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Title: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: AirNav Development on June 18, 2009, 08:36:32 PM
The date everyone was waiting for has arrived.

After hundreds of programming hours V3.0 - Beta is ready for download.
This marks one more milestone on the successful RadarBox project which has been, just one month ago, the first ADS-B receiver is space.

Note the application is being released as public beta - despite hundreds of testing hours we are totally open for your suggestions.

The download and upgrade are totally free.

RadarBox is the only receiver with an integrated worldwide ADS-B network and with a huge set of features inside a single application without the need of installing 3rd party addons. AirNav RadarBox 2009 - V3.00 is by far the most complete, sophisticated, reliable and accurate ADS-B decoding software ever released.

As usual work never stops at AirNav Systems. We are already developing the brand new "AirNav FlightWatch" application to be released later this year. This will be focused on the professional market but with an enthusiast version also available. It is the only software able to track flights using an worldwide data source network: FAA Radar System, ADS-B, RadarBox Unit, ACARS and Flight Plan information.

Full Download:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/anrb/ANRB30BetaSetup.exe

Upgrade from V2.0 to V3.0 Beta:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/anrb/ANRBUpgrade20to30Beta.exe

Official full list of suggestions/improvements:
- 20% more flight IDs received: decoding of more mode-s protocol frames;
- Tracking of aircraft sending ADS-B information on ground;
- Possibility of writing custom labels on map;
- Optional retrieval of flight information data from online database;
- Flights without callsign information added to MyLog;
- New/Updated AIRAC cycle: more than 100 thousand updated aviation database (airport, runway, VOR, NDB);
- Ability to zoom in closer. Hi-Res airport outlines / track aircraft in taxiways;
- Possibility of auto populating aircraft information without downloading photos;
- Improved Algorithm for the transition of network flights to live (and live to network);
- Corrected problem with Slow Menus on certain machines;
- 1698 Airline Logos (many of them reviewed);
- 404 Country/Military Flags;
- UK/Ireland Time on status bar now shown correctly;
- Choose to show/hide Home position on map;
- Alerts/Reports email reports now sent from central server;
- Improve user awareness of incompatibility with AVG Anti-Virus (easy to add exception);
- More application data being worked inside threads: application runs faster;
- Preferences box now fits different screen resolutions;
- FTP Upload status information on status panel;
- "Purple rain/invalid positions" problem corrected;
- Improved Logo decoding routine: fully compatible with ICAO, IATA, Military and private jet flight codes;
- Option to show/hide Home Legend
- Registration/multiple alerts now working correctly;
- Weather List clearing problem corrected;
- Aviation Signs in Menu status updated;
- Email Alerts at consecutive days problem corrected;
- Duplicates in the Reporter bug corrected;
- Remember of Last Color Used;
- Up/Down arrows to show Vertical Rate on maps;

To all the team involved, especially the dedicated beta-testers a huge thank you!
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: viw on June 18, 2009, 08:39:30 PM
That´s great

Thanks AN!

Regards Gerald
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: abrad41 on June 18, 2009, 08:39:41 PM
Thank you AirNav
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: sterigia on June 18, 2009, 08:40:40 PM
thank you for now. i will uninstall and reinstall
let you know how it works on vista- must i use my original user id and pw?
frank
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Antonio Teixeira on June 18, 2009, 08:40:55 PM
Many thanks AirNav Team downloading NOW!
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Brimon on June 18, 2009, 08:42:34 PM
Thanks to the Airnav team & beta testers.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: bailey_uk on June 18, 2009, 08:44:37 PM
Upgrading now, excting times!
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: vruma on June 18, 2009, 08:55:01 PM
A big "Thank you" to all Airnav staff!

And you even put in the Up/Down arrows. Wonder how you implemented that at last ;O)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Manuel Mendes on June 18, 2009, 09:03:02 PM
Thank you AirNav.
One thing: what happened to BEJ VOR and BJA NDB? It has vanished away...
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: bearcat on June 18, 2009, 09:07:21 PM
Thanks AirNav and testers looking good, just got to find some of the new aditions now.


Stewart
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Allocator on June 18, 2009, 09:10:58 PM
Thank you AirNav.
One thing: what happened to BEJ VOR and BJA NDB? It has vanished away...

I've got BJA in Algeria.  Have you got the NDB's turned on? Map > Aviation Signs > NDB
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Manuel Mendes on June 18, 2009, 09:13:00 PM
Yes NDB, VOR is turned on and there are no VOR dispayed for Portugal only NDB.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: bailey_uk on June 18, 2009, 09:13:18 PM
A big "Thank you" to all Airnav staff!

And you even put in the Up/Down arrows. Wonder how you implemented that at last ;O)

Where abouts are these infamous up/down arrows meant to be?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: carras320 on June 18, 2009, 09:14:10 PM
Thanks Airnav for all of the effort made!!!

Best Regards
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Manuel Mendes on June 18, 2009, 09:15:37 PM
Yes NDB, VOR is turned on and there are no VOR dispayed for Portugal only NDB.

And also no up/down arrows for testing. By the way how do I write in the labels?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Typhoon on June 18, 2009, 09:21:43 PM
Thanks AirNav, downloaded OK and installed on Vista PC with no probs,
and just had my 1st BMA E145 with a callsign :-)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: sterigia on June 18, 2009, 09:23:41 PM
sorry to say but malta, pantelleria and lampedusa seem to have disappeared from the maps as islands not as airports floating in the med. good work all the same
frank
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Allocator on June 18, 2009, 09:23:54 PM
Yes NDB, VOR is turned on and there are no VOR dispayed for Portugal only NDB.

I can see OVR, MTR and MOJ in Portugal
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 18, 2009, 09:24:12 PM
Thanks AirNav, downloaded OK and installed on Vista PC with no probs,
and just had my 1st BMA E145 with a callsign :-)

And route information?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Manuel Mendes on June 18, 2009, 09:27:25 PM
Yes NDB, VOR is turned on and there are no VOR dispayed for Portugal only NDB.

I can see OVR, MTR and MOJ in Portugal
I only see MOJ...
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Canonjohns40D on June 18, 2009, 09:28:09 PM
Cheers Airnav about tto download feel a day off coming on (sneezes twice)

John
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Allocator on June 18, 2009, 09:36:09 PM
Yes NDB, VOR is turned on and there are no VOR dispayed for Portugal only NDB.

I can see OVR, MTR and MOJ in Portugal
I only see MOJ...

Strange.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Antonio Teixeira on June 18, 2009, 09:36:32 PM
VMG, VSM, FRS and VFL VOR's are missing from Azores Islands.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Allocator on June 18, 2009, 09:40:25 PM
VMG, VSM, FRS and VFL VOR's are missing from Azores Islands.


Now the Beta testing REALLY starts :-)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Typhoon on June 18, 2009, 09:43:14 PM
Thanks AirNav, downloaded OK and installed on Vista PC with no probs,
and just had my 1st BMA E145 with a callsign :-)

And route information?

Yes, route info too, the only one so far that I have seen with out a route was FDX5 heading towards the Isle of Man
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: dudbaker on June 18, 2009, 09:44:44 PM
Hi

I have tried both the upgrade an full download.  When I try to run the programme I get this message.  

ANRB.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close.  We are sorry for the inconvenience.

Dudley
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Antonio Teixeira on June 18, 2009, 09:44:54 PM
VMG, VSM, FRS and VFL VOR's are missing from Azores Islands.


Now the Beta testing REALLY starts :-)

Affirmative :-)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: radarphil on June 18, 2009, 09:46:36 PM
ottringham and poll hill vor missing
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: AirNav Development on June 18, 2009, 09:48:52 PM
Maybe a corrupted vor file in the installer. We are checking this right now.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: gbnll on June 18, 2009, 09:50:31 PM
How can we get the stuff thats in the screenshot forum for Heathrow?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Manuel Mendes on June 18, 2009, 09:52:12 PM
And the weather bug was not fixed. I still type two or three different airport codes and they appear on the list multiple times the same code.
Example: I type LPMA to check Madeira METAR, a few minutes later if I type another code I see LPMA on the list 5x.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 18, 2009, 09:53:25 PM
How can we get the stuff thats in the screenshot forum for Heathrow?

The hires outlines are available at http://www.sbs-resources.com/downloads.html
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: waddington1 on June 18, 2009, 09:55:21 PM
wow at last my radarbox runs like a dream on my laptop.  It was running so slow with the old version.

Many thanks

stu
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: radarphil on June 18, 2009, 09:56:03 PM
most airport idents missing eg leeds/bradford ,doncaster,manchester ect
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 18, 2009, 09:57:33 PM
And the weather bug was not fixed. I still type two or three different airport codes and they appear on the list multiple times the same code.
Example: I type LPMA to check Madeira METAR, a few minutes later if I type another code I see LPMA on the list 5x.

Strange, it's fixed okay here.  Check you're definately running the 3.0 beta - check in the window title

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3372/3639037141_a9ca4dcc02_o.jpg)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: radarspotter10 on June 18, 2009, 09:57:54 PM
VMG, VSM, FRS and VFL VOR's are missing from Azores Islands.


Now the Beta testing REALLY starts :-)

Affirmative :-)
hi
Now the Beta testing REALLY starts.
grumblers keep out just honest testers, give us a chance.
from pat
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Allocator on June 18, 2009, 09:59:10 PM
most airport idents missing eg leeds/bradford ,doncaster,manchester ect

I can see these, as either the code or the name without any problem.

Edit: Not Doncaster in fact, but that wasn't there before anyway.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: jango13 on June 18, 2009, 09:59:41 PM
I think Poll Hill as moved over to Linton-on - Ouse
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Really on June 18, 2009, 10:00:10 PM
Hi

I have tried both the upgrade an full download.  When I try to run the programme I get this message.  

ANRB.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close.  We are sorry for the inconvenience.

Dudley

Same problem here, I get the same message, neither the update or full program works, tried it on two different machines, both XP Pro SP3.

Not a great start.

Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: RodBearden on June 18, 2009, 10:03:42 PM
Anybody noticed that you can now press + and - to zoom in and out? :-)))

Rod
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Manuel Mendes on June 18, 2009, 10:04:14 PM
Checked. It's 3.0 Beta.
(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/5656/semttuloxnm.png) (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/semttuloxnm.png/)(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/semttuloxnm.png/1/w352.png) (http://g.imageshack.us/img37/semttuloxnm.png/1/)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: bailey_uk on June 18, 2009, 10:05:49 PM
Dean Cross VOR doesnt appear to show either.

However the waypoints appear much more clearly now.

On the subject of WayPoints (Fix's) I see there are also many more added, including the ones indicating distances to VORs. Is there any of of toggling these extra ones on and off?

James
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 18, 2009, 10:06:37 PM
Checked. It's 3.0 Beta.

Okay.  Maybe try the Clear Drop-Down List Entries button in Preferences, and then see if you still have the problem.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: viking9 on June 18, 2009, 10:07:12 PM
I found a bug. When I go to full screen and then return by pressing escape the aircraft are shown but not the map.

Tom
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 18, 2009, 10:07:49 PM
On the subject of WayPoints (Fix's) I see there are also many more added, including the ones indicating distances to VORs. Is there any of of toggling these extra ones on and off?

Yes, noticed this as well.  It's a shame, as I've had to turn fixes off for now - too many!!  We're never satisfied, are we!
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Really on June 18, 2009, 10:08:33 PM
Hi

I have tried both the upgrade an full download.  When I try to run the programme I get this message.  

ANRB.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close.  We are sorry for the inconvenience.

Dudley

Same problem here, I get the same message, neither the update or full program works, tried it on two different machines, both XP Pro SP3.

Not a great start.


Screenshots should it be any help, get same messages on both Desktop and Laptop, both running XP Pro SP3.

(http://www.hellovictim.co.uk/ANRB1.jpg)

(http://www.hellovictim.co.uk/ANRB2.jpg)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Allocator on June 18, 2009, 10:09:19 PM
I found a bug. When I go to full screen and then return by pressing escape the aircraft are shown but not the map.

Tom

Seems to work OK on my laptop.  I get everything back when I exit full screen.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Manuel Mendes on June 18, 2009, 10:10:01 PM
Okay. The drop-down list was the problem. Now let's focus on the VOR and the other problems. Thanks everyone.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 18, 2009, 10:12:00 PM
Okay. The drop-down list was the problem. Now let's focus on the VOR and the other problems.

Yes, the navigation data was always going to be a difficult area to beta test, without knowledge of the whole world.  Is it worth a separate thread for people to post missing VORs, NDBs, FIXs, etc...
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Typhoon on June 18, 2009, 10:15:47 PM
I found a bug. When I go to full screen and then return by pressing escape the aircraft are shown but not the map.

Tom

Seems to work OK on my laptop.  I get everything back when I exit full screen.

Just tried the full screen view and then return by pressing escape and the map does not show, just the aircraft.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Antonio Teixeira on June 18, 2009, 10:16:57 PM
I found a bug. When I go to full screen and then return by pressing escape the aircraft are shown but not the map.

Tom

Seems to work OK on my laptop.  I get everything back when I exit full screen.

Just tried the full screen view and then return by pressing escape and the map does not show, just the aircraft.

Same Here.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: AirNav Support on June 18, 2009, 10:17:39 PM
Please do not post individual VORs which are missing. The database should have the latest AIRAC Cycle. So if there missing there may be something to do with the data being passed through into RadarBox we will check.

Also just a reminder again. This is a beta so we are to catch bugs and any suggestions. To the guys who can't run the software, we are investigating this, this wasn't seen in any of the closed beta tests.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Fenris on June 18, 2009, 10:18:58 PM
Don't know about those others reporting the full screen + esc problem, but v2.0 always did this for me so it's a bug that has not yet been fixed.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Typhoon on June 18, 2009, 10:20:02 PM
   4CA0BC  EIN6R3   LROP-EIDW       EI-CPC  A321  Aer Lingus  
   4CA0BC  EIN6R3   LROP-EIDW       EI-CPC  A321  Aer Lingus  
   4CA224                                         EI-DCH  B738  Ryanair  
   4CA224  RYR15N   EGNM-EIDW       EI-DCH  B738  Ryanair  
   4CA64B                                         EI-DYI  B738  Ryanair  
   4CA64B  RYR6638  EDAC-EGPH       EI-DYI  B738  Ryanair  
   4CA73C  RYR5951  EGHH-EGPK       EI-EBT  B738  Ryanair  
   4CA73C  RYR5951  EGHH-EGPK       EI-EBT  B738  Ryanair

Anyone looked at MyLog Reporter?
Seem to be getting duplicate entries
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 18, 2009, 10:22:46 PM
I also have the problem of a blank blue screen when returning from full screen, with just the aircraft displayed on a blue background.  Worked okay in the final closed beta.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3635/3639906416_6c2038baa3_m.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarbat/3639906416/sizes/o/)

Quick fix is to do on the menu bar - MAP - OPEN/SAVE - OPEN MAP.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: JRS98 on June 18, 2009, 10:24:15 PM
How about new VORs on the map that aren't actually VORs! How did that happen?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Allocator on June 18, 2009, 10:24:51 PM
  4CA0BC  EIN6R3   LROP-EIDW       EI-CPC  A321  Aer Lingus  
   4CA0BC  EIN6R3   LROP-EIDW       EI-CPC  A321  Aer Lingus  
   4CA224                                         EI-DCH  B738  Ryanair  
   4CA224  RYR15N   EGNM-EIDW       EI-DCH  B738  Ryanair  
   4CA64B                                         EI-DYI  B738  Ryanair  
   4CA64B  RYR6638  EDAC-EGPH       EI-DYI  B738  Ryanair  
   4CA73C  RYR5951  EGHH-EGPK       EI-EBT  B738  Ryanair  
   4CA73C  RYR5951  EGHH-EGPK       EI-EBT  B738  Ryanair

Anyone looked at MyLog Reporter?
Seem to be getting duplicate entries

Just check the times on those duplicates.  I'm only getting them when they are well separated in time.  Maybe being seen as 2 separate flights?

4CA332                                 277       2009/06/18 19:30:38 
   4CA332                              277       2009/06/18 21:50:20 
   772000                             4R-ADB   2009/06/18 21:33:35 
   772000  ALK507   VCBI-VRMM-EGLL  4R-ADB  A343 2009/06/18 19:32:57 
   738074  ELY317   LLBG-EGLL       4X-ECD  B772  2009/06/18 19:28:15 
   738074  ELY318   EGLL-LLBG       4X-ECD  B772   2009/06/18 21:39:57 
   4C8021  CY333    EGLL-LCLK       5B-DBT  A332         2009/06/18 21:12:01 
   4C8021  CYP326   LCLK-EGLL       5B-DBT  A332        2009/06/18 19:10:18 
   04C02A  KQA101   EGLL-HKJK       5Y-KQY  B763      2009/06/18 19:32:15 
   044027                           9G-AXA  DC86  2009/06/18 21:09:19 
   4D201C                           9H-AEF  A320 2009/06/18 19:11:08
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 18, 2009, 10:28:28 PM
Ditto on duplicates in MyLog.  I only see duplicates when there's a time-gap between flights.  Looks okay to me.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: charlie on June 18, 2009, 10:41:26 PM
Just done a full install.

Runs faster, menu's faster, search engine faster.

It's just faster.

Brill
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Fenris on June 18, 2009, 10:44:20 PM
Ditto on duplicates in MyLog.  I only see duplicates when there's a time-gap between flights.  Looks okay to me.

Looking at Allocator's log extract, it seems that the two aircraft that are listed twice are first on the outward and then on the return legs of their routes, so they are probably legit 'dupes'. Less sure about the first 4 entries, the second pair looks similar but one route missing, and the first pair has too little information to work out what's happening.

I suspect it is useful to know that you've seen something twice, even if the times are not *that* far apart.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Typhoon on June 18, 2009, 10:47:06 PM
   4CA0BC  EIN6R3   LROP-EIDW       EI-CPC  A321  Aer Lingus           2009/06/18 23:11:39 
   4CA0BC  EIN6R3   LROP-EIDW       EI-CPC  A321  Aer Lingus           2009/06/18 23:13:21 
   4CA224                                         EI-DCH  B738  Ryanair              2009/06/18 23:13:21 
   4CA224  RYR15N   EGNM-EIDW       EI-DCH  B738  Ryanair              2009/06/18 23:10:31 
   4CA64B                                        EI-DYI  B738  Ryanair              2009/06/18 23:14:11 
   4CA64B  RYR6638  EDAC-EGPH       EI-DYI  B738  Ryanair              2009/06/18 23:10:31 
   4CA737                                         EI-EBN  B738  Ryanair              2009/06/18 23:36:21 
   4CA73C  RYR5951  EGHH-EGPK       EI-EBT  B738  Ryanair              2009/06/18 23:10:31 
   4CA73C  RYR5951  EGHH-EGPK       EI-EBT  B738  Ryanair              2009/06/18 23:13:21 
   400A33  EXS014W  EGNT-EGNX       G-CELA  B733  Jet2 (Channel Exp... 2009/06/18 23:25:34 
   400B45  EXS748   LEPA-EGNH       G-CELJ  B733  Jet2 (Channel Exp... 2009/06/18 23:13:35 
   400E39  EXS12A   EGPH-EGNX       G-CELO  B733  Jet2 (Channel Exp... 2009/06/18 23:23:12 
   400E39  EXS12A   EGPH-EGNX       G-CELO  B733  Jet2 (Channel Exp... 2009/06/18 23:24:27 
   400A12                                        G-CELY  B733  Jet2 (Channel Exp... 2009/06/18 23:23:40 
   400A12  EXS001C  EGAA-EGNX      G-CELY  B733  Jet2 (Channel Exp... 2009/06/18 23:14:08 
   405B66  EZY6846  LPFR-EGPF         G-EZDM  A319  EasyJet Airline      2009/06/18 23:19:20 
   405B66  EZY6846  LPFR-EGPF         G-EZDM  A319  EasyJet Airline      2009/06/18 23:24:50 
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: freqhopping on June 18, 2009, 10:58:56 PM
Full screen back to normal works just fine for me.  It's blank for a split second then everything loads.   

