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AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com => AirNav RadarBox and RadarBox24.com Discussion => Topic started by: AirNav Support on April 22, 2009, 10:26:36 PM
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RadarBox 2009 (Version 2.1) is currently in development and our development team is working through requests and bugs.
The following bugs or requests have been noted as Critical and we endeavour to rectify/add them as soon as possible:
- Slow Menus on certain fast machines (Dual Core, Quad Core)
- Improved Network flights Transitions to Live (and Live to network)
- Route overwrites when route with more than one leg is entered via online database
- Certain Mode-S Flight IDs Missing
- Auto Populate without Photos
- Flights going from Network to Local flight should check route info in local database
- Report should show show all flights for an aircraft not just one
- Vista 64Bit Drivers
- Log Mode-S flights better
Please note the list above is not exhaustive (we have many requests marked as high, medium etc..) and this is to give an indication of the most common questions and reports we get to support.
Timeline:
At present development is ongoing so we do not have a certain date. However we should expect soon (5 weeks) to have beta available. We have not confirmed whether this first beta will be available to the public on that date but it won't be long after that we have public beta and then a release version. Please note however it is hard to place an exact date on development due to issues which may arise in testing or whether certain requests are found to consuming to develop that originally anticipated.
We would like to thank your patience and apologise for the delay. We are a company who listens and we are a company who innovates and we hope version 2.1 matches and goes beyond your needs.
Contact
If you have any queries, requests then please contact us through the ways mentioned in our signature.
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As we finished the implementation of the new AIRAC cycle into V2.10 (that contains updates on more than 100 thousand VOR, NDB, FIXes and Airways) we created the below Screen Shots that show the airspace network in some parts of the world.
The update of Navigation aids will be done automatically in the future (starting with V3.0 later this year).
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For those who don't know what an AIRAC cycle is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeronautical_Information_Publication
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One more Screen Shot, this time of the UK airspace.
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And one more, this time for our US based users.
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Great work guys, can't wait for the update
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Excellent work, looking forward to the update and seeing in action in the SW of Ireland
Mason
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Hi Support
Is there any signs of the new version being released.
Cheers
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the world awaits were all like kids with candy,when is it due out..
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Support/development said the end of the week? :0)
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Are we nearly there yet, daddy?
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I know a song about that ;0)
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Current status: all problems corrected. Tested by 4 pre-beta testers and 8 errors reported all of them minor. We plan to correct them during the next 2 days and send the software back to the beta testers for further testing. So next Monday/Tuesday we will have more news.
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song goes............ please release meeeeeeeeeeee let me goooooooooo
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by Tom Bones
oh sorry he uses a rival system
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Thank you Support for letting us know whats going on.
Biting me nails here, as I reformatted my hard drive about 2 weeks ago and thought I might as well wait till the new version gets here to put it back on.
Roll on Monday/Tuesday, Trouble is then I go on holiday next Sunday.
Life's a shit sometimes
Cheers
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Somewhere nice I hope
Must be with a new version of the software waiting to be tried out ;0)
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Thank you Support for letting us know whats going on.
Biting me nails here, as I reformatted my hard drive about 2 weeks ago and thought I might as well wait till the new version gets here to put it back on.
Roll on Monday/Tuesday, Trouble is then I go on holiday next Sunday.
Life's a shit sometimes
Cheers
Let us know where your flying from we'll track you on the new version just to make you feel better!!
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You are so Kind
1st June 2009 - British Airways - Heathrow to Toronto - 11.55am
Thank you kind people
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Toronto great place
Have a great time
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Abrad41,
When in Toronto, hire yourself a car and drive round to Airport Road and park in the car park of the Aviation Enthusiasts shop. If the other runway is being used park in at the executive car park area off Derry Road in amongst the hangars used by Skyservice etc. Great place to be. I'm envious already. Don't forget to drive out to Buttonville for the small stuff and to Hamilton for various cargo.
Cheers,
Ian
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Abrad41,
When in Toronto, hire yourself a car and drive round to Airport Road and park in the car park of the Aviation Enthusiasts shop. If the other runway is being used park in at the executive car park area off Derry Road in amongst the hangars used by Skyservice etc. Great place to be. I'm envious already. Don't forget to drive out to Buttonville for the small stuff and to Hamilton for various cargo.
