it.  Well today upon closing it there was an error of some sort and it was apparently a crash close because upon restarting it everything that had been logged for the day was gone.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: swadeep on July 29, 2009, 10:23:58 AM
Hi Airnav. thanks for the patch..any news on 64 bit driver?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: AirNav Support on July 29, 2009, 10:34:56 AM
We will chase Microsoft who are approving it and get back to you.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: davec on July 29, 2009, 04:01:50 PM
HI  ALL,
regarding my usage of the last two patches, i though i would clarify my problems,firstly none of the patches are downloadable with system and i had to do a full download loosing all previous data, when using 3.01 the network is so sporadic stopping and starts as noted before, i have also noticed that the network on that page the traffic is well down,however using 3.0 the system for very well.
this is not me moaning , but to let airnav development know of these problems and as this is BETA i will wait form the formal release of the new update and use 3.0 untill then keep up the good work everybody
regards dave-c
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: swadeep on July 29, 2009, 05:48:26 PM
We will chase Microsoft who are approving it and get back to you.

Ok. Look forward to hearing from you soon! thanks very much!! :)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Fenris on July 29, 2009, 06:21:30 PM
i had to do a full download loosing all previous data

If you back up the two database files then you can restore them into the new version's directory and keep all you existing changes and logged aircraft.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: davec on July 29, 2009, 06:28:40 PM
hi brian can you tell me how to do that as i have tried that  so i must be doing something wrong as you can tell i a rubbish at computers thanks davec
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Fenris on July 29, 2009, 08:01:20 PM
hi brian can you tell me how to do that as i have tried that  so i must be doing something wrong as you can tell i a rubbish at computers thanks davec

If you find where the RB software is installed, you will find two files in the sub-directory called data. They are called navdata.db3 and mylog.db3, all you need to do is, with the program shut down, copy these and then paste them to a folder of your choice.

Then, after reinstalling or updating, copy your stored copies back over the new installation's files of the same name, again with the program not running.

That's all you need to do.

You can also keep up to date copies so that you have up to date versions available in the event of a system problem or disk crash. Naturally this is better done occasionally and stored on a CD backup or a USB flash drive or similar.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: davec on July 30, 2009, 07:54:43 AM
hi Brian
thanks for that i will done that
rgards davec
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: tommyg on July 30, 2009, 09:08:45 AM
This is a first currently have KAC118 on the map and the aircraft is flying sideways!!! All other acft on the map are correct. Am using 3.01 Beta. Has anyone else seen this? I have also noticed the past two days that some AF flights (mainly oceanic flights) remain static on the map for about 30 secs then suddenly move to the correct postion. Never had anything like this happen with prev version.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: RodBearden on July 30, 2009, 09:55:35 AM
Hi Tommyg - you get aircraft apparently flying sideways when their onboard equipment sends wrong heading data but correct positional data. Yesterday I had an airliner on MyFlights apparently pointing due north but heading west! Not RadarBox's fault!

As to the jerky positions on the map, that's probably due to RadarBox 3 Beta's sensitivity to late arrival of network data. We hope that will be solved when the final release cones along.

Rod
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: tommyg on July 30, 2009, 11:21:57 AM
Hi Rod.  I did notice on my flights it was showing a heading of 360deg when it was actually heading 090deg towards DVR VOR when I confirmed it visually. I am using a very old (7yrs) laptop so expect that may be some reason why I have the occasional jerky movement on the map as 3.01 is more sensitive.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: DaveReid on July 30, 2009, 11:29:36 AM
Hi Tommyg - you get aircraft apparently flying sideways when their onboard equipment sends wrong heading data but correct positional data. Yesterday I had an airliner on MyFlights apparently pointing due north but heading west! Not RadarBox's fault!

To amplify this, it's perhaps not widely known but aircraft don't explicitly send track (except when on the ground) as part of the ADS-B squitter.

Instead, they send two velocity components - one in an E/W direction and one N/S, both to the nearest knot.  When combined, these produce a velocity vector consisting of groundspeed and magnetic track (imagine a right-angled triangle).
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: RodBearden on July 30, 2009, 11:44:54 AM
Thanks, Dave.

Rod
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: atcukmatty on July 30, 2009, 12:24:28 PM
to get aircraft equiped with mode-s only displayed on the map will this have to be a hardware or a software change different transponder in the aircraft?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: tommyg on July 30, 2009, 12:59:45 PM
Must be something to do with Kuwaiti B777's. KAC101 on its way into LHR is on the map now flying sideways!!!!  On my flights heading 360 but actually heading approx 270.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: DaveReid on July 30, 2009, 03:20:15 PM
to get aircraft equiped with mode-s only displayed on the map will this have to be a hardware or a software change different transponder in the aircraft?

It's rare to see aircraft being retrofitted with ADS-B, I can only think of a handful that I've logged since I started monitoring 4 years ago.