This is on my new Dell Studio with Vista Home Premium 64-bit, 4GB ram. dual core.

I'm not getting any KC-135 flight IDs though.  I still need to verify with an SBS user as to whether or not they even have a flight ID.


1915-  Seeing my first flight ID for a Pittsburgh based KC-135,  STEEL01. 
Now to get a C-5...

Seeing at least one flight ID for an FBI Cessna now too.
Seems like I'm seeing a lot more flight IDs in general.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: solarix on June 18, 2009, 11:06:51 PM
Possible bug: This does not seem to be showing * for new aircraft in the My Log Report. Only ones that display the * are the unknowns listed at the top of the report. I reset the database and still does the same thing.

Another bug: Menus stop responding after a while. ~20 mins or so.

This is the menu as it should be
(http://www.solarix.net/images/goodmenu.jpg)

Here is what the menu looks like after trying to open items. It highlights but does not open.
(http://www.solarix.net/images/badmenu.jpg)

I am using Windows 7 x64 and also had this menu bug with Vista x64 SP1 too.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: AirNav Development on June 18, 2009, 11:11:55 PM
This is the real beta testing!
Many things have changed in the software programming core.
We want to collect as many data as possible to proceed with final corrections. Pls keep sending the reports. We will only start doing corrections after 24/48 hours.

The VOR problem will have a correction in a few minutes.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: eggplant on June 18, 2009, 11:32:24 PM
Map settings, map colours, alerts aren't saved after a restart of the s/w, as per v2.0. Worst of all no ↑↓ arrows.....
Windows Vista Home Premium. Intel Quad at 2.4 Ghz, 4 gb Ram
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: simone.simone on June 18, 2009, 11:33:13 PM
Problem with the Custom Legend List:

If I insert a point with the syntax: ABC, 12, 12 --> the point is correctly shown
But if I wrote, as into the example: ABC, 12.1234, 12.1234 --> no point shown
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: DazrahT on June 18, 2009, 11:41:49 PM
Problem with the Custom Legend List:

If I insert a point with the syntax: ABC, 12, 12 --> the point is correctly shown
But if I wrote, as into the example: ABC, 12.1234, 12.1234 --> no point shown

Well I've put some in so far, and mine work fine.  Try inserting them without a space next to the comma.

Here are mine, so far
Rugby,52.379919,-1.251813
Leamington Spa,52.284376,-1.538916
Kenilworth,52.341657,-1.572477
Balsall Common,52.390917,-1.650249
Nuneaton,52.522898,-1.467519
Water Orton,52.518248,-1.741503
Birmingham,52.477173,-1.899006
Sutton Park,52.573406,-1.843845
Banbury,52.059594,-1.335064
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: AirNav Development on June 18, 2009, 11:43:08 PM
Simone: good point. That is happening because your decimal character in Windows is not the .
We will have to change this one to avoid problems with some users.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: eggplant on June 18, 2009, 11:49:33 PM
Airnav - you have got one helluva job colllating the comments made !!  I'd like to commend you and your team for the work you have undoubtedly put into, and are continuing to do so to make this a success.  It seems it's not often you get a "pat on the back" - but there's one from me !

Ta
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: AirNav Development on June 18, 2009, 11:49:47 PM
VOR problem / corrupted file:
For those users that already installed V3.0 download the file below and unzip it to your RadarBox\data folder  (overwriting the existing file).
http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/anrb/ANRB300Beta/L008.zip

For all the others we have changed the .exe installer already to have the latest file inside.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: AirNav Development on June 18, 2009, 11:51:17 PM
"Airnav - you have got one helluva job colllating the comments made !!  I'd like to commend you and your team for the work you have undoubtedly put into, and are continuing to do so to make this a success.  It seems it's not often you get a "pat on the back" - but there's one from me !"

Eggplant: thanks a lot for this very nice comment. You can't imagine the hard work to get this application to be so robust. Now let's work on all the complaints we have received so we can release V3.0 (no beta) in 2 weeks. Keep the reports coming.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Antonio Teixeira on June 18, 2009, 11:56:01 PM
VOR problem / corrupted file:
For those users that already installed V3.0 download the file below and unzip it to your RadarBox\data folder  (overwriting the existing file).
http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/anrb/ANRB300Beta/L008.zip

For all the others we have changed the .exe installer already to have the latest file inside.

Problem solved here, many thanks AirNav, keep up the excellent job.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: AirNav Development on June 19, 2009, 12:01:22 AM
It's good to know the VOR problem is now solved.
BTW the worldwide air navigation data present in V3.0 (Airport, Runway, VOR, NDB, FIX, Airway) contains the latest official AIRAC cycle, details below:

AIRAC cycle    : 0906
Valid (from/to): 04/JUN/2009 - 01/JUL/2009

For those who don't know what an AIRAC cycle is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeronautical_Information_Publication

Having this data enables us to do screen shots like the one below.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: simone.simone on June 19, 2009, 12:03:27 AM
Simone: good point. That is happening because your decimal character in Windows is not the .
We will have to change this one to avoid problems with some users.

Thanks, I do confirm. Changing from "," to "." into the control panel it works fine!
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: freqhopping on June 19, 2009, 12:34:02 AM
The airline/operators I've entered via Database Explorer are not showing up in MyLog.  The new MyLog entries are what they would be if downloaded from the internet.  It is currently set to NOT Auto-Populate Aircraft Data.

Example:  I've changed all the USA- Air Force entries to USAF and sometimes added the unit too.  Aircraft I've logged since the change still show USAF in DB EX, but are showing USA - Air Force or United States Air Force in MyLog.  Populate will not change this.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: RodBearden on June 19, 2009, 12:45:09 AM
This is the correct behaviour - MyLog is an historical record showing how things were when the record was created. Changing data through Database Explorer changes the data that will be used for future records.

For example, if an aircraft changes ownership, you wouldn't want old records showing the new owner - you would want them showing the owner at the time, but changing the owner in database explorer means that future records will show the current owner.

Hope that helps

Rod
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: freqhopping on June 19, 2009, 12:54:21 AM
This is the correct behaviour - MyLog is an historical record showing how things were when the record was created. Changing data through Database Explorer changes the data that will be used for future records.


The data has existed for months in the way I've entered it and has been displaying as such in MyLog up until I updated to v3 today.   Now some, not all, of the Air Force entries are changing in MyLog when I receive them again.


This entry has existed for months with USAF as the operator.  In MyLog and on the main screen it would say USAF.  Now on the main screen and MyLog it says United States Air Force despite the DB still saying USAF.

At 2146 it's now doing the same thing, showing USA - Air Force, for an A-10 that I manually entered the entire entry from the start because it's not in any of the online databases.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: JRS98 on June 19, 2009, 12:59:27 AM
freqhopping,

You probably need to unclick AUTO-POPULATE in the preferences. Coast Guard 1702 turned into a Slovak Air Force jet for me. You will get a lot of bad info if you let it auto-populate.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: JRS98 on June 19, 2009, 01:13:14 AM
It looks like the alerts aren't working properly when sent to my email. No aircraft info or altitude just the time and hex code.
Title: No Range Alerts
Post by: Falcon on June 19, 2009, 01:56:44 AM
Hello,

I am not getting any alerts using the range settings. I have it set the same way I did in version two.

Anyone else experience this yet?

Edit: Just went back to the original version two and immediately regained range alerts so there is an issue there.

Thanks
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: jmhayes on June 19, 2009, 02:10:52 AM
... they are probably legit 'dupes' ...
Any chance of AirNav telling us what they are using for an algorithm here?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Markus48 on June 19, 2009, 02:19:44 AM
 Beta 3.0 started off great here on home Vista but then My Log/Reporter
stopped working at all.
I liked getting more US Navy aircraft ID's so that was a  plus!
Autopopulate started off great then lost My Log/reporter..
Needs work but I think you are headed in right direction.

Mark
 
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: prbflight on June 19, 2009, 02:27:47 AM
Finally!  I just got home from work and I've installed 3.0 beta.  It's been 2 years that I've waited and finally...finally I can e-mail reports.  Great Job AirNav!  I am now off to email a report to myself again!

[email protected]
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Falcon on June 19, 2009, 02:35:37 AM
Finally!  I just got home from work and I've installed 3.0 beta.  It's been 2 years that I've waited and finally...finally I can e-mail reports.  Great Job AirNav!  I am now off to email a report to myself again!

[email protected]
Hi Paul,

I am another happy camper from the West Coast who had the same problem if you remember :-)

Regards,
Falcon
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: prbflight on June 19, 2009, 02:48:10 AM
Finally!  I just got home from work and I've installed 3.0 beta.  It's been 2 years that I've waited and finally...finally I can e-mail reports.  Great Job AirNav!  I am now off to email a report to myself again!

[email protected]
Hi Paul,

I am another happy camper from the West Coast who had the same problem if you remember :-)

Regards,
Falcon

Oh yes I remember your dilemma was the same as mine.  There were a number of us Canuks that couldn't use this feature.  I've just tried the e-mail function 4 times to make sure I wasn't dreaming.  I celebrated by having a beer.  Now if we can work on a SMS feature for the next release.

[email protected] 
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: callan on June 19, 2009, 03:27:47 AM
Hi

tried installing both the full version and upgrade and like other forum members i can't get either to work and again get this message.

 ANRB.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close.  We are sorry for the inconvenience.

Running windows XP service pack 3

But thanks Airnav for your hard work on improving an already brilliant product.

Callan
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: DaveReid on June 19, 2009, 06:21:06 AM
... they are probably legit 'dupes' ...
Any chance of AirNav telling us what they are using for an algorithm here?

I don't know what algorithm is either, but a good rule-of-thumb which I've been using in my own flights database for the past 3 years is to trigger a new flight record if either there is a break of more than X minutes (I use 15) in the reception of signals from the same aircraft, or (obviously) a change in FlightID.

It might be worth making the former a configurable RadarBox parameter as it may be depend on a user's location, particularly proximity to an airfield.  No rule will be foolproof, but this one works pretty well for me.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: jonjorobb on June 19, 2009, 06:23:08 AM
Ive just installed the VOR Fix. POL is back, But the BEE/BMA E145 Flight ID's are not.

They were there before I installed this update

Jonjo

EDIT: Some are appearing now, but ive got a significant amount with no Flight ID (BEE, EZE, BMA etc)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: abrad41 on June 19, 2009, 06:26:16 AM
AirNav

Quote
tried installing both the full version and upgrade and like other forum members i can't get either to work and again get this message.

 ANRB.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close.  We are sorry for the inconvenience.

Running windows XP service pack 3

Same Here
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: abrad41 on June 19, 2009, 06:44:08 AM
It seems everyone with the above problem is Running

Windows XP with SP3
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: gbnll on June 19, 2009, 06:49:24 AM
Don't know why Ive had this problem but I cant see any hardware flights anymore, just network flights.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: bearcat on June 19, 2009, 06:53:39 AM
Hi

I have done the full install and everythig generally working well for me, VORs now ok, full screen and return work ok.

I am having some duplicate records in MyLog reporter after only a few minutes of running and they are the same flight number with a minute or two difference in time.

How do you enter custom labels? I have gone Maps > Custom label but then nothing, any help appreciated

Running XP home Sp3

Thanks for a good job

Stewart
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: bearcat on June 19, 2009, 06:57:14 AM
Forgot to  add I'm picking up some Flybe. BMI Regional, Eastflight etc and useing XP Home Sp2

Stewart
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: abrad41 on June 19, 2009, 06:59:00 AM
Stewart

Are running Sp3 or Sp2
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Minou on June 19, 2009, 07:00:46 AM
Hi

I have done the full install and everythig generally working well for me, VORs now ok, full screen and return work ok.

I am having some duplicate records in MyLog reporter after only a few minutes of running and they are the same flight number with a minute or two difference in time.

How do you enter custom labels? I have gone Maps > Custom label but then nothing, any help appreciated

Running XP home Sp3

Thanks for a good job

Stewart

Try Preferences>Radarbox and fill in the custom legend list details
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Cumulus on June 19, 2009, 07:03:53 AM
Hi

tried installing both the full version and upgrade and like other forum members i can't get either to work and again get this message.

 ANRB.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close.  We are sorry for the inconvenience.

Running windows XP service pack 3

Same here. Error report emailed to support.

Peter
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: bearcat on June 19, 2009, 07:07:13 AM
Sorry getting ready for work running SP3. Just to confirm flights ids are showing since installing the VOR update

Stewart


Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: bearcat on June 19, 2009, 07:09:00 AM
Thanks Boris found it now

Regards

Stewart
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Levery on June 19, 2009, 07:19:16 AM
Thanks for the update airnav, installed ok on my laptop with vista OS, but no luck on my home pc with Windows XP with SP3, also noticed that Aruba (TNCA) is still missing and  that Statia (TNCE) has no run way anymore, it was there before! I think that for future releases it would be a great option to allow the user to draw or just have a way to edit this. Hope to see a fix soon for that XP problem............................


Larry
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Levery on June 19, 2009, 07:26:11 AM
Thanks for the update airnav, installed ok on my laptop with vista OS, but no luck on my home pc with Windows XP with SP3, also noticed that Aruba (TNCA) is still missing and  that Statia (TNCE) has no run way anymore, it was there before! I think that for future releases it would be a great option to allow the user to draw or just have a way to edit this. Hope to see a fix soon for that XP problem............................forgot also tried that VOR update but still no joy:(


Larry
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: nortonbeak on June 19, 2009, 07:31:31 AM
On my laptop running Windows XP SP3 I too get the "anrb.exe has encountered a problem" error message.

Unfortunately, I took the precaution of renaming the existing Radarbox folder to "Old Radarbox" and when I try to run that version I get the same error message.

Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: radarspotter10 on June 19, 2009, 07:34:56 AM
hi team
thank you TEAM AIRNAV for a brilliant job, love it and the full screen and email is great thanks.
from pat
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: AirNav Development on June 19, 2009, 07:53:55 AM
Hello guys. We are reading each post in detail. Our programming team is already trying to find out what might be wrong with Windows SP3. We want to have a new exe available until 22 PM European Central Time today. Stby for further news and keep sending your reports.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: snowman on June 19, 2009, 08:09:15 AM
Updated to V3.0 beta running Vista Ultimate 64bit and have a couple of questions

1) Has the driver issue been fixed or do I still have to hit F8 on start-up
2) What do I have to do to display up/down arrows as I am still seeing +/-

Otherwise seems to be working fine
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: malc41 on June 19, 2009, 08:11:24 AM
Great job Airnav

Seems to be working fine here, with the last update
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: titigti on June 19, 2009, 08:17:42 AM
Hello,

thanks for doing all the good work to get version 3 online!

I life in the Netherlands  9 miles from ehrd 21 from eham.
So i have a lot of traffic during the  day. more then 3000 planes.


But when i turn on fix, the system get to slow to work with. To much fix points around this area .

check my site to see the area.
fix is now turned off, only airports are on.


www.titigti.com/radar/

I'm using vista, with a intel duel core 2 gig.

All the other old bugs, like slow menu's seems to be ok now.


Greetings
Etienne



Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: dudbaker on June 19, 2009, 08:22:13 AM

Unfortunately, I took the precaution of renaming the existing Radarbox folder to "Old Radarbox" and when I try to run that version I get the same error message.


[/quote]

I did not rename but still cannot run old version.  No RB, at all, at the moment.

Dudley
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Fenris on June 19, 2009, 08:28:47 AM
Updated to V3.0 beta running Vista Ultimate 64bit and have a couple of questions

1) Has the driver issue been fixed or do I still have to hit F8 on start-up
2) What do I have to do to display up/down arrows as I am still seeing +/-

Otherwise seems to be working fine

If you look for a program called EasyBCD from NeoSmart you will be able to configure Vista64 not to require signed drivers, I don't have the 64 bit version but I do use EasyBCD.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Fenris on June 19, 2009, 08:31:04 AM

Unfortunately, I took the precaution of renaming the existing Radarbox folder to "Old Radarbox" and when I try to run that version I get the same error message.



I did not rename but still cannot run old version.  No RB, at all, at the moment.

Dudley
[/quote]

It's likely to be one of the new files has overwritten the old versions in a directory other than the Airnav tree, so both versions have to use that file. That'll be why v2.01 is broken now.

You could reinstall it until v3.0 gets sorted out.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: marcdeklerk on June 19, 2009, 08:40:22 AM
hi airnav, possibility to select the tracks of aircraft to be displayed even after aircraft time out? Then I can view the day's tracks that was logged.

What about adding various days in reporter? not just today and yesterday?

thanks
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: snowman on June 19, 2009, 08:52:21 AM
Updated to V3.0 beta running Vista Ultimate 64bit and have a couple of questions

1) Has the driver issue been fixed or do I still have to hit F8 on start-up
2) What do I have to do to display up/down arrows as I am still seeing +/-

Otherwise seems to be working fine

If you look for a program called EasyBCD from NeoSmart you will be able to configure Vista64 not to require signed drivers, I don't have the 64 bit version but I do use EasyBCD.

Thanks - I'll try that
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: dudbaker on June 19, 2009, 08:55:47 AM
Brian

Thanks for the tip.  Where can I find it.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 19, 2009, 09:10:19 AM
Thanks for the tip.  Where can I find it.

http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3376/3641040084_a8d37bfd14_t.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarbat/3641040084/sizes/o/)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: mjleprix on June 19, 2009, 09:26:33 AM
Hi All
Had a little go at version 3 and generally my flights increased fron 46 to around 54, seems a lot smoother. info and routes well populated,some Flybee routes etc being received Not all, so well done so far. One anomally. seem top have lost ability to filter down to flights for last ten minutes or one hour.
Mike P
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: afo47 on June 19, 2009, 09:40:10 AM
all seemes to be ok here on XP sp3 ... no problem
But why only MSG 3 on port 30003 ?
and now on this port also 5mn delayed like port 7879 !!
really bad and will continue to use sbs1 for tracking all types of
messages.
unpossible to use very nice add-ons sbs programs with anrb.
JLF
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: nortonbeak on June 19, 2009, 09:45:09 AM
I deleted the RadarBox folders and ran RegSeeker to tidy up the registry. Downloaded RadarBox V2. Restarted the laptop, ran the install of V2 and have got the original RadarBox software going again.

Hurrah!
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: sterigia on June 19, 2009, 10:05:38 AM
i have turned off fixes ndb vor small airports and routes to speed it up a bit
abnd all geographical detail too
definetely faster now
frank
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: John Racars on June 19, 2009, 10:17:39 AM
Hi Support,

My compliments with the great job you have done with your team of developers and testers.

I am verry under the impression of all the new improvements and new items you have brought to us today with this new version 3.0 Beta.

Superfluous to say that all is working verry smooth here with me.

Thank you verry much for this new version!
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EK01 on June 19, 2009, 10:25:07 AM
Hi guys,

I have uninstalled version 2 and reinstalled the full version 3. Flybe flights are still not showing their flight id's for dash 8's althought the Loganair SF 340's details are now showing along with route information. Any ideas ?

