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Title: 1000 up
Post by: Canonjohns40D on May 14, 2009, 10:30:39 PM
Hi just had to post this in the current 24 hour period from midnight (UTC) last night to just now 22.26 (UTC) I have logged 1000 aircraft.

The RB is running presently 24/7 and I have been getting high 900s but this is the first 1000. Sorta makes up for the disappointing Leeds result..

John
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: ACW367 on May 14, 2009, 11:02:47 PM
John that is great result considering you only really get Ireland bound and transatlantic flights.  You have to remember that you will have logged around 3x more individual flights because of multiple sectors flown by individual aircraft.  Your numbers will jump when the reporter on the new version 2.1 showing each of those individual flight sectors.

The NATS statistics say that the London area control region handles around 7000 airways flights a day in total throughout the UK. There are seasonal variations but we are now on the Summer timetable. Obviously there are more transponder equipped military and GA flights not included in the stats.

http://www.nats.co.uk/article/216/254/flights_through_uk_airspace_continue_to_fall.html

In London we are very lucky and have the main North/South and East/West airways crossing right over our heads and traffic from 4 major airports. Consequently we can get up to 2000 aircraft a day.  With these boxes its all about Location, Location, Location.
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: Canonjohns40D on May 14, 2009, 11:11:20 PM
Cheers ACW I think it's great. As you say for this particular location i have to make do with what I can and believe me i really enjoyed seeing the 1000 mark hit for the first time.

John
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: imropes on May 15, 2009, 03:24:01 PM
I ran mine for17 hrs tue (0300-2000) and logged 1300+. I am 20 mls east of PoleHill and have good line of sight to west and south east. Using the rb supplied antenna low in loft. Can go up about another two foot (length of coax) Happy with this for time being!
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: Squad 701 on May 29, 2009, 11:02:46 PM
1593 recorded in my log today, from 05.13-23.55
The interesting fact about this is not the amount,
but it is the first time the Radarbox has stayed on all day,
without regularly getting disconnected, which happens at least 3-4 times a day.
I've made no changes to any of my settings, hopefully it will stay this way.
Cheers.
Squad 701
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: John Racars on May 30, 2009, 09:14:26 AM
Hi All,

When my RB is running 24hrs a day, round 1.500 loggings is verry normal in that case. I am positioned near EHAM - Netherlands.
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: Squad 701 on May 30, 2009, 10:12:31 AM
Hi John,
It was just great to see my Radarbox staying on all day to achieve this figure.
Dublin is nowhere as busy as Amsterdam, which is more of an international-hub,
so I won't be beating any records there :-)
I tried again today to leave it running, but already it has disconnected from the USB twice,
so back to old times again.
Cheers.
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: daveg4otu on May 30, 2009, 10:14:59 AM
Yesterday - with box running from 0700 to 0930   then from 11.15 to  2145 the total here was 1869.

Have not yet tried a 24 hour run but I'd guess I could pass the 2000 mark(certainly on a weekday when there is appreciable military activity). Antenna is on a biscuit tin on flat roof  about 12 feet agl. House is about 400 feet amsl right on the coast.
"Visibilty" is mostly to the North  & East(200-300 miles)   as rising high ground limits range to the West(40 miles ) and South(60-70miles).
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: Squad 701 on May 30, 2009, 10:21:09 AM
Hi daveg4otu,
They certainly are some great figures, you should go for the 2000.
Set down the challenge to others :-)
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: John Racars on May 30, 2009, 10:29:29 AM
Hi All,

It is a long time ago that I was running my RB 24hrs a day. So I will do this the next coming days to see what the number of logs is in this days.
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: malc41 on May 30, 2009, 11:14:31 AM
The challenge is on ;-)
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: GlynH on May 30, 2009, 02:46:17 PM
I love a challenge and hate to brag (yeah...right :-) but MyLog has reported 2222 so far today and its not even four o'clock in the afternoon yet...

