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Title: Air Force 1
Post by: Tailwinds on March 30, 2009, 09:48:47 PM
As you know, Air Force 1 is due to land at Stanstead some time tomorrow. I know it won't be plotted on the map but will I be able to see Air Force 1 show up in the ANRB list?
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: ACW367 on March 30, 2009, 10:38:52 PM
It should do.  Here are some codes I found on the web, noted by a US based SBS users, when Obama and support went from Washington to California

ADFDF8 82-8000 AF1 2009-03-18 13:20 VC-25A United States 1stAS Baltimore MD, US 2009-03-18 17:20:29

ADFEBA 99-0004 VENUS94 2009-03-18 13:47 C-32A United States 1stAS Baltimore MD, US 2009-03-18 17:47:34

ADFEB7 98-0001 --- 2009-03-18 13:53 C-32A United States 1stAS Baltimore MD, US 2009-03-18 17:53:04

AE11F7 01-0041 VENUS31 2009-03-18 14:04 C-40B United States 1stAS Baltimore MD, US 2009-03-18 18:04:11

ADFEB5 74-0787 --- 2009-03-18 14:45 E-4B United States 1stACCS Mt Olivet KY,
US 2009-03-18 18:45:18

Here is another web SBS log entry for the other Air Force one
ADFDF9 S29000 92-9000 B742 ----- ----- 09/01/2008 10:27:52

Regards ACW367
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: Tailwinds on March 30, 2009, 10:46:13 PM
Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: colinhall on March 31, 2009, 07:07:11 AM
Morning all,
Anyone got his lordship on track coming over from USA yet? I have mine on and have nothing yet. Been told by a friend that he might have an ecsort of 4 F15,S A C150 and some choppers on standby near Stanstead?.

Colin
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: Tailwinds on March 31, 2009, 07:49:53 AM
Got my box on as well but can't see anything yet either. Could be too early yet. He's due to arrive at Stanstead early evening approx 7pm so I've been reading.
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: jgrloit on March 31, 2009, 10:18:00 AM
Did anyone over the 'other side' of the pond catch him leaving?
Which of the Atlantic routes is active at present for West-East traffic?
Could give us an idea of his inbound route ...   via Iceland?
Intended landfall Scotland or Ireland?......
So who could see him!!!
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: Tailwinds on March 31, 2009, 10:34:17 AM
Air Force 1 departs Andrews Air Force base at approx 1pm British time with an expected landing at Standstead at approx 7.30pm this evening.
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: dudbaker on March 31, 2009, 10:47:52 AM
jgloit

UAL9888 KADW/EGSS came 5230 5220 WAL Lorel4F

Dudley
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: Keith L on March 31, 2009, 12:28:58 PM
Obama just boarded AF1 at Andrews.
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: dudbaker on March 31, 2009, 12:38:03 PM
Hi

Airbourne at 1333A so WAL at 1951A if he follows UAL9888
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: tarbat on March 31, 2009, 12:54:43 PM
Callsign AF1 now tracking on Planeplotter, ModeS code is ADFDF8, reg: 82-8000, a B742 at FL170.

Not ADS/B of course.

http://www.airframes.org/reg/828000
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: AirNav Support on March 31, 2009, 01:15:44 PM
I guess the Secret Service won't be too pleased with that considering the FAA Data feed is not showing the flight as its listed as military.
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: tarbat on March 31, 2009, 01:30:15 PM
I guess the Secret Service won't be too pleased with that considering the FAA Data feed is not showing the flight as its listed as military.

Well, maybe they shouldn't transmit the Flight ID as AF1 - it's pretty obvious!!

And with the multilateration trials currently taking place with Planeplotter, we may even be able to track the approximate position of AF1 ;)
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: CoastGuardJon on March 31, 2009, 01:45:26 PM
Air Force 1 departs Andrews Air Force base at approx 1pm British time with an expected landing at Standstead at approx 7.30pm this evening.