Aircraft tend to either have ADS-B from new, or have only Mode S and stay that way, and most of the latter will be retired before widespread use of ADS-B becomes mandatory (if indeed that day ever comes).
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: prbflight on July 30, 2009, 03:37:20 PM
to get aircraft equiped with mode-s only displayed on the map will this have to be a hardware or a software change different transponder in the aircraft?

It's rare to see aircraft being retrofitted with ADS-B, I can only think of a handful that I've logged since I started monitoring 4 years ago.

Aircraft tend to either have ADS-B from new, or have only Mode S and stay that way, and most of the latter will be retired before widespread use of ADS-B becomes mandatory (if indeed that day ever comes).

WestJet in Canada is a good example of an existing fleet being retro fitted with ADS-B.  A year ago there was none and now I have logged 20 of their existing fleet retro-fitted.

[email protected]
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Tallyho on July 30, 2009, 03:48:31 PM
to get aircraft equiped with mode-s only displayed on the map will this have to be a hardware or a software change different transponder in the aircraft?

It will usually be a hardware change in the aircraft but there are some Mode-S transponders that can be upgraded to run ADS-B from standard Mode-S mode, they need to be linked to a positional information source such as inertial navigation system or GPS.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Roadrunner on July 30, 2009, 04:56:49 PM
to get aircraft equiped with mode-s only displayed on the map will this have to be a hardware or a software change different transponder in the aircraft?

It's rare to see aircraft being retrofitted with ADS-B, I can only think of a handful that I've logged since I started monitoring 4 years ago.

Aircraft tend to either have ADS-B from new, or have only Mode S and stay that way, and most of the latter will be retired before widespread use of ADS-B becomes mandatory (if indeed that day ever comes).

This is not strictly correct. Fed Ex has spent a lot fitting ADS-B to all its MD11 and KLM likewise with its MD11's

Mike
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: southcoast on July 30, 2009, 05:17:50 PM
Hi, Re Alert probs with Beta 3, done a full install of beta 3.1, the probs with the alerts is now 10 times worse!!!reg's thast i deleted ages ago and reg's I havent even put into the "ALERTS" are poping up every few seconds and am getting a bit p****d off with it. I dont want to be looking at the screen for 8 hours waiting for a reg to come up so WHERE are the old reg's stored, in the registary, so why arnt they deleted when deleted out of the alerts box and after reboot. Surley there must be some way deleting them and of stopping this happening. A solution to this prob would be good.
Roger.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: DaveReid on July 30, 2009, 05:34:30 PM
Fed Ex has spent a lot fitting ADS-B to all its MD11 and KLM likewise with its MD11's

Yes, and in both cases that made sense given that they would otherwise be banned from using the Hudson Bay mandatory ADS-B airspace.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Allocator on July 30, 2009, 06:25:48 PM
Hi, Re Alert probs with Beta 3, done a full install of beta 3.1, the probs with the alerts is now 10 times worse!!!reg's thast i deleted ages ago and reg's I havent even put into the "ALERTS" are poping up every few seconds and am getting a bit p****d off with it. I dont want to be looking at the screen for 8 hours waiting for a reg to come up so WHERE are the old reg's stored, in the registary, so why arnt they deleted when deleted out of the alerts box and after reboot. Surley there must be some way deleting them and of stopping this happening. A solution to this prob would be good.
Roger.

I use the alert function extensively, yet I'm convinced that that all the alerts I put in work as advertised.  I don't understand how it is possible for it to be OK for me, but not work at all for others.

The only theory I have is that if there a big number of items in the alert boxes - and some people have literally been entering hundreds of items - then it's just taking so long to process that some alerts are being missed?

I did post the registry locations for the alert settings a couple of weeks ago, so I'm sure a forum search for 'registry' will show this.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Allocator on July 30, 2009, 06:36:02 PM
Also, on the subject of alerts, I'm running JSARS with a custom data file that reflects the hex codes that I've got set in Alerts, and the JSTARS log file matches the alerts I'm getting from RB.  An interesting comparison.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: f6gsg on July 30, 2009, 08:37:56 PM
i Allocator,

About Alert, i use only 3 Flight ID:
FP* (French Postal)
AF68*
UPS*

and one for the Aircraft:
A38*

No alert for Flight ID and no alert for the A38* but
well in my log ????

No big number of items !!!!
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Allocator on July 30, 2009, 08:58:02 PM
Here are my alerts for this evening so far.  The A380 was a network alert so wasn't trapped by JSTARS.  ZD621 is there in the RB Alert list but I've scrolled down to show the others.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: 54901 - Jim on July 30, 2009, 09:06:00 PM
I was away from my computer most of the day today.  When I returned, the MyFlights page had one flight listed more than 20 times and was locked up with no other flights listed.  I had to restart the application.

Jim
Oshkosh

3.01
Vista
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Geot on July 31, 2009, 08:23:44 PM
I also experienced a simialr problem yesterday - had to shut-down restart,

GeoT
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Geot on July 31, 2009, 08:30:24 PM
I think there have been messages re problems with Alerts - just experienced a problem with A380 A6-EDE; passed overhead on probably its first visit to CYYZ, it is in my Alerts, but no message sound or notification message generated. This is my first occurence that I am aware of.

