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Title: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: Allocator on July 12, 2009, 10:28:55 AM
I am the author of JSTARS http://jstars.altervista.org/ and I am trying to understand if JSTARS works well with RadarBox.
Did anyone make a test or use it?
Does a radarbox emulator/simulator exist to test its flow data on port?

For me it's important to understand which kind of data are useful for further features.

Any comments/feedback are welcome.

Regards
Rob
JSTARS
http://jstars.altervista.org/

Refreshing the subject of the JSTARS Software aircraft detection and logging add-on software (yes, I KNOW that I keep saying that RadarBox doesn't need any add-ons, but I DO like this one).

The latest V3.0 Beta Patch 1 undergoing closed Beta testing now works very well with Rob's JSTARS program.  I've registered JSTARS and am using the latest version as Rob has continued to develop the program.  His website is here:

http://jstars.altervista.org/index.html

The good news is that JSTARS uses the ID message that comes out of Port 30003 in real-time, although for a logging program, I don't suppose that it makes a great deal of difference if the information is live or not.  Anyway, here a few screen shots.

Title: Re: JSATRS For RadarBox
Post by: Allocator on July 12, 2009, 10:29:46 AM
More screen shots.
Title: Re: JSATRS For RadarBox
Post by: Allocator on July 12, 2009, 10:30:31 AM
And the last 2 screen shots.
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: Allocator on July 12, 2009, 06:53:32 PM
That's the mil log for today.  JSTARS has an adjustable timer to prevent getting double 'hits' if the same aircraft is detected a few minutes apart.  I'm still experimenting with this, hence the occasional duplicate.
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: EMA on July 12, 2009, 06:57:42 PM
Thanks for this information Allocator.
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: JSTARS on July 13, 2009, 01:06:17 PM
As Allocator reported, JSTARS has a system to prevent code duplication in its log, due to its log engine that sometime could be "joked" by not constant data/callsign transmission from traffic. It depends from many variables, like distance from traffic and your antenna, traffic is not transmitting always its callsign, crew/on board computer sets/changes often their callsign, this means that on port 30003 will arrive many ID/AIR data rows that would be logged.... to avoid it, I added a timer based on my experimental tests and I found good a time of 4 minutes, usually is the best choice.
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: Allocator on July 13, 2009, 05:53:57 PM
Hi JSTARS,

Thanks for the information.  I expect that there will be a number of RB users who want to try out JSTARS once they get the latest version of the RB software with the correct port 30003 output - sometime this week with a bit of luck.
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: malc41 on July 13, 2009, 08:50:43 PM
Is this our Rod with a second job? :-)
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: Allocator on July 13, 2009, 09:14:31 PM
No, it's Rob, not Rod :-)
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: Allocator on July 23, 2009, 07:00:13 PM
Time to have a play with JSTARS if you want to experiment with a logging add-on as this works well with the new V3.0 release of RB.  The unregistered version has some of the options disabled, but it still detects the aircraft and writes the logs.

http://jstars.altervista.org/
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: abrad41 on July 24, 2009, 11:36:10 AM
Allocator

Hello mate, I am having problems saving logs - is this because I am using the lite version.

Cheers

Andy
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: abrad41 on July 24, 2009, 11:55:28 AM
Allocator

No probs mate, all working now

Andy
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: JSTARS on July 24, 2009, 07:24:20 PM
JSTARS Data files - 24 July 2009

download updated version: 102796 civilian, military, governative, general aviation aircrafts etc.., 3473 military/governative aircrafts)
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: Frank on July 25, 2009, 08:18:40 AM
Is Jstars working with the beta 3.01 release?

Looks like a nice add-on to me

Frank
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: tarbat on July 25, 2009, 08:25:44 AM
Is Jstars working with the beta 3.01 release?

Yes, it works great with the v3.01 beta.  In fact it was one of the addons we specifically tested during closed beta testing.
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: abrad41 on July 25, 2009, 03:25:10 PM
Works very well with V3.01 beta.

Great bit of software, Thanks Rob

cheers

Andy
Title: JSTARS latest version 1.2.3 available
Post by: JSTARS on July 26, 2009, 09:43:52 AM
JSTARS v1.2.3 full version

JSTARS v1.2.3 quick update version  (it contains only jstars.exe file)

available for download

New features:

- New automatic daily log sender feature, based on time choice
- Minor updates


JSTARS Data - 25 July 2009
download updated version: 102799 civilian, military, governative, general aviation aircrafts etc.., 3474 military/governative aircrafts)
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: John Racars on July 26, 2009, 10:24:52 AM
Hi Rob,

Can the program be used for report functions? Reports I like to make are daily reports of flights being in my area of reception the day before with all informations of the flights like starttime, callsign, route-information, a/c registration, a/c type etc.
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: Allocator on July 26, 2009, 10:34:39 AM
John,

JSTARS reports the following details as shown in the picture.