Cheers,
Ian
There was a great (cough) "gentleman's" club called the Landing Strip" in Mississauga at one time,front entrance done out like a B52 bomber.
I ended up in there by mistake (several times!)
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Know it well. Easy mistake to make !!
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Now I feel even worst than I did.
When in Toronto, hire yourself a car and drive round to Airport Road and park in the car park of the Aviation Enthusiasts shop. If the other runway is being used park in at the executive car park area off Derry Road in amongst the hangars used by Skyservice etc. Great place to be. I'm envious already. Don't forget to drive out to Buttonville for the small stuff and to Hamilton for various cargo.
Did i tell you I am taking the wife, there will none of that, what a shame.
I have a car waiting at Toronto Airport, but driving straight to Niagara for 2 nights, then 3 nights in Toronto then onto New York for 5 nights.
cheers
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Now I feel even worst than I did.
When in Toronto, hire yourself a car and drive round to Airport Road and park in the car park of the Aviation Enthusiasts shop. If the other runway is being used park in at the executive car park area off Derry Road in amongst the hangars used by Skyservice etc. Great place to be. I'm envious already. Don't forget to drive out to Buttonville for the small stuff and to Hamilton for various cargo.
Did i tell you I am taking the wife, there will none of that, what a shame.
I have a car waiting at Toronto Airport, but driving straight to Niagara for 2 nights, then 3 nights in Toronto then onto New York for 5 nights.
cheers
I am led to believe V2.10 is so good it can track cars in the U.S. via the Sat Nav signal,indeed one of the bugs (since sorted) was it couldn't tell how many passengers there were in the vehicle....pity you'll miss the launch eh?
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Andy,
Keep it as a surprise ie you took a wrong turning but once you have picked up your car and on the way to Niagara from Pearson on the main highway you will see the signs for Hamilton Airport. It's not far off the main drag and could count as just a small detour ! Well worth a quick visit.
Ian
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Andy,
Keep it as a surprise ie you took a wrong turning but once you have picked up your car and on the way to Niagara from Pearson on the main highway you will see the signs for Hamilton Airport. It's not far off the main drag and could count as just a small detour ! Well worth a quick visit.
Ian
There are some devious people in this world...so there are.
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I was in Hamilton last Oct. Great to see around 15 cargo B727s and the museum was flyging one of its PT-26 cornells of course the Lanc in the Hanger. :-)
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Almost time!!! Can't wait
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Don't mean to be a party pooper, but whilst I am eager to see V2.10, I do hope Airnav don't release it too early just to appease the numerous requests to do so. I'd prefer to wait a bit longer if needed to ensure that there are no gremlins lurking. After all - users will only moan if gremlins exist I'm sure ! As a software author I know how difficult it can be.
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Too early? It was supposed to be released 4 months ago.
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Are you saying you would have preferred a gremlin laden version to be released four months ago ??
All good things come to those who wait ! - At least that it what my Granny said. She died a few days after saying that though, so she may have been wrong I guess....
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I'd prefer known problems to be sorted out in a rolling update way and leave the release of a new version for new equipment or features. Thats just my humble opinion.
Are you saying you would have preferred a gremlin laden version to be released four months ago ??
All good things come to those who wait ! - At least that it what my Granny said. She died a few days after saying that though, so she may have been wrong I guess....
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Eggplant. Remember this release is a Beta version. They are releasing it with the intention that we pick up on any remiaining bugs. So that when the full official V2.1 is released, it will be an overall better product.
Expect this forum to explode, explaining a bug here and a feature not giving the expected results there. This is what Airnav want us to do at this stage in the release process.
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Damned if they do, damned if they don't - you'll never please everyone all of the time and we've got our fair share of whingers in here!
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Airnav update please
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Have a look at developments post in page one of this thread.
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monday/tuesday nil
when pls ?
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Yeah what's going on AirNav?
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We are still finishing the slow menu problem - all the rest is corrected. One user still reported a minor problem with it so we are investigating. More news to come.
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Was slow menu a big problem, can't remember many posts about it?
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It certainly was/is for me...
DC
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Likewise -particularly the Tools menu.