GeoT
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Manuel Mendes on August 01, 2009, 05:18:52 PM
Hi.
Today I had two M- registered aircrafts and the Man flag was not displayed.
Instead it was displayed a flag similar to a military one. Version 3.01 full install.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: RodBearden on August 01, 2009, 05:51:42 PM
Manuel - you need Tarbat's D008 file - download and install the zip from here: http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=667.msg12094#msg12094 (http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=667.msg12094#msg12094)

Rod
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: bee46 on August 01, 2009, 05:54:48 PM
this baby works fine again:), good job airnav
Title: Problem with 3.01 and the network
Post by: dor4x on August 01, 2009, 07:59:38 PM
Hi

I am using an external antenna with a 6 meters RG214 cable. My rage to the "open sky" is very nice. I am getting data from 200nm in average and picks up to 300nm.
On the mid range I gets very nice trail lines without any breaks.

This all has been changed since upgraded to 3.01.
With the network connected I can see the MSG/SEC is dropping to 0 every 10 sec+- and my nice trail lines are not as they used to be.

Also un checking the "GetFlights from the Network" doesn't work so good at my side. I am not getting any aircrafts in the list after disconnecting from the network, but I can still see them on the map..

I need to do a full RadarBox software restart in order to get fully disconnected from the network and then get my nice trail lines back.
Title: Re: Problem with 3.01 and the network
Post by: AirNav Development on August 01, 2009, 10:53:43 PM
Any other user experiencing the same problem?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: pcochrane12 on August 02, 2009, 07:12:41 AM
im getting the message drop out and also the flights dont clear when you un-check network dont need to re-start as they eventually time out but have tried it and it does clear them
cheers paul
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: pcochrane12 on August 02, 2009, 07:13:56 AM
forgot to say message count drops down when im connected to the network
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Marpleman on August 02, 2009, 08:26:49 AM
I was experiencing the opposite yesterday all day - when de-selecting the network option, the top two entries in the network tab on the screen wouldn't clear even though the flight count marker was showing zero.The flights had correctly disappeared from the map though!

The only way of clearing was to restart each time - seems ok today

On a general note my Vista SP upgrade seems fine

Also my earlier reference to connecting to Aerodata analyser to version 3.01 beta has now been sorted by reperforming the standard junction link as supplied
by Aerodata

Regards

Rich
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: airdata on August 03, 2009, 08:26:18 AM
I seem to now have a problem with aircraft not plotting on the map even though the 'globe' is present next to the status on the aircraft list.  Never was a problem on the previous (non-beta) version.

A restart of Radarbox temporarily solves the problem only for it to happen again after an hour or so.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Allocator on August 03, 2009, 08:29:28 AM
I seem to now have a problem with aircraft not plotting on the map even though the 'globe' is present next to the status on the aircraft list.  Never was a problem on the previous (non-beta) version.

A restart of Radarbox temporarily solves the problem only for it to happen again after an hour or so.

That was a problem with V3.0 Beta - are you sure that you are running V3.01 Beta?

The fix for the non plotting was to left click on the map and drag it by a very small amount.  I haven't seen this problem with V3.01 Beta.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: davec on August 03, 2009, 11:38:49 AM
hi all,
i have managed to install the 3,1 beta and transfered all my inputted data, however i have notice that the network flight tally is jumping from 300-680-100, also the flights drop on the screen its very intermitant, sorry if this has been reported before, am using windows xp and new pc, anybody have anyideas that it would fix?
thanks in advance dave-c
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Allocator on August 03, 2009, 11:54:44 AM
Hi Dave,

Yes, this has been reported as is a combination of a change in the Server logic and V3.01 Beta.  AirNav are aware and are looking to fix this for the next Beta software release V3.02.  No time estimate, but it is work in progress.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: davec on August 03, 2009, 12:08:36 PM
HI ALLOCATOR,
thaks for that swift reply, i wonder if you could help me with my next challenge, i downloaded logos from a different site as i prefer the tail logos , it worked but anav is clipping half the tail, is there anything i can do, as always i am pretty rubbish at pc etc, thanks again , well done to airnav et all for a great product and support
davec
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Allocator on August 03, 2009, 12:19:56 PM
Dave,

I've got to go out now - taking the out-laws home :-)

I'll leave you in the good hands of the other forum members and I'll get back to you later if your question hasn't been answered.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: tarbat on August 03, 2009, 12:32:21 PM
davec, where did you download them from?  Sound like you might have downloaded logos designed for SBS-1 Basestation, not the Radarbox.  In which case you'll need to re-size them to 16 pixels high.