Is that GMT/UTC/Z or BST please?
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: Tailwinds on March 31, 2009, 02:07:31 PM
BST.
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: Johnn on March 31, 2009, 05:08:43 PM
Will the Airforce 1 Flight me broadcasted on my 'My Flights'?
Thanks
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: tarbat on March 31, 2009, 05:25:49 PM
If it's within range, yes.  Not on map, just in the list.
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: CoastGuardJon on March 31, 2009, 05:54:48 PM
TW thanks for that, I assumed it would be BST, but you never can tell for sure.  No signs of anything coming in from the sw as yet, but also much less traffic than is usual for this time of day - keeping a corridor clear?
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: anorak on March 31, 2009, 06:07:25 PM
Any chance of a radio call and on what channel?
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: Tailwinds on March 31, 2009, 06:09:48 PM
I've just seen and managed to capture on the camcorder from my back garden, two Chinooks and Marine 1 & 2 along with a Eurocopter as they flew over my house from Northolt. They were en route to Stanstead. A friend of mine who is at Stanstead said they (the spotters), all had a good view of them as they came down and landed on the runway.
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: tarbat on March 31, 2009, 06:10:35 PM
Any chance of a radio call and on what channel?

Some more details on frequencies, etc.  at http://fightercontrol.forumotion.com/latest-rumours-f18/g20-summit-london-2nd-april-t5249-210.htm

Try 133.6
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: artnco on March 31, 2009, 06:14:40 PM
Just passing over west Cheshire at 29000ft at 1910 BST
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: artnco on March 31, 2009, 06:19:22 PM
Followed  at 31000ft by BREWR84
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: Canonjohns40D on March 31, 2009, 06:40:38 PM
Hi on my box at 18.56 AE02FA  USAF C130 Brewer 21 86-0419. Other site reports this as well as Brewer 84 (E4) and Airforce one AF1 and 84 possibly together. Local NI SBS man reports AF1 82-8000 VC-25A and Brewer 84 73-0787 E-4B both showing on SBS1 here in N Ireland since 1856.

I was att he radarbox and radio throughout and got nothing?

John
 
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: Tailwinds on March 31, 2009, 06:40:47 PM
I've got Air Force 1 on the ANRB in "MyFlights!!! Yes Yes Yes......
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: ACW367 on March 31, 2009, 06:43:26 PM
Now down to 10000 in vicinity BOMBO. also got F900 TR-AFJ republic of Gabon going into Luton.
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: ACW367 on March 31, 2009, 06:45:33 PM
Network has SAAF ZS-RSA callsign LMG1 going into Gatwick with ADS-B.
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: Andy Frost on March 31, 2009, 06:47:24 PM
BREWR84 (Reg:74-0787) passed over Manchester at 31000ft. I lost contact around 7:40pm. Unfortunately I didn't manage to find out which frequency they were on.
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: Tailwinds on March 31, 2009, 06:48:09 PM
Live Feed AF1 Landing

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/7927039.stm
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: aps on March 31, 2009, 06:53:23 PM
BREWR84 (Reg:74-0787) passed over Manchester at 31000ft. I lost contact around 7:40pm. Unfortunately I didn't manage to find out which frequency they were on.


Yeah tracked them here too !

shame it was cloudy !
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: jonjorobb on March 31, 2009, 07:14:25 PM
Tracked both here (near Pole Hill) aswell.

Jonjo.
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: SteveLal on March 31, 2009, 07:20:11 PM
I've got Canada's response cruising at 27000 at the moment. CFC01 A310. Wonder if the BBC will cover that one landing?
Also, regarding the coverage on the Beeb et al, I bet MOL couldn't believe his luck. Great shot of AF1 with a great big Ryanair logo on the hangar behind.
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: charlie on March 31, 2009, 07:24:08 PM
logged Air Force One  1850

Also

ADFEB7  S91  98-001    B752     1915
ADFEB9  S4526  99-0003 B752   1920

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Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: ACW367 on March 31, 2009, 07:35:09 PM
7101F0 HZ-MF5 GLF4 not ADS-B but down at 5000ft and appears to be on finals to Luton right now.
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: Roland28 on March 31, 2009, 07:40:39 PM
I got what I think was a support 747 here in Yorkshire.

ADFEB5  HUGE25                   74-0787 BE-   USA - Air Force      2009/03/31 18:36:26  

On Sunday 29/3 my RadarBox was on all day and I detected 11 US Military aircraft. I saw a C17 flying overhead, probably on it's way to Germany but the activity was much more than usual.
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: mdobuk21 on March 31, 2009, 07:58:47 PM
very strange callsign there i got the E4 as BREWR84 actual callsign on ATC

Mark
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: ACW367 on March 31, 2009, 08:02:16 PM
Two more that are currently on the network with ADS-B and coming our way.

