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Title: ADS-B Discussed on Discovery Documentary (UPS Delivery)
Post by: bailey_uk on August 02, 2008, 08:48:32 AM
The other day I watched a very interesting documentary on Dicovery Channel about UPS and its Worldport HUB.

Its enormous, bigger than the adjacent Louisville International Airport's passenger terminal, and an upcoming $1 billion expansion will make it even bigger.

The amount of airtraffic in and out of this aiport each day is crazy, and so there was a 5 minute discussion about how they use state of the art ADS-B technology to keep a track of their aircraft and to minimise the chance of collision.
(http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/ups-12.jpg)

Worth watching, I think its part of the Dicovery Channels 'Mega Factories' series.

James

Title: Re: ADS-B Discussed on Discovery Documentary (UPS Delivery)
Post by: Steve R on August 03, 2008, 01:33:11 AM
Damn, I wanted to watch that & forgot it was on! Oh well will just have to wait for the repeat.

Sky + is only as good as the person programming it I Say.

SteveR
Title: Re: ADS-B Discussed on Discovery Documentary (UPS Delivery)
Post by: tarbat on August 03, 2008, 08:55:28 AM
Is this the programme?


DOCUMENTARY: How Do They Do It?
On: Discovery (520)   
Date: Saturday 16th August 2008 (starting in 12 days)
Time: 08:30 to 09:00 (30 minutes long)

UPS/Coal.
Discover how millions of packages are delivered between continents in less than 24 hours and how enough coal is mined to feed the world's hunger for electric power.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Excerpt taken from DigiGuide - the world's best TV guide available from http://www.getdigiguide.com/?p=1&r=23951
Title: Re: ADS-B Discussed on Discovery Documentary (UPS Delivery)
Post by: bailey_uk on August 03, 2008, 09:03:45 AM
Hmm, id say its a 15 minute version of what I saw which was on for a full hour, and was purely about the UPS system, nothing else like coal mining etc.

Random thought here, but there is a USB port in the back of a Sky+ box - does that enable you to transfer what recordings you have in your planner, to a PC?
Title: Re: ADS-B Discussed on Discovery Documentary (UPS Delivery)
Post by: DaveReid on August 03, 2008, 09:38:11 AM
they use state of the art ADS-B technology to keep a track of their aircraft and to minimise the chance of collision.
Aren't you confusing ADS-B with TCAS ?  Aircraft without ADS-B are at no more risk of colliding than aircraft with.

Dave
Title: Re: ADS-B Discussed on Discovery Documentary (UPS Delivery)
Post by: Cumulus on August 03, 2008, 09:46:05 AM
National Geographic Channel

Megafactories - UPS Worldport -

http://natgeochannel.co.uk/programmes/megafactories/videos/ups-worldport (http://natgeochannel.co.uk/programmes/megafactories/videos/ups-worldport)

Next transmission:-

Monday 18/8 9.00pm Sky Ch527 NATG1

Hope that helps.

Peter
Title: Re: ADS-B Discussed on Discovery Documentary (UPS Delivery)
Post by: Steve R on August 03, 2008, 09:46:24 AM
Quote
Random thought here, but there is a USB port in the back of a Sky+ box - does that enable you to transfer what recordings you have in your planner, to a PC?

Hi Bailey, in response to what you asked above, there is a usb port on the back on my Sky + box, however when you plug anything into it nothing happens. According to Sky  this is for future developments with the Sky + feature.

Shame though as this would be handy.

SteveR
Title: Re: ADS-B Discussed on Discovery Documentary (UPS Delivery)
Post by: tarbat on August 03, 2008, 09:55:19 AM
bailey_uk, I can't find this on Discovery.  Could it have been on National Geographic?


DOCUMENTARY: Megafactories
On: National Geographic HD (543)   
Date: Saturday 23rd August 2008 (starting in 19 days)
Time: 00:00 to 01:00 (1 hour long)

Ups.
A high-tech flight-simulation training hub complete with a meteorology centre, combined with the eighth largest airline fleet in the world. What for? Mail delivery of course!
(New, Widescreen, High Definition, Dolby Digital 5.1, 2006)
Excerpt taken from DigiGuide - the world's best TV guide available from http://www.getdigiguide.com/?p=1&r=23951


And no, the USB port on a Sky+ (or Sky+HD) box isn't active.
Title: Re: ADS-B Discussed on Discovery Documentary (UPS Delivery)
Post by: Cumulus on August 03, 2008, 11:08:49 AM
they use state of the art ADS-B technology to keep a track of their aircraft and to minimise the chance of collision.
Aren't you confusing ADS-B with TCAS ?  Aircraft without ADS-B are at no more risk of colliding than aircraft with.

Dave

No confusion UPS are using ADS-B for flow control into Louisville Ky.