EZY example attached.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: davec on August 03, 2009, 12:50:03 PM
Hi Tarbat, i downloaded from jacks logos as i like the tails, how do i resize them, as i say i am pretty rubish at pc s, thanks
davec
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: tarbat on August 03, 2009, 12:54:46 PM
I just ran the whole set through FastStone - http://www.faststone.org/FSResizerDetail.htm

Takes a couple of minutes to do all 3500+ logos, using the attached options.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2446/3784331903_d150106d93_m.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarbat/3784331903/sizes/o/)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: davec on August 03, 2009, 02:03:54 PM
hi tarbat, i have the program but i cant get it to work, i put in 68+16, press reset then finish but nothing happens
any ideas
dave
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: tarbat on August 03, 2009, 02:25:33 PM
Make sure you've selected the logos you want to resize (eg Add All)
Setup an output folder
Use Advanced Options
Tick Resize
Resize based on one side
Predefined Side = Height  exactly = 16 pixels
Method = default
OK

Alternatively, ask Jack for permission for the resized logos to be published.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: davec on August 03, 2009, 04:41:24 PM
HI TARBART,
tried all of that ,seems that the radarbox willnoy present anything other that 85~20, i have treid all afternoon so i will have a rest thanks for your help
davec
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: davec on August 04, 2009, 02:19:54 PM
HI airnav support,
have noticed another problem with the betas, some days i am not getting route info on particular flights,today for some reason its delta i check the data base and the route info is there, it is very intermitant,i know this was a recent fix , maybe its sneaking back, if its been mentioned before appologies, route info is one of my favourite releases,keep up the good work
davec
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: slipdog on August 04, 2009, 05:08:32 PM
Hi,
I know there are a lot of problems with the alerts side of things, but i cant remember anyone having this problem.

It is not the first time this has happened to me but i usually have about 6 alerts set for flight ID and 1 set for aircraft type, for some reason it loses my alerts that are stored.

Now when i first got ANRB i set 2 alerts and 1 aircraft, since loading the beta's i added more alerts but when it loses the extra added alerts i put in and it seems to always revert back to my original 3 i set. (Strange as i have deleted all older versions) This has happened about 3 times now (i know not a real headache but it would be if i had enter loads), how is it defaulting back to my original alerts (even tho i have never had an alert show up since loading the beta's) but maybe this has something to do with the problems of no alerts showing up.

I hope you get the gist of what i am trying to explain.

Is there any progress of the bug being finally nailed by the support team yet?

Cheers
Rich.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: RodBearden on August 04, 2009, 05:21:37 PM
Rich

It does seem odd that as far as I know, no-one else is experiencing this problem. As you say, the alerts are stored in the Registry.

This may possibly be related to the minor bug that RB doesn't remember colour schemes, which are also held in the Registry.

You aren't doing a lot of system restores, are you?

Rod
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: slipdog on August 04, 2009, 06:07:10 PM
Hi Rod,

I have never ever done a system restore, my computer runs 24/7/365 and i have never turned it off in the 3 years i've had it. (I lied, once to install a new cd rom)

So details are stored in the registry? maybe something still there causing problems.

I run XP and i never upgraded to the beta's i always did a full install but i have uninstalled the originals a week or so ago.

Maybe i should take it completely off my computer then re-install it, maybe the alerts will work then.

Cheers

Rich.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Spaice on August 04, 2009, 07:45:54 PM
Not sure if this is a problem with the network or RB v3.01 beta, but When i activate network flights Rb runs very eratic network flights come and go on the screen and the flights from my flights also pause for long periods of time, if i switch off network flights then all runs smoothly again.  Any ideas, I know that my internet connection is working fine.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: dor4x on August 04, 2009, 08:20:13 PM
Spaice:  I have the same problem (You can read my post on page 13 on this thread)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: sterigia on August 04, 2009, 08:28:24 PM
i have resolved the issue, it works for me. uninstall the version 3 and reinstall the version 2 and you get none of these problems. i will reinstall 3 on the next beta realease if the problems have been solved. i have over 1000 network flights and they don't disappear or go to zero like with the beta
cheers
frank, sardinia
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: slipdog on August 04, 2009, 09:28:34 PM
Hi Sterigia,

I have done the same and gone back to v2, network is solid now at 700ish flights where i was only receiving around 300-400 on v3 and my alerts came back!!
Weird thing is that it has remembered setting for my alerts from v3, there is defo something not being deleted from the registry.
I'll try it again when the v3 is a bit more robust.

Cheers

Rich.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: sterigia on August 04, 2009, 09:51:44 PM
so i have noticed, folders are not erased too.must be an anticrack feature so you don't install the free trial more than once
frank
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Jollygreen on August 05, 2009, 12:09:03 AM
Have downloaded the 3.01 Beta onto my new PC that is running on Vista and cannot connect to either the hardware or network. Any ideas.