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It was a problem for me and up until early last week was testing the new version but nothing heard since from Airnav Development.
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i thought this was down to processor power and the fact that with lots of contacts menus etc took a back seat?
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Malc- I doubt that processor power is a cause- unless you are running a very old low power CPU.
This one is an AMD 300XP - running at about 10% overclock.
Right now I have ANRB running along with Planeplotter and 3 Internet Explorer windows open plus MBM5....the CPU seldom shows more than 50% in Task Manager....
If an ancient CPU like this can manage then most newer PCs should be finding it a doddle.
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Yup, mine is a quad processor. It seems the problem appears to occur in machines with higher specs.
DC
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Ok thanks for that, it was not something that I had noticed on my 386 ;-)
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On Quad cores switching to one processor does help with the menu speed.
Also if I switch the map off the menus respond okay so on my systems it appears that the map redraw slows down the menus. I was providing feedback to Airnav but all went quiet last week.
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I have recently started getting a situation were the map just freezes. Everything else works fine, but the map does not show any updates.
If you close the map and then re-open it, sometimes you just get the aircraft tracks, no map?
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Yup, mine is a quad processor. It seems the problem appears to occur in machines with higher specs.
DC
Hey welcome back Chris!
Haven't been around much myself lately...hope everything is OK with you?
Also suffered the slow menu problem here (amongst others things) which was definitely not down to processor speed (Dual 3.2GHz Xeons) and was hoping for a Beta version to see if they have been sorted...we will see.
I realise AirNav are caught between a rock and a hard place with wanting to get the latest release out but have to balance that with the stability & bug-fixing that any new release invariably brings to the party.
Personally I am in no rush for v2.10 - I'd rather wait longer and see some of those long-standing issues sorted first.
Kind regards,
-=Glyn=-
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really not serious !
i hve just buyed the sbs1 in france yesterday
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really not serious !
i hve just buyed the sbs1 in france yesterday
Hi there,
No need to panic - the one you got yesterday is still OK, we are all talking about a Software upgrade that will soon be available to upload from this site at no extra cost to you!
Regards
Mike
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really not serious !
i hve just buyed the sbs1 in france yesterday
Hi there,
No need to panic - the one you got yesterday is still OK, we are all talking about a Software upgrade that will soon be available to upload from this site at no extra cost to you!
Regards
Mike
What's this?
The latest Airnav RadarBox software will run the Kinetic SBS-1? ;^)
<ducking>
Regards,
-=Glyn=-
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Funny, I read afo47's post as he had just got a RB - hope he hasn't really got an SBS-1, because if he has, the V2.1 software isn't going to help him at all - lol
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Hi
I don't know how much relevance this may have to the slow menu problem but I run Windows Defender and collect updates regularly and occasionally my PC requires a reboot to install the updates.
I have just downloaded the latest updates which needed a reboot and if I do not reboot all the menu options become extremly slow and unresponsive until I reboot the PC and everything is then OK. Could the problem be with windows updates on machines running 24/7 and not being rebooted for the updates?
My machine is an AMD 2600+ 1.5gbRAM and not dual/quad core and normally runs ANRB fine
Just my thoughts
Regards
Stewart
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I think the permitations of what could be causing this problem are too numeous to list. Hopefully the next software release will solve the problem?
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really not serious !
i hve just buyed the sbs1 in france yesterday
Hi there,
No need to panic - the one you got yesterday is still OK, we are all talking about a Software upgrade that will soon be available to upload from this site at no extra cost to you!
Regards
Mike
What's this?
The latest Airnav RadarBox software will run the Kinetic SBS-1? ;^)
<ducking>
Regards,
-=Glyn=-
I will have to read the posts a bit more thoroughly but I was not expecting to see SBS1 in this forum. Anyway to show I am unbiased I have both and the SBS`1 is expecting a software update in the near future..... :-)
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Shame the in-built airband can't be a downoad!
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"They" still haven't published any specs as far as I can see. It's listed as an "Airband Receiver" so I expect VHF only (no Mil UHF) and only one freq at a time (no scanning). I purchased the "Radio Interface" for the SBS-1 - really just a key to unlock the radio function - but I found it very limiting in that I could only monitor one frequency at a time. The concept is reasonable for monitoring an airfield, but it falls down when you want to listen to en-route traffic. I went back to using my stand-alone scanner in the end, as I could monitor all the VHF/UHF frequencies and stop the scanner when something interesting came up.
