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Title: Hex code updates
Post by: GreekSpy2001 on January 23, 2009, 11:10:55 AM
Sorry if I got this wrong.  But am I right in believing if I just get a hex code with no details it I double click on the hex the software goes back to servers at AN to update? 

I have hex code 424074. which has no type associated with it.  The Gatwick AS site does have this as F2000 VP-BBP.

So either I've got this wrong or its not working for me.

Can anyone advise?

Thanks

Graham
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: Allocator on January 23, 2009, 11:14:58 AM
You only need to left click on the aircraft line in the list.

Are there any details showing for this aircraft, or is it just the type that is missing?

Have you got "Download Photos" selected in preferences?
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: besty on January 23, 2009, 01:56:02 PM
Hello Allocator I'm not able to get details by left clicking on the list, I'm getting flight info but it's not downloading any details. Download aircraft photo is checked, in  navdata it is leaving the photo sections pink so its not populating these till I open them and save them cleared.

any ideas?

Stuart
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: tarbat on January 23, 2009, 01:57:41 PM
Maybe autopopulate is one of the services not yet restored on the Airnav servers?  I'm also getting some populate failures.
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: besty on January 23, 2009, 01:59:13 PM
Thats good to know, thought I'd killed my Navdata by messing with it somehow. Found your dat8 file on here and got it when server was up and running.
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: JStobbie on January 23, 2009, 05:21:15 PM
I'm getting the same since the servers went up ... maybe it is still to be sorted out?
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: Jollygreen on January 23, 2009, 08:59:46 PM
Hi
I have just got my AirNav, actually got it at 6.30 pm GMT today and followed the help file instruction when I was only getting the Hex code and no registration / aircraft type and it did not work. Judging by this subject train it is not anything I am doing wrong but a server issue.

Have I read this correct?

MTIA Nigel
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: besty on January 23, 2009, 10:03:19 PM
Hello and welcome to the forum, yes it looks like it is the new server and it should only be a few days before it's all up and running fully. I'm sure you'll enjoy your radarbox.

Stuart
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: GreekSpy2001 on January 24, 2009, 04:18:55 PM
Thanks Allocator et al

Confirm that download photos is set.  Can confirm that the left click is not working for me but understand that it could be once the new server is fully functional.  Will wait for the thumbs up from the Airnav Chaps

Graham
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: Jollygreen on January 25, 2009, 02:57:05 PM
How do I update the Hex code as there is no autopopulate function at present so that the next time it is picked up I see the aircraft details. As you might expect as a newbie I am getting a lot of codes with no details.

Nigel
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: tarbat on January 25, 2009, 03:48:27 PM
You can manually update them using Database Explorer.  Details on the FAQ at http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=628.0

You can do manual ModeS lookups at http://www.gatwickaviationsociety.org.uk/modeslookup.asp
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: Jollygreen on January 28, 2009, 09:50:29 AM
Tarbat, thanks for the info. Now, as a newbie to this I have another question re the population of data for Hex Codes.

Yesterday, when I ran the reporter I found that two new Hex Codes, for me that is had no details, 4603C7 & 76CD61 and several others had no aircraft type or Airline e.g. 3C666C & 48455C.

Why is this?

Nigel
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: abrad41 on January 28, 2009, 10:23:44 AM
This I think is a problem since Airnav have replaced the Server.

I checked mine last night and had about 170 lines, which were not populated and would not populate. These were all just showing ModeS and Reg.

This will now leave me and other's to do a lot of manual updating.
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: jgrloit on January 29, 2009, 12:42:26 PM
Could AirNav Support please confirm when they believe that the servers are operation the Info Update functions fully.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: AirNav Support on January 29, 2009, 03:15:41 PM
They are not, we are still awaiting the GAS link up to be updated.
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: Jollygreen on January 29, 2009, 04:01:09 PM
Is there anyway that we will be able to update those Hex codes that have missing data, apart from doing it manually that is
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: tarbat on January 29, 2009, 05:03:26 PM
Is there anyway that we will be able to update those Hex codes that have missing data, apart from doing it manually that is
Yes, if you have SQL skills and a decent SQLite database tool - http://www.airnavsystems.com/forum/index.php?topic=1489.msg11716#msg11716    I'm doing this daily at the moment,

Or wait for Airnav to fix the problem, and then use the Populate function in Radarbox to catch-up.
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: Fenris on January 29, 2009, 09:33:05 PM
They are not, we are still awaiting the GAS link up to be updated.

I assume the interface between GAS and the new server is unchanged, do you understand why it has broken? Asking purely for information rather than as a hurry up!
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: AirNav Support on January 29, 2009, 09:46:10 PM
Interface is the same, as the server is changed, GAS need to authorise its connection. Hence why we are trying to contact them and get it rectified asp.
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: Fenris on January 29, 2009, 09:46:55 PM
Interface is the same, as the server is changed, GAS need to authorise its connection. Hence why we are trying to contact them and get it rectified asp.

