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Title: NA
Post by: RodBearden on July 11, 2009, 08:45:52 PM

I'm seeing an awful lot of network flights with NA as the Status, and they're not on the map. What's that about?

Rod

Title: Re: NA
Post by: EMA on July 11, 2009, 09:19:31 PM

Thats a new one, not noticed that before.

Title: Re: NA
Post by: tarbat on July 11, 2009, 09:43:11 PM

I'm seeing lots of NA in the network list as well.

Title: Re: NA
Post by: RodBearden on July 12, 2009, 01:24:36 AM

It's quite a problem!
(http://www.rbearden.toucansurf.com/NA.gif)

Rod

Title: Re: NA
Post by: AirNav Development on July 12, 2009, 01:31:25 AM

NA means not available, flights which status is unknown. You will see lots of these flights on ground.

Title: Re: NA
Post by: tarbat on July 12, 2009, 07:09:57 AM

I don't remember seeing so many NA aircraft in previous versions.  Is there some other factor causing this?

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3455/3712431244_b7270cee3b_t.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarbat/3712431244/sizes/o/)

Title: Re: NA
Post by: EMA on July 12, 2009, 07:12:06 AM

There are an awful lot of NA's at the moment.

Title: Re: NA
Post by: RodBearden on July 13, 2009, 09:51:42 AM

Quote from: AirNav Development on July 12, 2009, 01:31:25 AM

NA means not available, flights which status is unknown. You will see lots of these flights on ground.

Dev - no we won't - because they don't show position!

I'm a bit confused by this - it used to be that all flights on the network (except timeouts) showed position - by definition, they only got onto the network if they did show position.

These NA flights are confusing the issue. Is this change a genuine enhancement or a bug?

Rod

Title: Re: NA
Post by: tarbat on July 13, 2009, 11:42:46 AM

Even stranger, some of the NA aircraft hav no position, but do have a Dist(NM) value.  If Radarbox doesn't know the position of the aircraft, how can it know the Distance from home?

I've noticed that the NA aircraft don't have Altitude or GS.

Title: Re: NA
Post by: RodBearden on July 14, 2009, 04:03:41 PM

I don't know about you chaps, but I find that the NA aircraft are completely pointless - all RB's telling us is that these aircraft exist, and are probably powered-up.

Why clog up the network and our grids with them?

Rod

Title: Re: NA
Post by: AirNav Development on July 14, 2009, 06:13:42 PM

We will explain what happens: with the new network flight routines to avoid flights being concentrated at runway ends time-outed we had to introduce several time-out routines. These cause that some NW flights change to a different status. There is nothing we can do about the... unless change the flight status routine so it returns a different Status, not NA but...?

Title: Re: NA
Post by: tarbat on July 14, 2009, 06:51:12 PM

Maybe rename NA to TimedOut?  And ensure that these time-out aircraft still display their last known altitude in the aircraft list.

Title: Re: NA
Post by: RodBearden on July 14, 2009, 06:58:25 PM

As I type this, there are 1203 aircraft on the network, and 335 of them are NA. That's over a quarter of them!

If we can't tell where they are, I would rather they weren't there at all.

Rod

Title: Re: NA
Post by: AirNav Development on July 15, 2009, 07:03:17 PM

Corrected. NA flights will not be shown on the Network grid.

Title: Re: NA
Post by: RodBearden on July 15, 2009, 08:06:00 PM

I take it you mean noT - not noW!

Thanks, Dev!

Rod

Title: Re: NA
Post by: AirNav Development on July 16, 2009, 12:43:38 AM

Corrected.