Also my home location appears to have moved. It's not showing the correct position according to what I had entered in Preferences.

Help appreciated.

Edit: Home Location now ok. Used Google Earth to reset. However in version 2 you used to be able to alter the size of the grid by moving your cursor down the side of it until 2 horizontal bars appeared and then moving it over to give a smaller grid and hence a bigger map horizontally. This does not seem to be there in version 3. Also having a closer look it would appear thet some flybes are giving full details and some are not. Perhaps Tarbat would know. Do all flybe dash 8 give flight id's.

Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 19, 2009, 10:28:59 AM
Flybe flights are still not showing their flight id's for dash 8's althought the Loganair SF 340's details are now showing along with route information. Any ideas ?

Flight IDs can take some time to appear.  On these non-ADS/B aircraft, a ModeS ground station has to request the information before you see it in Radarbox.  So, if there's no ground station nearby, you have to wait until the aircraft is high enough before a more distant ModeS ground station requests this squitter.  I think!!

During beta testing I made this observation:
Comparing Radarbox FlightIDs today against the FlightIDs seen by my friend's SBS-1, RB missed 20 FlightIDs.  Of course, this might well be caused by reception conditions being different in my friend's location.  In fact, there were 14 aircraft where RB detected a FlightID where the SBS-1 didn't.


Also my home location appears to have moved. It's not showing the correct position according to what I had entered in Preferences.

Check that you've ticked the box in Preferences to Draw Home Location Legend.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Roadrunner on June 19, 2009, 10:36:21 AM
Have run v3. Beta on both an XP SP3 desktop PC and on a Vista Laptop and working very well on both. I did have a problem on the XP machine first off when I tried an upgrade rather than a full install. When I did a delete of old program on the XP and ran the full install all worked right away.

Thanks Airnav
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: DaveReid on June 19, 2009, 10:59:24 AM
Flight IDs can take some time to appear.  On these non-ADS/B aircraft, a ModeS ground station has to request the information before you see it in Radarbox.  So, if there's no ground station nearby, you have to wait until the aircraft is high enough before a more distant ModeS ground station requests this squitter.  I think!!

Bear in mind, though, that some non-ADS-B aircraft (such as USAF C-17s) still transmit the Aircraft Identification Squitter containing the callsign at 5-second intervals whether or not they are being interrogated by a ground station.

In SBS-land, these get shown by a solid circle on the display, meaning "we are receiving ADS-B messages from the plane, but that they do not contain latitude and longitude data".  Both RadarBox and BaseStation will display the callsign as they do for any other ADS-B aircraft, except that obviously no lat/lon will be shown.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EK01 on June 19, 2009, 11:12:43 AM
Hi guys,

I have uninstalled version 2 and reinstalled the full version 3. Flybe flights are still not showing their flight id's for dash 8's althought the Loganair SF 340's details are now showing along with route information. Any ideas ?

Also my home location appears to have moved. It's not showing the correct position according to what I had entered in Preferences.

Help appreciated.

Edit: Home Location now ok. Used Google Earth to reset. However in version 2 you used to be able to alter the size of the grid by moving your cursor down the side of it until 2 horizontal bars appeared and then moving it over to give a smaller grid and hence a bigger map horizontally. This does not seem to be there in version 3. Also having a closer look it would appear thet some flybes are giving full details and some are not. Perhaps Tarbat would know. Do all flybe dash 8 give flight id's.


Thanks guys for all your help. I will wait and see what develops re flybe. None on at the moment. Typical. One other small problem when I switch the RB off and switch on again, the initial map which comes up is of the world and not the one of my local area/home location. Any idea how to get the program to default to my home map. Did not have this problem before.

Cheers.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 19, 2009, 11:28:19 AM
One other small problem when I switch the RB off and switch on again, the initial map which comes up is of the world and not the one of my local area/home location. Any idea how to get the program to default to my home map. Did not have this problem before.

On the menu, MAP - OPEN/SAVE - SAVE MAP AS, and save as Default.ml3
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: LiveATC on June 19, 2009, 11:38:53 AM
Tell, how it it is possible to correct the name waypoints it is not visible, here an example

(http://aviation.users.photofile.ru/photo/aviation/115395788/128098944.jpg)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: radarphil on June 19, 2009, 11:41:13 AM
just downloaded v3.0 i am getting error message has encountered anrb has encountered a problem and will close. the error message is appname anrb.exe app/ver0.0.0.0 modname advap32.dll mod ver 5.1.26005755 offset 0000eb75
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EK01 on June 19, 2009, 12:06:41 PM
Thanks Tarbat. Home location map now appearing on start up.

Cheers
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: John Racars on June 19, 2009, 12:09:02 PM
Flybe flights are still not showing their flight id's for dash 8's

Hi, they appear on my interface correctly now like the KLM-Embraers and Old Generation 'KLM B-737's as well!
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: snowman on June 19, 2009, 12:22:07 PM
Can anyone tell me how to get the up/down arrows - I'm only seeing the +/-

Thanks
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 19, 2009, 12:26:53 PM
Can anyone tell me how to get the up/down arrows - I'm only seeing the +/-

Without messing around with your Window fonts (http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=2864), +/- is the only option.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: snowman on June 19, 2009, 12:30:26 PM
Can anyone tell me how to get the up/down arrows - I'm only seeing the +/-

Without messing around with your Window fonts (http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=2864), +/- is the only option.

I see - I must have mis-understood, I thought this was one of the enhancements in the beta release !
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: vruma on June 19, 2009, 12:37:23 PM
Hi snowman,

have a try on the fonts available in this thread: http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=2864.0

However, using the type A font the up arrow is shown only. Using the type B font you get both, up & down arrows, but unfortunately all hyphen characters are shown as a down arrow too, as this character is being used in the radarbox software to indicate a descend rather than the real minus character. It's not an error of the font!
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: viking9 on June 19, 2009, 12:41:33 PM
My full screen to interface and screen transitions seem to have fixed themselves

On my laptop at 1024 x 768 the Quick List and Advanced tabs do not appear.

Tom
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EK01 on June 19, 2009, 12:55:10 PM
Can anyone confirm if 'Lakey' is in the correct position. I used to be able to cover all the Scottish Central Belt airports and position 'Lakey' on one map view on the old version but with version 3 it's proving to be a bit of a problem trying to position the map correctly with the names of the fixes showing. I've tried various zooming in and out without much success. It looks as if 'Lakey' is positioned too far south now.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Manuel Mendes on June 19, 2009, 01:05:18 PM
Hi.
There is no Taiwan flag displayed.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 19, 2009, 01:07:09 PM
On my laptop at 1024 x 768 the Quick List and Advanced tabs do not appear.

Must be PC specific.  Tested at 1024x600 on my laptop:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3356/3641342564_dc7cbab3bc_m.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarbat/3641342564/sizes/o/)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 19, 2009, 01:09:31 PM
There is no Taiwan flag displayed.

What entries do you have for Taiwan in the D008.dat file (in your ANRB/Data folder).

Mine look like this:
Taiwan_Mil,Taiwan Mil_3701,100010011001000101100000
TW,Taiwan,10001001100100----------
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EGNXR on June 19, 2009, 01:27:18 PM
It appears the Bermudan and Cayman flags have done a runner as well

Edit - just copied my old D008 form V2.0 into V3.0 Data and everythings good again:-)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 19, 2009, 01:35:16 PM
It appears the Bermudan and Cayman flags have done a runner as well

Check your D008.dat file.  Did you do a new install, or an update?  I'm guessing that with a new install, you'll get the default D008.dat file, without all my customisation for other countries.

BM,Bermuda_1,01000000000000001-------
BM,Bermuda_10,010000100100100011011---
BM,Bermuda_11,0100001001001000111-----
BM,Bermuda_12,0100001001001001000-----
BM,Bermuda_13,01000011101111101000----
BM,Bermuda_2,01000000000000010-------
BM,Bermuda_3,010000000000000110------
BM,Bermuda_4,0100001001000000--------
BM,Bermuda_5,0100001001000001000-----
BM,Bermuda_6,01000010010000010010----
BM,Bermuda_7,0100001001000001001100--
BM,Bermuda_8,01000010010000100011----
BM,Bermuda_9,010000100100001001------

AI,Cayman Islands_1,010000000000000001------
AI,Cayman Islands_2,01000000000000001000000-
AI,Cayman Islands_3,01000000000000001100----
AI,Cayman Islands_4,010000000000000011010---
AI,Cayman Islands_5,010000000000000111------
AI,Cayman Islands_6,0100001001000001001101--
AI,Cayman Islands_7,010000100100000100111---
AI,Cayman Islands_8,010000100100000101------
AI,Cayman Islands_9,0100001001000001100-----
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: vruma on June 19, 2009, 01:36:14 PM
Hi tarbat,

I wonder how you managed to have the toolbar at the position where they are. Mine look like this

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3361/3640573767_2d1ebf864a.jpg)

and I would like to move them to an other position. Any idea how this is done? They only changed position in the beta 3.

BTW: I haven't found out how the the "custom legend" works. Anyone know how it's done?

Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EK01 on June 19, 2009, 01:37:11 PM
There are so many fixes now showing they are tending to clash with aircraft movements. Without turning them off as they are useful to have especially when listening in at the same time do any of our 5 star members have a particular colour they like to use for them.


Position of Lakey now fixed. Somehow the Map projection was set wrong.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 19, 2009, 01:45:19 PM
There are so many fixes now showing they are tending to clash with aircraft movements. Without turning them off as they are useful to have especially when listening in at the same time do any of our 5 star members have a particular colour they like to use for them.

I've turned them off :(   I was using R=128,G=128,B=128, but as you say, there's just to many of them now.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2422/3641415340_3dbca53e6a_t.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarbat/3641415340/sizes/o/)

Would like to see an option to turn on/off different types of fixes.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EK01 on June 19, 2009, 01:54:46 PM
Tarbat,

Just posted that very suggestion on the future suggestions/requests thread.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Levery on June 19, 2009, 02:12:05 PM
Still not recieving mode-s from EMB-110P1 Bandeirante. Any ideas??
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: gbnll on June 19, 2009, 02:13:20 PM
Yeah they really dont need to put the runway intersections like FF27R or the D102# etc waypoints only the ones that have proper names.  
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 19, 2009, 02:13:58 PM
Still not recieving mode-s from EMB-110P1 Bandeirante. Any ideas??

Maybe the aircraft isn't ModeS equipped?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: viking9 on June 19, 2009, 02:25:41 PM
Another bug.

I cannot get the split cursor that allows the interface to be made wider or narrower. This is on both XP and Vista PCs.

Tom
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Levery on June 19, 2009, 02:27:13 PM
Well i here the controler give them a sqk code, and they sqk ident, and he tells them "radar contact" with position and crossing alt. Just seems odd, i see many other types of general aviation types, but this one is more difficult.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Mark07 on June 19, 2009, 02:28:41 PM
I am getting this error message also.  Has there been a fix yet??

Thanks,
Mark

Hi

I have tried both the upgrade an full download.  When I try to run the programme I get this message.  

ANRB.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close.  We are sorry for the inconvenience.

Dudley

Same problem here, I get the same message, neither the update or full program works, tried it on two different machines, both XP Pro SP3.

Not a great start.


Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Levery on June 19, 2009, 02:30:56 PM
Has anyone checked out this feature that was mentioned in the Official full list of suggestions/improvements:
- Possibility of writing custom labels on map;

Can't seem to find this one......
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 19, 2009, 02:31:47 PM
Has anyone checked out this feature that was mentioned in the Official full list of suggestions/improvements:
- Possibility of writing custom labels on map;

Can't seem to find this one......

Look in Preferences
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: DaveReid on June 19, 2009, 02:36:45 PM
Well i here the controler give them a sqk code, and they sqk ident, and he tells them "radar contact" with position and crossing alt.

That indicates that they have a Mode A/C transponder, but not necessarily Mode S.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EGNXR on June 19, 2009, 02:37:05 PM
Another bug.

I cannot get the split cursor that allows the interface to be made wider or narrower. This is on both XP and Vista PCs.

Tom

Hi Viking9,

If you click on the very edge of the menu it allows you to drag, it just does not show you the icon your used to.

Cheers John
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Levery on June 19, 2009, 02:39:32 PM
Cool thanks!
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: viking9 on June 19, 2009, 02:40:52 PM
Cheers John, that works on my PC but not on my laptop. So it's still a bug as it worked before :o))

Tom
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: vruma on June 19, 2009, 02:48:46 PM
Despite setting a custom legend in the format as the example sates, enabling the custom legend in preferences and in the map menu, i can't see it. Has anyone succesfully set it so it does really appear?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Levery on June 19, 2009, 02:55:39 PM
Now that you mention it will there ever be an ability to recieve Mode A/C transponders, or is it because Mode-S is more widely used?    So that we can recieve those also....
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: jmhayes on June 19, 2009, 02:58:34 PM
... they are probably legit 'dupes' ...
Any chance of AirNav telling us what they are using for an algorithm here?

I don't know what algorithm is either, but a good rule-of-thumb ...
Oh sure, I can think of ways to do this too ... I'd just like to know what AirNav is doing.  Since they aren't generating STA messages (in fact, nothing other than "MSG,1" and "MSG,3"), on port 30003 it would be nice to know what they are doing.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: radarspotter10 on June 19, 2009, 03:10:59 PM



If you click on the very edge of the menu it allows you to drag, it just does not show you the icon your used to.

Cheers John
[/quote]
hi john
thanks john was looking for that, working on all my computers OK.
from pat
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Manuel Mendes on June 19, 2009, 03:23:52 PM
Another thing: it would be great to select the aircraft by clicking on it and not when the mouse passes over it.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: bailey_uk on June 19, 2009, 03:40:19 PM
Can anyone confirm if 'Lakey' is in the correct position. I used to be able to cover all the Scottish Central Belt airports and position 'Lakey' on one map view on the old version but with version 3 it's proving to be a bit of a problem trying to position the map correctly with the names of the fixes showing. I've tried various zooming in and out without much success. It looks as if 'Lakey' is positioned too far south now.

Hi, Lakey is my local Waypoint!

One way to make sure if it is in the right position is to add this attached .out file which I made personally last week, which is of Lake Windermere.

'Lakey' is about 2 Nautical Miles south of the lake, and slightly to the left. Also, its  in a direct line between DCS VOR, and MCT VOR.

Hope this helps,

James
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: RodBearden on June 19, 2009, 03:54:59 PM
Vruma - yes, custom legends work fine for me. I seem to remember in another thread (or maybe this one) that there may be a problem with international settings and decimal indicators. Changing settings there may help.

Can't find the thread/post at the moment, though.

Rod
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: bailey_uk on June 19, 2009, 03:56:50 PM
I seem to remember in another thread (or maybe this one) that there may be a problem with international settings and decimal indicators. Changing settings there may help.

Can't find the thread/post at the moment, though.

Rod

Make sure that is is a decimal and not a comma?

James
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: vruma on June 19, 2009, 04:01:36 PM
Vruma - yes, custom legends work fine for me. I seem to remember in another thread (or maybe this one) that there may be a problem with international settings and decimal indicators. Changing settings there may help.

Can't find the thread/post at the moment, though.

Rod

Rod & James, thank you both. Changing the regional settings of windows from a comma to a decimal did the trick. Now its working.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: bailey_uk on June 19, 2009, 04:11:43 PM
I seem to remember in another thread (or maybe this one)
Can't find the thread/post at the moment, though.

Rod

I struggled to find it also Rod! Post #67 of this thread ;-)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: FRED on June 19, 2009, 04:12:39 PM
Hi, VISTA 64 strikes again. I have located and tried to input the drivers but I get the same digital signature required prompt. Can anyone help please !!!!
Thank you.

Aaron
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EGNXR on June 19, 2009, 04:17:50 PM
Hi Airnav,

Noticed a marked increase in recieved flights today (Average in myflights up from 60 -70 to 70-90) and I'm about 300 on up one what I would normally have recieved by this hour.

Two small bugs you may want to look at

1. We now have EGCN Doncaster Robin Hood Airport (Thank you) but no airfield label
and you have removed Sheffield City Airport but left the label. (screenshot 1)

2. When going from full screen and pressing esc to go back, the map disapears. (screenshot 2)

Cheers John

Edit - Had to reboot RB to get the map back if this helps
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: snowman on June 19, 2009, 04:37:13 PM
Can anyone tell me how to get the up/down arrows - I'm only seeing the +/-

Without messing around with your Window fonts (http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=2864), +/- is the only option.

I see - I must have mis-understood, I thought this was one of the enhancements in the beta release !

- Duplicates in the Reporter bug corrected;
- Remember of Last Color Used;
- Up/Down arrows to show Vertical Rate on maps;

At the risk of being boring it does say in the list of features in this beta release that up/down arrows will be displayed, as shown in the above copied from the announcement.

Is this just done via the fonts as previously stated (with the associated route problem with the hyphen) or is it is a software fix - in which case it's not working !
Title: fail to update or reinstall v3
Post by: GrimReaperuk on June 19, 2009, 04:37:41 PM
Unable to run upgrade or full reinstall of V3, no error messages.  Running Laptop Windows XP SP3.

Regards

G
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: vruma on June 19, 2009, 04:49:27 PM
@snowman

as this message indicates - http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=2855.msg25337#msg25337 - I'm afraid that there are no up/down arrows in the Beta 3. (Looks like an unreviewed "copy & paste" transaction from the old v 2.10 announcement might be the reason this info made it into the new release message).
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: snowman on June 19, 2009, 04:58:51 PM
@snowman

as this message indicates - http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=2855.msg25337#msg25337 - I'm afraid that there are no up/down arrows in the Beta 3. (Looks like an unreviewed "copy & paste" transaction from the old v 2.10 announcement might be the reason this info made it into the new release message).
Fair enough - would be nice to have it the official 3.0 release though !
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 19, 2009, 05:02:03 PM
Fair enough - would be nice to have it the official 3.0 release though !

I suspect Airnav are busy on more important things - like fixing the bugs!!
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Fenris on June 19, 2009, 05:07:08 PM
Hi, VISTA 64 strikes again. I have located and tried to input the drivers but I get the same digital signature required prompt. Can anyone help please !!!!

I believe that EasyBCD has the ability to turn off the Vista 64 driver signing requirement, you can download it free from NeoSmart. Google will find it for you.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Jollygreen on June 19, 2009, 05:07:54 PM
Copy from reporter in new release. Still getting duplicates, see below.

887802  6A9HA91  VTBS-EGLL       HS-TGP  B744  Thai Airways Inte... 2009/06/19 17:47:23  
   887802  THA HA91 VTBS-EGLL       HS-TGP  B744  Thai Airways Inte... 2009/06/19 17:46:12  
   887802  THA916   VTBS-EGLL       HS-TGP  B744  Thai Airways Inte... 2009/06/19 17:42:45  
   887802  THA916   VTBS-EGLL       HS-TGP  B744  Thai Airways Inte... 2009/06/19 17:45:31  
   887802  THA916   VTBS-EGLL       HS-TGP  B744  Thai Airways Inte... 2009/06/19 17:47:31  
   887802  THA916   VTBS-EGLL       HS-TGP  B744  Thai Airways Inte... 2009/06/19 17:49:42  
   887802  THA916 S VTBS-EGLL       HS-TGP  B744  Thai Airways Inte... 2009/06/19 17:45:11  
   887802  THA9HA91 VTBS-EGLL       HS-TGP  B744  Thai Airways Inte... 2009/06/19 17:47:27  
   887802  THA9HA91 VTBS-EGLL       HS-TGP  B744  Thai Airways Inte... 2009/06/19 17:47:29  
   887802  THA9HA91 VTBS-EGLL       HS-TGP  B744  Thai Airways Inte... 2009/06/19 17:48:22  

Nigel
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Fenris on June 19, 2009, 05:10:30 PM
Fair enough - would be nice to have it the official 3.0 release though !