To get route information would require access to a separate database as route information isn't transmitted by the aircraft - then we would all be back in the situation of 'The route database is out of date' :-0

The time shown is effectively the start time, but there is no end time.

Why don't you try JSTARS, as it's free to use with some functions disabled, but you can create custom data files with Notepad and the logs are written and can also be viewed with Notepad.
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: Allocator on July 26, 2009, 11:03:15 AM
A quick summary of what JSTARS does for those that are interested - at least as far as I understand :-)

- JSTARS reads the live AIR and ID messages from RB port 30003 (and these are live, not delayed even in the latest RB software)

- JSTARS then compares the received hex code against its own database and fills in the aircraft registration and owner details.

- JSTARS comes with 3 databases - Global (everything), Military or Custom.  If you just want to use the Global and Military databases, the author updates these regularly and they are available for download from the JSTARS website.

- The Custom database is initially empty, but you can edit this with any txt editor to include what you like.  The fields are separated with the'|' symbol.  See a small section of my Custom data file below.

000017|J-064|F16|Netherland Air Force
000022|K2661|IL76|Indian Air Force
0000CC|FA|F-16AM|Belgium Air Force
0000DC|FA|F-16AM|Belgium Air Force
000A11|165158|C130T|US Navy
0070C8|--|F15|US Air Force
0070C9|--|F15|US Air Force
008C75|ZS-ESA|GLEX|Rwanda Government
01006B|SU-AYD|FA20|Egypt Government
01006C|SU-AZJ|FA20|Egypt Government
01006D|SU-AXN|FA20|Egypt Government
01006E|SU-BGU|GLF3|Egypt Government
01006F|SU-BGV|GLF3|Egypt Government
010070|SU-BGM|GLF4|Egyptian Air Force
01007D|1280/SU-BAL|C130H|Egypt Air Force
01007E|1281/SU-BAM|C130|Egyptian Air Force
010081|1284/SU-BAQ|C130|Egyptian Air Force
010085|1288/SU-BAU|C130|Egyptian Air Force
010086|1289/SU-BAV|C130|Egyptian Air Force


If you register, then you can also use the JSTARS data editor to make changes to the file.

- JSTARS allows you to select one on the 3 data files for use when logging aircraft, so my Custom file is a mixture of Military aircraft and those others I'm interested in, like the A380's

OK, those are the basics.  There is an auto email option in the registered version, a data editor and viewer, a screen capture and FTP upload function (haven't tried this) and a few other bits and pieces.  It's a small, clean, efficient (and very cheap) program that might not do everything that you want, but what it does, it does very well.  I'm sure that the author would be receptive to any requests for development if anybody has any good ideas.

No, I'm not on a percentage here, I just like this program and want to encourage the author to keep developing it ;-)

Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: John Racars on July 26, 2009, 11:14:37 AM
- The Custom database is initially empty, but you can edit this with any txt editor to include what you like.  The fields are separated with the'|' symbol.  See a small section of my Custom data file below.

Hi Allocator,

Thank you for your informations!

Does this mean that I can use this "Custom database" for (exemple) a routedatabase like my local RB routedatabase?
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: Allocator on July 26, 2009, 11:16:57 AM
- The Custom database is initially empty, but you can edit this with any txt editor to include what you like.  The fields are separated with the'|' symbol.  See a small section of my Custom data file below.

Hi Allocator,

Thank you for your informations!

Does this mean that I can use this "Custom database" for (exemple) a routedatabase like my local RB routedatabase?

John, no you can't use a custom route database, only a custom AIRCRAFT database.  There is no system in the JSTARS software to take the aircraft Flight ID and then look this up in another database.  If displays the Flight ID as transmitted by the aircraft, but it doesn't do anything with it.
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: Allocator on July 26, 2009, 11:20:38 AM
A small pointer for you if you are trying JSTARS and are not getting any data - if you are running a Firewall, you need to grant JSTARS access to the RadarBox port 30003 data.  I use ZoneAlarm and the first time I run a new JSTARS exe, I get the pop up window 'Do you want to grant JSTARS.exe access etc".  JSTARS isn't accessing the Internet, just the port 30003 data from RB.

