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AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com => AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com Discussion => Topic started by: ch33se on July 01, 2009, 06:19:24 PM
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Hi There
Newbie here still experimenting, but i was building a lovely polar diagram when i left for work this morning and picking up lots of early morning flights, however on coming home this afternoon nothing at all showing, not one flight even though they are overhead.
Ive checked the aerial connections and the box is flickering away merrily.
Is it the weather??
Im using the beta 3 software and have my aerial in the loft which yesterday and this morning was showing some good results.
I live in Glossop near Manchester and get most of the 23 traffic flying more or less directly over me.
Thanks
Bri W
Bri w
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What happens if you shut down the RadarBox software and restart it? Do the flights in MyLog reappear?
What light indications are you getting on the RadarBox hardware receiver?
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Hi There
Have tried closing down and restarting all lights flickering for usb and msgs, last message received in Mylog GNIKO stating it is ADSB equipped at 1859{this a/c based at Man} but no display on the map of anything, ive had a few 757 and A320 which are equipped and flying with in eyesight for about 5 mins and no display on screen.
So Mylog seems to be logging and im getting information on flights showing in Myflights.
Hardware showing connected and occasional msgs coming through, not moved set up since yesterday when i was rcving A/C flying directly overhead at to about 1500ft at Man.
Could it be a prob with Software beta?
If i network i get all the network flights displaying.
Thanks
Bri W
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Have you set any filters, say to show only flight from a certain airport or route, click on show all and clear any filters, you may have done this by accident.
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Hi Bri
I'm in Marple, so only about 4 or 5 miles away - to be honest i'm not picking up much into EGCC on 23 myself tonight either, currently only showing approx a dozen flights in "My flights" which is very low for this time of the evening?
I'm picking up the easyjet/domestic traffic en route to Scotland fine though.
As I type this,it's just jumped to 30 + flights however, which appears about normal time-wise
Keep us posted
Regards
Rich
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Bri
Can you see G-EOMA andG-FDZE - both on my screen full ADS-B on approach to EGCC right now?(time 20:20) - the former should be overhead your position?
Rich
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Nope ive just watched EOMA fly over me and then a long lazy turn onto finals but nothing on the map it was displaing in my flights as OJMR which has just gone over but nothing on screen...............:}
Bri
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Actually had both EOMA and OJMR on finals about 5 mins apart, separated by the Thompson 737 - all three fully tracked
Rich
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Hmmmm
Like i say left for work at 5 this morning and it was displaying allsorts of wonderful traffic, but on arrival home this afternnon not a sausage, im only showing 2 Ei flights in myfligts at the mo and of course no display on screen.
Shall have to go and battle the heat in the loft and have a fiddle with set up and connections.
Bri
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Hmmmm
Like i say left for work at 5 this morning and it was displaying allsorts of wonderful traffic, but on arrival home this afternnon not a sausage, im only showing 2 Ei flights in myfligts at the mo and of course no display on screen.
Shall have to go and battle the heat in the loft and have a fiddle with set up and connections.
Bri
Are you using the standard antenna with the standard length cable?
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Hi all,
Seem to have had a similar problem Flights showing on screen slowly dwindling off. I took a screenshot of what I was seeing. (88 in Myflights) not many on screen.
Shutdown and reebooted RB and (52 in Myflights) but a lot more showing on screen.
First pic 8pm second pic 8:03pm
John
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Sorry last post would not let me send both pics
John
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Could be the bug in v3 beta with aircraft dissapearing from the map. Try zooming in and out and see if the aircraft re-appear.
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Or just left click on the map and drag it a tiny amount.
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Tarbat,
Tried the zooming in and out it had no effect that is what prompted me to take the screen shots.
John
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Checked all connections tried zoomin but alas to no avail, yes i am using original aerial connected to box and a usb 5m extension, box happily flashing away with signals.
No prob yesterday and this morning thought it maybe atmospheric but Rich is getting everything 5 miles from me.
Bri
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Checked all connections tried zoomin but alas to no avail, yes i am using original aerial connected to box and a usb 5m extension, box happily flashing away with signals.
No prob yesterday and this morning thought it maybe atmospheric but Rich is getting everything 5 miles from me.
Bri
I'd get rid of that 5m USB extension and try again - see if that makes a difference. Get your antenna down, put it outside on the window ledge and just use the standard USB cable. You would then be starting from a known point.
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Looks like that could be the way, however originally with the aerial hanging out of the window and without the extension it was even more Marie Celeste type did not pick up anything. As soon as it went in the loft had a 10 times increase was showing 25 flights at 5.30 am this morning. Hoping it not a hardware fault............mind you i dont think it can be as im still picking up the odd transmission in myflights from A/C.