After downloding the 3.01 it mentioned a digital signature for the device drivers but do not know what to do. Running Vista Home Premium SP1

A frustrated AirNav user

Nigel
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Spaice on August 05, 2009, 07:10:32 AM
Good morning all,

I noticed last night that the emailing of my reports would not work in V3.01, I know it did not work in V3 beta but iwas fixed in 3.01, the network did seem to be very slow ast night could it be the servers at airnav causing this issue?

Regards

Stephen
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: slipdog on August 05, 2009, 08:12:12 AM
@ Spaice,

It is the first time that my emailing reports didn't work last night too and i'm back on v2, must have something to do with airnav servers (which i find strange as i thought that would be done with the software locally) other than that the network is solid and alerts are working good. (Yee Ha)

Rich.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: sterigia on August 05, 2009, 08:14:42 AM
seems like many are going back to v2...
frank
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: AirNav Support on August 05, 2009, 08:20:31 AM
The vast majority are still on Version 3 the latest beta.

One of the issues here is that people are not reading any of the posts and making there own minds up on certain issues.

Network:

- Last beta has aggresive timeouts so if your machine doesn't download the data intime you get timeouts of network aircraft and hence the network value changes. This will be fixed in the next version. Most of the time on a good connection this issue will not be noted.

Email Alerts:

These are being sent, please check no spam filters have been setup on your side.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: tarbat on August 05, 2009, 08:24:12 AM
Network:

- Last beta has aggresive timeouts so if your machine doesn't download the data intime you get timeouts of network aircraft and hence the network value changes. This will be fixed in the next version. Most of the time on a good connection this issue will not be noted.

Will v3.02 beta use the network timeouts as setup in Preferences?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: AirNav Support on August 05, 2009, 08:38:34 AM
Yes it should do.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: sterigia on August 05, 2009, 08:46:53 AM
excellent,
frank
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Spaice on August 05, 2009, 08:59:41 AM
Airnav,  I have not set up any spam settings, I emailed a report a few days ago and it worked fine. I emailed a log at around 9:00 and again at 9:30 uk time, but never received them.  I will try again this evening, and see what happens.

regards
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: sterigia on August 05, 2009, 09:22:53 AM
well,
The vast majority are still on Version 3 the latest beta.

One of the issues here is that people are not reading any of the posts and making there own minds up on certain issues.

Network:

- Last beta has aggresive timeouts so if your machine doesn't download the data intime you get timeouts of network aircraft and hence the network value changes. This will be fixed in the next version. Most of the time on a good connection this issue will not be noted.

Email Alerts:

These are being sent, please check no spam filters have been setup on your side.
it is a fact that registry settings are not completely removed and nor are folders removed.
frank
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: slipdog on August 05, 2009, 11:27:42 AM
Airnav,
i have no spam setup either, but this is the only time it has ever happened to me, this could be down to ISP or mail provider etc, maybe not ANRB, i only mentioned it because it happened to someone else. Keep up the good work, i'll try the next beta when its released before i move off v2 again.
Cheers
Rich.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: davec on August 05, 2009, 12:16:18 PM
hi airnav,
i am working beta 3.0,and it works fine apart from intermitent route omisions, however if i use 3.1 network is unworkable, as it does what other people have reported,i only mention this  because it may help to sort out the next fix
regards davec
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: sterigia on August 05, 2009, 02:52:28 PM
support,
 i am only moaning to let you know the issues that are to be fixed. like davec
saluti
frank
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Spaice on August 05, 2009, 06:35:50 PM
Airnav,  I have tried once again to email my log report without success, no spam filtering has been set up, is this something you are looking into as it was fixed with patch 1
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: AirNav Support on August 05, 2009, 08:02:59 PM
Spaice,

Not at the moment, its working for everyone else and our closed beta testers said that issue was fixed as well.

When you mean email mylog report? Do you mean your trying to send the report for the day.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Spaice on August 05, 2009, 08:12:51 PM
Hello Airnav,

Ok I have to eat humble pie, for some reason googlemail decided that the reports sent via Airnav were spoofed using my name and put them into spam.  It has taken me some time to work out what was happening.   Sorry about that, but it was not obvious nor did googlemail show the email as spam it just hid them all.  Sorted now though.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Paulc on August 05, 2009, 08:59:58 PM
Have just down loaded the 3.01 beta and can still report that alerts are not working for me. Having seen a couple of the aircraft appear on the dataline but receiving no alert message being received i am unsure as to what to do next. Any suggestions ?