Interest on the Kinetic forum has been a bit "lukewarm" but I await the launch with interest. It bumps the price up a bit too :-0
That FM receive function will be good for listening to the Archers though when the user get bored listening to aircraft - lol
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still nothing ?
really bad !!
by chance i have my new sbs1 and all datas on port 30003 !
good luck
JL
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Our team has been very busy, this week, with the launch of the successful launch of the first ADS-B receiver in space. More news on the link below.
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=2650.msg24157#msg24157
Now that this task has ended (for the next 2 weeks) we are pointing again at V2.10: we are finishing some corrections to 8 new reported problems and will pass them to the beta testers tomorrow.
Our aim is the following:
- Sunday May 31: pass final beta test exe to testers;
- Tuesday Jun 2: receive all input from beta testers;
- Wednesday Jun 3: if no more problems reported release the final beta on our forum. If more problems reported repeat the cycle above and decide again on Fri Jun 5.
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Thanks for the latest update AN.
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Is the final beta for general release or selected users?
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Is the final beta for general release or selected users?
I would infer from "if no more problems reported release the final beta on our forum" that anyone who is interested gets to play with it at that stage.
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Wednesday Jun 3: if no more problems reported release the final beta on our forum. If more problems reported repeat the cycle above and decide again on Fri Jun 5.
My reading of that Malc and Dave is selected testers only, the whispers in Sterigia's ear must have been from Kinetic!
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The final beta will go out on the forum and is to the public. Its not selected testers.
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Hi ANS, thanks for clarifying that point, I'd read "final beta" as still being the testers' version. Malc and Dave, I was vocalising out of my posterior sphincter again!
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Our aim is the following:
- Sunday May 31: pass final beta test exe to testers;
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Since testing the menu problem and providing logs to Alex and Andre I have heard nothing for 10 days, I have stopped using the updated exe since it kept crashing out.
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EMA,
Don't worry things are happening (internal testing as well). You should get an email soon with the new version.
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Since testing the menu problem and providing logs to Alex and Andre I have heard nothing for 10 days, I have stopped using the updated exe since it kept crashing out.
You'll have to get used to that EMA, been there...got the t-shirt...;^)
I (and at least one other user) went through the same thing way back last August/September/October when we spent weeks trying build after build, capturing debug info, taking screenshots & video, sending numerous emails, running with no logging/alerts, and missing many good contacts in that time...
Then all went quiet from AirNav and so I solved all of my problems by unplugging the RB completely - worked for me! ;^)
Heard nothing until @ 3 weeks ago when with the imminent release of v2.10 it has rekindled my interest in this addictive hobby again.
Here's keeping my fingers crossed...
Kind regards,
-=Glyn=-
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Ok, well version 2.10 is nearly ready as customers have mentioned it is in the beta stage.
Lets just stay away from silly infighting on this forum.
We are playing a no win game, release too early and any bug not caught we will get moaned at. If we release after fixing that bug we will get moaned at in the period is not released.
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ANS as usual you are doing a great job, I know it can be a bit frustrating for some people, but you seem to have everything in hand as usual.
I am sure that you can imagine some of the impatience, as we all want our ANRB to work to their best and full potential.
Looking forward to the new release.
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We are playing a no win game, release too early and any bug not caught we will get moaned at. If we release after fixing that bug we will get moaned at in the period is not released.
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=2694.msg24022#msg24022
Regards,
-=Glyn=-
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Keep up the good work airnav!!
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As they say the light at the end of the tunnel is getting brighter
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Our aim is the following:
- Sunday May 31: pass final beta test exe to testers;
Well the beta was not received by me and no response to my emails following previous testing requests so I will now bow out of testing the slow menu issue.
Good Luck!
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We are still working on the pending issues. From 21 minor problems 14 are done as we write this message.
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"As they say the light at the end of the tunnel is getting brighter"
Let's hope it's not just the lights of an oncoming train...
Still haven't received my promised beta copy!