Regards,
-=Glyn=-
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: Terry on May 30, 2009, 02:58:40 PM
Hi Glyn,
           I see your up for the challenge,mines been on since 12-00 noon and i`ve got 1477,but i`m not up for the challenge as you will crucify(hope the spellings right) me on this one buddy.

 Terry.
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: John Racars on May 30, 2009, 02:59:19 PM
Hi All,

I am not prepared to say but this is my intermediate score:

Generated at 2009-05-30 14:52:27 UTC
Valid for 2009-05-30
2041 Aircraft Logged

I started RB round 08:30 UTC this day.
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: freqhopping on May 30, 2009, 03:03:32 PM
2865 is the most individual aircraft I have logged in a day.  Just leaving it on for the evening hours is enough to get over 1000.  Mine only stays connected for 24 hours if I get lucky.  Usually five minutes after I walk out the door in the morning it disconnects.

I live under some really busy airspace.
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: tarbat on May 30, 2009, 03:24:18 PM
I feel so inadequate.   My RB is on from 7am untill 11pm everyday, and the most I get in my log is around 350 :(  Where are you all located to get 2000+ per day?
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: GlynH on May 30, 2009, 03:51:13 PM
Inadequate? I don't think so Chris...I'd trade some of your aircraft/RB/SQL knowledge for any number of my 2500+ aircraft anyday! :-)

I am based slap-bang in the middle of England - Banbury, Oxfordshire to be precise.


Regards,
-=Glyn=-
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: daveg4otu on May 30, 2009, 04:11:33 PM
Will have a 24 hour run on Monday as away for the day tomorrow.

At the moment today (0700-1700- with an hour out for PC maintenance) =1556.

Law of diminishing returns mean that the first hours are always going to be the most numerically  productive as the count is aircraft not flights.

Today has been  a good day for military so far(for a weekend)  - with Canadian, French, Greek,Irish and Omani  flights as well as the usual USAF and RAF/RN/AAC.

Latest polar diagram attached
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: DaveReid on May 30, 2009, 04:45:16 PM
Totals for yesterday 29/5:

Distinct Mode S codes: 2392
Flights: 5953

It helps living high up, close to LHR and directly under UL9  :-)
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: John Racars on May 30, 2009, 07:23:41 PM
Hi All

my intermediate score:

Generated at 2009-05-30 19:18:26 UTC
Valid for 2009-05-30
2445 Aircraft Logged

As told before:
I started RB round 08:30 UTC this day.
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: Squad 701 on May 30, 2009, 07:36:48 PM
Some very impressive high scores there, I reckon theres lots of Radarbox-Envy going on. We may have to split this into regional and local area finals  :-)
2500 for the UK
2000 for Ireland
3000 for Holland (sorry John :-)

Cheers

PS - No gambling allowed on this site ;-)
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: daveg4otu on May 30, 2009, 07:58:16 PM
Might be  nice if - when publishing a 24 hour score -  posters include a polar diagram and brief details of  antenna and  location (height above sea level  in feet or metres)
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: John Racars on May 30, 2009, 09:13:41 PM
3000 for Holland (sorry John :-)

No problem ofcourse! I thought this competition was during this day, so until 00:00. I must miss some. My PC is ON from now so will hear RB all the time. I will report tomorow about my results.
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: CoastGuardJon on May 30, 2009, 09:33:53 PM
I feel so inadequate. 

Hi tarbat, having taken semen samples form horses and bulls, I know just what you mean!!!
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: John Racars on May 31, 2009, 08:28:00 AM
Hi All,

Final result of yesterday, Saturday, may 30th 2009 from 08:30 - 23:59 UTC:

1747 Aircraft Logged.

If you are interested in this log, please let me know and I will sent it to you.

intermediate score of today, may 31th 2009 started at 00:00 UTC until sofar:

1197 Aircraft Logged.
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: GlynH on May 31, 2009, 06:20:41 PM
There's certainly some willy-waving going on in here...so here goes some more! ;^)

OK...I had logged in excess of 2600 aircraft for the day although the total was dropping by the time I took the screenshot.