Please not until the bugs are all squashed, the wide beta has been available less than 24 hours, I'd hope that the final release won't appear for a couple of weeks to give time to ensure it works correctly on a wide range of hardware and on at least XP with any SP and Vista with any SP. I'm sure Airnav don't want to have people moaning about bugs again for an extended period :)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: jmhayes on June 19, 2009, 05:13:19 PM
Copy from reporter in new release. Still getting duplicates, see below.

887802  6A9HA91  VTBS-EGLL       HS-TGP  B744  Thai Airways Inte... 2009/06/19 17:47:23  
   887802  THA HA91 VTBS-EGLL       HS-TGP  B744  Thai Airways Inte... 2009/06/19 17:46:12  
These aren't duplicates "per se" ... the Callsign block changed.  There are a handful of aircraft in the world that have this problem ... I have some heuristics I've developed over the years about what to do about them, but for now I'd say that's not really a bug in ANRB.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: malc41 on June 19, 2009, 05:27:12 PM
In reporter the * for new aircraft does not seem to work

Got an Irish Airtech CN-235 reg 253 for the first time today no * ?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: FRED on June 19, 2009, 05:30:01 PM
Fenris, Thanks for your help. I have done as you have said and downloaded the program, rebooted and selected the disable Vista 64 button. This did not work immediately so I have again tried to reload the drivers, but to no avail !
Do you have any other thoughts?
Thank you
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Spaice on June 19, 2009, 06:24:06 PM
Installed the full version of V3 beta, however when I try to launch the program a message box appears ¨ARNB.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close¨  I am running XP pro SP3.  I notice others are experianceing the same problem, but is there a fix?

Regards

Stephen
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: dudbaker on June 19, 2009, 06:28:14 PM
Stephen

No fix yet.  I believe we might have wait till 2200.  In the mean time have loaded this.

http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/ANRB/ANRB15Setup.exe

Not sure which version it is but it is the only one I could find.

Dudley
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Fenris on June 19, 2009, 06:28:33 PM
Fenris, Thanks for your help. I have done as you have said and downloaded the program, rebooted and selected the disable Vista 64 button. This did not work immediately so I have again tried to reload the drivers, but to no avail !
Do you have any other thoughts?
Thank you

I don't have EasyBCD in front of me to look at just now, it's only on my laptop. I believe that this has to be set and the boot manager setup saved and it should be active on a reboot. I would suggest looking at the NeoSmart forum for advice.

HTH
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 19, 2009, 06:32:10 PM
Advanced Options - Allow Unsigned Driver Installation.  Then re-boot, and install the drivers again.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Spaice on June 19, 2009, 06:36:17 PM
Thanks dudbaker, I still have v2 installed so I am able to continue using RB. Disappointed that v3 has not been tested on SP3 though, never mind it will be sorted eventually
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Fenris on June 19, 2009, 06:38:36 PM
Thanks dudbaker, I still have v2 installed so I am able to continue using RB. Disappointed that v3 has not been tested on SP3 though, never mind it will be sorted eventually

Seeing as we've had access to it for less than 24 hours, don't you think it's too soon to expect it to be perfect? You can continue to use 2.01 as well, the beta tag should tell you that it's still in development.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 19, 2009, 06:41:32 PM
Disappointed that v3 has not been tested on SP3 though, never mind it will be sorted eventually

It was beta tested on XP SP3 - I ran many versions of the closed beta on my NC10 laptop, running XP SP3.  Worked fine.  I always took the time/effort to install each beta on both my desktop and laptop.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3385/3641264741_827ae59bdf_o.jpg)

This must be something about specific XP SP3 setups on individual PCs.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Titan on June 19, 2009, 06:43:27 PM
Installed the full version of V3 beta, however when I try to launch the program a message box appears ¨ARNB.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close¨  I am running XP pro SP3.  I notice others are experianceing the same problem, but is there a fix?

Have you tried to run the app in compatibility mode. I had this problem and to get around it I right clicked onto the ARNB short cut on the desktop, clicked onto properties and then clicked onto the compatibility tab and ran it in windows 98/windows me mode . Not ideal but it worked for me.
Regards
Mark
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Spaice on June 19, 2009, 06:46:21 PM
Of course it's to soon to expect it to work perfectly so soon after being released as beta version, and I am happy to be using version 2, and that's exactly what I am doing now, I only mention that I am disappointed that it was not checked on the latest version of windows XP. I shall be waiting patiently for the inevitable fix.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 19, 2009, 06:48:55 PM
I only mention that I am disappointed that it was not checked on the latest version of windows XP.

It was tested on XP SP3 - see my previous post ;(

And I didn't need to use compatibility mode.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Spaice on June 19, 2009, 06:52:32 PM
Sorry tarbat I did not see your post until after I responded with mine, I have noted that it has been tested on SP3. No offence intended, as previously mentioned I am happy to continue using V2 until a fix is available.  I'm only jealous you know :)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: dudbaker on June 19, 2009, 07:21:09 PM
Brian

You explained on page 9 why you thought 2.01 was broken as well as as 3.0.  You suggested a reload of 2.01.  I asked where I could find a copy but did not get result. 

It took me 12 hours to find.  http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/ANRB/ANRB15Setup.exe
but not sure which version that is. 

I do not expect perfection but it is nice to have something running at last.

Dudley
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 19, 2009, 07:22:53 PM
You suggested a reload of 2.01.  I asked where I could find a copy but did not get result. 

It took me 12 hours to find http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/ANRB/ANRB15Setup.exe

Latest stable non-beta is v2.0, available on the normal support page - http://www.airnavsystems.com/radarbox/support.html

Direct link - http://www.airnavsystems.com/download/anrb/anrb20setup.exe
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: dudbaker on June 19, 2009, 07:25:38 PM
tarbat.

Thanks.  That will teach me.  I looked on the download page.

Dudley
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Bethsalem on June 19, 2009, 07:32:00 PM
Hi Airnav,

When going from full screen and pressing esc to go back, the map disapears. (screenshot 2)

Cheers John

Edit - Had to reboot RB to get the map back if this helps

Like EGNXR I'm also having the problem of going from full screen map to the map disappearing when 'esc' is clicked, and then having to reboot RB.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: RodBearden on June 19, 2009, 07:35:04 PM
I'm starting to wonder whether it is Sp3 itself that is causing the problem. I too was closed-beta-testing it and it ran (and the current V3 beta continues to run) perfectly well on my XP Sp3 machine (with all MS updates installed).

Rod
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: AirNav Support on June 19, 2009, 07:36:39 PM
All,

We have been a bit quiet but its not because we are not doing anything :) Its because we are passing the reports through.

Important notes:

1.) The issue of it not loading in certain installations is being looked act. It is NOT a XP SP3 issue.  

2.) Keep giving us more reports. Please post in this thread and do not create others
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: dudbaker on June 19, 2009, 07:41:43 PM
Air Nav

Thanks.  I now have 2.01 running thanks tarbat so I can wait.

Dudley
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Spaice on June 19, 2009, 07:48:22 PM
More on the SP3 issue, I have changed the compatability settings to run as Win98/Me and Ver3 Beta now runs, Hope that helps sort the issue.

Regards

Stephen
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: CZUL on June 19, 2009, 07:59:14 PM
So far so good. Menu speed is great. The application is responding nicely. One thing; my clock is still 1 hour behind. I'm in Montreal (-5 EST). any clues?

Vista 32-bit SP1

Thanks
Paul
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Spaice on June 19, 2009, 08:09:39 PM
Glad to report that the emailing of reports now works for me, as my ISP O2 blocked the ports and prevented this feature from working.

Well Done Airnav
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EK01 on June 19, 2009, 08:13:12 PM
Another bug.

I cannot get the split cursor that allows the interface to be made wider or narrower. This is on both XP and Vista PCs.

Tom

Hi Viking9,

If you click on the very edge of the menu it allows you to drag, it just does not show you the icon your used to.

Cheers John

Thanks for that John. I was looking for the exact same thing.

Cheers,

Ian
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: vruma on June 19, 2009, 08:15:38 PM
Airnav, as you asked for it, here are my current observations using Beta 3:

- Entries of closed maps in windows menu
After having opened and closed some maps, the windows menu shows several entries of maps (eg. 3 x "default.ml3"), even though just one map is currently opened.

- No icon to resize interface window shown

- Custom legend list
Does not work initially. Regional settings of windows must be changed (comma to decimal) in order for this feature to work (using German WinXP).

- Sluggish performance with Aviation Signs "Fix" on
Turning on Fixes, brings the application in an very unresponsive state: menus get shown with an appr. 10 sec delay, paning the map is a stutter game. I guess thats just due to the amount of data handled/available. (System used: WinXP SP3, Quadcore, 4GB)

- Error message in preference menu
When thre is no entry made in the "Station data" section of the "Home station data" tab, an error message saying "Please specify a name" is shown when exiting the preference menu with OK.

Other than that, the software runs perfectly stable with very responsive overall reaction.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: AirNav Support on June 19, 2009, 08:18:34 PM
vruma,

Thanks we are aware of those. The sluggish response with all the fixes is normal :) as there is soo many that it has trouble. A few customers and Professional customers really wanted this.

We will discuss whether there is ways to limit them internally.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EK01 on June 19, 2009, 08:20:23 PM
Can anyone confirm if 'Lakey' is in the correct position. I used to be able to cover all the Scottish Central Belt airports and position 'Lakey' on one map view on the old version but with version 3 it's proving to be a bit of a problem trying to position the map correctly with the names of the fixes showing. I've tried various zooming in and out without much success. It looks as if 'Lakey' is positioned too far south now.

Hi, Lakey is my local Waypoint!

One way to make sure if it is in the right position is to add this attached .out file which I made personally last week, which is of Lake Windermere.

'Lakey' is about 2 Nautical Miles south of the lake, and slightly to the left. Also, its  in a direct line between DCS VOR, and MCT VOR.

Hope this helps,

James

Thanks James,

Cheers,

Ian
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: malc41 on June 19, 2009, 08:23:12 PM
Is there any chance of having a list of known problems so as to stop everybody repeating the same/similiar problems.?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Spaice on June 19, 2009, 08:24:10 PM
I have noticed that in the status column that some aircraft are listed as being on the Ground, however on the map they are clearly in the air say 19000ft, I currently have 4 displayed as on the ground but aare in fact in flight.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 19, 2009, 08:25:28 PM
Is there any chance of having a list of known problems so as to stop everybody repeating the same/similiar problems.?
Agreed - maybe Ainav could revive their Flyspray bug tracking sytem.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: jmhayes on June 19, 2009, 08:29:39 PM
some aircraft are listed as being on the Ground
v4.0 feature request: make this information available to port 30003 ...
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: malc41 on June 19, 2009, 08:31:50 PM
Version 4...my head is still swimming with v3 aah
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: CowboyNut on June 19, 2009, 08:53:31 PM
nice to see V3.0  out and upgraded.
time to get my box back out ,and play with the new V3.0 beta version.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: malc41 on June 19, 2009, 08:57:57 PM
From what I have seen so far you will not be disappointed. It just gets better
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EK01 on June 19, 2009, 09:16:30 PM
When I go to 'MAP' at the top of the screen, click on it then 'Set Map To' a list of the various countries comes up but the countries I added on version 2 do not seem to be there. However when I go into C:\AirNav Systems then into AirNav Radarbox 2009 and then into the Map folder all the maps I created in version 2 are there. How do I get these maps to go into the drop down map menu in version 3 without having to individually create them all over again.

Cheers,

Ian
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: nortonbeak on June 19, 2009, 09:46:39 PM
I originally had the ANRB.exe has encountered a problem error when trying to run V3 on my Windows XP with SP3 laptop.


I tried the workaround of changing compatability to Win98/ME and found that will allow V3 to run.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: prbflight on June 19, 2009, 10:56:54 PM
I'm starting to wonder whether it is Sp3 itself that is causing the problem. I too was closed-beta-testing it and it ran (and the current V3 beta continues to run) perfectly well on my XP Sp3 machine (with all MS updates installed).

Rod

I have XP SP3 with all updates and I'm having no problems running the program. 

[email protected]
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: prbflight on June 19, 2009, 11:00:03 PM
So far so good. Menu speed is great. The application is responding nicely. One thing; my clock is still 1 hour behind. I'm in Montreal (-5 EST). any clues?

Vista 32-bit SP1

Thanks
Paul


Same with my clock.  It is one hour behind.  I'm in North Bay, Ontario (-5 EST).

[email protected]
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: prbflight on June 19, 2009, 11:08:00 PM
Is anyone else having problems not receiving alerts when an ADS-B aircraft is within the set radius of your home location?  I seem to get alerts for any other box I check but not this one.

[email protected]
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Falcon on June 19, 2009, 11:34:52 PM
Is anyone else having problems not receiving alerts when an ADS-B aircraft is within the set radius of your home location?  I seem to get alerts for any other box I check but not this one.

[email protected]
Hi Paul,

Who else do you thing would be having the same problem :-) I posted this yesterday and notified AirNav during pre-release beta testing but I haven't heard anything back about it.
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=2893.msg25868#msg25868

Whoops forgot to mention. I did receive 3 flight in range alerts today via e-mail within a radius of 100nm which doesn't make any sense as I have had about 120 ads-b aircraft in that proximity during that time. I set it out to 100nm for testing purposes. Something is definitely wrong. I'm just glad someone else has posted about it.

Regards,
Falcon
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: prbflight on June 20, 2009, 01:43:46 AM
Is anyone else having problems not receiving alerts when an ADS-B aircraft is within the set radius of your home location?  I seem to get alerts for any other box I check but not this one.

[email protected]
Hi Paul,

Who else do you thing would be having the same problem :-) I posted this yesterday and notified AirNav during pre-release beta testing but I haven't heard anything back about it.
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=2893.msg25868#msg25868

Whoops forgot to mention. I did receive 3 flight in range alerts today via e-mail within a radius of 100nm which doesn't make any sense as I have had about 120 ads-b aircraft in that proximity during that time. I set it out to 100nm for testing purposes. Something is definitely wrong. I'm just glad someone else has posted about it.

Regards,
Falcon

Hi Falcon.  I was so busy reading this thread when I got home from work last night that I missed your comment.  This problem is frustrating.  AirNav please take note.  Thanks

[email protected]
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: AirNav Development on June 20, 2009, 01:56:54 AM
We are organizing all the reported bugs and will have our main programmer correcting all of them during the following 3 days. The work you are doing is simply great and is helping us a lot. There are no beta testers than real users!

PS: we will try to have a new exe ready by Jun 25.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: prbflight on June 20, 2009, 02:24:56 AM
Thanks AirNav. 

Another minor bug I've found is in the Alert tab.  The 'execute a file' box is always ticked when I restart RadarBox.  I currently keep this box unticked as I do not use this option.  Anyone else notice this?

[email protected]
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Falcon on June 20, 2009, 02:34:13 AM
Thanks AirNav. 

Another minor bug I've found is in the Alert tab.  The 'execute a file' box is always ticked when I restart RadarBox.  I currently keep this box unticked as I do not use this option.  Anyone else notice this?

[email protected]
What do you think :-)? Just to make it official the answer is yes so that one can be added to the list.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: John Racars on June 20, 2009, 06:16:04 AM
The work you are doing is simply great and is helping us a lot. There are no beta testers than real users!

Hi Support,

I thougt so! The problem I found is hopefully not so big that this can be solved with the release of a new .exe as well.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: John Racars on June 20, 2009, 07:26:41 AM
Hi Support and All,

I just made my SQL-report of yesterday flightmovements in my area of reception. I did the same I always did before installing version 3.0 Beta.

The results are to cry so bad. If you like to see the report, please let me know and I will sent it to you. When anlyzing this report maybe it gives you possibly an impression of the problems.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Roadrunner on June 20, 2009, 07:38:06 AM
Thanks dudbaker, I still have v2 installed so I am able to continue using RB. Disappointed that v3 has not been tested on SP3 though, never mind it will be sorted eventually

I have an XP with SP3 and V3 beta is running OK so it is not affecting every XP/SP3 set-up :-(
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EMA on June 20, 2009, 07:38:15 AM
Something I mentioned during the closed beta still appears to be happening to me.

If I leave the program running maximised for a while when I return to it I notice very few aircraft are on the map in my location, if I then zoom in and out on the map when it refreshes new aircraft appear as if by magic?

Anyone else noticed this?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: vruma on June 20, 2009, 07:39:32 AM
Flickering fields in map, no map title
When using two maps side by side, at certain times two fields can be seen flickering in the active map (left) while paning or zooming in and out using the mouse wheel. I assume those are the fields of the map title and the home position. The map title however is not shown.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3612/3642668905_5aab85009d_m.jpg)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Roadrunner on June 20, 2009, 07:43:47 AM
When I go to 'MAP' at the top of the screen, click on it then 'Set Map To' a list of the various countries comes up but the countries I added on version 2 do not seem to be there. However when I go into C:\AirNav Systems then into AirNav Radarbox 2009 and then into the Map folder all the maps I created in version 2 are there. How do I get these maps to go into the drop down map menu in version 3 without having to individually create them all over again.
I found that V3 beta creates a new set of folders and files specofocally for the beat so you need to be sure you have the maps in the correct folder for the 3beta version....

Cheers,

Ian
I found that V3 beta creates a new set of folders and files specifically for the beta so you need to be sure you have the maps in the correct folder for the 3beta version....
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 20, 2009, 07:50:54 AM
Hi Support and All,

I just made my SQL-report of yesterday flightmovements in my area of reception. I did the same I always did before installing version 3.0 Beta.

The results are to cry so bad. If you like to see the report, please let me know and I will sent it to you. When anlyzing this report maybe it gives you possibly an impression of the problems.

Can you at least give us a clue - what's the problem?  My daily SQL report looks okay - see yesterday's report at http://www.tarbat.gofreeserve.com/data.html

What SQL are you using?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: John Racars on June 20, 2009, 08:05:39 AM
What SQL are you using?

The same as you give to me around 2-3 weeks ago:

SELECT
  Flights.Route,
  Flights.Callsign,
  Flights.EndTime,
  Flights.ModeS,
  Flights.MsgCount,
  Flights.Registration,
  Flights.Session,
  Flights.StartTime,
  Flights.StartPosition,
  Flights.EndPosition,
  Flights.StartAltitude,
  Flights.EndAltitude,
  Flights.StartGS,
  Flights.EndGS,
  Aircraft.Comment,
  Aircraft.LastTime,
  Aircraft.FirstTime,
  Aircraft.AircraftTypeLong,
  Aircraft.AircraftTypeSmall,
  Aircraft.Airline,
  Aircraft.ModeS,
  Aircraft.ModeSCountry,
  Aircraft.Registration,
  Aircraft.ADSB
FROM
 Flights
 LEFT OUTER JOIN Aircraft ON (Flights.ModeS=Aircraft.ModeS)
WHERE
  (Flights.StartTime LIKE '2009/06/19%')
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 20, 2009, 08:06:35 AM
Airnav, I do think we need an adjustment to the length of time used to decide whether a new flight has started.  At the moment, with just a couple of minutes lost signal from an aircraft, Radarbox creates a new flight record in the log.