DC
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Looks like another couple of weeks yet then?
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We would say a couple of days instead. :-)
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We would say a couple of days instead. :-)
As in early in the New Year - which year????? :~O
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Can anyone comment on whether the export of data via socket (ports 30003 or 7879) are working better in v2.1 than in v2.0 ...?
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Just a quick update: final beta version will enter tests with 5 beta users in a few hours.
We also have some good news: we had time to add a long time requested feature, the possibility of adding custom waypoints to the map. It's done. Stby for more news.
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Bring it on guys :0)
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Im ready!!
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Marc
Aren't we all
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Me To.........‹(•¿•)›
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the possibility of adding custom waypoints to the map.
Sounds Great!!
Jonjo
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Excellent news Airnav.
Regards
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I have been In the Sun in Niagara and Toronto and tomorrow New York and I never like comming home from holiday, but by the looks of things, I might just have a nice welcome home presant waiting for me.
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well done hope it goes ok
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Excellent news I'm going to be in dry dock for a few days with a wonky knee. Radarbox is going to fill a lot of my time during this period so it will be even better if version 2.10 is due for release. Can't wait to see what the changes will make.
John
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John
Sorry to hear about the knee. I think we all echo your thoughts about v2.1.
Should be anytime now ? ;-)
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Excellent news I'm going to be in dry dock for a few days with a wonky knee. Radarbox is going to fill a lot of my time during this period so it will be even better if version 2.10 is due for release. Can't wait to see what the changes will make.
John
Hi John,
Version 2.10 comes with free packet of Difene anti-inflamatory pain killers :-)
Nothing worse than that fluid on the knee, hope your feeling better soon.
Don't install the new software untill someone else tests it first, just in case.
Don't want you hopping-mad :-)
Cheers.
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Cheers guys needed the laugh. Should be up and about in a few days just some rest needed. I'm hopping (or is that hoping) for more good weather. Then it'll be out in the garden with the laptop and maybe the recovery will need more time!!!!!
John
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John
Looks like an afternoon inside then today, if this side of the cuntry is anything to go by
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will v2.1 be relesed today am going away for a few days if it aint out today i will set off now be a nice suprise for when i get back though hehe
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Just a small update: after the last version sent to the beta testers 80% of them reported a problem with the application speed (caused by a change we have made in the last 3 days). We are now working on this (major) problem (and 5 other minor problems reported) and will send a new beta version to them in 24 hours.
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Any news airnav??. It´s been three days with no updates about the new software.
Thanks for your patience!!.
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2 minor bugs on testing phase. We are almost there. If these bugs are cleared the beta will be available this Thursday on our site for anyone to test.
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yipee!!
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Great can't wait
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my exact words marc
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Will the new release be free of charge and accessible for anybody?
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Yes :-)
Rod
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Woop wooop!
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I already miss version 2.0. :-(
Hosch
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I can't wait for version 2.10 :-)
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I can't wait for version 2.10 :-)
great news.
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Good news: we are almost there...latest version just sent to the beta testing team. If they give their green light we will have it available as beta for all the users to download. We also added some nice new features. More news to follow. :-)
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Please confirm if you have included the feature to view a specific aircrafts flightpath history? Maby even to filter the time period involved? One could also select ALL aircraft for the day/week/month to see lots of lines of all the tracked aircraft
Or just view a specific type?
In v2.0 the dots behind the aircraft only gets displayed for a few seconds then vanish, you also can't view that aircrafts flightpath again
Looking forward!!! Maby give us a list of new features???
Tx
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In v2.0 the dots behind the aircraft only gets displayed for a few seconds then vanish, you also can't view that aircrafts flightpath again
You can set the trial to 10,000 seconds - I make that around 166 minutes? The trails do disappear when the aircraft is lost, maybe that is what you mean?
As for the other request, that sounds like a new one to me and therefore unlikely to be in V21.
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Even when I select 10000seconds I only get displays worth about 2 min
Maby my pc too slow as this might be a factor of pc speed?
Tx m
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Oh stop it you two, you've got us all drooling ;-)
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Ohh happy days, version 2.10 almost upon us and a tantallising hook from Airnav, We also added some nice new features. More news to follow. :-).