Strange really as it was just before midnight UK time so just before 11:pm UTC...I would have thought that the totals should not have changed until midnight UTC - why does it do that anyway?

It seems to me that if I want to look at my log for yesterdays totals I should see just that - not yesterdays totals minus those aircraft that have been seen again today...does anyone know if this behaviour will change in v2.10 or has it been designed to stay that way?

A couple of screenshots attached - the first from MyLog after the totals were on the way down and the second my polar diagram just taken.

I am based in Banbury, Oxfordshire and have a Watson 1090MHz antenna on the top of a 17 foot pole on the gable end of my house which is @460 feet a.s.l.

This is connected to my Radarbox via 15m Westflex 103 and a rather dodgy looking, home made N plug->N socket->N plug joint (to replace the pathetic PL259 originally fitted by Wally & Standoff) in the loft to another 5m length of W103 into my computer room and into a short N Type->SMA pigtail.

Would be nice to make a direct N type connection into the RadarBox - has anyone ever 'upgraded' the SMA socket on their RadarBox out of interest?

Regards,
-=Glyn=-
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: John Racars on May 31, 2009, 06:35:52 PM
Hi Glyn,

In the past I made often remarks to support about this item "reports". I also had my objections about the exactness about the reports.

When I see "My log" of this day there are lots of records incorrect or incomplete. But as I said before: I reported this to support in the past. Nothing has been done until sofar; maybe (and hopefully) in a next version this will be solved.
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: malc41 on May 31, 2009, 06:40:42 PM
Are away days included, must find somewhere that improves on my 600 ish a day!!
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: AirNav Support on May 31, 2009, 06:42:33 PM
John,

Have a read of

http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=2395.0
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: TedLoon on May 31, 2009, 08:30:54 PM
hi all
         i have about 750 logged from 04.00 to 21.30 on sunday,,, not bad for a pretty poor polar diagramme
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: Squad 701 on May 31, 2009, 10:51:19 PM
Hi Glyn,
Your officially an A-Lister now.
You passed the 2500 mark by 16.
I bow my hat to you :-)
Your the Man.

Have to agree with you on the Midnight UTC thing,
very annoying, roll on version 2.1
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: John Racars on June 01, 2009, 07:48:39 AM
Hi All,

Here the results of my 24 hrs listening yesterday, may 31th. I do not believe this numbers are reliable. This because the "strange" reporting of "My Log":

yesterdays intermediate scores:

09:38 - 1197 Aircraft Logged;
18:20 - 2747 Aircraft Logged;
18:38 - 2769 Aircraft Logged;
23:11 - 2886 Aircraft Logged;

Now when I get the total report of yesterday "My Log" says:

2092 Aircraft Logged. Unbelievable.

I think there is for the time being no sense to make reports like this any more; it should be made better in next coming version(s).

Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: AirNav Support on June 01, 2009, 08:15:13 AM
John,

This has been explained dozens of times now. Please read our message earlier in this thread regarding it.
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: John Racars on June 01, 2009, 08:36:06 AM
This has been explained dozens of times now. Please read our message earlier in this thread regarding it.
OK Support, thank you and verry sorry for the inconvenience,

I will do as you recommend in this message (using the SQLite software):

http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=2395.msg20129#msg20129
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: John Racars on June 01, 2009, 09:19:37 AM
Hi All,

Now I have analysed "MyLog" > "Flights"-database with the beautiful SQLite software. This becomes an impressiv new number of logs.

I filtered out the records of yesterday that gives this result:

Sunday, may 31th 2009 from 00:00 - 23:59 UTC: 4273 Aircraft Logged.

If you are interested in the list, please let me know and I will sent it to you.
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: John Racars on June 01, 2009, 09:41:35 AM
Hi Support,

Any chance that "Aircrafttype" will displayed in the "MyLog" > "Flights" table in the next new coming version(s) as well?
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: tarbat on June 01, 2009, 10:51:20 AM
John,

Aircrafttype is in the Aircraft table, so just do a " LEFT OUTER JOIN Aircraft ON (Flights.ModeS=Aircraft.ModeS)" to join the tables, and you can then pull data from the Aircraft table as well.
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: John Racars on June 01, 2009, 11:10:55 AM
Thank you Tarbat!