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_generic.jsp?channel=comm&id=news/aw110606p1.xml&headline=UPS%20Pioneers%20ADS-B (http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_generic.jsp?channel=comm&id=news/aw110606p1.xml&headline=UPS%20Pioneers%20ADS-B)

Cheers,

Peter
Title: Re: ADS-B Discussed on Discovery Documentary (UPS Delivery)
Post by: bailey_uk on August 03, 2008, 05:24:32 PM
Terbat - Yes thats the one! National Geographic it was - I get all those chanels mixed up!
Title: Re: ADS-B Discussed on Discovery Documentary (UPS Delivery)
Post by: bailey_uk on August 03, 2008, 05:28:33 PM
Steve - Ah yeh thats a shame, as I have it on my Sky+ box now saved, and could of uploaded it somehow!
Title: Re: ADS-B Discussed on Discovery Documentary (UPS Delivery)
Post by: Allocator on August 03, 2008, 08:13:15 PM
If you have a DVD recorder connected to your Sky+ box, you can Copy the program to DVD.  Then you would need to put the DVD into you PC and "rip" it to get a movie file. Then you would have to compress this to make it a reasonable size to upload it.

It can be done, but it depends how long you've got :-)
Title: Re: ADS-B Discussed on Discovery Documentary (UPS Delivery)
Post by: bailey_uk on August 03, 2008, 09:01:46 PM
Hehe I think you folks are going to have to wait until 18th August then!

Worth watching, its awe inspiring to see a business run so smoothly under such high volumes.
Title: Re: ADS-B Discussed on Discovery Documentary (UPS Delivery)
Post by: Allocator on August 04, 2008, 10:19:19 AM
Another good program to watch will be "Britain from Above" starting on Sunday 10 August at 2100 on BBC One.  There is currently a link to the trailer on the BBC News Website front page - it's actually in the Technology section if the link has gone.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7539529.stm

This program uses RadarBox Network XML data to show the flow of air traffic.  Hopefully, it won't be one of those "blink and you miss it" type bits!

Below, link to the main site:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/britainfromabove/


Title: Re: ADS-B Discussed on Discovery Documentary (UPS Delivery)
Post by: DaveReid on August 06, 2008, 04:46:09 PM
they use state of the art ADS-B technology to keep a track of their aircraft and to minimise the chance of collision.
Aren't you confusing ADS-B with TCAS ?  Aircraft without ADS-B are at no more risk of colliding than aircraft with.

Dave

No confusion UPS are using ADS-B for flow control into Louisville Ky.

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_generic.jsp?channel=comm&id=news/aw110606p1.xml&headline=UPS%20Pioneers%20ADS-B (http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_generic.jsp?channel=comm&id=news/aw110606p1.xml&headline=UPS%20Pioneers%20ADS-B)

No argument there - it was just the original statement about ADS-B being used "to minimise the chance of a collision" that sounded rather odd.

Dave
Title: Re: ADS-B Discussed on Discovery Documentary (UPS Delivery)
Post by: tarbat on August 10, 2008, 09:23:10 PM
This program uses RadarBox Network XML data to show the flow of air traffic.  Hopefully, it won't be one of those "blink and you miss it" type bits!

Below, link to the main site:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/britainfromabove/


And if you go to the credits page, Airnav even get a mention!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/britainfromabove/about/credits.shtml

Congratulations to Airnav for providing the XML data to the BBC.  And all of us I guess, it was our data!!!  Seeing the programme made me realise why my aircraft list is empty at the moment - all that crowded sky down south.
Title: Re: ADS-B Discussed on Discovery Documentary (UPS Delivery)
Post by: AirNav Development on August 11, 2008, 01:33:52 AM
That is great news to see our name there.
Actually this is not the first time AirNav Systems has provided flight data to TV documentaries: we had previously done it for the Discovery Channel, National Geographic, etc for the famous Mayday aviation series.
Title: Re: ADS-B Discussed on Discovery Documentary (UPS Delivery)
Post by: Allocator on August 12, 2008, 06:32:04 PM
The first episode of Britain From Above is now available on the BBC iPlayer.  For those of you who just want to see the aircraft tracks produced from RadarBox Network data, see the following link:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/britainfromabove/stories/visualisations/planes.shtml

This may only be available to UK viewers - something about all you overseas chaps not paying for a UK TV licence :-)
Title: Re: ADS-B Discussed on Discovery Documentary (UPS Delivery)
Post by: bailey_uk on August 12, 2008, 10:41:35 PM
When is the Britain from Above aired? Im likely to be away for a few of them so think i'll wait untill its released on DVD.
Title: Re: ADS-B Discussed on Discovery Documentary (UPS Delivery)
Post by: Allocator on August 13, 2008, 07:38:13 AM
It's on at 2100 UK time on a Sunday evening BBC One followed by a "companion"program on BBC Two at 2200.  Each of these is 3 episodes, although I don't know if we're going to see the aircraft data again.  Even so, it's a very interesting and informative series.

It's also avaialable to watch on the BBC iPlayer website if you are in the UK - you don't need to install the iPlayer on your PC any more, you can just watch it on the site.  They tend to keep the programs on the site until the following episode is shown, then that one replaces it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/
Title: Re: ADS-B Discussed on Discovery Documentary (UPS Delivery)
Post by: Allocator on August 16, 2008, 08:12:50 PM
The AirNav Network data section of Britain From Above is now available on YouTube :-)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sEZcBeE33wc