I would suggest a time interval of 15 minutes.  Does that sound reasonable?  Or is this tied-in to the timeout settings?

See examples in my daily report (http://www.tarbat.gofreeserve.com/data.html) - G-CIVD is a good example, three flights:
BAW285 ended 12:50
BAW285 ended 12:55
BAW285 ended 13:09

Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: TedLoon on June 20, 2009, 08:15:49 AM
tarbat i agree but looking at your log you would still have picked the flight up twice even with a 15 minute interval. what about 30-45 min


colin
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 20, 2009, 08:16:29 AM
I'm not getting any KC-135 flight IDs though.  I still need to verify with an SBS user as to whether or not they even have a flight ID.

One in my log yesterday - 58-0093 with FlightID QID95.  See log at http://www.tarbat.gofreeserve.com/data.html

In fact, looking through my previous days' logs, I see several KC-135s with FlightIDs like RCH0345, EXPO88, etc.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 20, 2009, 08:20:08 AM
tarbat i agree but looking at your log you would still have picked the flight up twice even with a 15 minute interval. what about 30-45 min

Remember you're only seeing the END TIME in my log report.  I'd expect the time interval to be between the END TIME and the next START TIME.

30-45 minutes could mean that an aircraft lands, and then takes off, and you'd only get one flight record in the log.  Would only be a problem for aircraft without FlightIDs, because typically the FlightID would change between landing and takeoff.

I think anything more than the turnaround time could be a problem.  As an experiment today, I've increased my TIMEOUT time in preferences to see what that does to the log.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: DaveReid on June 20, 2009, 08:32:01 AM
30-45 minutes could mean that an aircraft lands, and then takes off, and you'd only get one flight record in the log.  Would only be a problem for aircraft without FlightIDs, because typically the FlightID would change between landing and takeoff.

I think anything more than the turnaround time could be a problem.  As an experiment today, I've increased my TIMEOUT time in preferences to see what that does to the log.

There's a discussion about this issue earlier on in this thread:  www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=2893.msg25878#msg25878

I had the same problem with my LHR database, trying to decide how soon an aircraft can feasibly reappear after landing - the answer IMHO is to make the "new-flight timout" a user-configurable parameter.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 20, 2009, 08:35:07 AM
There's a discussion about this issue earlier on in this thread:  www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=2893.msg25878#msg25878

I had the same problem with my LHR database, trying to decide how soon an aircraft can feasibly reappear after landing - the answer IMHO is to make the "new-flight timout" a user-configurable parameter.

Agreed.  15 minutes sounds like a useful default, and maybe let the user change that in Preferences.

Airnav, can we get this change included in the next beta?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: dumpty on June 20, 2009, 08:56:50 AM
This is a wierd one;

On the map display i keep losing the plane symbol and info from any new planes coming on to the display particuarly fom the bottom of the screen going north.If it weren't for the trails I wouldn't know they were there.

However if i zoom in or out the plane symbol and info appear no problem!

Keep up the good work airnav.

Simon
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: vruma on June 20, 2009, 10:12:22 AM
This is a wierd one;

On the map display i keep losing the plane symbol and info from any new planes coming on to the display particuarly fom the bottom of the screen going north.If it weren't for the trails I wouldn't know they were there.

However if i zoom in or out the plane symbol and info appear no problem!

Keep up the good work airnav.

Simon

Somehow my observation seems similar to the quoted post of Simon: having the map open for a while, one can see for instance three flights displayed on that map. When now you zoom out and back in again, suddenly there are many more than those three flights shown. Could this be a screen refresh problem?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EMA on June 20, 2009, 10:26:36 AM
This is a wierd one;

On the map display i keep losing the plane symbol and info from any new planes coming on to the display particuarly fom the bottom of the screen going north.If it weren't for the trails I wouldn't know they were there.

However if i zoom in or out the plane symbol and info appear no problem!

Keep up the good work airnav.

Simon

Looks like a similar problem to what I have experienced and posted earlier. I have seen this in the closed beta and the open one. I guess others are missing this because the aircraft are not there unless you zoom in/out. They do appear in the aircraft list but not the map so it looks like a map redraw issue.

UPDATE

After posting this I looked at my map and no aircraft were visible just a few odd trails, zooming in/out and 8 aircraft popped out of nowhere.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EMA on June 20, 2009, 10:46:51 AM
Another new issue

When starting the program with hardware and network flights enabled I see network flights on the ground at my local airport that take 5 minutes to timeout, this did not happen in V2. They do go if I switch network off/on.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EK01 on June 20, 2009, 10:47:35 AM
When I go to 'MAP' at the top of the screen, click on it then 'Set Map To' a list of the various countries comes up but the countries I added on version 2 do not seem to be there. However when I go into C:\AirNav Systems then into AirNav Radarbox 2009 and then into the Map folder all the maps I created in version 2 are there. How do I get these maps to go into the drop down map menu in version 3 without having to individually create them all over again.
I found that V3 beta creates a new set of folders and files specofocally for the beat so you need to be sure you have the maps in the correct folder for the 3beta version....

Cheers,

Ian
I found that V3 beta creates a new set of folders and files specifically for the beta so you need to be sure you have the maps in the correct folder for the 3beta version....

Roadrunner,

Not computer literate. Which is the best and easiest way to do this.

Ian
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 20, 2009, 10:56:40 AM
As an experiment today, I've increased my TIMEOUT time in preferences to see what that does to the log.

Quick update on this.  Not a definitive answer, it needs more long-term testing, but increasing the timeout times for local flights appears to cure this problem of duplicate entries in MyLog.

Since 09:00UTC I've been running with local timeouts of 110/790 (total of 15 minutes), and have NO duplicate flight records in My Log.  If you want to try this, also remember that you might want to filter the aircraft list on Status<>1Timeout

Would be useful for others to test this to see if they still get duplicate log entries.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: John Racars on June 20, 2009, 11:10:01 AM
If you want to try this, also remember that you might want to filter the aircraft list on Status<>1Timeout

Would be useful for others to test this to see if they still get duplicate log entries.

Tarbat, I should like to take part in testing this; has this consequenses for my SQL?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 20, 2009, 11:15:34 AM
Tarbat, I should like to take part in testing this; has this consequenses for my SQL?

No changes to your SQL needed.  Although you can also look at the TODAY report in Radarbox itself.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: John Racars on June 20, 2009, 12:07:02 PM
About Route information:

Just seen on the map:

KLM1324 EHAM-LEMD; should be EVRA-EHAM (like it is known and correctly in the RB route database).

New mystery?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Andy Frost on June 20, 2009, 12:44:32 PM
I've a few problems with v3.0 Beta.

1) The label for the Pole Hill VOR seems to have permanently disappeared. When I first started 3.0 Beta I didn't have labels for the Warton and Trent VORs but did have Pole Hill. I exited from the program and re-entered. I found then that the labels for Warton and Trent had appeared but now I've lost Pole Hill (see attached screen shot).

2) A bug I repported several months ago is still present. The text showing the aircraft details to the right of the photo of the aircraft is getting clipped by something on the far right of the panel (I have circled this in red on the screen shot). If I cover up that area with something like NotePad and then minimise NotePad to force a repainting of that area then the text is displayed correctly. I obvious don't want to keep popping up NotePad though. Putting the mouse over the flight on the map redisplays the text and it gets clipped again.

3) As some others have reported, I am now swamped by Waypoints. Compare waypoints on the v2.0 screen shot with those on the v3.0.

I am running under Windows XP with SP3. I did a complete install of 3.0 Beta to a new directory.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Allocator on June 20, 2009, 12:55:38 PM
Andy,

I can only get the truncated information if I select one ac photo only and increase the size of the map so that it's only showing as far as the "SmartView" tab.  If you reduce the size of your map by a fraction, I'd guess that this problem goes away.  It's almost as if there is a small 'border' to the left of the map window.

I run with 2 photos selected and the map covering the ADS-B Only button at the top with the Show all button visible.

I'm gett the Pole Hill label OK.  Are you using the new .dat file?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Andy Frost on June 20, 2009, 01:12:28 PM
That's called a "work-around" in the business! Adapting usage to an existing bug.

There is no problem with me being able to see the text with my map that size (I want to see as much of the map as possible) because the text is drawn correctly if I refresh it manually using NotePad as described above. The problem is that something else is being drawn unnecessarily over that text when it is updated. If it is a map border then it should be refreshed before the text is drawn and not after it. Then this problem will not occur.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: RodBearden on June 20, 2009, 01:23:39 PM
Anybody else noticed the Wandering Weather toolbar? It seems to randomly switch between these two positions ( and I once saw it over on the left beside the Menu):

(http://www.rbearden.toucansurf.com/Toolbar%20position%201.gif)

(http://www.rbearden.toucansurf.com/Toolbar%20position%202.gif)

Rod
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Allocator on June 20, 2009, 01:28:51 PM
The reason why I've never seen this before is because I've never had the aircraft list so small :-)

I need to see:

ACARS
Globe
Mode S
Flag
Flight ID
Registration
Aircraft
Shilloutte
Airline
Route

And with my lovely big screen 22 inch screen running at 1680 x 1050 I can see everything :-)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3642/3643977208_101cee09c9.jpg)

Edit: In fact I do have the map a bit smaller as I show Altitude and squawk too.  That also allows me to see the ADS-B Only button as well.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Allocator on June 20, 2009, 01:30:48 PM
Anybody else noticed the Wandering Weather toolbar? It seems to randomly switch between these two positions ( and I once saw it over on the left beside the Menu):

Rod

Oh yes, I can see this now you've pointed it out.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: malc41 on June 20, 2009, 01:52:00 PM
I thought that was just me with all the new stuff floating around
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Andy Frost on June 20, 2009, 02:36:08 PM
Concerning my previous problem with loss of names on VORs, this seems to be affected by whether I choose to display Fixed points or not. If I remove Fixed points then I get back the name of the Pole Hill VOR. If I add Fixed points then I lose one or more VOR names.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: AirNav Support on June 20, 2009, 02:46:59 PM
Thats probally due to the lack of space of the map then when all the fixes are on.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EK01 on June 20, 2009, 02:51:27 PM
Concerning my previous problem with loss of names on VORs, this seems to be affected by whether I choose to display Fixed points or not. If I remove Fixed points then I get back the name of the Pole Hill VOR. If I add Fixed points then I lose one or more VOR names.

Andy,

I have the same problem. When I turn on the Fixes, the names of Glasgow and Prestwick airports disappear but when I switch Fixes off the airport names come back on again. The huge increase in Fixes is obviously causing problems.

Cheers,

Ian
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Andy Frost on June 20, 2009, 03:11:13 PM
Maybe someone can enlighten me, I don't understand where all these extra fix points have come from in 3.0 Beta and why they are necessary. Isn't it enough with the fix points we had in V2.0? I think that was the same as listed at http://www.nats-uk.ead-it.com/aip/current/enr/EG_ENR_4_4_en.pdf (http://www.nats-uk.ead-it.com/aip/current/enr/EG_ENR_4_4_en.pdf) (for the UK anyway). Maybe we can have different levels of the number of fix points the user wants displayed.

Zooming is painfully slow with all the fix points displayed. It can take 8,9 or 10 seconds to zoom one step in/out with my fast Dual-Core machine. Without fix points the zooming is instantaneous.

A small point concerning zooming. Zooming the map in and out with the + or - keys, mouse wheel or right-click menu isn't consistent. One step of zooming in followed by one step of zooming out doesn't put the map back where it was but zooms out one extra step.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EMA on June 20, 2009, 03:14:16 PM
Maybe someone can enlighten me, I don't understand where all these extra fix points have come from in 3.0 Beta and why they are necessary.

I think it has been mentioned somewhere in this thread by Airnav but it is getting so long I cannot find it.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Allocator on June 20, 2009, 03:20:15 PM
Maybe someone can enlighten me, I don't understand where all these extra fix points have come from in 3.0 Beta and why they are necessary.

I think it has been mentioned somewhere in this thread by Airnav but it is getting so long I cannot find it.

It's probably just a bulk import from a nav aid database.  I don't tend to have the fixes, VOR's or NDB's selected on.  I also switch the airports off unless I'm zoomed right in to watch the approaches and departures.  I don't "need" all these fixes, but there certainly do seem to be an awful lot of them.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EMA on June 20, 2009, 03:22:16 PM
vruma,

Thanks we are aware of those. The sluggish response with all the fixes is normal :) as there is soo many that it has trouble. A few customers and Professional customers really wanted this.

We will discuss whether there is ways to limit them internally.

Andy, here is the post.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: AirNav Support on June 20, 2009, 03:27:38 PM
Just as FYI for you guys. Here are the bugs being looked at present

Serious:

Some machines software does not start with error. (Comptability fix)
Aircraft on map disspearing and returning with zoom

High:

Full screen and then return does not show map/aircraft
Duplicate Entries of flights in MyLog, required longer timeout or capabilty for user to change timeout
Check route alogrtithm and sometimes wrong routes are being displayed
Range alerts not working

Low:

Font issue with commas and dots in custom legend
Filter to last ten minutes or one hour in MyLog Missing
No icon to resize interface window shown
Entries of closed maps in windows menu
Error message in preference menu
The 'execute a file' box is always ticked in alerts
Text showing the aircraft details to the right of the photo of the aircraft is getting clipped
No up and down icons for Flights
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 20, 2009, 03:37:43 PM
A small point concerning zooming. Zooming the map in and out with the + or - keys, mouse wheel or right-click menu isn't consistent. One step of zooming in followed by one step of zooming out doesn't put the map back where it was but zooms out one extra step.

One step of zooming out = two steps of zooming in.   I quite like it like that, since you can zoom out quickly, and then slowly zoom into the area you're interested in.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: snowman on June 20, 2009, 03:42:40 PM
I have also noticed another "feature" in that if you move the mouse over different parts of the map, the local time shown in the bottom left hand corner changes e.g. putting the mouse over the sea puts the displayed time back one hour.
Not sure if this is normal behaviour
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: RodBearden on June 20, 2009, 03:50:14 PM
Suppport - to add to the low list - the Wander Weather toolbar has a side-effect - the last line of the grid can't display properly when the Weather toolbar is up alongside the menu, so I lose a line:

(http://www.rbearden.toucansurf.com/Lost%20line.gif)

Rod
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Jollygreen on June 20, 2009, 03:58:29 PM
This is a wierd one;

On the map display i keep losing the plane symbol and info from any new planes coming on to the display particuarly fom the bottom of the screen going north.If it weren't for the trails I wouldn't know they were there.

However if i zoom in or out the plane symbol and info appear no problem!

Keep up the good work airnav.

Simon

Looks like a similar problem to what I have experienced and posted earlier. I have seen this in the closed beta and the open one. I guess others are missing this because the aircraft are not there unless you zoom in/out. They do appear in the aircraft list but not the map so it looks like a map redraw issue.

UPDATE

After posting this I looked at my map and no aircraft were visible just a few odd trails, zooming in/out and 8 aircraft popped out of nowhere.

I have had the new version running all day, even though it has been totally overcast here in Chelmsford and nothing has been seen visually. That said, I have noticed like many others that floghts disappear and only return when I zoom in or out. Is this being looked into AirNav?

Nigel
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: RodBearden on June 20, 2009, 04:01:32 PM
Nigel - 4th line of reply #257.

Rod
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Jollygreen on June 20, 2009, 04:21:46 PM
Thanks Rod, had only got as far as page 16 when I posted ny comment as I was seeing similar issues.

Nigel

Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: AirNav Development on June 20, 2009, 04:26:03 PM
Jollygreen: you will be contacted by email today about this one.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Jollygreen on June 20, 2009, 04:27:14 PM
Thank you AirNav
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EMA on June 20, 2009, 05:45:32 PM
Thanks Rod, had only got as far as page 16 when I posted ny comment as I was seeing similar issues.

Nigel



Nigel, do you also see trails with no aircraft at the end of the trail?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Jollygreen on June 20, 2009, 05:52:21 PM
Can't say that i have notice that one but will keep an eye out when I am using it tomorrow, if the weather is good.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: dumpty on June 20, 2009, 06:13:55 PM
EMA

That is exactly what I am getting,trails with no aircraft.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EMA on June 20, 2009, 06:18:54 PM
EMA

That is exactly what I am getting,trails with no aircraft.

Okay, it is like the aircraft have timed out but in reality they are there when a map refresh is performed.

Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EK01 on June 20, 2009, 06:57:49 PM
Just as FYI for you guys. Here are the bugs being looked at present

Serious:

Some machines software does not start with error. (Comptability fix)
Aircraft on map disspearing and returning with zoom

High:

Full screen and then return does not show map/aircraft
Duplicate Entries of flights in MyLog, required longer timeout or capabilty for user to change timeout
Check route alogrtithm and sometimes wrong routes are being displayed
Range alerts not working

Low:

Font issue with commas and dots in custom legend
Filter to last ten minutes or one hour in MyLog Missing
No icon to resize interface window shown
Entries of closed maps in windows menu
Error message in preference menu
The 'execute a file' box is always ticked in alerts
Text showing the aircraft details to the right of the photo of the aircraft is getting clipped
No up and down icons for Flights


Airnav Support, can you please add the problem of too many fixes now showing and whether some sort of filter to restrict them can be added. Perhaps under 'High' as there have been quite a few mentions.

Cheers
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Paulc on June 20, 2009, 07:59:22 PM
Running RB V3 beta on XP sp3 laptop - working fine. Database explorer menu seems to appear more quickly than before.
One minor bug is that a lot of the airfied names disappear when adding the vor beacons. Am guessing this is to stop screen becoming too cluttered but it was ok on the previous version
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Lou on June 20, 2009, 08:18:55 PM
Hi Airnav thanx for all the hard work, I got a couple of problems and a couple of remedy`s for some problems others have posted.My problem no alerts work at all also notification does not work, im running Vista sp2 core 2 duo 2.66 with 4 Gb ram, the failure to start also happened to me, I found that right clicking the icon and clicking run as administrator did the trick for me,after this just normal left click starts the programme every time. I also had the navy blue background after esc from full screen,I got round this by going to windows/restore desktop this brought me right back to the screen I was using. By the way i`ve got network flight`s turned off (wish this was default). Regards Lou
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: golf on June 20, 2009, 08:52:04 PM
Hi after upgrade to v3.0 i have no Logos, Silhouettes or Photo's in my flights(show photos is ticked in tools) .
I'm running Vista Home Premium on laptop. Cheers
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 20, 2009, 09:02:17 PM
Did you download/run the update from v2.0, or the full install?

Which folder do you have ANRB installed in?

Do the Silhouette, Photo, and Logo folders exist in your Radabox/Data folder?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: golf on June 20, 2009, 09:14:12 PM
Hi tarbat tried full install and update. Latest attempt is with update.
ANRB is installed in program files.
Photos Logo Silhouettes are there in Data folder.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 20, 2009, 10:00:48 PM
Don't think anyone else has reported a problem like this.  So, all I can suggest is to do a full install, but DON'T use the default location in Program Files.  Put it somewhere like C:\Airnav
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: dchainey on June 20, 2009, 11:11:04 PM
My update seems to be working fine with one exception. Typically while traveling I run RB on my laptop. When I get home I transfer MyLog to my main computer for manipulation (it's faster, easier to use etc). However when I transferred MyLog.db3 from Airnav Systems/AirNav Radarbox 2009/Data I ended up with only historical data, nothing from after when I installed v3.0. Does 3.0 store data in a different place?