Bri
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Hi all,
Just clicked autopopulate on mylog and closed mylog while it updates to see this?
John
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Just gone back to view my screen and they have started to reappear in myflights. but there are more than 10 aircraft on the screen.
John
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Bri
Traffic in our area is pretty sparse now (I've only got 4 flights,two of which are tracking) but with my set up at almost ground level, that's not unusual or suprising
If you can, post an update tomorrow am and i'll compare again with my coverage
From your polar diagram, it basically resembles the top half of mine, so looks like you are blocked out by something due south,but even so, I've been seeing lots of traffic in the area you were covering before your problem.
John - whilst you are further south, we seem to have similar coverage - is the drop off in numbers very unusual for you, as I also occasionaly experience the number in my flights moving considerably at "peak" times of the day but have just put it down to my location and the interaction with the Pennines/Peak District getting in the way of flights at lower altitude becoming blocked off?
Rich
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John - whilst you are further south, we seem to have similar coverage - is the drop off in numbers very unusual for you, as I also occasionaly experience the number in my flights moving considerably at "peak" times of the day but have just put it down to my location and the interaction with the Pennines/Peak District getting in the way of flights at lower altitude becoming blocked off?
Rich
Hello Rich,
The flights indicating in myflights is about normal for the time of day in the early post, its just that the adsb contacts did not seem to match what I should have been seeing. Another thing I've noticed is after a while you just get Blue (leval) and Green (Descending) on the screen, if you shut down and restart RB you get all the Red (Climbers) showing again as well.
And as for the last two posts I really dont know whats going on, Aircraft showing on screen and nothing in myflights, then they began to reappear. Just rebooted RB and all seems well again.
John
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Early doors 5.am and lo and behold ive now got 16 aircraft and most of them are appearing on my map, wonder if it is temp or atmospheric related?.
Bri
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Still running and still receiving off to work will see if we are still on when i get home
Bri
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Bri
Is it stable now?
Rich
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Hi Rich
Just got back from eating out................and no, once again no flights showing, ill leave it on and see what happens in the morning, im still leaning towards an atmosphere/heat thing.
Bri
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Ch££se,
Can you confirm that your MyFlight list is showing aircraft without any globe signs?
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Yes that is correct
Bri
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Yes that is correct no globe
Bri
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It just the traffic around at those times then. During the busy times you the ADS-B traffic (position details hence globe) will be more apparent while at less busy times there may only be military, cargo, private jets around which don't have ADS-B.
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They have suddenly reappeared again as it has got cooler, dont neccasarily agree with the last statement there are lots of EZY and Ryr flights around all day and when compared to Richs flights and what he is picking up{he is only 5 miles away} it is strange im not receiving anything even when the aircraft are directly over me and descending.
Bri
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If it is due to the heat, is there any antenna connections which are not touching correctly and during the day they do touch due to heat causing expansion. A bit of a long shot though.
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Bri
To confirm your comment, there have been plenty of aircraft tracking all night which you should be seeing on the map - I've been on since around 17:00 BST and it's been very very busy this evening -all sorts of traffic around
One thought -are you running off a desktop or laptop? My laptop has been running in a very peculiar way this afternoon when it was very very hot, which was appearing to slow down the speed of some functionality on Radarbox - could it be your hardware?
Rich
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Hi Rich
Tried it through both laptop and pc same results now friday morning cooler and cloudier and ive 60 Myflights, the most i think ive had, and im displaying lots of a/c it must be due to the weather or temp.
Thanks
Bri
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Hi all,
Returned home from work at 16:15 to find my box had stopped working at 09:51 this morning:-(
Just the green power LED on.
Disconected the USB and reconected and back into life:-)
My box runs 24/7 and has never done this before.
John
Edit :- Its just done it again at 17:11. No error or anything just OFF
Disconnected the USB and reconected and back to life, any ideas anyone?
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John - dodgy USB cable highlighted by the hot weather?
Just a thought.
Rod
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Hi Rod,
Its behaved itself since 5:20pm, so I'll monitor what happens. I'm hoping its a laptop and not a RB problem as I've got a back up laptop:-) If it happens again I'll try a differant USB port and take it from there.
Cheers John
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Fingers crossed from me have been running all day and report everything fantastic.........must have been heat gremlins.
Bri
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Just to say as the weather has cooled ive had no problems at all on all day and picking up all day, my unit is housed in the loft and an active 5metre extension usb to my pc, i can only put it down to heat on those long hot summers days.
Now back to enjoying it.
Bri
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ch33se
glad your back to normal and thanks for sharing your problem
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Ch33se & Marpleman,
I am just down the road from both of you in Hazel Grove, I FTP my Radarbox 24/7(except for last few days BT Issue!), you can check on www.planedaft.co.uk for reference if that helps any ???
CAM