I will give it a try the next coming hours!
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: John Racars on June 01, 2009, 11:59:08 AM
Aircrafttype is in the Aircraft table, so just do a " LEFT OUTER JOIN Aircraft ON (Flights.ModeS=Aircraft.ModeS)" to join the tables, and you can then pull data from the Aircraft table as well.

Hi Tarbat,

I did not have any succes with this until sofar. Can you, or some other SQL specialist, give me the SQLite syntaxes for this routine?

Thank you in advance!
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: tarbat on June 01, 2009, 12:03:04 PM
SELECT 
  Flights.Route,
  Flights.Callsign,
  Flights.EndTime,
  Flights.ModeS,
  Flights.MsgCount,
  Flights.Registration,
  Flights.Session,
  Flights.StartTime,
  Flights.StartPosition,
  Flights.EndPosition,
  Flights.StartAltitude,
  Flights.EndAltitude,
  Flights.StartGS,
  Flights.EndGS,
  Aircraft.Comment,
  Aircraft.LastTime,
  Aircraft.FirstTime,
  Aircraft.AircraftTypeLong,
  Aircraft.AircraftTypeSmall,
  Aircraft.Airline,
  Aircraft.ModeS,
  Aircraft.ModeSCountry,
  Aircraft.Registration,
  Aircraft.ADSB
FROM
 Flights
 LEFT OUTER JOIN Aircraft ON (Flights.ModeS=Aircraft.ModeS)
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: John Racars on June 01, 2009, 12:17:51 PM
Thank you verry much Tarbat!

No succes yet: SQL Error: near "LEFT": syntax error

Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: tarbat on June 01, 2009, 12:26:09 PM
Strange, works okay for me.

Can you post the SQL you're using.
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: John Racars on June 01, 2009, 12:34:47 PM
Can you post the SQL you're using.

I am using SQLiteMaestro version 8.11.0.1
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: malc41 on June 01, 2009, 12:38:51 PM
Shouldn't make any difference that is what I use as well?
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: tarbat on June 01, 2009, 12:58:24 PM
I am using SQLiteMaestro version 8.11.0.1

Okay, I also use SQLite Maestro.   Query should look something like this in Maestro.

Post the SQL you're using, and we can maybe see what's going wrong for you.
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: John Racars on June 01, 2009, 01:20:26 PM
Hi Tarbat, Hi Malc,

BINGO!!!!! Thank you both verry much for all the help. It is all succeed now.

Thanks again!
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: John Racars on June 01, 2009, 03:39:02 PM
And herewith the result of this all. The file is Zipped in XLS-format.

[attachment deleted by admin]
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: Squad 701 on June 01, 2009, 04:11:34 PM
Congratulations John, you are now the top lister in the Netherlands,
and maybe even Europe :-)
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: John Racars on June 01, 2009, 04:23:32 PM
Congratulations John, you are now the top lister in the Netherlands,
and maybe even Europe :-)

Thank you Squad but I do not think so. I think there are much more places in Europe (like EGLL) where much more can be "catched" then in my area of reception....:-)
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: daveg4otu on June 02, 2009, 07:26:27 AM
Yesterday(Monday )- 24 hours  =1849 individual aircraft(including 48 mil ).
 
Mondays are noticably not as busy as Thursdays/Fridays.
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: John Racars on June 02, 2009, 03:32:53 PM
Hi All,

Yesterday (Monday, June 1st) - 24 hours  = 3731 aircraft-movings logged.

Note: yesterday RB was stoped by me several times because of PC maintenance.

If you are interested in the list, please let me know and I will sent it to you.
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: GlynH on June 02, 2009, 08:25:34 PM
Hi Glyn,
Your officially an A-Lister now.
You passed the 2500 mark by 16.
I bow my hat to you :-)
Your the Man.