Over Sweden - JAF001 87C001 20-1102 B744 Japan Air Force
Over Germany - A6DFR 896132 A6-DFR B737 Abu Dhabi Amiri Flight
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: ACW367 on March 31, 2009, 08:26:29 PM
ADS-B networked

Over Med just south of Crete - E400D9 BRS01 2101 A319 Brazil Air Force

Lots of Air Force 1's today.
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: Roland28 on March 31, 2009, 08:32:51 PM
very strange callsign there i got the E4 as BREWR84 actual callsign on ATC

Mark

When I first detected the plane it displayed the callsign BREWR84, but HUGE25 was displayed in the Reporter.

Looking back in my log, HUGE25 was the callsign used for this plane on 6 Apr 2008, yes a year ago. So why was this callsign displayed in the Reporter for today?
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: ACW367 on March 31, 2009, 08:33:23 PM
They keep coming, following its colleague on the polar route through Sweden

87C000 JAF002 20-1101 B744 Japan Air Force
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: ACW367 on March 31, 2009, 08:35:44 PM
Roland

That is a known issue with reporter.  It always takes the oldest available callsign into your reporter log. It does this for all planes.  Airnav are fixing in thier next version.
 
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: mdobuk21 on March 31, 2009, 08:36:18 PM
very strange that one! it was spelt BREWR84 in the callsing box!
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: ACW367 on March 31, 2009, 08:44:40 PM
Over Germany - 15521F SDM9011 RA-86559 IL62 Russian State Transport Company.  

SDM9000 series flights are presidential and entourage flights
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: E14 on March 31, 2009, 08:52:37 PM
Two more that are currently on the network with ADS-B and coming our way.

Over Sweden - JAF001 87C001 20-1102 B744 Japan Air Force
Over Germany - A6DFR 896132 A6-DFR B737 Abu Dhabi Amiri Flight

Good spots

Well the Japanese one certainly got the wife interested a bit more

Abu Dhabi Flight came right over the house
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: ACW367 on March 31, 2009, 09:10:42 PM
1551C2 RA-86466 IL62 Russian State Transport Company.  Some forums have this as Presidential entourage callsign SDM9031, but its showing on the network at CTA100A
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: viking9 on March 31, 2009, 09:16:05 PM
1551C2 RA-86466 IL62 Russian State Transport Company.  Some forums have this as Presidential entourage callsign SDM9031, but its showing on the network at CTA100A

You can't trust callsigns shown on RB or SBS. It's the radio callsign heard that is the correct one.

Having said that I notice the other IL-62 c/s is shown in RB as SDM9011.
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: Tailwinds on March 31, 2009, 09:17:51 PM
It seems AF1 is about to depart Stanstead. Where is it going I wonder?
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: jgrloit on March 31, 2009, 09:19:40 PM
From the Network :-
JAF001 and JAF002 seem to be showing a route of RJTT-KADW
These are NOT in my database of routes - where is it getting these from as it looks as though they should be RJTT-EGLL..  Currently heading for the Thames??
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: E14 on March 31, 2009, 09:28:48 PM
Looks like JAF001 heading into Gatwick
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: ACW367 on March 31, 2009, 09:30:05 PM
Both Japans are Gatwick bound,  The Russians to Stansted, the Abu Dhabi ended in Heathrow.
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: RodBearden on March 31, 2009, 09:31:52 PM
Regarding the JAF routes, it doesn't help that JAF is the ICAO code for JetAirFly - so heaven knows where the routes have come from!

Rod
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: Roland28 on March 31, 2009, 09:34:49 PM
It seems AF1 is about to depart Stanstead. Where is it going I wonder?

My guess would be a USAF base like Mildenhall, both cheaper and safer. It's not a surprise that AF1 is not staying at Stansted.
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: Tailwinds on March 31, 2009, 10:04:11 PM
JAF002 arrived at Gatwick.
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: E14 on March 31, 2009, 10:09:05 PM
Did not think the Japanese would have another one but I think it’s for the Journalists and entourage that follow. Press Gallery next to where I live is looking nearly ready for Action tomorrow and Thursday
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: Canonjohns40D on March 31, 2009, 10:16:20 PM
Possible connection to AF1  ADFEB9 99-0033 Boeing C32A 757-2G4 USAF on my box at 22.56 UTC.