DaveC
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Canonjohns40D on June 20, 2009, 11:15:19 PM
Hi Airnav

I also now have noted the trails and no aircraft scenario. if I zoom in/out the aircraft appears. Any advice please?

john

Dohhh sorry read earlier reply, I understand this is under review.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: AirNav Support on June 20, 2009, 11:22:27 PM
As mentioned in the earlier status post, we are investigating the issue and hoping to have it fixed asp.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: DaveReid on June 21, 2009, 07:37:46 AM
My update seems to be working fine with one exception. Typically while traveling I run RB on my laptop. When I get home I transfer MyLog to my main computer for manipulation (it's faster, easier to use etc). However when I transferred MyLog.db3 from Airnav Systems/AirNav Radarbox 2009/Data I ended up with only historical data, nothing from after when I installed v3.0. Does 3.0 store data in a different place?

Look in AirNav Systems\AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta\Data
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: snowman on June 21, 2009, 08:20:36 AM
Another bug I've found which I find really frustrating is the failure to save my label colour preferences. Every time I load the application I have to go through and reset all the label colours as I would like them. It would be great to have them saved to avoid doing this
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Allocator on June 21, 2009, 08:22:43 AM
Another bug I've found which I find really frustrating is the failure to save my label colour preferences. Every time I load the application I have to go through and reset all the label colours as I would like them. It would be great to have them saved to avoid doing this

Snowman, are you saving "Exporting" your colour scheme after making the changes?  Your new scheme will then appear in the colour drop-down menu for access with one button click.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 21, 2009, 08:24:43 AM
Not a definitive answer, it needs more long-term testing, but increasing the timeout times for local flights appears to cure this problem of duplicate entries in MyLog.

Okay, this has cured the duplicate entries in MyLog.  With a total timeout time of 15 minutes, I don't see any duplicate MyLog entries.  I changed timeouts at 10am yesterday, and after that time I have no duplicates - see yesterdays log at http://www.tarbat.gofreeserve.com/data.html
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Col on June 21, 2009, 08:25:27 AM
Hi

I installed yesterday on my desktop running XP SP3 with no issues at all.

The only problem I have seen is with the reporter - instead of putting a * next to new aircraft it is only putting next too unknown codes. I could not see this in thelist of bugs already summarised above.
Cheers
Colin
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: snowman on June 21, 2009, 08:26:59 AM
Another bug I've found which I find really frustrating is the failure to save my label colour preferences. Every time I load the application I have to go through and reset all the label colours as I would like them. It would be great to have them saved to avoid doing this

Snowman, are you saving "Exporting" your colour scheme after making the changes?  Your new scheme will then appear in the colour drop-down menu for access with one button click.

No I'm not - it never occurred to me that the Export button worked like that, but now you've said it it seems fairly obvious. I must have missed that in the User Guide. Thanks Allocator - I'll give it a try now
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 21, 2009, 08:33:28 AM
Export as Default.mcl is best
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Canonjohns40D on June 21, 2009, 08:40:50 AM
HI I also am only seeing the * with unknowns as per Col's entry.

John
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: dor4x on June 21, 2009, 09:28:21 AM
Hi
Good work! Loved the ZOOM IN OUT keybpard shortcut!
Small bug when working with dual monitors. I can only guess it is some kind of memory adressing problem.
As I work with 2 monitors I can't drag the RadarBox to be displayed on both monitors as I could before. I get white screen and program stuck. Sometimes after 30 sec it come back to life.
It would be nice RD would remeber last windo size configuration..
Thanks
Thanks.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: abrad41 on June 21, 2009, 09:36:26 AM
Hi

Has anybody else had problems with this.

Before the menu's were slow and hanging - now with V3 I have a problem with them being to quick, I click on the menu's and they are gone before I have a chance to select what I want.

Cheers

Andy
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: John Racars on June 21, 2009, 09:44:43 AM
I changed timeouts

I changed "Timeout for MyFlights" in the "Preferences">"Radarbox"-window into 110 / 790 (like you did Tarbat?).

I did not analyse my report of yesterday yet, but after a quick view it looks better.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: abrad41 on June 21, 2009, 10:27:15 AM
Quote
Hi

Has anybody else had problems with this.

Before the menu's were slow and hanging - now with V3 I have a problem with them being to quick, I click on the menu's and they are gone before I have a chance to select what I want.

This is also happening with all the menu's including the filter menu's. This seem to be ok at startup, but after about 5 mins the problem start

Andy
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: bailey_uk on June 21, 2009, 10:34:40 AM

1) The label for the Pole Hill VOR seems to have permanently disappeared. When I first started 3.0 Beta I didn't have labels for the Warton and Trent VORs but did have Pole Hill. I exited from the program and re-entered. I found then that the labels for Warton and Trent had appeared but now I've lost Pole Hill (see attached screen shot).


I second this also, was about to say the same thing regarding Pole Hill Label.

SP3 also.

James
 
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: sterigia on June 21, 2009, 10:49:33 AM
my program is working ok, it must be a bug
frank
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: bailey_uk on June 21, 2009, 11:39:41 AM
Regarding the FIX issue,
It appears there are a handfull of new ones added that must be quite recent that definitely want to stay.

The other ones that are just cluttering up the screen tend to be the ones indictating distances to fix's, which are not needed in my opinion.

James

Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EK01 on June 21, 2009, 12:49:51 PM
James,

Totally agree with you on that one. Far too cluttered now.

Ian
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: sterigia on June 21, 2009, 05:14:25 PM
i have to correct my last post, when updating from network the program hangs, it restarts working when the connection to network has finished , please look into this
thanks
frank
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: dchainey on June 21, 2009, 09:19:36 PM
My update seems to be working fine with one exception. Typically while traveling I run RB on my laptop. When I get home I transfer MyLog to my main computer for manipulation (it's faster, easier to use etc). However when I transferred MyLog.db3 from Airnav Systems/AirNav Radarbox 2009/Data I ended up with only historical data, nothing from after when I installed v3.0. Does 3.0 store data in a different place?

Look in AirNav Systems\AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta\Data

This directory doesn't exist in upgraded versions. However it appeared when I did a full install. On copying MyLog from this directory to my main PC, I still got the same problem. It's not showing any flights after 8/2008, which is maybe when I did the RB2009 upgrade.

DaveC
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: besty on June 21, 2009, 10:53:49 PM
I've just seen a Flight going to Robin Hood Airport, doesn't exist on the map, well the outline does but no identifier or name.

Stuart.

Got version 3 working in compatability mode for 98/me. on xp and sp3 otherwise nothing.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: dchainey on June 21, 2009, 11:10:35 PM
My update seems to be working fine with one exception. Typically while traveling I run RB on my laptop. When I get home I transfer MyLog to my main computer for manipulation (it's faster, easier to use etc). However when I transferred MyLog.db3 from Airnav Systems/AirNav Radarbox 2009/Data I ended up with only historical data, nothing from after when I installed v3.0. Does 3.0 store data in a different place?

Look in AirNav Systems\AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta\Data

This directory doesn't exist in upgraded versions. However it appeared when I did a full install. On copying MyLog from this directory to my main PC, I still got the same problem. It's not showing any flights after 8/2008, which is maybe when I did the RB2009 upgrade.

DaveC

I've done a little more investigating. Firstly I should explain more fully what I am currently doing. While at home I run RB on an XP Pro desktop. It has the full install of the RB 3.0 beta. It seems to be behaving normally. There are two Airnav directories (I'm paraphrasing the full names),

Airnav/Arb 2009/data

Airnav/ARB 2009 3.0 beta/Data

The first contains MyLog.db3           2.38Mb created at 1.51pm today
The second contains MyLog.db3         90Kb created at 3.54pm today

My log appears to run normally on this computer.

When I travel, I take an XP Home SP3 laptop with me, and, in the past, I've transferred MyLog.db3 from the first computer to this. If I do this now, MyLog only runs up as far as June 19. When I get home, I transfer MyLog from the laptop to a desktop running Vista Home SP2. If I do this now, the data only runs as far as June 2008.

Very odd!!

Do I still need the Radarbox 2008 and Radarbox 2009 directories on the various computers?

DaveC
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: dchainey on June 22, 2009, 01:34:19 AM
My update seems to be working fine with one exception. Typically while traveling I run RB on my laptop. When I get home I transfer MyLog to my main computer for manipulation (it's faster, easier to use etc). However when I transferred MyLog.db3 from Airnav Systems/AirNav Radarbox 2009/Data I ended up with only historical data, nothing from after when I installed v3.0. Does 3.0 store data in a different place?

Look in AirNav Systems\AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta\Data

This directory doesn't exist in upgraded versions. However it appeared when I did a full install. On copying MyLog from this directory to my main PC, I still got the same problem. It's not showing any flights after 8/2008, which is maybe when I did the RB2009 upgrade.

DaveC

I've done a little more investigating. Firstly I should explain more fully what I am currently doing. While at home I run RB on an XP Pro desktop. It has the full install of the RB 3.0 beta. It seems to be behaving normally. There are two Airnav directories (I'm paraphrasing the full names),

Airnav/Arb 2009/data

Airnav/ARB 2009 3.0 beta/Data

The first contains MyLog.db3           2.38Mb created at 1.51pm today
The second contains MyLog.db3         90Kb created at 3.54pm today

My log appears to run normally on this computer.

When I travel, I take an XP Home SP3 laptop with me, and, in the past, I've transferred MyLog.db3 from the first computer to this. If I do this now, MyLog only runs up as far as June 19. When I get home, I transfer MyLog from the laptop to a desktop running Vista Home SP2. If I do this now, the data only runs as far as June 2008.

Very odd!!

Do I still need the Radarbox 2008 and Radarbox 2009 directories on the various computers?

DaveC

Solved it. It appears that with my laptop, which was my original RB machine, there were three folders, RB2008, RB2009 and RB 2009 Beta 3.0.
Now it appears that the Beta 3.0 installation writes the new ANRB.exe to EACH of these folders. If you don't change the desktop icon, which I didn't, the laptop ended up pathed to RB2008, the XP desktop to RB2009 and the Vista desktop to RB2009 Beta 3.0.

It seems a daft way to do an installation, but there you are!!

DaveC
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: JRS98 on June 22, 2009, 05:17:13 AM
AirNav,

My email alerts still aren't working properly. No info except time and Mode-S code. Just letting you know again so you can make a note of it. Thanks
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: nortonbeak on June 22, 2009, 07:44:53 AM
Whn I first installed V3 I had to use the Windows98/ME compatibilty fix to get it to run on my Windows XP laptop.

This morning when I try to start V3, the hardware checking box remains yellow.

On trying to run V2, there is no problem, everything starts normally.

I made the full install of V3 on Friday and it has operated OK over the weekend.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: LiveATC on June 22, 2009, 08:15:13 AM
Developers attention, with a course of 359-000 degrees the vector of an airplane changes a direction for 180 degrees!
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: abrad41 on June 22, 2009, 08:39:33 AM
Quote
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Hi

Has anybody else had problems with this.

Before the menu's were slow and hanging - now with V3 I have a problem with them being to quick, I click on the menu's and they are gone before I have a chance to select what I want.


This is also happening with all the menu's including the filter menu's. This seem to be ok at startup, but after about 5 mins the problem start

I have also noticed now that v3 and the problem above is effecting the world computer, if I right click on the desktop, the menu just goes in seconds, when I was typeing this text I had to close RB as it was effecting me typeing. I think I may have to go back to v2 until the bugs are sorted.

Would this be a problem caused by useing it in compatibility mode (windows 98/windows Me)

Just a thought - the people having the problems with windows Xp sp3 - could they all be using a bit of software that is causeing the problem - such as AVG, etc etc.

Edit - also effecting the operation of my screen saver.

Andy
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: nortonbeak on June 22, 2009, 09:35:24 AM
Whn I first installed V3 I had to use the Windows98/ME compatibilty fix to get it to run on my Windows XP laptop.

This morning when I try to start V3, the hardware checking box remains yellow.

On trying to run V2, there is no problem, everything starts normally.

I made the full install of V3 on Friday and it has operated OK over the weekend.

Found out what the matter was.

I tried to transfer my MyLog file from V3 to V2. Then I got the hardware checking fault with V2.

Went back to an earlier version of MyLog and can now run V3 again.

Don't know why the MyLog caused a problem however.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: GreekSpy2001 on June 22, 2009, 09:54:55 AM
Sorry posting in correct thread

Further to below.  Install on my laptop with SP3 and worked fine.  Now tried the compatibility mode on PC and it is now starting.

Guess on for the DEV boys to sort.  Let me know if any testing required

Graham

Hi

I have tried multiple downloads. reboots of system stopping AVG AV, installed upgrade and full version.  Tried away from standard install.  V2.0 worked well no problem at all.  Running XP SP3.  But everytime I start ARNB.EXE it crashes with the windows send debug loog shown.

Help


Graham
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: nortonbeak on June 22, 2009, 10:02:53 AM
With the next software amendment will it be possible to correct that most irritating of spelling errors in MyFlights? I am referring to "Leveled" which should, of course read "Levelled".  :-)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: DaveReid on June 22, 2009, 10:20:38 AM
With the next software amendment will it be possible to correct that most irritating of spelling errors in MyFlights? I am referring to "Leveled" which should, of course read "Levelled".  :-)

Strictly speaking "leveled" isn't actually wrong, it's simply the American spelling.

But that doesn't excuse (in Preferences -> RadarBox):

"In some countries it may be ilegal to share flight data.  You have to assume total responsability on the consequences of sharing flight data"

I notice there's a post from AirNav looking for users to translate the application into German, French, Portuguese, Spanish, Japanese, Italian, etc - I think they need someone to translate it into English first  :-)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: malc41 on June 22, 2009, 10:26:53 AM
Problem that started in v2 and is still in v3. The map freezes and when I close the map and re-open there is no background map just the polar display and the aircraft.

Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: GreekSpy2001 on June 22, 2009, 01:24:39 PM
Sorry posting in correct thread

Further to below.  Install on my laptop with SP3 and worked fine.  Now tried the compatibility mode on PC and it is now starting.

Guess on for the DEV boys to sort.  Let me know if any testing required

Graham

Hi

I have tried multiple downloads. reboots of system stopping AVG AV, installed upgrade and full version.  Tried away from standard install.  V2.0 worked well no problem at all.  Running XP SP3.  But everytime I start ARNB.EXE it crashes with the windows send debug loog shown.

Help


Graham

Further to this get a DLL error when clicking on a picture  saying ATL80.DLL cannot be run on Win 98 or ME.  Obviously this work around has its limitations. Hope the problem can be fixed asap.

Graham
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EGNXR on June 22, 2009, 02:22:06 PM
Hi Airnav,

There seems to be a little gremlin in reporter today. See Attatched Screenshot:-(

Must have been a bit cramped;-)

Cheers John
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 22, 2009, 02:47:21 PM
There seems to be a little gremlin in reporter today. See Attatched Screenshot:-(

Are you referring to 4007FF?  If so, then the aircraft set FlightID JCB2 at 8:01:34, change to a different FlightID BCY158C at 08:18:14, and then changed back to JCB2 at 08:18:17.  It then probably went out of range, and re-appeared after timeout as FlightID JCB2 at 08:27:39.

Looks correct to me.  Although the BCY158C flightID looks a bit strange, so may have been a false reception.  EDIT: In fact BCY158C was being used by 4007FD, so a false reception ( http://www.live-civil-mode-s.eu/search/popup.php?zoekstring=4007FD ).

What are your timeout settings?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: RodBearden on June 22, 2009, 02:57:17 PM
I don't recall this having been mentioned before, but now a lot of aircraft on the ground at airports are showing silly altitudes, headings and speeds. Is RB decoding these correctly?

(http://www.rbearden.toucansurf.com/Airport%20heights.gif)

Rod
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 22, 2009, 03:02:40 PM
Are they definately on the ground, and not just overflying?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: RodBearden on June 22, 2009, 03:19:48 PM
The're not moving very fast, that's for sure :-) - I was going to do the screenshot at Manchester, but overflying aircraft got in the way.

Do I take it from your question that you're not seeing the same thing, Tarbat?

Rod
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EMA on June 22, 2009, 03:21:42 PM
Rod

I have seen this a couple of times at EGNX they are always network aircraft that have not timed out. If I switch network off/on they disappear.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 22, 2009, 03:22:46 PM
Do I take it from your question that you're not seeing the same thing, Tarbat?

I don't use the network much, so no, I haven't seen this.  They look like approach speeds, so maybe aircraft transmitting inaccurate positions, and then timing-out on the local users RB.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: RodBearden on June 22, 2009, 03:29:23 PM
Nope, they aren't timed out, and stopping/restarting the network doesn't work for me - they are almost certainly "live" contacts - and I saw it happen live on MyFlights with a Jet2 B733 at Blackpool an hour or so ago.

EDIT And anyway, most of the aircraft would have stalled flying at those speeds at those altitudes!

Rod
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: malc41 on June 22, 2009, 04:14:10 PM
Wrong QFE!!!!
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Canonjohns40D on June 22, 2009, 04:25:21 PM
Hi all

Re Rod's issue, I noticed this yesterday. I had a few aircraft showing over Aldergrove but they had heights speeds inconsistent with an approach? They were or appeared to be live contacts not network. However having used zoom to clear a couple of trail only aircraft these others disappeared?? Related issue perhaps?

John
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: RodBearden on June 22, 2009, 04:35:13 PM
Malc - I don't think it can be a wrong QFE or QNH - I had 1028 set, it's currently 1027 at EGLL - and anyway, the aircraft are showing very different altitudes from each other. Are you not getting this problem?

Rod
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: John Racars on June 22, 2009, 04:45:44 PM
but after a quick view it looks better.

Hi All,

I have to take back that.

My 24h SQL-report based on "MyLOG.db3" of yesterday gives a total of started flights in my area of reception of 6446. Very distorted I think. There are very much duplicated flights in this report (some flights even more than that).
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 22, 2009, 04:53:24 PM
Would be interesting to see your log John.  Are the duplicates for aircraft showing FlightIDs, or for aircraft without FlightIDs?

I've just checked my report for today so far, and even with a timeout of 10 minutes, I'm seeing very few duplicates.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: colinhall on June 22, 2009, 05:44:29 PM
Tarbat, have just downloaded 3.0. I dont have any airport outlines. How do I get them on please. Colin.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EMA on June 22, 2009, 05:54:32 PM
Malc - I don't think it can be a wrong QFE or QNH - I had 1028 set, it's currently 1027 at EGLL - and anyway, the aircraft are showing very different altitudes from each other. Are you not getting this problem?

Rod

Rod

Just switched on the network flights and I have TCX211L at FL295 over EGNX going absolutley nowhere and it is shown as networked and in the cruise.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EGNXR on June 22, 2009, 05:54:58 PM
There seems to be a little gremlin in reporter today. See Attatched Screenshot:-(

Are you referring to 4007FF?  If so, then the aircraft set FlightID JCB2 at 8:01:34, change to a different FlightID BCY158C at 08:18:14, and then changed back to JCB2 at 08:18:17.  It then probably went out of range, and re-appeared after timeout as FlightID JCB2 at 08:27:39.

Looks correct to me.  Although the BCY158C flightID looks a bit strange, so may have been a false reception.  EDIT: In fact BCY158C was being used by 4007FD, so a false reception ( http://www.live-civil-mode-s.eu/search/popup.php?zoekstring=4007FD ).

What are your timeout settings?

Hi Tarbat,

Timeout set at 110/780 as per your previous suggestion. I just thought it very strange for JCB to be showing Cityjet callsign and route info. It seems strange the hex codes are so close as well for the aircraft involved.