Have to agree with you on the Midnight UTC thing,
very annoying, roll on version 2.1

Hey thanks for that Squad 701,

Checked yesterday @ 9:00pm local time yesterday evening and saw it had recorded 2668 aircraft for the day and as I write this MyLog is showing 2605 so far today.

There might even be a Chinook in there somewhere as I received a text from Terry telling me had logged his first one today but I haven't looked yet...too much work to do :-(

Kind regards,
-=Glyn=-
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: John Racars on June 03, 2009, 04:07:53 PM
Hi All,

Yesterday (Thuesday, June 2nd) - 24 hours  = 4107 aircraft-movings logged.

If you are interested in the list, please let me know and I will sent it to you.
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: GlynH on June 03, 2009, 04:48:15 PM
Hi All,

Yesterday (Thuesday, June 2nd) - 24 hours  = 4107 aircraft-movings logged.

If you are interested in the list, please let me know and I will sent it to you.

Hi John,

That's a hell of a total...can I just clarify that you are talking about 4107 individual & distinct Mode-S aircraft recorded and not including any multiple flights for those same aircraft?

Thanks & regards,
-=Glyn=-
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: John Racars on June 03, 2009, 06:42:39 PM
That's a hell of a total...

Hi Glyn,

This is the total of ALL the hits made to RB in 24h and also where logged in "MyLog". The selection critirium for my report is "Starttime" with the selected date "Like" the date of yesterday. So, when an a/c was heard by my RB more then one time a day (p.e. in my case much KLM a/c) in different flights, all that different flights are included. That is why I am talking about "aircraft-movings" and NOT about "individuel logs".

You can see that in my attached file from last Sunday. If you sort this file on "Callsign" and "Regi" you will see the results of what I mean and see that one Regi made more than one flight that day.

I hope I made my self clear to you, if not please ask again and I will give it an other try.

Thank you for your interest!
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: GlynH on June 03, 2009, 07:06:20 PM
Ahhh...that would explain the high totals then John...

All of my postings have been for individual & unique Mode-S aircraft recorded - not total aircraft movements - ie. just the one record for that aircraft in a day no matter how many flights it has recorded.

By way of comparison what would be your total be for individual/unique aircraft in a day then John?

Also is there an easy way for me to tell how many aircraft movements I have seen in a 24 hour period without resorting to any 3rd party tools to do the job?

Thanks & regards,
-=Glyn=-
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: John Racars on June 03, 2009, 07:30:56 PM
By way of comparison what would be your total be for individual/unique aircraft in a day then John?

Also is there an easy way for me to tell how many aircraft movements I have seen in a 24 hour period without resorting to any 3rd party tools to do the job?

Hi Glyn,

1. I am not sure about that but, ofcourse in my case, much lower.

2. I have no idea or this report can be made with RB; in my case I made reports with the help of the beautifull SQL-software what gives me verry much possibillities to make my own specifeid reports.

If Tarbat or an other SQL-specialist is listening to this I would ask to them or there is a SQL-syntax for making such a report as you mean. Also to remove all doubles of registrations and Mode-S codes in one report.
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: tarbat on June 03, 2009, 09:10:18 PM
If Tarbat or an other SQL-specialist is listening to this I would ask to them or there is a SQL-syntax for making such a report as you mean. Also to remove all doubles of registrations and Mode-S codes in one report.


http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=2190.msg18924#msg18924
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: John Racars on June 03, 2009, 09:25:35 PM
Thanks again Tarbat!

I will try this out tomorrow and report on this how the things are gone!
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: GlynH on June 03, 2009, 09:54:07 PM
By way of comparison what would be your total be for individual/unique aircraft in a day then John?

Hi Glyn,

1. I am not sure about that but, ofcourse in my case, much lower.

Hi John,

Well that's got to be the easiest thing to do...hell even I can do it! ;^)

Just open MyLog, select Today and see how many aircraft have been recorded!

Mine is showing 2756 for today so far (22:50 local - 21:50 UTC) so it should increase a little before it 'rolls' over into tomorrow.