This is just the same as when you run RadarBox for the first time - it shows that your Firewall is watching out for you :-)
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: radarspotter10 on July 27, 2009, 12:43:30 AM
hi.
it says jstar.ini. does not exist,what am i doing wrong.
from pat
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: JSTARS on July 27, 2009, 05:54:02 AM
Allocator - thanks for your wide explanation about JSTARS, I could not do it better :-)
and yes... you are helping me to follow its developing... but it's my big pleasure first, because I am the first user of it (I wrote JSTARS to help my monitor activity :-P)

John - JSTARS is able to get log of airplanes detected by your radar but it's not able to get any data routing (information added by radarbox software, but not sent from airplane transponder).

radarspotter10 - the first time you install JSTARS on you PC, JSTARS.INI doesn't exist.
You must create it simply going to Settings/Options and fill form with data requested. Giving OK/Save you will create automatically a JSTARS.ini to keep your settings.

For others - actually two users of RadarBox are reporting that JSTARS is not able to work, failing its reception of raw data from RB on 30003 port.
Inquiries are in progress.
An user sent me a raw data view, taken with raw viewer (application inside JSTARS) and I've discovered that only MSG type of data was arriving. JSTARS doesn't decode MSG type, only ID/AIR.
Maybe RadarBox has any options to adjust this output???
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: DaveReid on July 27, 2009, 06:22:13 AM
For others - actually two users of RadarBox are reporting that JSTARS is not able to work, failing its reception of raw data from RB on 30003 port.
Inquiries are in progress.
An user sent me a raw data view, taken with raw viewer (application inside JSTARS) and I've discovered that only MSG type of data was arriving. JSTARS doesn't decode MSG type, only ID/AIR.
Maybe RadarBox has any options to adjust this output???

Make sure you are using the latest RadarBox beta release - it outputs the full range of message types including AIR and ID.
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: Allocator on July 27, 2009, 06:50:11 AM
Dave is absolutely correct - you must be using the latest Beta version of the RadarBox software, thanks to Dave, port 30003 does now put out the correct information whereas earlier versions didn't.
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: Allocator on July 27, 2009, 08:02:03 AM
And you need the JAVA runtime too.

.:: Requirements to run JSTARS ::.

- PC/Windows (tested on MS Windows XP Pro, in MS Windows Vista, it could give some problems due to safety features of this Operative System) enough power to run BaseStation software by Kinetic Avionics
- JAVA Enviroment installed version 6 or above. Get it here: JAVA for your PC by SUN.
- Kinetic BaseStation running for real-time logging features
- AirNav RadarBox running for real-time logging features (not supported yet - coming soon)

- Less than 10 MByte on your HardDisk
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: Frank on July 27, 2009, 08:16:56 AM
 There might be another reason why Jstars is not working

Because I live in the Netherlands (it's quite nice here,you know) I use Dutch for my Regional Settings. The only way out for me to let the port 30003 output of the Radarbox work together with Jstars is to change my Regional Settings into English (United Kingdom). Then the program works great!.
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: malc41 on July 27, 2009, 11:17:03 AM
There might be another reason why Jstars is not working

Because I live in the Netherlands (it's quite nice here,you know) I use Dutch for my Regional Settings. The only way out for me to let the port 30003 output of the Radarbox work together with Jstars is to change my Regional Settings into English (United Kingdom). Then the program works great!.

anybody any idea why this should happen?
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: DaveReid on July 27, 2009, 11:25:16 AM
There might be another reason why Jstars is not working

Because I live in the Netherlands (it's quite nice here,you know) I use Dutch for my Regional Settings. The only way out for me to let the port 30003 output of the Radarbox work together with Jstars is to change my Regional Settings into English (United Kingdom). Then the program works great!.

anybody any idea why this should happen?

Likely to be connected with the use of commas in place of decimal points in Windows sur le Continent.
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: Allocator on July 27, 2009, 04:26:38 PM
There might be another reason why Jstars is not working

Because I live in the Netherlands (it's quite nice here,you know) I use Dutch for my Regional Settings. The only way out for me to let the port 30003 output of the Radarbox work together with Jstars is to change my Regional Settings into English (United Kingdom). Then the program works great!.