Cheers John
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 22, 2009, 06:00:16 PM
Just switched on the network flights and I have TCX211L at FL295 over EGNX going absolutley nowhere and it is shown as networked and in the cruise.

This will happen if the local Radarbox receiving the aircraft has a long timeout setting.  This happened in v2.0 as well - I reported many months ago aircraft "hovering" at Aberdeen, and established that the local Radarbox had very long timeouts set.

Airnav, this really needs fixing.  The local timeout settings shouldn't affect how long an aircraft is shared on the network.

I just thought it very strange for JCB to be showing Cityjet callsign and route info. It seems strange the hex codes are so close as well for the aircraft involved.

Difference between the ModeS codes (4007FF & 4007FD) is just 1 bit - so probably a transmission/reception error.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EMA on June 22, 2009, 06:02:38 PM
Thanks Tarbat, I have never noticed this before but like you don't use the network that often.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EMA on June 22, 2009, 06:04:48 PM
TCX613L was tracked by Myflights landing at EGNX 10 mins ago and it is now showing networked at FL265 over EGNX.

I think I will switch the network off again :-)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: John Racars on June 22, 2009, 06:36:02 PM
Would be interesting to see your log John.  Are the duplicates for aircraft showing FlightIDs, or for aircraft without FlightIDs?

Hi Tarbat,

The file goes herewith as XLS. If you sort the list on "Callsign" you can see what happens and what I mean. I must short the file because it should be to big to sent.

[attachment deleted by admin]
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Canonjohns40D on June 22, 2009, 06:51:03 PM
Hi I got home about 3pmish and as I approached the radarbox it had a full set of lights flashing away at a merry old rate. I opened the screen to find it appeared to have frozen this morning around 9.55am UTC. So despite appearing to be running normally it had not recorded any aircraft from then until it was rebooted by me at 14.19 UTC.

Any thoughts please?

John
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 22, 2009, 06:51:29 PM
Sorry John, but I'm struggling to see what's wrong with your log.  I sorted by Registration, and then by Time.  What I see is several records for each aircraft, as it's FlightID changed throughout the day.

Remember, you'll be seeing a LOT more aircraft with FlightIDs in v3.0, now that non-ModeS aircraft have FlightIDs detected.

Perhaps if you can give one aircraft registration where you see incorrect duplicate records, rather than looking through all 5000 records!!
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: John Racars on June 22, 2009, 07:39:34 PM
Sorry John, but I'm struggling to see what's wrong with your log.  I sorted by Registration, and then by Time.  What I see is several records for each aircraft, as it's FlightID changed throughout the day.

Tarbat, I hoped you sorted the list by "Callsign". Herwith I sent send you some "highlighted" exemples from the list I sent. Hope you understand now.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: jmhayes on June 22, 2009, 07:51:29 PM
I send you some "highlighted" exemples from the list I sent.

http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=2893.msg26023#msg26023
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: John Racars on June 22, 2009, 07:58:26 PM
Thank you. I know about that but that is not my point at the moment. There is much more in the list to see about things that are not correct I think...
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 22, 2009, 08:01:47 PM
Tarbat, I hoped you sorted the list by "Callsign". Herwith I sent send you some "highlighted" exemples from the list I sent. Hope you understand now.

Okay, I see the problem, but I don't see the same problem in my logs.  Do your local timeouts definately still add up to 15mins?  Any chance the timeout settings didn't get saved?

In your SQL, you need to replace "SELECT" with "SELECT DISTINCT", and remove the line Flights.StartTime

This is the SQL I use for my daily report:
SELECT DISTINCT Aircraft.Registration AS "Reg"
Flights.Callsign AS "Flight ID"
Flights.Route AS "Route"
Aircraft.AircraftTypeSmall AS "ICAO Type"
Aircraft.Airline AS "Airline"
Aircraft.AircraftTypeLong AS "Aircraft"
substr(Flights.EndTime,1,16) AS "Flight Ended"
Flights.StartAltitude AS "Start Alt"
Flights.EndAltitude AS "End Alt"
Flights.MsgCount AS "Count"
Aircraft.ModeS AS "Mode S"
FROM Aircraft LEFT OUTER JOIN Flights ON (Aircraft.ModeS=Flights.ModeS)
WHERE ((date('now','-1 day') = substr(Aircraft.LastTime,1,4)||"-"||substr(Aircraft.LastTime,6,2)||"-"||substr(Aircraft.LastTime,9,2)) AND (Flights.StartTime IS NULL)) OR ((date('now','-1 day') = substr(Flights.EndTime,1,4)||"-"||substr(Flights.EndTime,6,2)||"-"||substr(Flights.EndTime,9,2))) OR ((date('now','-1 day') = substr(Flights.StartTime,1,4)||"-"||substr(Flights.StartTime,6,2)||"-"||substr(Flights.StartTime,9,2)))
ORDER BY Aircraft.Registration,Flights.EndTime,Aircraft.ModeS
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: f6gsg on June 22, 2009, 08:03:29 PM
Installation problem.

not exactly installation, the update was good but after update if i try to launch
another time RB, it's working hard (50% activity on processor activity only
for one processor) but never start. (waiting 2 hours ...)

re-update and launch directly is good !!!!
start again ... nothing. (only processor activity, no access to Hard disk).

i install RB 3.0 on another directory (c:/airnav/RB30/), copy my files (outlines, color ...)
and no problem. (multiple start)

it's only if i want to update my old directory (also on the root  c:/airnav/RB2009/).

Vista Pro pack 1/ intel core duo E8400 3.0 GHZ
Memory 4 Go / two display

Not a problem for me, but for people who want an update with their old
configuration and data ??

All test with ONLY RB and AVG !!! (and all the .à"ù$^'  Vista)

F6GSG
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: f6gsg on June 22, 2009, 08:22:15 PM
Small problem with Airlines filter

The combo box of th Airlines  filter is also empty (not the compagny selector display).

if i select compagny its OK but not memory of the old selection (as origin filter).

What is the mode of the list displayed, it's seeem not an Alphabetical list ????
OAG Worlwide before Air Atlantique ....

and so, not possible to fliter for Air France, because the filter use
AFR ....  Air France it's AF and more, it's of actuality with
the Rio Flight AF447.

is it possible to modifiy theses data ?

i'm now test the alerts....

F6GSG


Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: John Racars on June 22, 2009, 08:22:51 PM
Ok Tarbat, the SQL is now:

SELECT DISTINCT
  Flights.Route,
  Flights.Callsign,
  Flights.EndTime,
  Flights.ModeS,
  Flights.MsgCount,
  Flights.Registration,
  Flights.Session,
  Aircraft.Comment,
  Aircraft.LastTime,
  Aircraft.FirstTime,
  Aircraft.AircraftTypeLong,
  Aircraft.AircraftTypeSmall,
  Aircraft.Airline,
  Aircraft.ModeS,
  Aircraft.ModeSCountry,
  Aircraft.Registration,
  Aircraft.ADSB
FROM
 Flights
 LEFT OUTER JOIN Aircraft ON (Flights.ModeS=Aircraft.ModeS)
WHERE
  (Flights.StartTime LIKE '2009/06/21%')

The settings in "preferences>radarbox" are still 110 / 790

I run the new SQL; the result was the same as before.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Allocator on June 22, 2009, 08:25:49 PM
Small problem with Airlines filter

The combo box of th Airlines  filter is also empty (not the compagny selector display).

if i select compagny its OK but not memory of the old selection (as origin filter).

What is the mode of the list displayed, it's seeem not an Alphabetical list ????
OAG Worlwide before Air Atlantique ....

and so, not possible to fliter for Air France, because the filter use
AFR ....  Air France it's AF and more, it's of actuality with
the Rio Flight AF447.

is it possible to modifiy theses data ?

i'm now test the alerts....

F6GSG




Easy one :-)

Use Flight ID = AF*

You can type in the box, you don't have to use the drop down box, and you can use wildcards.

The crews should be entering AFR, but some only enter AF.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 22, 2009, 08:26:54 PM
Sorry John, I'm out of ideas.  Try running the SQL I provided in my last post.

Does the standard "TODAY" report in Radarbox show the same problem?  Have you been running with those timeout settings all yesterday and today?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: John Racars on June 22, 2009, 08:49:52 PM
Sorry John, I'm out of ideas.

No problem Tarbat! It is a very complex problem so it looks. Thank you very much for all the help anyway. Highly appreciated!!!

The "Standard Today" show the same problems; timeout settings are still the same: 110 / 790.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: f6gsg on June 22, 2009, 08:54:37 PM
Small problem with Airlines filter

The combo box of th Airlines  filter is also empty (not the compagny selector display).

if i select compagny its OK but not memory of the old selection (as origin filter).

What is the mode of the list displayed, it's seeem not an Alphabetical list ????
OAG Worlwide before Air Atlantique ....

and so, not possible to fliter for Air France, because the filter use
AFR ....  Air France it's AF and more, it's of actuality with
the Rio Flight AF447.

is it possible to modifiy theses data ?

i'm now test the alerts....

F6GSG




Easy one :-)

Use Flight ID = AF*

You can type in the box, you don't have to use the drop down box, and you can use wildcards.

The crews should be entering AFR, but some only enter AF.

Hi Allocator,

Effectively it's a solution (good one) ...

And now i see why my combo box was empty,
i must select a compagny and type enter to validate !!!!

So AF* is in memory

Many Thanks
F6GSG

Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: AirNav Support on June 22, 2009, 09:02:04 PM
Thanks everyone.

We are reading the posts so don't worry and making notes.

The network issue with aircraft staying in there current position with long timeouts is being looked out. Problem we may need everyone to upgrade to a new version to fully eliminate it.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: AirNav Development on June 22, 2009, 10:22:42 PM
This is a bug in V3.0 for flights that send position from ground. We are checking it right now.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: HadNav on June 22, 2009, 10:58:42 PM
Alerts don't work properly. I have set up to raise a 5nm range alert. I may get the first one but not any others. If I revert to 2.10, I get my usual number of in range alerts, approx 30 or more in 12 hours.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: AirNav Support on June 22, 2009, 11:20:17 PM
We are already aware of the alerts bug.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: John Racars on June 23, 2009, 01:40:59 PM
This is the SQL I use for my daily report:
SELECT DISTINCT Aircraft.Registration AS "Reg"
Flights.Callsign AS "Flight ID"
Flights.Route AS "Route"
Aircraft.AircraftTypeSmall AS "ICAO Type"
Aircraft.Airline AS "Airline"
Aircraft.AircraftTypeLong AS "Aircraft"
substr(Flights.EndTime,1,16) AS "Flight Ended"
Flights.StartAltitude AS "Start Alt"
Flights.EndAltitude AS "End Alt"
Flights.MsgCount AS "Count"
Aircraft.ModeS AS "Mode S"
FROM Aircraft LEFT OUTER JOIN Flights ON (Aircraft.ModeS=Flights.ModeS)
WHERE ((date('now','-1 day') = substr(Aircraft.LastTime,1,4)||"-"||substr(Aircraft.LastTime,6,2)||"-"||substr(Aircraft.LastTime,9,2)) AND (Flights.StartTime IS NULL)) OR ((date('now','-1 day') = substr(Flights.EndTime,1,4)||"-"||substr(Flights.EndTime,6,2)||"-"||substr(Flights.EndTime,9,2))) OR ((date('now','-1 day') = substr(Flights.StartTime,1,4)||"-"||substr(Flights.StartTime,6,2)||"-"||substr(Flights.StartTime,9,2)))
ORDER BY Aircraft.Registration,Flights.EndTime,Aircraft.ModeS

Hi Tarbat,

I just tried this SQL.

Information: "Invalid token "Fllights" at position 1 of line 2."
SQL Error: near "Flights": syntax error
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EGNXR on June 23, 2009, 02:02:01 PM
Hi All,

I just lost all my local traffic off the map and can't get it back. Just been to make a coffee and returned to the shot below. Any ideas?

John

edit :- Just rebooted RB and its all good again:-) Very Strange!
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: malc41 on June 23, 2009, 02:06:47 PM
Have you tried zooming in then zooming out again on the map?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EGNXR on June 23, 2009, 02:12:16 PM
Have you tried zooming in then zooming out again on the map?

Hi Malc41,

Yes zooming in and out had no effect, tried unchecking myflights on/off, removed filter settings and put back on. Had to reboot RB to get it back,

Cheers John
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: fatkat on June 23, 2009, 02:31:16 PM
ok a  little niggle about v3   

if you have polar plot on the map and take a screen shot .....on the subsequent image file the polar plot is missing ....

apologies in advance if everyone else has mentioned this .
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: malc41 on June 23, 2009, 02:33:56 PM
fatkat

rather its mentioned a couple of time, than get missed completely.

As the list grows its hard to keep track of what has been mentioned, maybe we could have a recap of niggles/problems Airnav?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: marcdeklerk on June 23, 2009, 02:42:53 PM
Yes, please give us a list of the reported problems, and future options
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: fatkat on June 23, 2009, 03:04:51 PM
yes each new user is going to find the same "faults " and report them ....

perhaps a list in a "sticky"  that people can refferer to ..with solutions if available  ...though I can understand any reluctance as it clearly shows problems to prospective purchasers and the other side !
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: AirNav Support on June 23, 2009, 03:07:16 PM
This is a beta so issues are expected otherwise it would not be a beta.

We will put an updated list up later.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: fatkat on June 23, 2009, 03:10:31 PM
sorry ...it was not a criticism   just a suggestion etc

while I'm at it ......

changing the colour of the active track on the selected a/c - happens on the map ok  but not in the height plot ....[didn't notice what happened in v2 ]

any suggestions? 
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: malc41 on June 23, 2009, 03:16:12 PM
Thanks Airnav

It will help us all and hopefully stop some re-posting of what has already been said

Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: DeeJay on June 23, 2009, 03:59:21 PM
Thanks Airnav for the 3.0,appreciate that it is a Beta, so playing all by ear for the moment, but I agree with some of the comments about fixes/intersections. They do seem to be too numerous, and possibly a mod to be able to differentiate between what I call ''master'' and ''sub-fixes'' might help. Regards
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Manuel Mendes on June 23, 2009, 05:45:35 PM
In relation to the fixes, I think we don't need those related to the DME distances.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: ACW367 on June 23, 2009, 07:38:34 PM
Airnav, A tiny one for you, a spelling mistake in the help menus. On the Maps Toolbars help page you have the following:

Resize

1- Hold down your right mouse button
2- Move your move to resize the map as desired

It should of course read move your mouse

Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: hungryasthesea on June 23, 2009, 08:00:28 PM
I lost all data sometime this afternoon as well while I was out.

My Log shows data until 13:48:37 today in the last time field.

When I came back in, my flights was totally blank and had to restart Radarbox. Once I did this, MY log started populating again.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: f6gsg on June 23, 2009, 08:11:14 PM
Perhaps me and not a bug...

i would like to change the Home name by my call (F6GSG),

in the preferences windows, in the Custom Legend List
i display:

F6GSG,43.7011,3.8468

That is my call and the exact position (available in Home Data panel),
(south of France).

And Nothing ... no display ? (and Home is well switch off)
i try another data, also nothing,
What's wrong ?

in my opinion, it will be better to have for separator the ; caracter  as the ,
to be compatible with the Home data Longitude/latitude coordonate).

F6GSG
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Allocator on June 23, 2009, 08:39:36 PM
Works for me.  Are you sure you have entered the correct position in decimal degrees?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: RodBearden on June 23, 2009, 08:54:53 PM
And have you turned on Map...Custom Legends?

Rod
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Allocator on June 23, 2009, 08:56:55 PM
I bet that's it :-)  I'm sure that this is on by default, but that would do the trick!
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: AirNav Support on June 23, 2009, 09:08:50 PM
Here is an update. These bugs have been confirmed (replicate them). If you think we have missed something important please give us a gentle nudge, there are lot of posts so its likely we have missed something.

Serious:

Some machines software does not start
Aircraft on map disappearing and returning with zoom

High:

359-000 degrees the vector of an airplane changes a direction for 180 degrees!
Timeout issues on the network causing aircraft to stay there for ages
Full screen and then return does not show map/aircraft
Duplicate Entries of flights in MyLog, required longer timeout or capabilty for user to change timeout
Check route alogrtithm and sometimes wrong routes are being displayed
Range alerts not working

Low

Company combo box not working
Font issue with commas and dots in custom legend
Filter to last ten minutes or one hour in MyLog Missing
No icon to resize interface window shown
Entries of closed maps in windows menu
Error message in preference menu
The 'execute a file' box is always ticked in alerts
text showing the aircraft details to the right of the photo of the aircraft is getting clipped
No up and down icons for Flights

Also the Vista64bit drivers and Too many fixes are being looked at.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: John Racars on June 23, 2009, 09:11:55 PM
And have you turned on Map...Custom Legends?

Hi Rod,

I did do so. In the Custom Legend List I write:  John Racars,52.3392,5.1924


Nothing happens on the map....
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: RodBearden on June 23, 2009, 09:15:06 PM
John and F6GSG - Can you check in Control Panel, Regional/International settings, that you have the period (full stop) as the decimal separator, and not a comma?

John - I just copied and pasted your legend entry direct into my system, and it displayed correctly - so you have done it right :-)

Rod
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: bailey_uk on June 23, 2009, 09:19:05 PM
My map colour scheme that ive exported and saved never seems to load up by default, even though its always the one thats used each time the programe is closed?

James
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Allocator on June 23, 2009, 09:19:42 PM
John,

Also check the color you have set in preferences for "Line of Sight" as this is also the color of the custom legends.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: RodBearden on June 23, 2009, 09:20:27 PM
James - I have that trouble too - a workround is to rename your default scheme as Real Radar - that is the scheme that it seems to want to keep going back to.

Rod
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: John Racars on June 23, 2009, 09:26:09 PM
John and F6GSG - Can you check in Control Panel, Regional/International settings, that you have the period (full stop) as the decimal separator, and not a comma?


Hi Rod,

You are genius! After doing as you recommanded  it is working with me!  Thank you for the help.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: bailey_uk on June 23, 2009, 09:29:15 PM
Ok Rod I'll try that - which will overwrite the Real Radar colours? (No big deal) Edit, ive just renamed that one Real Radar2 whilst I was at it.

I tried renaming it default.mcl a few days ago but with no change so hoping this will solve it, thanks.

James
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: John Racars on June 23, 2009, 09:37:36 PM
Also check the color you have set in preferences for "Line of Sight" as this is also the color of the custom legends.

Hi Allocator,

Thank you! All is working very well. Nice picture!
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Allocator on June 23, 2009, 09:56:55 PM
OK John, no problem - top marks to Rod for sorting this out :-)
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: RodBearden on June 23, 2009, 09:59:47 PM
It's a pleasure - but AirNav ought to take this one on board - as far as I know, no-one has to change control panel settings to get their Home position plotted, so we shouldn't need to do it for custom labels :-(

Rod
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: AirNav Support on June 23, 2009, 10:07:39 PM
Rod,

We were aware of this early on in this beast of a thread :)

http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=2893.msg25854#msg25854
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: RodBearden on June 23, 2009, 10:12:42 PM
Splendid - it's not on your recent bug list, though.

EDIT - or is that the "Font issue with commas and dots in custom legend" item?

Rod
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: AirNav Support on June 23, 2009, 10:17:58 PM
The Font issue is the one.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 23, 2009, 10:23:56 PM
My map colour scheme that ive exported and saved never seems to load up by default, even though its always the one thats used each time the programe is closed?