Kind regards,
-=Glyn=-
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: John Racars on June 04, 2009, 04:58:57 PM
Hi Glyn,

In that case for Jun 2nd: 1137 unique a/c recorded.
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: malc41 on June 04, 2009, 05:16:20 PM
Stop it John, you're making me jealous :0)
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: GlynH on June 04, 2009, 10:28:15 PM
Hi John,

I must get round to using a 3rd party program to run queries on my database sometime soon.

Just took a look at MyLog for today and see the total is ramping up slightly towards the weekend - 2763 individual & unique aircraft codes today so far.

Regards,
-=Glyn=-

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Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: John Racars on June 05, 2009, 08:09:35 AM
Hi Glyn,

With all the respect of the developers, today I do still absolute not understand what the reports from RB's MyLog "Today" us tell.

Now I see that my exemple of June 2nd falls from 1137 yesterday to 911 this morning...
Maybe they explaned this dozens of times in the past, I still do not understand it.

As you know I am interested in a report that shows me ALL the movements in one day in my area of reception in the first place which report contents the items I like personally. I found that thanks the help of Tarbat using SQL-queries AND Tarbat's developed "report.htm".

I can recommend you to become an SQL-user as well. With the help of this beautifull software you can make allmost every report using the AirNavRB DB3 databases you like.

If you have any question or problem with SQL-syntaxes or so: on this forum there is enough expertise like Tarbat to give you some help. On the WWW there are sites with lots of information about SQL as well. Google "SQL" and you will see.
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: tarbat on June 05, 2009, 08:19:54 AM
With all the respect of the developers, today I do still absolute not understand what the reports from RB's MyLog "Today" us tell.

Now I see that my exemple of June 2nd falls from 1137 yesterday to 911 this morning...

The date recorded for an aircraft in MyLog is the MOST RECENT date.  So, if an aircraft was logged yesterday, and also logged today, it will not appear on Yesterday's log anymore.  v2.10 promises to fix this by creating a FLIGHT record for every aircraft flight, even where the aircraft is not transmitting a Flight ID.  Reports can then be driven from the Flight Date, rather than the aircraft's last seen date.
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: John Racars on June 05, 2009, 08:33:33 AM
Aha.................

Tarbat, thank you verry much for your explanation! It is clear to me now what the interpretation of the "MyLog - Today"-report should be.
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: malc41 on June 05, 2009, 08:48:57 AM
Thanks also Tarbat

Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: John Racars on June 05, 2009, 10:54:18 AM
Hi Tarbat,

I have a question about the SQL-syntax below: how get I aircraft NOT with ADSB equipped in this generated report? I mean older aircraft like BAW's G-DOC. series or KLM's older B737 series. This a/c apears on the RB interface but I don't see them back in the report below.

Hope I made my self clear and thank you in advance!

SELECT
  Flights.Route,
  Flights.Callsign,
  Flights.EndTime,
  Flights.ModeS,
  Flights.MsgCount,
  Flights.Registration,
  Flights.Session,
  Flights.StartTime,
  Flights.StartPosition,
  Flights.EndPosition,
  Flights.StartAltitude,
  Flights.EndAltitude,
  Flights.StartGS,
  Flights.EndGS,
  Aircraft.Comment,
  Aircraft.LastTime,
  Aircraft.FirstTime,
  Aircraft.AircraftTypeLong,
  Aircraft.AircraftTypeSmall,
  Aircraft.Airline,
  Aircraft.ModeS,
  Aircraft.ModeSCountry,
  Aircraft.Registration,
  Aircraft.ADSB
FROM Flights
 LEFT OUTER JOIN Aircraft ON (Flights.ModeS=Aircraft.ModeS)
WHERE
 (Flights.StartTime LIKE '2009/06/02%')
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: Squad 701 on June 05, 2009, 11:03:16 AM
And another thanks here to Tarbit for explaining that one - Cheers.
I will wait and see what the new software brings, before I venture down the SQL route.
I did a few counts over the last week here in Dublin, and it always averaged out about 1600. The highest count being 1653 on Wednesday, for individual aircraft.
It may take a while before I reach my own goal of 2000, I might have to get the Watson up another 10feet :-)
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: GlynH on June 05, 2009, 12:44:32 PM
It may take a while before I reach my own goal of 2000, I might have to get the Watson up another 10feet :-)

Good luck with your 2000 target Squad 701 - hopefully with summer coming there will be more flights coming our way - I would like to hit 3000 aircraft so we are both looking for around an increase of 400 aircraft 'sightings' in a day - not sure if that is achievable or not...