Well spotted Frank - I hadn't considered this issue.  Hopefully Rob will be able to come up with a fix, or is this a RB software snag?
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: malc41 on July 27, 2009, 07:20:50 PM
Something as simple as that eh!
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: Allocator on July 27, 2009, 09:31:14 PM
For those of you playing with JSTARS, here are 2 useful functions that you might not have noticed.

- When using the JSTARS Log Viewer (registered version only) in HTML format, clicking on the aircraft registration will open the Airliners.net website at the thumbnail page for that aircraft.

- The log files produced by JSTARS are comma delimited, so they can be opened in a spreadsheet for manipulation - here shown using the free OpenOffice Calc spreadsheet program.
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: Allocator on August 02, 2009, 01:58:47 PM
My JSTARS hits from this morning using my custom file which is Robs Military JSTARS file plus the A380's and Aviat Husky G-DOGY operated by a friend of mine :-)
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: EK01 on August 02, 2009, 06:14:18 PM
My JSTARS hits from this morning using my custom file which is Robs Military JSTARS file plus the A380's and Aviat Husky G-DOGY operated by a friend of mine :-)
[/quote
Allocator,

That is a very strange occurrence. Your Jstars01.jpg on this reply timed at 02.58pm shows a BN2T of the Army Air Corp registration ZF573 with a mode S of 43C38B and an ID of ZZZZZZZZ. This is the exact same mode S  code and ID that Rod Bearden and I picked up this morning only it was relating to an Army Air Corp BN2T with a registration of ZH536.
How can 2 different registered aircraft be using the same mode S .
It is the second last entry on the attached.


Cheers,

Ian
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: Allocator on August 02, 2009, 06:36:16 PM
Very easy answer to this one.  JSTARS uses the database that Rob has put together and he has 43C38B as ZF537.  RadarBox uses it's auto-populated NavData.db3 database and this has 43C38B as ZH536, as shown in My MyLog file.

This just goes to show how difficult it is to maintain any database that is 100% correct.  Are we fairly sure that this aircraft is ZH536, if so, then it's a few seconds work to use JSTARS built-in data editor to change it :-)
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: EK01 on August 02, 2009, 06:49:17 PM
Very easy answer to this one.  JSTARS uses the database that Rob has put together and he has 43C38B as ZF537.  RadarBox uses it's auto-populated NavData.db3 database and this has 43C38B as ZH536, as shown in My MyLog file.

This just goes to show how difficult it is to maintain any database that is 100% correct.  Are we fairly sure that this aircraft is ZH536, if so, then it's a few seconds work to use JSTARS built-in data editor to change it :-)

Allocator,

Having checked both GAS and Airframes sites they give 43C38B as relating to BN2T Army Air Corps registration ZF573 with a c/n of 2034. Incidentally, not ZF537 as you have put in above. It's been a long day ! Therefore, we can take it that the RB database is incorrect as showing the registration as ZH536.

Ian
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: Allocator on August 02, 2009, 08:14:14 PM
Ian,

Thanks for that - yes, my typing error :-)
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: JSTARS on August 04, 2009, 05:39:14 AM
Hi all,

I've published the new JSTARS version:

1.2.5

- Improved SMTP mail server authentication support

- New alert sound when traffic is detected

- Improved AirNav RadarBox support

- Added a switch to choose which virtual radar standard you are using (SBS-1 / RadarBox)

- Full support of RadarBox D008.dat flag file, now you can choose if to use Countries.dat or D008.dat file for flag management (also path location)

- Free to choose your personal BMPFlags path/folder

- Minor updates

Special thanks to Gary Wann for big support and availability offered to develop and to test RadarBox features included in this version



also new JSTARS data file updated (also with fixing discussed above about BN2T plane...)


Hope you can enjoy and appreciate this new version, for any feedback, bug report etc.. I am here.

Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: Jollygreen on August 07, 2009, 10:40:56 AM
JSTARS

Downloaded your software but when I launch the exe file all I get is the JSTARS logo and a beep, then nothing.

Any ideas?

Nigel
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: Allocator on August 07, 2009, 11:30:36 AM
JSTARS

Downloaded your software but when I launch the exe file all I get is the JSTARS logo and a beep, then nothing.

Any ideas?

Nigel

Do you have the JAVA runtime software installed?

.:: Requirements to run JSTARS ::.