Alerts worked fine on v2.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: FlightChaser on August 06, 2009, 01:12:24 AM
So Airnav was right all along Spaice. It's good you apologised and you got your problem sorted in the end. It takes a real man to admit he got it wrong, well done!
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Allocator on August 07, 2009, 09:31:32 AM
Afraid not, as I've never seen it freeze :-)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: sterigia on August 07, 2009, 09:36:02 AM
my beta3 freezed too after a random time. i have reinstalled v2 until things get fixed
frank
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: bratters on August 07, 2009, 09:52:14 AM
my beta3 freezed too after a random time. i have reinstalled v2 until things get fixed
frank

Another freezer here after trying 3.01 beta twice. I thought it must be me with a slow PC or something at my end so I'm re-assured (in a way!) to find I'm not alone.
Back on v2 with which I'm happy.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: davec on August 07, 2009, 10:06:57 AM
Hi
could some kind soul send me a copy of beta 3.0 as i have broke my copy
for pcwindows xp
thanks in advance
davec
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Jeremy on August 07, 2009, 10:10:29 AM
I reported the same some time ago. I questioned if it was something to do with my processor speed or screen saver settings, but I have the same thing happen regularly.
Jeremy.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: EINN-07 on August 08, 2009, 12:09:23 AM
I've read through the previous 16 pages of posts on this topic so apologies if I've missed this...
Has anyone else noticed this problem with 3.01 ?

I'm happier than a pig in manure with the latest version -  ATRs, Embraers and bizjets are all throwing up flight numbers and routes (because that box is ticked), something that wasn't available on my previous versions.

However... and this is the bugbear from previous versions... I input the full details for N407BV an A320 due Shannon tonight prior to it's pickup on the box. I have 'Auto Populate Aircraft Data' and 'Download Aircraft Photo' ticked in the preferences box but when the aircraft was picked up, Database Explorer was populated (overwritten ! :-(  ) by 'Tie up extracted from Country Sequence' in the A/C Name field.

This has happened on so many occasions now that I have a real pain in my breasts  with the problem. I also find that for 90% or so of new aircraft picked up that the 'AT' field is populated as three dots in Database Explorer, all other fields correct. Apart from that I'm really happy with V 3.01 and I don't really want to untick the 'Autopopulate' box as it was a real pain updating the dB manually prior to his.

Speaking of 'untick' can we not have an 'opt in' rather than 'opt out' option for 'Share Data' in Preferences/Radar Box. If Ryanair can do it, surely to God Airnav can do it also ?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: pjm on August 08, 2009, 12:58:43 AM
Speaking of 'untick' can we not have an 'opt in' rather than 'opt out' option for 'Share Data' in Preferences/Radar Box. If Ryanair can do it, surely to God Airnav can do it also ?

Unfortunately Airnav have decided hey want to "annoy" (I've deliberately downplayed what I wanted to say there) a significant number of their Radarbox owners by forcing this option ON always, and making you turn it off every time you start the Radarbox program.

Their reasons seem to be for their own commercial gain.

I wouldn't mind if the default option when you install the software was ON, but if a user chooses "not to share" the THEIR data permanently, Airnav should respect that.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: tarbat on August 08, 2009, 06:58:31 AM
I input the full details for N407BV an A320 due Shannon tonight prior to it's pickup on the box. I have 'Auto Populate Aircraft Data' and 'Download Aircraft Photo' ticked in the preferences box but when the aircraft was picked up, Database Explorer was populated (overwritten ! :-(  ) by 'Tie up extracted from Country Sequence' in the A/C Name field.

I find that I can prevent an aircraft being re-populated with erroneous data (eg "..." in AT, "Tie up extracted........" in AN) by putting data in ALL the fields - MS, AR, AT, AN, AC, CN, PT, LK, PT2, and LK2, and by putting a photo in the PHOTO folder.  That way Radarbox no longer tries getting details for the aircraft.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: abrad41 on August 08, 2009, 07:14:13 AM
I have tried putting data in all fields - MS, AR, AT, AN, AC, CN, PT, LK, PT2, and LK2, and the data is still getting over written.  The only thing I have not tried is making sure it has a photo download into the photo folder, but saying that, what about if a photo is not available.

I have spoken about the problems with the database before, this is an important part of the hobby for me and as it work at the moment makes it very hard work keeping on top of it, especaily when I keep updating the navdata file - only for the data to be over written next time that aircraft is picked up.

Andy
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: tarbat on August 08, 2009, 07:28:05 AM
The only thing I have not tried is making sure it has a photo download into the photo folder, but saying that, what about if a photo is not available.

I use this dummy photo on the very rare occasion that a photo can't be find.

And yes, it's not ideal at the moment, but filling in all the fields and getting a photo downloaded is a workaround that works for me.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Allocator on August 08, 2009, 07:33:58 AM
Beat me to it again tarbat - yes, any jpg around 200x135 will do.

The first one named:

registration.jpg

and the second one

registration,1.jpg

with registration replaced with the registration of the aircraft.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: abrad41 on August 08, 2009, 07:38:24 AM
Ok guys will give that a go, sounds a good work round.

Andy
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: tarbat on August 08, 2009, 07:41:04 AM
Beat me to it again tarbat - yes, any jpg around 200x135 will do.

I used something with a big cross on it, so that once a month I can look through my PHOTO folder and easily spot the dummy photos, and go searching on the various photo sites for any new photos.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2476/3800505134_8e4c96e4eb_t.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarbat/3800505134/sizes/o/)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: abrad41 on August 08, 2009, 07:46:54 AM
Another cracking idea.