I have been toying with fitting the Kuhne masthead pre-amp for some time now...not to increase the number of aircraft tracked but purely for ESD protection of some sort.

I might just give it a go one day and see if it increases my listening range and the number of aircraft or whether it might have a negative effect and swamp some of the signals I already receive.

Another Watson user...I have mine mounted on the top of a 17 foot pole at the top of the gable end of the house which is already @ 460 feet asl - see picture attached.

Connected with Westflex 103 but I am not happy with my home-made connection in the loft where I had to remove a bloody PL259 plug fitted by a dealer who should have known better...

Even with my location and height my own polar diagram shows my coverage to the South-West to be limited compared to the rest of the coverage I see.

Not sure why - there must be aircraft down there in Devon & Cornwall ;^)

Kind regards,
-=Glyn=-

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Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: Squad 701 on June 05, 2009, 12:53:22 PM
It may take a while before I reach my own goal of 2000, I might have to get the Watson up another 10feet :-)

Another Watson user...I have mine mounted on the top of a 17 foot pole at the top of the gable end of the house which is already @ 460 feet asl

Even at that great location and height my own polar diagram shows my coverage to the South-West to be limited compared to the rest of the coverage.

Not sure why - there must be aircraft down there in Devon & Cornwall ;^)

Kind regards,
-=Glyn=-

I was wondering whether

Love the setup Glyn (drools all over table)
My long term goal is to have a similar setup to that !
Is that a HF antenna in the middle ?
With that kind of cash on a pole, I'd make sure it's all properly earthed,
unless you live beside a church :-) with there fancy lightning conductors :-)
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: t1mb0 on June 05, 2009, 01:36:16 PM
hi, just a thought, what is supporting your W-103 from the top of that mast, it's not just hanging is it?
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: tarbat on June 05, 2009, 02:26:24 PM
I have a question about the SQL-syntax below: how get I aircraft NOT with ADSB equipped in this generated report?

Instead of:
FROM Flights
 LEFT OUTER JOIN Aircraft ON (Flights.ModeS=Aircraft.ModeS)

Use:
FROM Aircraft
 LEFT OUTER JOIN Flights ON (Aircraft.ModeS=Flights.ModeS)
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: John Racars on June 05, 2009, 02:39:31 PM
No succes, Tarbat.

Thank you for reaction anyway!

The results are, so it looks, exactly the same.

Also no "old" a/c, no unfitted Embraers in the report.
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: GlynH on June 05, 2009, 09:15:48 PM
Love the setup Glyn (drools all over table)
My long term goal is to have a similar setup to that !
Is that a HF antenna in the middle ?
With that kind of cash on a pole, I'd make sure it's all properly earthed,
unless you live beside a church :-) with there fancy lightning conductors :-)

I've always had big aerials bolted somewhere on the house since my old 'CB' days going back to the late 70's.

I even built a wind-up tower out of 2x2 box section steel and a scaffold pole down the middle attached by glider towing cable to a winch! When at rest the 2x2 was about level with the ridge tile and when wound up...well...
Mounted on top were a 3 element beam for a while then an Avanti PDL II - anyone remember those?

At one time I also had an Avanti SigmaIV on the side of the house but had to remove that during some really strong winds when it was bent down so far it was almost tapping next doors chimney pot...

Always wanted a Moonraker 6 back in the day...:-/

Had an 8 element FM beam antenna over 10' long on a rotator mounted on the chimney for many years which now hosts a Royal Discone and cheap & cheerful Watson clone wireless weather station - see pic.