John
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: Tailwinds on April 01, 2009, 09:22:24 AM
AF1 is scheduled to depart Stanstead on Friday morning. However, things can and do change but that is the word at the moment.
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: Tailwinds on April 03, 2009, 06:02:59 AM
JAF001 and JAF002 both departed Gatwick late last night. I caught both of these on the map of ANRB. AF1 departs Stanstead this morning quite early so I've read on the forum circuit.
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: charlie on April 03, 2009, 07:33:11 AM
Have just tracked

Flight ID S4582  ModeS ADFEB8  98-0002   (B752)
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: colinhall on April 03, 2009, 07:39:25 AM
Obama just boarding so will be leaving Stanstead soon, its live on BBC1.Anyone tracking?

Colin.
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: charlie on April 03, 2009, 07:47:32 AM
yes

I live 40 miles north of stansted
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: charlie on April 03, 2009, 07:51:06 AM
Air Force tracked at 0850 leaving Stansted
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: Keith L on April 03, 2009, 07:51:17 AM
Showing in MyFlights climbing through 4145' at 8:50am
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: charlie on April 03, 2009, 07:53:42 AM
0852 at 6925ft climbing
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: dudbaker on April 03, 2009, 07:56:00 AM
DCT DET 118.825 then DRC KOKSEY 120.525
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: tarbat on April 03, 2009, 07:59:42 AM
It's on Planeplotter as a non-positional at 23000ft.
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: charlie on April 03, 2009, 08:00:45 AM
Also B752   98-0001 ADFEB7  leaving aswell
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: Tailwinds on April 03, 2009, 08:23:47 AM
Crikey!....anybody see how foggy it was at Stanstead? BBC Breakfast were showing it live but then had to cut transmission because AF1 just disappeared into the fog as it Taxied.

Tracked AF1 on ANRB and also managed to catch some comms on the scanner. Had to open the squelch a fair bit though. I heard AF1 requested an altitude of either FL250 or FL270. Once they were handed over to the next sector, I couldn't get any more comms.
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: sjc_01 on April 06, 2009, 09:30:44 AM
hi there,
just wondered if you could help me put my dad's mind at rest, he was bought an airnav thingy for his birthday and loves it, he tracked airforce one last week and the screen went down, he is now worried he has done something wrong and will be getting a visit from the 'men in black'. He hasn't dared used it since!.
hopefully you experts will be able to help me reassure him he's going to be fine!
he was only watching the flight on the screen,not passing info on.
thanks in advance :-)
 
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: Allocator on April 06, 2009, 09:39:01 AM
He will be fine :-)

RadarBox is completely passive when receiving live aircraft and the Network is delayed 5 minutes for security reasons, so you father will be fine.

When you say that the screen went down, what exactly happened?
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: sjc_01 on April 06, 2009, 09:47:33 AM
well from what he told me, personally I think  that he just lost internet connection, but dad being dad put 2 and 2 together and came up with 5!
 he is now convinced he will be getting a visit from the police? and will not use his air nav again!
I just want to reassure him that no one is going to come round and he can carry on enjoying his new hobby with out fear of being arrested lol.
Sorry if this seems abit silly,but he is very new to all this and was enjoying his air nav so much

thanks for your help :-)
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: Allocator on April 06, 2009, 10:13:57 AM
As we've said before here, no question is too silly!

I've had an SBS-1 for over 2 and a half years and a RadarBox for over one and a half years and there are many many other users all around the world too.  Use of RadarBox is legal and so is sharing the data via the AirNav Network to produce 5 minute delayed that every other RadarBox user can view.  As far as I'm aware, no RadarBox user has received a knock on the door from the "men in black", nor are they likely to.

Must go, there is somebody at the door ............... only joking -lol

And welcome to the forum by the way!

Regards

Allocator


Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: Tailwinds on April 06, 2009, 10:23:56 AM
Perhaps your dad may also think about joining the forum here where he can ask as many questions as he likes along with getting great help and advice should he need it.
Title: Re: Air Force 1
Post by: sjc_01 on April 06, 2009, 12:37:02 PM
thank you so much for your quick and very helpful responses!
regards