The doc suggested I should rest the knee for a few more days. All I need now is a settled period of good weather, suncream, laptop and I'm ready to recuperate and try and forget about work for a few days!!!
Can't wait to see what the new version brings, cheers Airnav
John
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Even when I select 10000seconds I only get displays worth about 2 min
I thought you said in your original post "In v2.0 the dots behind the aircraft only gets displayed for a few seconds then vanish". So, is it a few seconds, or about 2 minutes? I've got mine set to 180 seconds, and they stay on screen for that time okay.
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Has the bugs with missing/bad data on port 30003 been fixed in 2.10 ?
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How's things looking airnav ?
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Ohh happy days, version 2.10 almost upon us and a tantallising hook from Airnav, We also added some nice new features. More news to follow. :-).
The doc suggested I should rest the knee for a few more days. All I need now is a settled period of good weather, suncream, laptop and I'm ready to recuperate and try and forget about work for a few days!!!
Can't wait to see what the new version brings, cheers Airnav
John
John
Don't hold much hope for the suncream
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Come on airnav give us a list of features and a screenshot,you know you want to............
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Is there not a fair play rule on this site?
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We are at this moment waiting for the reply from 2 beta testers. There is a minor problem reported in the renews MyLog Report feature and we are waiting for their input.
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Can you get them to hurry up please :-)
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We don't have yet a green light: we have now only one single problem to be corrected which will be done during Thursday. Then more tests will follow. It would be great if we could have the beta version available for download during the weekend. We will do our best.
BTW: vertical rate on the map is now shown with an up/down arrow and not a +/- sign. It has been a long time request now implemented.
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We are at this moment waiting for the reply from 2 beta testers. There is a minor problem reported in the renews MyLog Report feature and we are waiting for their input.
Looking forward to the new release and I hope you will not rush it out at the expense of thorough testing despite being heckled to do so! ;^)
As I said before I for one am happy to wait a little longer for a stable & fully tested release...
Can I ask please if any your Beta Testers are any of the users who suffered from the slow menu and those other related 'pseudo-problems' I (and others) reported when I first purchased my RB nearly a a year ago in July 2008?
I only ask because some of those users at least do not seem to have not been included in this latest Beta despite their taking the time & trouble of testing different builds in the past - and for my own peace of mind of course! :-)
I do realise of course you intend to release a public beta...
I know I have asked before but do you have a list or changelog of the new features/improvements and fixes implemented in v2.10 that you could post pre-release please AirNav?
Thanks & regards,
-=Glyn=-
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Yes we did have beta testers with the slow menu issue and they have reported they do not experience it with the betas :)
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Great stuff...I can sleep easy at nights now! ;^)
My peace of mind again though...you do know it wasn't just the menus - this issue seemed to affect almost everything here such as using MyLog, Alerts and general program/system response?
My guess would be that they are all related so if the menu issue is fixed then the other stuff should be also.
Also - for the third time <ducking> have you or will you post a Changelog of the differences between the current version and v2.10 so we can see just what is in store for us please?
Or if you have any reason why you would rather not then at least acknowledge the fact that I have asked so I don't think my requests have fallen on deaf ears? :-)
Thanks & regards,
-=Glyn=-
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Sorry, we will keep tight lipped about it untill its released. More so, so we don't get the barrage of "you didn't included my request, why" etc..
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Well, I was probably one of the more vociferous amongst those who had the slow menu problem, and was promised (on another forum...) that I would be E mailed a copy of the new version Beta as soon as it was available for testing - I never received it, or heard any more despite reminders...
DC
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when is version 3 coming?
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Version 3 is based on the brand new AirNav FlightWatch software with MANY MANY more features. FlightWatch will be released in Oct 2009 (programming goes on, especially on our flight data servers in Dallas and Boston).
V3 only after that (a few months later). AirNav FlightWatch will be the only flight tracking application showing data from several different sources: RadarBox, RadarBox Network, FAA Radar System, ACARS, Flight Plans, Manual Input. It is being developed for our airline/airport customers but I'm sure we will work out how to have a non-professional version available.
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obviously at a modest price..............
and what will happen to us grovelling radarbox users?
frank
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Explained above: we try to have an "Home" version of FlightWatch at a cheaper price. Later there will be RadarBox software V3.
