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Title: V3.01 Beta - Released to the Public
Post by: AirNav Development on July 23, 2009, 12:11:40 PM
Just to thanks you all for the always superb support received on this board.
Without you it wouldn't be impossible to release this new version. It is very hard to a software released and working at 100% for over 3000 users but it is something we want to accomplish.

Now it's time to follow the discussion on our open board and to see what is the feedback from the general public.

One more time thank you!


Title: Re: V3.01 Beta - Released to the Public
Post by: RodBearden on July 23, 2009, 05:35:30 PM
I don't particularly want to air this on the main forum, but my network grid is worse than ever - not only is it jumping around as before, but now the number of flights is going mad - sometimes it's showing 700+ flights, then suddenly it will drop to 3, or 400, or 60, and then back to 700+ again. Occasionally it goes blank for a few seconds as I think has been mentioned here before.

Generally the flights still show on the map, but occasionally they disappear along with the grid.

Nobody in the main forum has mentioned this, so, paranoid as ever, I'm worried that it's just me!

Rod
Title: Re: V3.01 Beta - Released to the Public
Post by: tarbat on July 23, 2009, 05:49:33 PM
Rod,

I'm seeing a similar problem.  Network flights just went from 830+ down to 74, stayed like that for a few seconds, then went to 700+, and now shows only 21.

I wonder if there's something in the network timeout settings that causes this?

EDIT:  This jumping around of numbers only seems to happen if I take the focus away from the ANRB window.
Title: Re: V3.01 Beta - Released to the Public
Post by: RodBearden on July 23, 2009, 05:58:32 PM
Tarbat - isn't it odd that no-one on the main forum has reported it.

I wonder if we should download the full version rather than using just the new EXE?

Rod
Title: Re: V3.01 Beta - Released to the Public
Post by: tarbat on July 23, 2009, 06:01:04 PM
Tarbat - isn't it odd that no-one on the main forum has reported it.

Give them time!!!   Yes, I just used the EXE, but I'm reluctant to download the full version.
Title: Re: V3.01 Beta - Released to the Public
Post by: tarbat on July 23, 2009, 06:06:49 PM
Rod, what are your network timeout settings?

I've changed to 160/20, and haven't seen the problem since.

EDIT: Spoke too soon.  Even with these timeout settings, network flights just dropped to 5.
Title: Re: V3.01 Beta - Released to the Public
Post by: Allocator on July 23, 2009, 06:51:33 PM
Yes, definitely happening here too.  Selected Get Flights From Network and the count went 680 5 15 650 752 so something not quite right there.  My Network timeouts are 90/180.

I didn't see any such problem with any of the Beta exe files.

Now seems to have settled in the 680's but I'll keep an eye on it.
Title: Re: V3.01 Beta - Released to the Public
Post by: EMA on July 23, 2009, 06:54:40 PM
I have the same issue with the network total dropping away, I assumed it was the server.
Title: Re: V3.01 Beta - Released to the Public
Post by: AirNav Support on July 23, 2009, 07:04:55 PM
It may be the server, we are taking a look.
Title: Re: V3.01 Beta - Released to the Public
Post by: CAM on July 23, 2009, 08:28:09 PM
I have noticed the network flights are lower than usual, circa 600 - 700 flights, the network is usually around 1100-1400.

Looks like there is a network issue currently, but the above is seemingly a different issue?

I am using the version posted in http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=3117.0
Post 5

Time out on network is 110/180, which is usually fine
Title: Re: V3.01 Beta - Released to the Public
Post by: RodBearden on July 23, 2009, 09:06:23 PM
CAM - I think you should be using the version on the public forum now.

As to the network flights, AirNav have said that the number will be lower now because they're using a shorter timeout on the server to stop clutter from old flights that used not to go away.

I hope that the current dramatic jumps in network flight numbers (from 700 to 3, for example) are just a server blip, not directly caused by the new release.

Rod
Title: Re: V3.01 Beta - Released to the Public
Post by: Allocator on July 23, 2009, 09:39:01 PM
The Network looks a bit more stable now, with the numbers between 460 and 490.
Title: Re: V3.01 Beta - Released to the Public
Post by: prbflight on July 24, 2009, 01:46:27 AM
Hi Everyone,

I'm noticing this too.  Network flight numbers jump up and down even between updating.  It's almost like a time lag effect.

I just used the latest exe as well.  No full download.

Paul@cyyb
Title: Re: V3.01 Beta - Released to the Public
Post by: AirNav Development on July 24, 2009, 01:57:50 AM
The reason for this is easy to explain: network flight position expires if not updated within 30 seconds. Data is downloaded form the network in 30 seconds too. So if there is a delay on an internet data download, lat/longs will be cleared and as the network grid (as per a request received here) only shows flights with lat/long...

In resume we will change the timeout to 60 secs instead of 30.
Title: Re: V3.01 Beta - Released to the Public
Post by: Allocator on July 26, 2009, 09:05:36 AM
I'm still having problems with the Network total jumping from approx 700 to as little as 5 - just dropped to 33 as I type this - now back up to 758.
Title: Re: V3.01 Beta - Released to the Public
Post by: DVDW on July 26, 2009, 09:58:54 AM
I'm still having problems with the Network total jumping from approx 700 to as little as 5 - just dropped to 33 as I type this - now back up to 758.

Same problems over here Allocator. I tried playing around with the network timeout settings however without any result.
Title: Re: V3.01 Beta - Released to the Public
Post by: AirNav Development on July 26, 2009, 11:01:09 AM
This problem has nothing to do with network time-out settings. It is identifiesd and we will correct it for V3.02.
Title: Re: V3.01 Beta - Released to the Public
Post by: Allocator on August 02, 2009, 09:00:30 AM
I know that this is work in progress for V3.02, but a couple of observations now I'm using my main PC at home and using the Network more.

- The Network traffic list is still hopping up and down - known bug

- Sometimes my Network aircraft list drops to zero, but the Network aircraft are still visiblr on the screen.  When I mouse over a Network track on the map, all the aircraft in the list come back

- My live aircraft trails are broken rather than being one line.  I've had this in earlier versions of the software when the Network information has been inconsistent and the live track processing seems to be 'waiting' for the Network info to be processed.

None of these are 'show stoppers' and I'm sure that they are part of the V3.02 bug fix.
Title: Re: V3.01 Beta - Released to the Public
Post by: RodBearden on August 02, 2009, 01:19:46 PM
I'm getting the same as Allocator, and my network screen is still jumping around just like in the video I posted some time ago.

And I'm still getting many flights with valid routes in the routes table not showing on the grid - as in this example - I can't see why it shouln't be showing DAL9's route.

Rod
Title: Re: V3.01 Beta - Released to the Public
Post by: RodBearden on August 02, 2009, 03:52:52 PM
And another thing! - Alerts are still causing RB to jump to the front - usually this is a minor nuisance, but just now, I was closing a program with the red close button, when RB suddenly jumped to the front, and I couldn't stop myself closing that instead - that's annoying!

Rod