Must be a good morning today - Thanks

Andy
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: malc41 on August 08, 2009, 08:14:19 AM
With regard to the freezing, my map still freezes but if the map is closed then re-opened it sorts its self out. This is an improvement on the last version
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: EK01 on August 08, 2009, 10:53:35 AM
I've read through the previous 16 pages of posts on this topic so apologies if I've missed this...
Has anyone else noticed this problem with 3.01 ?

I'm happier than a pig in manure with the latest version -  ATRs, Embraers and bizjets are all throwing up flight numbers and routes (because that box is ticked), something that wasn't available on my previous versions.

However... and this is the bugbear from previous versions... I input the full details for N407BV an A320 due Shannon tonight prior to it's pickup on the box. I have 'Auto Populate Aircraft Data' and 'Download Aircraft Photo' ticked in the preferences box but when the aircraft was picked up, Database Explorer was populated (overwritten ! :-(  ) by 'Tie up extracted from Country Sequence' in the A/C Name field.

This has happened on so many occasions now that I have a real pain in my breasts  with the problem. I also find that for 90% or so of new aircraft picked up that the 'AT' field is populated as three dots in Database Explorer, all other fields correct. Apart from that I'm really happy with V 3.01 and I don't really want to untick the 'Autopopulate' box as it was a real pain updating the dB manually prior to his.

Speaking of 'untick' can we not have an 'opt in' rather than 'opt out' option for 'Share Data' in Preferences/Radar Box. If Ryanair can do it, surely to God Airnav can do it also ?

When it eventually works !
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: JStobbie on August 08, 2009, 11:00:58 AM
Since moving to Beta version 3.01 I have had a some strange activity in the Reporter log .... basically if either G-BWDB (ATR72) or JA736J (B777) should be logged they appear thousands of times!! and I do mean thousands. I had both one day this week and the total logged for the day was some 27,000 !! ... there used to be a few instances of these 2 aircraft previously maybe a dozen or so times over a few minutes but this is just crazy.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: viking9 on August 08, 2009, 11:48:25 AM
AirNav,

This seems to be tied up with the problem I have. I output data from port 30003 to PlanePlotter servers and since installing V3.01 beta my RB has been sending spurious aircraft data to the PlanePlotter servers, causing them to ban me from sharing.

Tom
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: tarbat on August 08, 2009, 12:10:00 PM
I output data from port 30003 to PlanePlotter servers and since installing V3.01 beta my RB has been sending spurious aircraft data to the PlanePlotter servers, causing them to ban me from sharing.

Strange.  I share onto the Planeplotter network (sharer pQ), and I haven't been banned.  What IO option are you using in PP - the following work okay:
1. SBS1 tcp (port 30003)
2. Radarbox tcp (port 7879)

I use port 7879 now.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: DaveReid on August 08, 2009, 12:51:44 PM
This seems to be tied up with the problem I have. I output data from port 30003 to PlanePlotter servers and since installing V3.01 beta my RB has been sending spurious aircraft data to the PlanePlotter servers, causing them to ban me from sharing.

I'm not up to speed with the latest versions of PlanePlotter, but it occurs to me that if up to now the RadarBox 30003 output wasn't compatible with the SBS's, then presumably PP takes that into account when you tell it that the output is coming from a RadarBox ?

Now that it is compatible, have you tried telling PlanePlotter to expect SBS-format output ?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: tarbat on August 08, 2009, 01:15:09 PM
Now that it is compatible, have you tried telling PlanePlotter to expect SBS-format output ?

Exactly.  Either use SBS tcp (30003), or Radarbox tcp (7879).  Do not use Radarbox 30003.  This was discussed on the Planeplotter forum when I was closed-beta testing v3.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: viking9 on August 08, 2009, 02:01:37 PM
Tarbat and Dave,

I must have missed those posts - I do tend to spend my time actually tracking aircraft with mlat rather than reading all the posts every day.

Strange that Bev didn't mention it when I had the prob. I'll reinstall v3.01 Beta and try RB tcp.

Thanks for the info guys.

Tom
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Fenris on August 08, 2009, 11:50:32 PM
One thing I've noticed is that if I go to full screen on the map and then back to the normal window, the map scale changes considerably.

I would expect it to come back to where it was originally.

I don't know if this is the same as it was on v2.01 as I could never get the map to show after coming back from full screen.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Paulc on August 09, 2009, 08:57:03 PM
Alerts still not working on V3.0 or 3.1 - worked ok on v2.0
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: AirNav Support on August 09, 2009, 09:15:28 PM
Paulc,

Can you explain what your entering? for most people this is working fine.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Paulc on August 10, 2009, 05:38:57 AM
Am only entering registration info (ie G-FLC* for new Flybe DHC8)  for specific aircraft and as on V2 would hope to get an on screen message pop up. Had one appear on dataline yesterday evening but no alert.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: viking9 on August 10, 2009, 06:41:04 AM
I'm missing some airport names and codes  e.g. Heathrow, Luton, Whilst Gatwick, London City and others are showing. Any ideas? I did a search but couldn't find this mentioned before.