The most important is that we are here to win and work will never stop with new version being released year after year.
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excellent. thanks,
frank
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Still waiting for one final bug related to the polar diagram feature. More news to follow. Beta release no earlier than Sunday night (unfortunately).
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Hi AirNav,
The best thing you can do is sit on it until i'ts ready.
I am on a forum with TomTom sat nav and the amount of unstable updates they put out is mind blowing!.
Much better to get it right.
Alan
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AirNav
Still waiting for one final bug related to the polar diagram feature. More news to follow. Beta release no earlier than Sunday night (unfortunately).
Are we still on course for tonight.
Cheers
Andy
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Explained above: we try to have an "Home" version of FlightWatch at a cheaper price. Later there will be RadarBox software V3.
Hi Support,
Looks good. I am looking forward to this all!
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Hi there,
I`ve been quiety watching the post on here and must say"why all the impatience",we all want a system that runs as smooth as possible,but harping on only leads to rushing to get it done and released,remember when you rush,you make mistakes,then there`s a backlash and criticism,so lets give a little,and get what we all want A GOOD SMOOTH RUNNING RB.(i will now don my tin hat and bullet proof vest)
Regards Terry.
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Terry
I`ve been quiety watching the post on here and must say"why all the impatience",we all want a system that runs as smooth as possible,but harping on only leads to rushing to get it done and released,remember when you rush,you make mistakes,then there`s a backlash and criticism,so lets give a little,and get what we all want A GOOD SMOOTH RUNNING RB.(i will now don my tin hat and bullet proof vest)
I would like to explain my impatience - About 3-4 weeks ago I formatted my harddrive, on getting everything back on, I thought whats the point of putting RB back on when there should be a new version out in a couple of days - which has now turned into weeks. So for the last 3-4 weeks I have been without my RB. I could put the old version back on, But I bet a soon as I do the new one will be released. So Terry, maybe you can see why I am Impatient - Try going without your RB for a while and see how you feel.
But I can see were you are coming from and I do understand - But I am missing the RB so much and hoping the new version wil be out very very soon.
Cheers
Andy
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Andy,
It not going to make any difference if you install that version as well. I think that was mentioned before.
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We have the approval from 9 beta testers now. Only 1 remains with minor problems. We are working on them now. We will do our best to have V2.10 out this week.
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We have the approval from 9 beta testers now. Only 1 remains with minor problems. We are working on them now. We will do our best to have V2.10 out this week.
take your time, the vultures are waiting to SPOT the mistakes its the only way they can survive
from pat
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AirNav Support
It not going to make any difference if you install that version as well. I think that was mentioned before.
I do now I could install the old version, but time of install and then uninstall and to install the new version it what I am trying to avoid. I have a clean harddrive now and would prefer to do just one install. I am lucky in the respect that I have been on holiday for 10 days. But I am very sorry to you for being so Impatient.
radarspotter10
vultures are waiting to SPOT the mistakes its the only way they can survive
Please could you refrain from calling people vultures and saying we are here to find mistakes. We are all here because we have a hobby - WE ARE NOT HERE TO FIND MISTAKES AND CAUSE TROUBLE - we are all here for the same end result.
Cheers
Andy
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vultures are waiting to SPOT the mistakes its the only way they can survive
Andy
I totally agree, there is no need for that kind of comment on any forum, let alone here. We are all aware of the delays for the new software, but those kind of comments only do one thing, that is put bad blood amongst users and that in my opioion is not what we are here for.
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No reason to be impatient either!
Radarspotters "vulture" comment is more than valid if you look at the damage caused on other forums - unfortunately people, possibly with different axes to grind are waiting for things not to be fixed etc etc etc
I think on this forum,were all pretty level headed and genuinely want air Nav to have an excellent (if it can get amy more so) product catering for its users, whilst being at the forefront of software development ?
Let's all chill - if it takes a week,or even two, much better to wait rather than chance
Happy spotting
Rich
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Hi all,
The only "problem" is that AirNav always says : Next week or in 2 or 3 days
since now a long time !!!! (regarding the older post !!!)