Check the registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\AirNav Systems\ANRB\1\General\MapColorpath

That's the colour scheme RB will use.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: ACW367 on June 23, 2009, 11:24:56 PM
One I raised in January that still appears unfixed on V3.0, looks like Airnav missed adding it to the fix list when doing this version.

http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=1928

New aircraft with pink in PT or LK do not download pictures on Airliners.net even when one or more are uploaded to that site. 

Todays examples I found were regulars with this problem for me in V2. Ryanair's EI-EBM and JetBlue N635JB and N637JB.

I first picked them up when no pics were on airliners.net, usually as they are delivered from the factory.  So I got the pink squares in PT & LK on my navdata.  Picked them up again today and it initially says 'downloading photo' followed by 'photo not available'.  But there is now photos on Airliners.net of this airframe that I should be able to download.   

If it has been missed and is too late to re-add to the list, I will append it to the V4 wishlist tab.

Cheers ACW367
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: ACW367 on June 23, 2009, 11:40:07 PM
Airnav,
A Low priority one that was raised earlier in the thread by another user at post #284 (page 19), that you missed off your list at reply #367

the '*' symbol not appearing in mylog report generator for aircraft picked up for the first time by a user.  I also experience this.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: freqhopping on June 24, 2009, 12:31:03 AM
Here is an update. These bugs have been confirmed (replicate them). If you think we have missed something important please give us a gentle nudge, there are lot of posts so its likely we have missed something.


Serious as far as I'm concerned after spending hours upon hours of entering correct information into database explorer.  Only to have it get written over when I receive a signal from that aircraft again when using 3.0 despite having auto-populate turned off.

http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=2893.msg25863#msg25863

http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=2893.msg25865#msg25865


It's obvious for the military aircraft since those are my focus.  It's not so obvious for corporate aircraft which I have corrected and don't log all that often or pays as much attention to.




As I found out upon returning home this weekend.  If I turn off the computer I have to hit F8 every time I start it in order to disable requiring digital driver signatures or else my RB won't work.

Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: jmhayes on June 24, 2009, 12:36:15 AM
Here is an update ...
So ... fixing port 30003 isn't on the list?
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EGNXR on June 24, 2009, 05:10:54 AM
One I raised in January that still appears unfixed on V3.0, looks like Airnav missed adding it to the fix list when doing this version.

http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=1928

New aircraft with pink in PT or LK do not download pictures on Airliners.net even when one or more are uploaded to that site. 

Todays examples I found were regulars with this problem for me in V2. Ryanair's EI-EBM and JetBlue N635JB and N637JB.

I first picked them up when no pics were on airliners.net, usually as they are delivered from the factory.  So I got the pink squares in PT & LK on my navdata.  Picked them up again today and it initially says 'downloading photo' followed by 'photo not available'.  But there is now photos on Airliners.net of this airframe that I should be able to download.   

If it has been missed and is too late to re-add to the list, I will append it to the V4 wishlist tab.

Cheers ACW367

Hi ACW367,

Problem highlighted in reply #61 of thread below. I believe its going to be a high priority once V3.0 is debugged. I'll add your thread to the ones I have listed in post #61 as the more info they have to work with the better.

http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=2885.msg26468#new

HTH John
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: markb on June 24, 2009, 05:12:50 AM
I have a question and a suggestion something that could be improved.  I'm trying to place my home location more precisely and am also adding my work location to the map, as I sometimes bring my RB with my laptop into work.  Why are the Lat/Lon displayed differently on the map (when the mouse pointer is on a specific spot) than what we would input for our location - either home or adding a location?  Can this be made to display in the same format.
It would be ideal to be able to point the mouse at a particular location and copy the lat/lon to the preferences.

Mark
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: fatkat on June 24, 2009, 05:54:43 AM
gentle nudge ......

issue of no polar plot in saved images ...

this is rather annoying when setting up an antena ..so as to compare it with previous position /setting /configuration

I have to use an external program to do this .....I'm certain its not just me that  used this facility on version two !

I can confirm that I also suffer from 75% of the listed faults [more likely all but I've not come across them yet !]

this is not a complaint !!!
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: abrad41 on June 24, 2009, 07:22:17 AM
Tarbat

Quote
Check the registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\AirNav Systems\ANRB\1\General\MapColorpath

That's the colour scheme RB will use.

Hello mate, I have checked mine, there is nothing in there after "MapColorpath.
If I right click on MapColorpath and then Modify and enter Default in the Value data field, Will this do the trick.

Cheers

Andy
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: GreekSpy2001 on June 24, 2009, 07:22:48 AM
hi

SImilar to V2.0 I am not getting 100% success on my alerts.  In particular Mode S based alerts using wildcards eg 43C*.  I also use registration based at the same time but I haven't noticed this not activating correctly.

Cheers


Graham
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 24, 2009, 07:24:50 AM
Andy, it needs to be the full path.  Mine says P:\AirNav Systems\AirNav RadarBox 2009\color\Default.mcl
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: colinhall on June 24, 2009, 07:26:06 AM
Tarbat, how do I get the airport outlines on  please, have downloaded the 3.0 but they didnt appear. Colin.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: abrad41 on June 24, 2009, 07:27:45 AM
Thank you tarbat

Great understand now

Andy
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: tarbat on June 24, 2009, 07:38:18 AM
Tarbat, how do I get the airport outlines on  please, have downloaded the 3.0 but they didnt appear. Colin.

Download them.  Put them in the Outlines folder.  Turn Outlines on in Radarbox (MENU - MAP - OUTLINES).  Outlines FAQ at http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=58.0
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: GreekSpy2001 on June 24, 2009, 08:04:29 AM
hi

SImilar to V2.0 I am not getting 100% success on my alerts.  In particular Mode S based alerts using wildcards eg 43C*.  I also use registration based at the same time but I haven't noticed this not activating correctly.

Cheers


Graham

OK now can confirm Alerts not working 100% for Registrations based alerts.  I can confirm I just saw SX-DVY flying over with no alert posted.  I can say, thinking about it, the amounts of alerts I get has decreased with v3.0.  This is a major issue for me and if its not going to be fixed soon I will definitely go back to version 2.0.  I use this feature heavily to alert me to look for a particular aircraft.

Has anyone else got this issue?

I am also having to run in Compatibility mode to get this version of v3.0 running.  Related?

Graham
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: dca on June 24, 2009, 08:18:01 AM
I know some of these points have been raised already but my comments on v3.0 Beta as follows...

-There are now far too many fixes that I now have to turn off this feature that previously I liked to have active

-Grid visible columns I would like to be able to order according to my preferences (maybe a feature request rather than a v3.0 observation)

-When moving cursor from the UK over the  English Channel local time is -1 hour.

- The zoom back & forward feature would be useful as a 'right click' perhaps even more so than + & -, particularly as this can be done with the + & - keys now

Otherwise so far it all works well & looks good, thanks to all involved in the development.

Dave
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: dca on June 24, 2009, 08:30:25 AM
Just one further point I have just turned on my network flights & zoomed in on LGW, the aircraft on the ground are displaying some strange flight levels for taxying! Please see the attached ss.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: malcdee2001 on June 24, 2009, 09:04:01 AM
Hi all.

Congrats to AirNav for their excellent prog.

I have a problem at the moment in as much as I can only use RB if I load it in each time!
Is this a known bug?
It will run after I have downloaded it, but if I shut the laptop down, when I start it up the prog will not start.
Any ideas

Thanks Malc
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Brimon on June 24, 2009, 09:14:17 AM
I seem to be getting a lot of stationery flights. Unless Easyjet are now using Harriers something is amiss.

Also having the problem with flight levels both on the ground & on approach.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: DaveReid on June 24, 2009, 09:32:43 AM
One of the issues that we were told would addressed in V3.0 - but hasn't been - was correct labelling of the Track and TAS columns in the MyFlights and Network lists.

See www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=1716.0

They are still incorrectly labelled Hdg and IAS.  Most RB users will be aware that these aren't the same thing, particularly IAS/TAS.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: titigti on June 24, 2009, 09:55:00 AM
hi

SImilar to V2.0 I am not getting 100% success on my alerts.  In particular Mode S based alerts using wildcards eg 43C*.  I also use registration based at the same time but I haven't noticed this not activating correctly.

Cheers


Graham

OK now can confirm Alerts not working 100% for Registrations based alerts.  I can confirm I just saw SX-DVY flying over with no alert posted.  I can say, thinking about it, the amounts of alerts I get has decreased with v3.0.  This is a major issue for me and if its not going to be fixed soon I will definitely go back to version 2.0.  I use this feature heavily to alert me to look for a particular aircraft.

Has anyone else got this issue?

I am also having to run in Compatibility mode to get this version of v3.0 running.  Related?

Graham
Hi,

yes same for me, alerts are not working good, (they never did)  if i do an alert for an squawk 7000 (EHRD) nothing happens  . Reg based or Mode S based also not working well.


Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: lambertw on June 24, 2009, 09:59:01 AM
Same here alerts not working at all.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: RodBearden on June 24, 2009, 10:09:57 AM
Reply to Mark

Once you have your location on the RB map, you can right-click it, and on the menu is the option to set it as your home location - even easier than you asked for :-)

Must admit I've never tried this myself, but I guess it works.

Rod
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: msteen on June 24, 2009, 10:43:01 AM
As some others in this thread, I also has some problems with alerts.
I only get the flight number, but not any info. Just like this.

Alert Time: 2009/06/24 09:36:34
Received Flight Number: SAS531

-
Alert Generated by AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
http://www.airnavsystems.com
-
Note: Replies to this e-mail will not be read.

In earlier versions, I also got information about the flight.
I saw this was mentioned earlier in this thread too.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: colinhall on June 24, 2009, 12:16:56 PM
Tarbat, sorry to be a pain. The ANRB I downloaded was 2007 so do I just go straight to the download of 2009? The pc I bought is a Compacq £499.99 and its 64 bit. My last one was 32 bit. Will this make any differance to the download?.Colin
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: abrad41 on June 24, 2009, 04:10:19 PM
Seems Like I am loosing Records from Navdata.db3.

I transfered my Navdata.db3 file from V2.10 to the new V3.0 - This had 7771 records in it, I ran it last night for about 1.30 hrs and now I only have 6621 records. Whats going on here, am I missing something, thought it should be adding records, not taking them away.

Andy
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Rural Outpost on June 24, 2009, 07:28:33 PM
Since down loading the new update I am getting a broken purle line flying along rather than an aircraft ? It isnearly always the nearest aircraft to me, with all the others showing as normal. Is there a something I have done which I shouldn't have ? I would be grateful for any help in laymans terms.

Rural Outpost
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: John Racars on June 24, 2009, 07:37:24 PM
Hi All,

It is difficult to believe and I take the risk that you all explain me for fool. But I would like to you report:

This evening I started to uninstall all previous versions of RB, the last new version 3.0 include. There after I made a new install of 3.0 and, ofcourse, restored my backups op Logo's, MyLog.db3 and NavData.db3.

I start the program and all looks working without any problem and smooth.

I look at the map where the flight are enroute. There was also KLM flight 553 from EHAM to HECA on the map. This aircraft, B777 PH-BQN, was around the Dutch-German border.

Then, suddenly, I saw this:

the flightid KLM553 changed into KLM461 for a second, there after in KLM553, there after in KLM461 and there after again in KLM553.  There after this aircraft disappeared from my screen because it was then out of my area of reception. This all happend in a some seconds.

Hard to believe, but true! Anyone else saw things like this?





Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: John Racars on June 24, 2009, 08:03:45 PM
Later on this evening I saw again a wrong flight info on the map.

KLM1632 gives EHAM-ENGM as route-information.

Should be (and also correct in the RB Route database)

LIMC-EHAM.

Now I hope support is totally known my problems of the last week I reported. I will stop this now and will wait and see or, and when, the problems are solved.

As said before, it is incomprehensible for me why this was not in presume versions of RB; there was all going "normal" as far as I could see...
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: f6gsg on June 24, 2009, 08:35:46 PM
To rod,

About F6GSG=HOME location,

Thank you, it's in the pannel configuration, i must change , by . and i have
my call displayed !!!!


BUT, now this is my ICOM PCR1500 receiver who's not OK ,because all
the frequency list are with the , separator !!!!!

i confirm, Alerts not run well.

Thanks for your help.
F6GSG
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: RodBearden on June 24, 2009, 09:08:37 PM
F6GSG - I hope it hasn't messed up other things, like spreadsheets, too!

AirNav have this listed as a bug to fix, though only with low priority. For now, you will have to decide whether your PCR 1500 is more important than custom legends!

Rod
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: AllanK on June 24, 2009, 10:12:22 PM
Here is an update. These bugs have been confirmed (replicate them).
Serious:
Some machines software does not start
In my excitement i downloaded the upgrade to find that I also suffered the incompatibility problem (ie radarbox completely unusable!) - I then tried the full beta install - still broken.

Thanks to Spaice (very many thanks!) the change to windows 98/Me compatibility quickly had me back up and running.  However I had to read 28 pages of this thread and would like to suggest that support post a sticky about the beta to advise users to use the full install (as it goes by default into a new directory) to confirm operation and then (perhaps)  apply the upgrade.

I saw a post (among many) that support requested all posts into this thread but I really do think that for the end users' benefit a new (sticky) post will prevent many users encountering a broken install (and the bad feeling that leaves)

just my thoughts.
--
Allan

off to evaluate 3 beta now it is working in 98/me mode on XP SP3
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EMA on June 25, 2009, 07:18:03 AM
Since down loading the new update I am getting a broken purle line flying along rather than an aircraft ? It isnearly always the nearest aircraft to me, with all the others showing as normal. Is there a something I have done which I shouldn't have ? I would be grateful for any help in laymans terms.

Rural Outpost

This is an issue with Beta3 which will be fixed when the beta update is released.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EK01 on June 25, 2009, 09:56:07 AM
Since down loading the new update I am getting a broken purle line flying along rather than an aircraft ? It isnearly always the nearest aircraft to me, with all the others showing as normal. Is there a something I have done which I shouldn't have ? I would be grateful for any help in laymans terms.

Rural Outpost

This is an issue with Beta3 which will be fixed when the beta update is released.

As mentioned this is a known issue. Will be glad to see it fixed as it kind of defeats the purpose of the RB in identifying what is there. In the meantime when you see the broken purple line, zoom in the map and back out again and the aircraft details should appear. You may be surprised at the number of 'missing' aircraft which suddenly 'reappear'. A pure pain.

Cheers
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EMA on June 25, 2009, 01:24:29 PM
Since down loading the new update I am getting a broken purle line flying along rather than an aircraft ? It isnearly always the nearest aircraft to me, with all the others showing as normal. Is there a something I have done which I shouldn't have ? I would be grateful for any help in laymans terms.

Rural Outpost

This is an issue with Beta3 which will be fixed when the beta update is released.

As mentioned this is a known issue. Will be glad to see it fixed as it kind of defeats the purpose of the RB in identifying what is there. In the meantime when you see the broken purple line, zoom in the map and back out again and the aircraft details should appear. You may be surprised at the number of 'missing' aircraft which suddenly 'reappear'. A pure pain.

Cheers

I have tested a fix for this bug and it does work although I don't think it will be a temporary patch and with be rolled in to the next beta 3 update.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: golf on June 25, 2009, 03:50:49 PM
Hi all.

Congrats to AirNav for their excellent prog.

I have a problem at the moment in as much as I can only use RB if I load it in each time!
Is this a known bug?
It will run after I have downloaded it, but if I shut the laptop down, when I start it up the prog will not start.


Thanks Malc


Hi Malc have got the same problem. Tried various combinations of uninstall reinstall but cannot get v3.0 to start after program is closed.. Back to v2.01 for now. Maybe have to go into registry and completely remove everything from AirNav and start again. Any ideas out there? Cheers Pete
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: malcdee2001 on June 25, 2009, 04:01:44 PM
Hi Pete,

Try loading the programme as instructed in FAQ

www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=1570.0

This works for me, at the moment.

Malc
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: Rural Outpost on June 25, 2009, 05:39:38 PM
EK01

Thanks for the reply. I await the update to fix it.

Regards
Rural Outpost
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: pwfu on June 25, 2009, 06:04:59 PM
Just installed, well been trying for the last hour and finally got my XP machine to run it in 89/ME compatibility mode

Was dissapointed not to see the ability to remove the METAR / TAF boxes from Smart view that I raised a few months ago
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: EK01 on June 25, 2009, 06:31:39 PM
Since down loading the new update I am getting a broken purle line flying along rather than an aircraft ? It isnearly always the nearest aircraft to me, with all the others showing as normal. Is there a something I have done which I shouldn't have ? I would be grateful for any help in laymans terms.

Rural Outpost

This is an issue with Beta3 which will be fixed when the beta update is released.

As mentioned this is a known issue. Will be glad to see it fixed as it kind of defeats the purpose of the RB in identifying what is there. In the meantime when you see the broken purple line, zoom in the map and back out again and the aircraft details should appear. You may be surprised at the number of 'missing' aircraft which suddenly 'reappear'. A pure pain.

Cheers

I have tested a fix for this bug and it does work although I don't think it will be a temporary patch and with be rolled in to the next beta 3 update.

The sooner the better. I'm tempted to return to version 2 !

Ian
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: f6gsg on June 25, 2009, 08:51:19 PM
Alerts problem,

Here a screen shot of alerts problem, may be help Air nav.

http://www.lesaunier.com/images/alert_01.jpg (http://www.lesaunier.com/images/alert_01.jpg)

I want to "track" a specific flight AF684ZA and the postal flight FP*
so no problem for the postal (FP0748) there is an alert, but nothing
for AF684ZA who is in the same time on the screen ????

What's wrong ? Bug or it's me about definition of alert ?
There are in the same box Flight ID

F6GSG
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: f6gsg on June 25, 2009, 09:05:23 PM
Alerts .. the return !!!

And now there is the two another postal Flight FP704 and FP0720 from
Marseille and Lyon and NO ALERTS !!!!

i want to see if theses flights are in my log, i select last 10 minutes and last
hour and .... NO FLIGHT, i have NO FLIGHT (FP* or other one) in my log ????

And in Today, there is flights but not the FP and the AF684ZA ????

I really don't understand (i have also display my log for a day, not test
for 10 minutes ....)

F6GSG
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: CowboyNut on June 25, 2009, 11:58:45 PM
Any update when it's going be release around the 25th ?

Quote
AirNav Development
PS: we will try to have a new exe ready by Jun 25.
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: HadNav on June 26, 2009, 12:46:06 AM
F6GSG Airnav are aware of the alerts issue with v3 beta. It's in their high priority fix list.

I have gone back to 2.01.
V3 Beta is too flakey for me at the moment. It needs a major update!
The closed beta test obviously didn't work!

Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: radarspotter10 on June 26, 2009, 01:00:56 AM
F6GSG Airnav are aware of the alerts issue with v3 beta. It's in their high priority fix list.

I have gone back to 2.01.
V3 Beta is too flakey for me at the moment. It needs a major update!
The closed beta test obviously didn't work!



i would agree with you the closed beta was no good, i was very surprised at the outcome.
but there's a hell of a lot of effort being put in by forum members at the moment, in the beta testing.
and i know airnav have said its what they want, it should  work out for the best in the end up.

from pat
Title: Re: RELEASED - AirNav RadarBox 2009 - 3.0 Beta
Post by: AirNav Development on June 28, 2009, 11:52:26 AM
This topic is now locked due to its size.
We have created a new topic to continue the discussion on V3.0 Beta.
Only problem reports will be accepted on this new topic.

The link is:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=2958.new#new