Tom

Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: EK01 on August 10, 2009, 10:33:35 AM
 I quite often get instances where Glasgow and Prestwick airport names do not appear when the 'Fix' for Lanak is named on the map. If I turn Fixes off and then on again, up pops the names for Glasgow and Prestwick Airports but no name for the Lanak fix although the actual triangle symbol is shown. Most strange. I'm sure it did not happen with the previous version 2.

Ian
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: viking9 on August 10, 2009, 10:44:16 AM
Ian,

Thanks for that tip. I turned on FIX and the missing names reappeared. Turned FIX off and they remained.

Tom
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: EK01 on August 10, 2009, 10:58:18 AM
Tom,

Probably difficult to tell unless you also study a particular 'Fix' as I do with Lanak as it is the main one for Glasgow and Edinburgh airports but did you notice if any of the names of the 'Fixes' disappeared when you got your airport names back ?

Ian
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: viking9 on August 10, 2009, 11:12:47 AM
Ian,

Affirmative. Some of the ones near Heathrow have gone.

Tom
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: marcdeklerk on August 10, 2009, 07:07:54 PM
Really looking forward to v3.02
Airnav can you please add the google earth maps again as a option

Thanks! Marc
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: EK01 on August 11, 2009, 02:14:35 PM
Ian,

Affirmative. Some of the ones near Heathrow have gone.

Tom

Tom,

Thanks for that confirmation. It's as if the RB cannot handle all the available information at the one time on occasions. Still as long as the little triangle symbol for the 'fix' point remains I can put up with it.

Cheers,

Ian
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: marcdeklerk on August 13, 2009, 06:03:04 AM
Ainav, how's v3.02 doing ? Thanks
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: AirNav Support on August 13, 2009, 07:49:19 AM
We are awaiting drivers. The next release will be a full release not a beta.

We thank all the beta testers who have helped us.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: sterigia on August 13, 2009, 09:59:38 AM
airnav will it fix the network timeout issue?
thanks
frank
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: AirNav Support on August 13, 2009, 10:41:22 AM
Yes :)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: sterigia on August 13, 2009, 10:49:58 AM
at last , thanks
frank
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: dumpty on August 13, 2009, 01:00:10 PM
Hi Airnav

I am still not getting flight number alerts(I am missing them)

Simon
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: marcdeklerk on August 13, 2009, 01:37:56 PM
How long can we expect to wait? Pls confirm that google maps will be avalb aswell in full release?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: AirNav Support on August 13, 2009, 01:44:50 PM
What do you mean google earth maps? they were never included in the first place. We only use NASA maps.

We are waiting the 64bit drivers at present so cannot give a date.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: Allocator on August 13, 2009, 05:57:14 PM
Hi Airnav

I am still not getting flight number alerts(I am missing them)

Simon

Flight number alerts are working fine.  Remember that the aircraft needs to be displaying a valid Flight ID otherwise you won't get an alert.  Also, what you put in the alerts setting box has to match the Flight ID.

To get one Flight ID alert, I often have to put 4 entries into the box:

BA59
BA059
BAW59
BAW059

And even then, it depends on the crew getting the input right!
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: EK01 on August 13, 2009, 07:24:38 PM
What do you mean google earth maps? they were never included in the first place. We only use NASA maps.

We are waiting the 64bit drivers at present so cannot give a date.

How many users are requiring the 64 bit drivers and how many are just requiring a patch sent out fixing the Network problem. At this rate, I suspect we are all going to have to wait an awful long time before we see a network improvement. How many times is that now we have heard about these 64 bit drivers. Would it not be more sensible to release the full working version now and then a patch for the 64 bit drivers when/if they are ever released !
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: sterigia on August 13, 2009, 08:36:43 PM
airnav,
personally i would like the fix for the network problem which i think is more urgent and more demanded, then the other fixes as they come along can be added until version 3.2. not many of us have a 64 bit os,but many of us have the network problem. it is a question of priority on my part even though it may seem a bit selfish, for the moment i would like to instal vers 3.1 beta with the network problem solved.
thanks
frank
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: f6gsg on August 13, 2009, 09:09:21 PM
hi Allocator,

i'm not agree about Alerts for Flight number works well,

if i entries FP* , the alert works some time !!!!
or  must be consider that the * not working.

FP is the first caracter for all Postal Flight in France, and
twice a day theses flight landing at Montpellier airport. (very easy to test).

and so another test, for the flight AF684ZA who his well displayed on
the Radar Box, there is no alerts.... This flight landing every evening
at Montpellier airport and i have never display another data other
AF684ZA.

But i understand that sometimes the data depends of the crew typing.

Patrick / F6GSG
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta
Post by: AirNav Development on August 13, 2009, 10:06:31 PM
To keep things organized, we have closed this topic and opened a new one.
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