For me, there are not serious and i prefer an compagny which announces
a date an respects it (also if it's a long date). and i do not realy understand why theses delay, if there is minor bug, patch are for that !!!!
I am the manager of a small software compagny since 20 years and if i do the same thing with my customers i would have already closed.
it's only a respect of the customers Hobby or PRO.
F6GSG
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F6GSG,
Thats incorrect, if we said a specfic date and the version we have is with the beta testers and a few faults were found under your method we would still have release on that date regardless whether those bugs are fixed. That is not sensible, a current version is already out there so we are no rush to go down that route.
We also totally agree with Marpleman post.
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Good things come to those that wait.
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Airnav,
Thats wants to say that the released version does not have any bug ?
Generaly i prefer accept minor bug (not critical bug), and beta testers are not
here for critical bug !!!! i hope that critical bug are resolved.
Sorry, also delayed the date is not serious fo me, but it's
my opinion, i am only a customers who finally hopes have some functions
active in V2.10
seriously Charlie, i hope that V2.10 is a good things and wait is not a problem, only not
delayed the date each week.
F6GSG
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We will only released V2.10 Beta to the general public when no bugs are reported by the current beta testers. We are 24 hours to achieve this objective.
Regarding having or not bugs: there is absolutely no software without bugs. Even Windows XP SP3 has bugs. Software is programmed by humans and relies on many bases (other software like an operating system or hardware like a computers) to work well. If anything goes wrong with any of these factors then something will fail.
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Seems to me there is a growing number of members that have the patience to wait for a refined version - and I add my voice to the same effect. Though I wouldn't have used the term "vultures" to refer to those whom are pressing for a release, my guess is they will be the same people that are the first to make negative criticism of the release when it does happen.
Well done to Airnav for your diplomatic measured responses to the posts. Perhaps it might be an idea to formally announce a 6 week delay - then surprise all by releasing it earlier ??
Practically speaking, whilst the new release is undoubtedly an exciting prospect, I really don't see why such desperation is apparent from some members. For me, my RB overall works well with the current version - although the previously well documented concerns are of course prevalent. I logged the Avro Vulcan & Lancaster this weekend - and that is with the current version !!!
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The vulture comment I am 99% sure was not aimed at a people who are posting say please release it but more few people (competitor customers and others) who are don't like to see RadarBox succeed and hence thrive on anything wrong by us to make their day.
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The vulture comment I am 99% sure was not aimed at a people who are posting say please release it but more few people (comeptitor customers and others) who are don't like to see RadarBox succeed and hence thrive on anything wrong by us to make their day.
Perhaps I misunderstood then, my apologies to all non-vulture members pressing for a release !
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We have the approval from 9 beta testers now. Only 1 remains with minor problems. We are working on them now. We will do our best to have V2.10 out this week.
The vulture comment I am 99% sure was not aimed at a people who are posting say please release it but more few people (competitor customers and others) who are don't like to see RadarBox succeed and hence thrive on anything wrong by us to make their day.
take your time, the vultures are waiting to SPOT the mistakes its the only way they can survive
from pat
That was also the way I had read Pat's comment - there's an awful lot of people out there (only a couple in here!) who will be just waiting the chance to slag AN off - I just wish the RB had as many pretty lights as the SBS............. real eye candy, anyone else notice in the Base Station feature request list, non conflicting script on screen is requested, I'm just glad I went the RB route. Bring it on when it's ready AN. As I've said several times before, you're just setting yourself up for a fall otherwise. It all puts me in mind of kids, in December, or on a long journey, "Are we there yet?".
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Throwing in my tuppence worth, I'm more than happy to wait a while longer so that we can all enjoy a stable, critical bug free software release.
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For me, my RB overall works well with the current version
That's great. Some of us have been waiting a long time for what we think are critical fixes, so perhaps you can excuse our enthusiasm.
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The vulture comment I am 99% sure was not aimed at a people who are posting say please release it but more few people (competitor customers and others) who are don't like to see RadarBox succeed and hence thrive on anything wrong by us to make their day.
thanks for explaining that for me,
Care and application are necessary. ‥In truth, whatever is worth doing at all is worth doing well.
from pat
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Topic locked. Check the official V3.00 thread at:
http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=2855.new#new