Oh I see, that sort of problem!

Thanks for the answer.
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: tarbat on January 29, 2009, 10:07:47 PM
Airnav, did you try contacting GAS via. cessna24v on the Kinetic forum?  Gary has been active on that forum today.
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: AirNav Support on January 29, 2009, 10:08:30 PM
We did sent him a message via the forum earlier on.
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: abrad41 on January 31, 2009, 12:13:44 PM
Airnav,

Do we have any news on this, as the populate fuction is still not working right.

Cheers
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: Allocator on January 31, 2009, 02:38:08 PM
Airnav,

Do we have any news on this, as the populate fuction is still not working right.

Cheers

It's working fine for me - what isn't working for you?
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: abrad41 on January 31, 2009, 02:54:22 PM
The last time I tried Populating all it was putting in the Navdata was Reg & ...

Have not tried it laterly because of this, I will try again later.

As you can see above Allocator, There was a problem with gas and Airnav Support have not confirmed it has been sorted.
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: tarbat on January 31, 2009, 02:57:29 PM
It's populating, but some of the aircraft seem to have poor quality data.  Not sure if this is a GAS or Airnav problem.  Here's the last 100 aircraft populated in my Radarbox.
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: Allocator on January 31, 2009, 03:00:07 PM
Yes, good point tarbat, doesn't look like it's quite there yet.
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: tarbat on January 31, 2009, 03:02:58 PM
And here's what the same 102 aircraft look like after running their ModeS codes through GAS populate.  Not perfect, but a lot cleaner than the Airnav data.

Think I'll stick with getting my aircraft direct from GAS for the moment.
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: Tramline on February 01, 2009, 10:39:40 AM
Hi, is there a publication online which lists Airline Fleets and Military Hex Codes as a 'list' rather than individual hex codes as per Airframes.org.

For example if I wanted Hex codes say for AF B777's where can these be found as a list.

I know this is probably an amateur question but only through this forum did I find out RAF were 43C* and USAF AE0* etc. 

Once again, thanks to all those who impart their knowledge on this excellent forum.


Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: Allocator on February 01, 2009, 10:53:57 AM
Airline Fleets yes - airframes.org

Use the Airlines option from the menu on the left, put the code in the search box e.g. AFR, then click on AFR in the table.

You have to click on each aircraft to get the hex code, but often then run as a block sequence.

For military aircraft, not sure.
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: Allocator on February 01, 2009, 10:58:44 AM
In fact, airframes.org can list some military "fleets" too.
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: Tramline on February 01, 2009, 11:04:53 AM
Thanks Allocator, I've done that and I get a display as below

F-GSPA Boeing 777-228ER B772 29002 129 AFR 1998 1998-03-27  active

I get the hex code by clicking on each indiviual A/c but I was wondering if the hex codes were listed in just like a reg, i.e in another visible column?

Perhaps I'm just being pedantic, I'm looking to be able to 'cut and paste' into
my RB Alerts.

Anyone know where the hexcode military listings maybe found?
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: Allocator on February 01, 2009, 11:16:18 AM
Not quite as simple as it would seem!

You could try reading through this thread on the other forum.  You can see how much detective work is needed to find the military code blocks :-)

http://www.kinetic-avionics.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4023&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: tarbat on February 01, 2009, 11:18:52 AM
A useful resource for military aircraft is http://www.live-military-mode-s.eu/

You'll need to get a fee logon to use, and preferably share your RB logs with the site.
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: GreekSpy2001 on February 10, 2009, 12:09:48 PM
This Hex only just been picked up A54EDF.  Both Airframes and GAS identfy this as a Be300 N441FP.  I have clicked on the hex in my flights but it has not updated.  So is this service back up and running?

Thanks

Graham
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: jgrloit on February 10, 2009, 12:32:45 PM
Try turning off then back on the process Hardware flights, while you have an InterNet connection.
It seems that the Airnav RB database takes the info request from a remote system as the prompt to check with GAS, for an ID that it is unaware of.
It does NOT record which system initiated the request, but will feed the data back on your next NEW seem info request.
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: tarbat on February 10, 2009, 12:35:29 PM
A54EDF populated in MyLog okay last night at around 11pm.  It's got the "..." in short type, so it was definately populated from the Airnav server.

Did you have network aircraft turned on at the time?  If so, this could be the known problem with aircraft transitioning from network to local not getting their registration details.
Title: Re: Hex code updates
Post by: GreekSpy2001 on February 10, 2009, 03:27:01 PM
Nope rarely have the Network feature turned on. Seems there it is something else in my setup not quite right

Graham