To answer your question from the top;

Watson 1090 antenna (the mast is @ 1m long I think)
Digital High Gain TV aerial
VHF/FM Omnidirectional
DAB Omni


t1mb0:

Give me a little credit here...:-)

The W103 is cable tied to the rear of the pole with @ 14 clear ties along its length to make the install a little easier on the eye when viewed from the front of the house...the only array I didn't install is the current Royal Discone/Weather Station as I didn't have a roof ladder - and I'm not quite as brave as I used to be up a ladder...;^)

The installer made 2 visits to install it as he didn't have the correct brackets the first time despite my going down and showing him pictures of the various antenna & location, showing him the poles & mounting accessories and explaining exactly what I wanted.

In the end they mounted the weather sensor array on the fornt corner of the chimney when it would have been much neater at the back to 'soften' the look of the install.

Kind regards,
-=Glyn=-
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: GlynH on June 06, 2009, 03:49:51 PM
I am creeping ever closer to that elusive 3000 mark as my RB clocked 2838 unique aircraft yesterday.

I am tempted to move it to the loft so I can dispense with the 5m extension that I had to fit to reach into my office to see if that might make a difference.

Either that or waterproof it in a sealed Tupperware box and attach it directly to the antenna like some sort of 'Frankenstein' masthead pre-amp - only then I would need a 15m USB lead or an external PC! :-)

When I have some spare time I must dig that UBox out of retirement...

Regards,
-=Glyn=-
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: atcukmatty on June 06, 2009, 05:16:26 PM
hi GlynH, what type of external antenna are you using for radarbox? is that an GP1090? how does it compare to the DPD?

also whats the difference in range between the standard supplied aerial compared to your setup?

thanks
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: GlynH on June 06, 2009, 05:35:42 PM
hi GlynH, what type of external antenna are you using for radarbox? is that an GP1090? how does it compare to the DPD?

also whats the difference in range between the standard supplied aerial compared to your setup?

thanks

Hi atcukmatty,

If you take a look on the previous page you will see exactly what I use - I have even posted a picture.

It came from a supplier who I can't recommend in a soft plastic, yellow 'bag' with a clear front and I suspect although it was badged Watson might be a 'badge-engineered' generic type as I  have seen similar antennae supplied in the same packaging badged differently.

Here are a couple of links to the same product;

http://www.radioworld.co.uk/~radio/catalog/radarextender-external-antenna-radarbox-p-5965.html?osCsid=f5d30bd04af72b245a5a02266d2cdb4b

http://www.airbandonline.co.uk/viradac_radarextender.htm


I don't know how it compares with the standard supplied aerial because I only used that for one day on the window sill before I put the Watson up but these guys have experience with both;

http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=2553.0


I also have no idea how it compares with the DPD either although someone around here might have an idea...try the Search function! ;^)

Kind regards,
-=Glyn=-
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: CoastGuardJon on June 06, 2009, 09:19:06 PM
Hi Glyn, I'm convinced the Watson and Diamond antennas are manufactured by the same company.   There's a number of identical features and common parts.    Whether Watson maufacture for Diamond or vice versa, or a common manufacturer for both I do not know.     That yellow sleeve for each type all seem to be from the same maker, and ditto instructions.
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: GlynH on June 06, 2009, 10:14:20 PM
Hi Jon,

Yup...Diamond was the 'other' make I couldn't think of when writing my earlier post.

Depending upon which dealer you go to you will usually see one or the other but they look identical especially hanging up in their yellow sleeves.

Kind regards,
-=Glyn=-

 
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: John Racars on June 07, 2009, 03:55:53 PM
Hi Support and All,

After following this tread the last days I am asking me or questions with the subject "SQL" and making reports from out the RB databases, are here on the right place.

Now the discussion goes about antennes more and more. That is no problem ofcourse!

Maybe there can be opened a subforum about "RB Database-Management" where all questions about this subject can be put in? It is only a thought...
Title: Re: 1000 up
Post by: AirNav Support on June 07, 2009, 09:11:52 PM
Thats a intresting idea, we will look into it.