- PC/Windows (tested on MS Windows XP Pro, in MS Windows Vista, it could give some problems due to safety features of this Operative System) enough power to run BaseStation software by Kinetic Avionics
- JAVA Enviroment installed version 6 or above. Get it here: JAVA for your PC by SUN.
- Kinetic BaseStation running for real-time logging features
- AirNav RadarBox running for real-time logging features (only from AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.01 Beta)

- Less than 10 MByte on your HardDisk

http://java.com/en/download/index.jsp
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: GreekSpy2001 on August 11, 2009, 01:05:01 PM
Been running the free version for two weeks.  Have payed for the full version last week.  Have registered but haven't recieved my reg key. 

Any chance it can be resent?

Thanks

Graham
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: Allocator on August 11, 2009, 04:31:15 PM
Been running the free version for two weeks.  Have payed for the full version last week.  Have registered but haven't recieved my reg key. 

Any chance it can be resent?

Thanks

Graham

Graham,

Just confirm that you have completed the registration from within JSTARS as well as paying the registration fee (I didn't do this until prompted by Rob!):

Use JSTARS Help > Register as shown in the on-line Help here (in the Using JSTARS > Menu Options > Help > Register)

http://jstars.altervista.org/help/index.html

Also, you should note that JSTARS isn't an AirNav program and the JSTARS author might not be monitoring the forum here.  His email address is on the JSTARS website.
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: GreekSpy2001 on August 11, 2009, 04:34:10 PM
Yep Confirm both.  Paid thru paypal and register thru the help menu

Graham
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: Allocator on August 11, 2009, 04:36:47 PM
You had better contact the author direct then.
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: Allocator on August 13, 2009, 10:43:18 AM
Yep Confirm both.  Paid thru paypal and register thru the help menu

Graham

Graham,

Did you sort this out?  I've found the JSTARS author very helpful and quick with his email responses.
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: JSTARS on August 14, 2009, 05:15:56 AM
My sincere apologize if I am not so often here.
Having a Kinetic platform, I come here to update myself with last news about RB and JSTARS behaviour with it.

By the way, first, thanks alot Allocator to be so precious with your help to the users, much appreciated.

Graham contacted me by email and I think now all is solved successfully.

Jollygreen, it seems a typical problem about JAVA Virtual Machine missing, try to follow instruction reporter by Allocator or in JSTARS website to solve it.

A short update:

Now I am working to an interesting feature I think, suggested me by an user.
Feature is to extract also the squawk code of the air traffic logged.
In many cases, this information could help to understand in which area/sector that traffic has been flown.
It requests a bit of work, but I hope to release it (working :-P) as soon as possible.
Stay tuned!
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: GreekSpy2001 on November 14, 2009, 10:17:56 AM
Hi

Sent a pm JSTARS author but has anyone else seen this? 

Setup 64bit win 7 as a dual boot on my XP machine.  JSTARS runs ok on XP but with the Win7 install in refuses to acknowledge the license.dat file and only runs as an unregistered shareware version. 

Graham
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: Allocator on November 14, 2009, 02:07:52 PM
Graham,

As the JSTARS author only visits this forum occasionally, a PM is probably not going to produce a quick response.  I suggest that you contact Rob via his contact email address on the JSTARS website.

http://jstars.altervista.org/

jstars_software [AT] yahoo.com

Have you put the license.dat file in the same directory as JSTARS.exe file?
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: GreekSpy2001 on November 14, 2009, 06:15:06 PM
Yep .dat file in the same directory.  Running it from same directory that was ok under XP.  Will await a reply from my email.

Thanks

Graham
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: JSTARS on November 22, 2009, 11:58:27 AM
Just for information,
license.dat is issued on the base of a crypted code generated by JSTARS during registration request. Windows version is one of the parameter interested by this process, that's why with Windows XP it works fine and with Windows 7 not.
A new license.dat file must be issued under a registration request sent by JSTARS who runs under Win7.
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: JSTARS on November 22, 2009, 11:59:25 AM
JSTARS Data - 22 November 2009 updates

download updated version: 102918 civilian, military, governative, general aviation aircrafts etc.., 3611 military/governative aircrafts)

http://jstars.altervista.org/
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: JSTARS on February 20, 2010, 06:58:34 PM
JSTARS Data -  20 Febraury 2010

download updated version: 102983 civilian, military, governative, general aviation aircrafts etc.., 3686 military/governative aircrafts

http://jstars.altervista.org/
Title: Re: JSTARS For RadarBox
Post by: JSTARS on May 23, 2010, 04:57:30 PM
JSTARS Data - 23 May 2010

download updated version: 103057 civilian, military, governative, general aviation aircrafts etc.., 3767 military/governative aircrafts)